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Norwalk Police Thread


by turfgrrl


September 24th, 2008 · 68 Comments

The headlines in the local papers call attention to the fact that Seargent Couture was fired following a 3 person panel hearing about the events that followed investigation into former Lt. Cummings sexual interactions with alleged 15 year olds met through a web site. Couture testified in the hearing, according to the Hour, that he confronted Cummings angrily in the parking lot after learning of the investigation. Which is sort of what you would expect to happen if a) you discovered this info informally and b) you were a friend of the subject of the info and c) the conversation went along the lines of WTF are you doing.

Needless to say none of these details emerge from the newspaper coverage, which is unfortunate becuase they are kind of important. Like why was it necessary for Westport Detective Jill Ruggiero to call Seargent CoutureĀ  instead of perhaps a fellow Detective since this was supposed to be an investigation? Maybe I’ve read way too many police procedural novels but the timeline, events, and procedures followed in this whole case don’t make much sense. Didn’t anyone ask the obvious question why Ruggiero didn’t kick the investigation to a higher, outside the Norwalk department are considering that Cummings was the head Detective?

Which is perhaps why Couture’s lawyers are taking this to a state mediation board.

The 24-year career of a Norwalk police officer ended Tuesday after he was fired for his role in alerting a fellow police officer that he was the suspect in a sexual assault allegation involving a 15-year-old Weston resident.

Sgt. Stephen Couture left the third-floor conference room at police headquarters before the decision was announced by the three-member police trial board at 4:05 p.m.

Couture’s lawyer, Richard Gudis, slammed the decision to fire Couture, and said they will appeal it to the state Board of Mediation and Arbitration.

“The difference between the Norwalk police trial board and the state board is that the state board is a neutral, fair and impartial panel,” said Gudis.

Saranne P. Murray, the lawyer representing the administration, was not at the hearing. She could not be reached by telephone for comment.

Police Chief Harry W. Rilling said it was a difficult day to see one of the department’s officers fired.

“It’s a very sad day for us,” said Rilling. “It’s a very difficult situation when you have to terminate a police officer.”

Rilling had brought four charges against Couture that he violated the department’s rules and regulations.

Couture had to turn in his badge and his handgun after the ruling, said Rilling, who added the department tried to handle the situation with sensitivity.

The trial board consisted of police commissioners Daniel O’Connor and Peter Torrano, as well as city personnel director James Haselkamp. The latter was asked to chair the trial board by Mayor Richard A. Moccia, who is the third member of the police commission.

In releasing the decision, Haselkamp said the board would not make any comment on its decision.

The board was critical of Couture’s actions in alerting former Lt. Thomas Cummings, then commander of the Detective Bureau, about the investigation by Westport police.

They wrote that within 20 minutes of learning details about the allegation from Westport Detective Jill Ruggiero on the afternoon of Friday, Oct. 26, 2007, Couture told Cummings about it.

That decision “thwarted any possibility of an Internet sting,” which Ruggiero had been considering, said the board, as it ruled Couture violated Section 4.16 of conduct unbecoming a police officer.

Cummings was charged in January with three counts of enticing a minor, two counts of second-degree sexual assault and three counts of risk of injury to a minor. He resigned from the police department on Feb. 15.

He is alleged to have had sex with two 15-year-old boys and attempting to have sex with another male juvenile.

After his conversation with Ruggiero, Couture called Cummings and told him they had to meet. They met in a parking lot where Couture testified he angrily confronted Cummings about the investigation

During that tense meeting, Couture received a telephone call about the case from Assistant State’s Attorney Richard Colangelo. The two had briefly spoken about the issue earlier. Colangelo told Couture not to tell anyone about the allegation.

Couture didn’t tell Colangelo that he had just told Cummings and was meeting with him at that moment.

The board also said Couture called Ruggiero at 5:34 p.m. that same day “and attempted to dissuade Detective Ruggiero from obtaining a formal complaint from the victim’s mother.”

The board ruled that
in telling Cummings about the allegation he violated Section 4.21, which governs the confidentiality of department business.

While it found he violated two of the charges, the board ruled he did not violate Section 4.23 in withholding information from his superiors.

The board ruled Couture “technically” violated Section 4.1 (Directive 2.8.12) but didn’t impose any discipline for that violation.

Section 4.1 states that “officers shall not commit any acts which constitute a violation of the rules, regulations, directives or other orders of the Department whether or not stated in this General Order.”

The board also said Colangelo’s directive to Couture not to tell anyone was a mitigating factor in its decision to find that he did not violate Directive 2.8.12. That directive said the chief shall be notified of all complaints against the department or its employees.

Gudis said the charges were an overreaction due to the sensational nature of the investigation.

“Stephen Couture made a mistake and made a minor lapse in judgment, but for the salaciousnous of the alleged conduct by others, this would be, at worst, a written warning,” said Gudis.

“Clearly this was more of a decision of political expediency than justice,” he said. “Cummings was allowed to resign and (Lt. Michael) King was allowed to retire,” said Gudis.

During the police probe, Cummings was investigated for downloading pornographic material on his department computer and the police computer assigned to him.

Neither Couture nor King were ever charged criminally for their actions.

Despite the firing, Gudis said he didn’t believe Couture’s career was over.

“I don’t think so. I think when these same set of facts is put before competent and impartial tryers of law, Stephen Couture will be vindicated.”

source: The Hour, Police trial hearing ends in firing of sergeant, By FRANK MacEACHERN

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  • 1 Anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Steve Couture, I fervently hope that your dismissal is reversed. I have known you professionally for a number of years (I am not a police officer, nor do I work for the Norwalk Police Department), and I have found you to be highly competent. Moreover, I believe that you have operated by a high moral standard, which may be why you suffered a lapse of judgment.

    Even if you were wrong, the penalty is far too severe.

  • 2 anon // Sep 24, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    As I delve into this further, I find the punishment for Sgt. Couture to be extremely out of line and inconsistent with other disciplinary action handed out by the Norwalk Police Department. In total. Three officers were involved in this incident. The Lt that was arrested and charged with several counts of sexual abuse to minors was allowed to retire with full pension and benefits. A second Lt who was found to have thousands of pornographic images on his work computer was allowed to retire with full pension and benefits. Both LTs had previous disciplinary issues. Sgt. Couture, who had no previous disciplinary action and broke no laws was terminated. Going back even further, a police officer was fired for stealing part of human remains after a fatal accident and was going to turn this skull fragment into a cigar ashtray. This would seem to be a much more severe violation of rules and ethics than the actions of Sgt. Couture. This officer also had an extensive disciplinary record. Yet the State Labor Board determined that the firing of the officer in question was excessive and ordered the police department to rehire the officer. Knowing that, firing an officer for stealing human remains is excessive, they still chose to terminate Sgt. Couture knowing full well that the State Labor Board is likely to rule in Sgt. Couture’s favor. When Sgt. Couture is reinstated by the Labor Board, who is going to end up paying for all the legal fees and back pay for Sgt. Couture? The taxpayers. Please talk to Norwalk Police officers that you know. The ones I know have told me tales of discipline given out by Chief Rilling and the Police Commission over many years, and the punishment given out in this instance is far greater that that given out for much more flagrant offenses. There are stories of sexual assaults on police property that resulted in less punishment than this. Let’s see if we can get a list of police officer offenses and the corresponding punishments and see if this discipline is out of line. The Hour should be able to research their own records for comparison.

  • 3 Anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    anon, thanks for your posting. I’m with you in hoping that the State Labor Board will reverse this termination and reinstate Steve Couture to his former status.

  • 4 anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Cops are talking. It seems that Police Commissioner Torrano had issues when he was with the Police Department. Apparently there were sexual harassment complaints filed against him. Did the Mayor know this when he was appointed to the Commission?

  • 5 anon // Sep 24, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    If a second termination is overruled by the State Labor Board, then it is clear that the Commissioners should be forced to resign and reimburse the city for back pay and attorney fees the city spent. Apparently they already made one termination mistake and this would be there second. That seems to be one more error in judgement than Sgt. Couture made in his career.

  • 6 MrBozak // Sep 24, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    I guess when you are caught aiding a rapist(Cummings)and a killer (King), then you should get fired. Regardless of peoples general perception of your moral standards. The action speaks for itself. He knew why they were investigating Cummings, did he himself have something to hide. Always seemed to me that King and Cummings were gay lovers. And who helped King get the porn off the computer? Didnt the courthouse have possesion of it? And in the end King seems to just walk away from this dirty little web, like Mr. Clean. I wonder why?

  • 7 Anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    why did the mayor sit out and not involve himself?

  • 8 anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Bozak-you know not what you speak. Couture was far from helping a rapist. He was angry at him and advising him that he was going to write him up even though the victim was unwilling, and so far has still refused to cooperate with the investigation. No charges have ever been filed related to that case because the victim still does not want to press charges. And who did King kill other than a justified shooting of an armed criminal who posed a danger to the community. I think he got a medal for that one. Good guys won that one. And King did not get the porn off his computer, wrong again. That’s why he was forced to retire. Bozak, you have no credibility because your facts are always wrong.

  • 9 Anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    MrBozak came out from under his rock again. We haven’t heard from him since his campaign to convince everyone that the police officer who committed suicide was, in reality, murdered by Norwalk police officers. He wove a very strange story, but during it his hatred of the police evidenced itself, probably because of his own criminal record.

  • 10 news hound // Sep 24, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Once again TG gets the news that the hour refuses to print.

  • 11 Ex Cop // Sep 24, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    It is curious that the Mayor chose to sit out this very significant bit of his responsibilities and instead sent in a salaried City employee to take his place. There is a provision in the police contract for this, but it is curious, and unprecedented. Maybe he is nervous about what questions defense counsel might ask.
    Sgt. Couture probably should not have gone to Lt. Cummings when he did, but it is an understandable reaction. A more reasonable action by the commission probably would not have been appealed to the State Labor Board, as this one surely will.
    I am not sure, even if they fired him, they can take away the retirement benefits he worked 24 yrs for. We will soon see.
    If the State’s Attorney had not ordered Couture to tell no one, he would surely have gone to the chief, and none of these charges would have been brought. I think the big issue here is the Chief’s ego was bruised when he was kept out of the loop for a while. His real gripe is with the State’s attorney, not with Couture. He is not the first to take out his anger on the wrong person.
    Maybe the Mayor recognized what was going on and wanted no part of it. He talks to a lot of people and surely has some inside information coming from within the department.

  • 12 Anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Rilling is a disgrace.

  • 13 MrBozak // Sep 24, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Yea, here comes more support to the ” Good Guys”. You bloggers never support my criminal ventures? Maybe if I was a wolf in sheeps clothing then you would have more respect for me. Should I get a pad at dreamy hollow and start luring teenagers back for some partying? Maybe I should shoot a ” Mental patient” and claim that he was armed and posed a threat. Or maybe you would prefer that I tell a public servant that they are under investigation so they can have some time to clean-up their trail. Some classy friends you guys have.
    Also, please stop worring about what is on the criminal record. Its what isnt on the record that should concern you.

  • 14 Anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Has anyone considered the morale of the department or the lack of?

  • 15 anon // Sep 24, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Ex-cop, do you have any insight as to accusations regarding a cover-up regarding Rilling’s brother or sexual harassment complaints against the Police Commissioner?

  • 16 anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    Bozak, are you a worthless criminal drain on society who has never contributed to society or do you have any redeeming qualities. A mental patient with a gun is more of a menace to society than anything.

  • 17 MrBozak // Sep 24, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    The Mental Patient wasnt armed when he was shot. And I do have redeeming qualities that others note, but me blogging on here is not one of them. As far as worthless criminal, crime doesnt pay. So anyone involved in a crime is a worthless criminal, regardless of where they get their paycheck.
    #16 Thank you for your concern. But I think most of the people posting on here have long since made up their minds. Maybe I shouldnt be so honest and have some shame!

  • 18 Anonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    I think this is a disgusting thread giving Norwalk a black eye.Our city will now experience a downturn in business and real estate will suffer when people google Norwalk.Its a damm shame after all Moccia has done for the city and to have this happen.Dick please come out from under you desk and tell everyone to stop it.

  • 19 MrBozak // Sep 24, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    #18 you are a little late. Businesses are experiencing a downturn and real estate has suffered. But you are right, even Bush knows that it is time to come out of his desk, wait hes on T.V. right now!

  • 20 ex cop II // Sep 24, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    This thread is really interesting. So many with so much to say and so little knowledge of what has actually gone on throughout the years. All the people, the players, who have been fired or forced out richly deserve what they have received. The consistent and repulsive behaviors that have been recently brought to light are the culmination of years of tolerated depravity. Now that the NPD has been somewhat illuminated, the scurrying insects begin their frantic flights. Those in power put forth a facade of self-righteous indignation and “moral and ethical outrage”, the deviants begin their mournful whining that they have been wronged by the admininstration and are deserving of the “second chance”. As one who knows the evolution from the inside, who has witnessed it firsthand and seen the lack of response from those who needed to respond most to make a difference, I can ask only that you believe me when I say that all the people who have been recently fired are well deserving of such disgrace. In fact, be assured that if all were known they would be seen to have escaped true justice for their abhorrent and flagrant deviance throughout their years of “dis-service”. Sgt. Steve Couture was apparently also an accomplished “con man” by the comments in this blog. His own ego and financial gain have been his only concern since he joined the department. Make a note that just because someone doesn’t have long record of disciplinary action in their file, this is not evidence that he/”she” has been a good officer of good moral character who has served the city well. More often than not in Norwalk it is only further evidence of the sustained incompetence and unwillingness of the administration to take appropriate action.
    Forgive my long-winded remarks but sometimes the frustration and ignorance surrounding this once fine department is overwhelming.
    The recent firings and imposed retirements are all long, long, long, overdue. In addition, there are more to go if change and reformation are truly sought.
    God Bless my friends and colleagues at the NPD. Stay Safe and be patient.

  • 21 anon // Sep 24, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    If there are issues of abuse in Sgt. Couture’s past, please enlighten us because my many friends in the police dept think he was one of the good ones.

  • 22 MrBozak // Sep 24, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Tell the dirt ex-cop II, but be careful not to offend. The friends of Cummings had a hard time accepting the truth about their hero. It seems we are in a like senario.

  • 23 anon // Sep 24, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    This is going to get nasty. Even my cop friends who supported Rilling in the past are turning against him on this one.

  • 24 ex cop II // Sep 24, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Truly, ignorance is bliss. Be happy. Suffice it to say much has gone on before, change is up to the intelligent, strong and committed leadership, real and honest leadership that is more concerned with the common good than the rewards of politics and perceived power. If the culture of a police department is determined by those in positions of authority and command, do the math. Look at what is happening and do the math. It is butt covering time. Yes, heads will roll, and deservedly so, but as always, not all the heads, just those that are politically expedient.
    #15 - yep
    Good night and God Bless

  • 25 Ex Cop // Sep 24, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Rillings brother, Richard, retired after many years of exemplary service. One of his last assignments was in the special services division where they do narcotics and vice investigations. There is a fund, managed by the supervisor of that division, that is used for undercover drug buy money and, in some instances, to compensate informants for certain expenses. This fund was found to be short some money. It was never clearly established if money was really missing, or if vouchers accounting for it had been misplaced. Rilling accepted full responsibility because whatever happened, had happened “on his watch” and paid an amount into that fund to make it whole. He then retired to take a very responsible job with the sherrif’s department, shortly before the state took over the sherrifs and made them state marshall’s. He was never charged with anything, and those of us who knew him well believe he took a hit for somebody else’s mistakes. There was no cover-up and the papers had a field day with the story.
    Pete Torrano also served well for many years and retired with the rank of captain. To the best of my knowlege, he never faced misconduct charges. That is not to say nobody ever made a complaint, but all complaints were thoroughly investigated and I don’t know of any against him that ever developed into departmental charges. The department has been pretty proactive about complaints against officers and probably still is.
    There was a period of time when it was pretty common for persons being arrested to make claims of police misconduct in the hopes of getting cases dismissed. Sometimes it worked. I guess it still happens, but most of the time experienced officers make sure they have a witness when making an arrest.
    That “mental patient” was in fact armed with a rifle when he was shot after refusing to drop the weapon. The City, and the officers were not charged by the department or the court, but were sued in civil court where it is much easier to make a case than in criminal court.(remember OJ ) The court found the shooting, while unfortunate, was entirely justified by law and the circumstances and ruled for the City.
    A lot of cops, over the years, have resigned rather than face departmental charges they think may turn out badly. The department does not go out of its way to bring attention to these cases.

  • 26 anonymous // Sep 25, 2008 at 6:03 am

    Ex cop-i have had a great deal of respect for you on this site because most of what you say has been confirmed by cops and former cops I know. Buth their story is a little than different on this one than yours. All agreed Rilling’s brother was a nice guy, but when he was in the Drug Unit, he went through something like a mid-life crisis. While I won’t go into details, part of that life was supported by Federal drug money that was sent to Norwalk. He supposedly deposited those checks into his bank account, and when the FBI was auditing the books, the Norwalk shortage matched the amount of checks deposited into his bank account. An arrest warrant was issued, and he was brought into the Chief’s office and given the option to resign and pay back the money, or be arrested.

  • 27 Ex Cop // Sep 25, 2008 at 11:02 am

    Anonymous #26.
    Any grant check from the federal government would be made out to the City, not to an individual, and would never be seen by a police officer.
    The FBI did not do an audit. I understood it was done in house as part of routine records-keeping.
    If the FBI had been involved, and a warrant had been issued, it would have been a federal warrant and nobody would be able to offer a way to avoid being charged. Warrants are court orders and the federal judge that issued one would be quick to issue another for anybody, especially a police chief, who negotiated with the person named in it, to avoid arrest. Any deals made after a warrant is issued are made, after an arrest, by US attorneys and require approval by the court.
    The version of the story you have heard is based, to a great extent, on false rumors that circulated in the department at the time.
    There was a small difference between the actual cash on hand and the balance the records showed should have been there. It was never established if cash had been stolen, or if paperwork was wrong or missing. Richard made up the difference, out of his own money, and then took advantage of a job opportunity he had been pursuing with the Sherrif’s department, and retired with full benefits. That is very different from resigning.
    No charges of any kind were ever filed, by the police dept., or in court.
    Somebody, hoping to put the Chief on the spot, leaked bits and pieces to the press and the stories there made it sound like a major scandal involving many thousands of dollars.

  • 28 anon // Sep 25, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    ex-cop, nice try, but it wasn’t so clean, cut and dry. there was a discrepancy about a federal check and it was finally refunded and the good sgt. suddenly stepped down.
    are you suggesting that this individual stepped up and paid money out of pocket to help someone else out of a jam and then gave up his job. Youre kidding right? How long did you spend in SS? Was Cummings starting a after school teen program for wayward Norwalk youth?

  • 29 Not a cop // Sep 26, 2008 at 1:32 am

    Please help me understand the cop culture.

    1. A perp cop s***k*d an underaged kid’s penis, in violation of the law.
    2. A friend of the cop that s***k*d the underaged kid’s penis in violation of the law tipped off the perp cop that he, the perp cop, was the target of a prosecution for s***king an underaged kid’s penis.
    3. Because of the tip-off, the enforcement of the law against s***king an underaged kid’s penis was compromised.
    4. The tipper cop, who tipped-off the perp cop that he was the target of prosecution for s***king an underaged kid’s penis in violation of the law is, he, himself, sworn to to the duty of upholding and enforcing the law against s***king an underaged kid’s penis.
    5. The tip-off to the perp cop who was the target of prosecution for s***king an underaged kid’s penis was in derrogation of the tipper cop’s sworn duty to uphold and enforce the law against s***king an underaged kid’s penis.
    6. The tipper cop gets fired for not upholding his duty to enforce the law against s***king an underaged kid’s penis.
    7. Many other cops, who themselves are sworn to to to the duty of upholding and enforcing the law against s***king an underaged kid’s penis, see fit to complain that the cop who tipped off the perp cop that he was the target of prosecution for s***king an underaged kid’s penis, was wrongfully fired for failing to uphold his duty to enforce the law against s***king an underaged kid’s penis.

    Can someone explain to me why the cop who tipped off the perp cop about the prosecution for s***king an underaged kid’s penis in violation of the law, should not have been fired for failing to uphold his duty to enforce the law against s***king an underaged kid’s penis?

  • 30 anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 6:06 am

    I will try to help you.
    1. The underaged child met perp on an adult web site posing as an 18 year old adult.

    2. When the child told someone about it, that person contacted Westport PD and told them that the person who posed as an 18 year old adult on an adult website looking for sex was actually underaged.

    3. Westport PD contacted underaged child and parents who refuse to cooperate and don’t want to testify or become involved in a police investigation, as is often the case in sex crimes.

    4. Westport police contact Norwalk Sgt. To give him heads up about incident occurring in Norwalk, but that victim and parents refuse to cooperate.

    5 Norwalk Sgt., who believes that this is an incident where underaged person has lied about their age to trick adult and now will not cooperate with police.

    6. Police do not force a victim of sexual assault to participate in criminal investigation as that is really a decision better left up to victim. Family, and counselors. They feel that the victims needs and wishes to help them recover are the most important thing.

    7. Norwalk Sgt., feeling that with no cooperating victim, there is no investigation, but feels an obligation to tell perp cop that he better be careful meeting people on line because one of the people he met on an adult dating website claiming to be an adult was actually underage.

    8. Perp cop gets to retire with full benefits and no sanctions for having sex with numerous minors.

    9. Norwalk Sgt. Gets fired for telling now retired cop with full benefits that he got fooled by underage person who claimed to be 18 on adult dating site and he better be careful who he meets online.

  • 31 Anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 7:59 am

    What I can’t believe is that this disgusting excuse for a human being - ex-cop or NOT - was retired “with full benefits”!

    THAT’S where your TAX MONEY is going, folks!!!!

  • 32 Anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 9:49 am

    For some of the people posting here, the real issue is that the crime involved homosexual behavior. #29 referred to sucking a penis more than a dozen times. Did it give him a thrill to type that, or did he do it to shock people? While there would probably still be objections, heterosexual behavior wouldn’t evoke such passion.

    Assuming that the details we have are true, I don’t dispute Cummings’ guilt. The law doesn’t excuse someone who engages in sex with an underage person, even if the person has lied about his/her age. Couture’s involvement isn’t so cut-and-dry; he wasn’t acting to help a pedophile. Thinking that there wasn’t going to be a prosecution because the young man and his family said that he wouldn’t testify, Couture was telling his friend to exercise better judgment because he was putting himself and others into jeopardy.

    I hope that he wasn’t treated more harshly because Cummings was involved in homosexual activity, but I suspect that he was.

  • 33 Anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 10:20 am

    The irony is rich that cops get hoisted by their own petard - an underage kid posing as an adult. How many times have they entrapped adults over the internet with enticements by ADULT COPS posing as kids, and then prosecute for attempt even though there was no victim and the crime was impossible to commit.

  • 34 Ex Cop // Sep 26, 2008 at 11:05 am

    #28 ANON:
    I am not suggesting anything like that. There was a discrepency in a cash fund maintained in special services when Richard Rilling was in charge. He took full responsibilty for failing to properly maintain that fund, account for expenditures, etc. and replaced the apparently missing amount. Then he retired to take a job he had previously applied for. He was not charged with anything, and the discrepency was never explained. I don’t know who took money, if any was really missing, or if the book-keeping was wrong. I know Richard pretty well and believe he is an honest man.
    As far as “tipping” a perp about an investigation, Couture was the person responsible for such investigations in Norwalk and talking to supects is a part of most investigations. The next step would normally be filing a report, but the prosecutor called and told him to keep the story secret, even from the Chief. Couture didn’t tell the prosecutor he had spoken to Cummings. Later investigation of other cases, with different victims, resulted in the “perp” Cummings being arrested and resigning. Couture made mistakes, but was in a tough position. He should have gone to the Chief, but the prosecutor told him not to. He should have opened a case and filed a report, but Cummings had access to all such reports. He should have told the prosecutor he was talking with Cummings and refused to keep it secret. Hindsight is so easy. Investigating and arresting another cop is not.

  • 35 anon // Sep 26, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    #34 okay, seriously, how long were you in SS? I like Richard as well but he made some bad choices and I would really need to see the application for his present job to see when he applied. I ahve a very hard time believing he was leaving before the allegations were made. I believe what you wrote was nonsense. However, that was fixed and he moved on. the past.
    As to sgt couture, he was in no way contacting a “suspect” in a sexual assault case, he was giving a freind and coworker a heads up. Don’t try to make this look like this great and noble man was trying to do his job and protect the public. couture was not in a tough position. he should have shut his mouth, used common sense and perhpas developed some true commitment to his profession somewhere along the way. Sorry but knowing him and all the players involved, i can’t feel too sorry for him. Whether or not he gets his job back, i can’t really say i care, but i can say he does not deserve the job and never did.

  • 36 Sonny // Sep 26, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    How does a Detective from another jurisdiction tell the Commanding Officer of the Youth Bureau that a sexual assualt case in Norwalk involving a minor is closed? Did anybody in Norwalk talk to the victim or family before tipping Cummings off? Even if the victim was 16. Is that appropriate behavior for a 47 year old Police Lieutenant. And should he be notified first? Before the Chief?

  • 37 anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    If the youth was 16 they wouldn’t be in this mess because it would be perfectly legal for the 16 year old to have sex with anyone 16 or older.

  • 38 Sonny // Sep 26, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    I hope you are not a Norwalk Police Officer. I don’t think it is ok for a 47 year old Police Lieutenant to have sex with a high school kid. Even if it is legal. I also don’t think the citizens of Norwalk want their Police to be doing this. Clearly a bad bad move and just as bad to think that behavior is ok. (just because it it legal)

  • 39 Anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    Right on, Sonny! How many times have we seen in the news stories about adult WOMEN having sex with minor MALES?? Anyone remember Mary Letourneau?? If it was “wrong” for Mary Letourneau to have sex with a 13-year old, then it is wrong for this cop to have sex with a kid under 16 AS WELL, REGARDLESS of what sex the kid was.

    And frankly, if the cop who had sex with the kid believes himeself to be GAY, then he should come out of hiding and be upfront with his boss, his coworkers, and ESPECIALLY HIS FAMILY if he has one - wife and kids, parents, etc.

    To skulk around seeking sex and meeting partners through the internet is absolutely NO different than what a typical SEX OFFENDER does, and this guy ARRESTS sex offenders for doing the exact same thing HE was doing.

    Gee, maybe this “cop” ought to arrest HIMSELF.

  • 40 anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Not a cop, but if it was legal, I wouldn’t really care what he did.

  • 41 anon // Sep 26, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    They should really raise the legal age to 18. If you are in your fourties, you can wait until they graduate from high school, and 18 would be close enough.

  • 42 Anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Officer Cummings was not just gay; he was a pedophile and in charge of kids, no less. He got sexually aroused for our sons who are young, impressionable and legal; but apparently “legal” was not young enough. The irony is rich here that one of our kids passed himself off as an adult, and a cop gets a hand-slap with full benefits. What about when perps succumb to the entrapment of ADULT cops, thinking they’re gearing up to diddle a child? No victim there, and the crime is impossible to commit but the cops have a field day with the attempt bust.

    I have no respect for Cummings’ brethren cops because I didn’t see them protest against this pedophile, his crime and his bid to get full benefits for a cop life that was a lie. If his brethren cops really believed in enforcing child predator laws, they should have enforced loudly the law against this scumbag and brought shame down on him as easily as they bring shame down on entrapped innocents. Otherwise, their sympathy for his benefits can’t be disassociated from a sympathy for his crime. They must all be child sex perps themselves. Cummings got off more lightly than a liquor store owner who got busted by an underage-teen sting with cop-supplied fake IDs.

    Oh, and speaking of stings, this makes me wonder what is going on in the mind of a cop who volunteers to surf the web with immunity for child porn? We all know the psycho-physical effects on men who view sexually explicit porn. What about the cops viewing these pictures; the cops that didn’t protest against Cummings? Are they repulsed enough? And if they’re so repulsed by those images, how can they engage in such a perversion? Did “Cum”mings do that stuff?

  • 43 Anonymous // Sep 26, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    why isn’t this list on the Norwalk police dept site?

    http://www.city-data.com/soz/soz-06854.html

  • 44 Ex Cop // Sep 28, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    SONNY: There are several questions that we have not heard answers for. The victim they were talking about is a Weston resident, the act, or acts, took place in Norwalk. Some Weston resident, not the victim, tells the story to a Westport Detective, not filing a complaint, just passing along a story with no direct information how true it may be. The Westport Detective heard enough to know it was not a Westport case and to understand the victim’s family apparently wanted no part in filing a complaint. Nevertheless, the Westport officer dutifully reported it to the guy in the Norwalk Dept. who is assigned to such cases, Couture. He made a number of bad moves immediately, and no good ones, they we know of. The Westport officer did what she was supposed to do. Couture apparently did not. We don’t even know if he had the name of the Weston victim, but there is no indication he made any effort to find that person. Whatever he did or failed to do was complicated by the prosecutor who somehow got the same story and told Couture to keep quiet about it. Without the call from the prosecutor, very soon after the call from the Westport officer, it would probably have dawned on Couture he needed to do something like opening a case file and making an effort to get the story, first-hand, from the victim. Because the suspect was another officer, he would have, in the normal course of business, without the call from the prosecutor, talked to the chief as soon as possible. He didn’t and the chief and the commission decided his mistakes justified firing him almost a year later. We’ll see if that decision is supported by the State Labor Board.

  • 45 Sonny // Sep 30, 2008 at 11:21 am

    Ex cop#14. Was he going to open a criminal case after he tipped Cummings(the suspect)off? GET REAL!!!!! I think with his position and experience it should have “dawned” on him to call the Chief and open an investigation prior to any calls from the prosecutor and conversations with the suspect.

  • 46 Ironic // Sep 30, 2008 at 11:36 am

    There was no investigation to open in that case because without a victim who is willing to cooperate, there is no investigation. What I find ironic in all this is that they waited to make promotions until they could fire the guy at number 1 on the list so that they could promote a guy in his place who used a child as a human shield against an armed subject. Those in my community don’t forget easily.

  • 47 Sonny // Sep 30, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Went right to the suspect within minutes. Never tried to open an investigation. Read #6. Stop trying to put up a smoke screen. Don’t look for something that happend 17 years ago to cover up this incident, Not even close.It is what it is. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck must be a ……..

  • 48 Ironic // Sep 30, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    17 years ago? That is pretty exact???

  • 49 sonny // Sep 30, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Like you said, the community doesn’t forget easily. Ironic, isn’t it

  • 50 Anonymous // Sep 30, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Its about time the standards change for bad cops..I am glad that this poor excuse for an officer was temminated…I would hope that criminal charges would now be brought on him for interfering with an investigation.

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