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Norwalk’s Camp Doug World Peace Accords


by turfgrrl


August 28th, 2008 · 12 Comments

When President Jimmy Cater invited Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin for 12 days of secret peace negotiations at Camp David, it led to the to eventual Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty. Oh we should be so lucky with the latest attempt and ending the Hatfield and McCoy’s simmering feud over the management of the Norwalk Museum. Doug Hempstead plays the role of Jimmy Carter and the Friends of the Norwalk Museum and the Historical Commission play Egypt and Israel.

Of course the management of the Norwalk Museum, funded, or rather, underfunded by the city of Norwalk is exactly the issue that Common Council should be grappling with. How much tax dollars should go towards cultural heritage? That’s right up there with how much tax dollars should go towards education, pot holes, sewer maintenance, and garbage removal. Norwalk struggles with funding the basic operations of the city, so why does anyone think that the city of Norwalk will be able to fund the operation of a museum?

The Hour reports:

The chairman of the Common Council’s Land Use and Building Management Committee says he hopes to put to rest feuding between the Norwalk Historical Commission and The Friends of The Norwalk Museums, Inc.

The Friends, whose volunteers had worked in the museum for years, recently removed its belongings from the building gift shop per orders of the Historical Commission.

The move didn’t sit well with Councilman Douglas E. Hempstead, Land Use committee chairman.

“I want it to end. I want everybody to shake hands and come out and make it all work. I always feel sadly for volunteer groups that kind of get cut off at the knees,” Hempstead told committee members Tuesday night. “I’m sure the truth is in between all this stuff. I’m sure both sides have some fault in all this.”

On Tuesday night, committee members discussed the roles of the Historical Commission and council in museum operations, including whether the council may remove the museum at 41 North Main St. from the list of commission-managed buildings. A letter from the city’s law department has indicated otherwise.

For now, Hempstead hopes to bring representatives of The Friends and Historical Commission, along with the head of the city’s law department, to the September meeting of the Land Use Committee.

The Historical Commission, under chairman David W. Park, plans to reopen its own gift shop in the museum. Asked if he will attend next month’s Land Use Committee meeting, Park said, “it’s a possibility.”

“The bottom line is The Friends were never kicked out of the museum — they ‘went on strike’ Dec. 23,” Park said. “The Friends are welcome to continue to volunteer there, but it’s under the direction of the curator.”

Operation of the museum has proved contentious over the years, as evidenced by quarreling between The Friends and Curator Susan Gunn Bromley, and by debate among members of the Historical Commission.

Friends members have worked in the Norwalk Museum for much of the volunteer organization’s 35-year existence, including last year when museum Gunn Bromley was absent on medical leave. Friends volunteers last worked in the museum Dec. 23 and then left, according to Park. Supporters of The Friends maintain the volunteers were locked out of the building.

Several years ago, Gunn stood on one side of the quarrel and The Friends and Historical Commission stood on the other. Early last year, Mayor Richard A. Moccia appointed new commission members who enjoy a better relationship with Gunn but not necessarily with The Friends. Among them is Park.

Joseph Robidoux, Friends president, said his organization cleared its belongings from the museum gift shop last week, then cleaned and vacuumed the space. He described the current relationship between the Friends and the Historical Commission as “not very friendl,” but expressed hope that the matter can be resolved.

“The bottom line is I want that museum to survive,” Robidoux said. “I hope that maybe this can be resolved, that we don’t have hard feelings and this can be worked through some day.”

Park, not at Tuesday night’s meeting of the Land Use Committee, cited a recent legal opinion from Corporation Counsel Robert F. Maslan Jr.

“We have authority over the museum and all these other properties,” Park said. “By city code, we’re the ones that are supposed to make recommendations to the Common Council on properties. We should have control over and not the other way around.”

Maslan wrote that the Historical Commission, not the council, has the authority to “make and remove historic designations” under city code. While the council has the authority to “approve or disapprove a designation or a removal of a designation,” it may not initiate such actions “in the absence of a commission action.”

As such, the matter is over, according to Moccia.

“The Historical Commission has made their decision. They run the museum,” Moccia said Wednesday. “It’s time to move on.”

The Norwalk Museum, including its lease and collection, as well as Mill Hill Historic Park, Lockwood Mathews Mansion and Brookside, Kellogg and Pine Island cemeteries, are managed by the commission.

Last year, The Friends sought to codify its presence in the museum through an operating agreement with the city. Hempstead’s committee advanced the agreement. The Historical Commission first supported the agreement, then later rescinded that support and approved its own operating guidelines.

source: The Hour, Hempstead wants feud to end between Friends, Historical Commission, by Robert Koch, August 28, 2008

Tags: History · Norwalk

12 Responses so far “Norwalk’s Camp Doug World Peace Accords”



  • 1 Anonymous // Aug 28, 2008 at 11:01 am

    Doug I think you are a bit late on this issue. The Mayor of Oz has spoken.

    Watch out LMMM the HC will be gunning for you next.

  • 2 sick of the BS // Aug 28, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Doug is always a voice of reason, perhaps he will make some headway with this ongoing battle. I don’t think Doug really cares who will be gunning for him, I think his main concern is to call a peace treaty and get down to business at hand that affects the city. Those who wish to constantly cause uproar and diversity amoung city agencies are the ones who need to step back and take a second look at how their actions affect everyone.

    What is the problem with the “Friends” running the gift shop? I think the concern should be whether the museum is running a full throttle and that it is open to the public, clean and organized as well as people working together to make it a place of pride and history for future generations. Those that feel they have only their personal agenda’s to put forth should be removed from power and let someone go in and run it properly.

    Trying to bring my grandkids to see a little bit of Norwalk history has become a tedious affair because each and everytime we have tried, its closed. Who do these people think they are that they feel they can suck the lifeblood out of the city coffers and not perform their paid jobs as is expected?

    If the curator has difficulty running the museum as it should be run then she needs to step down and put it in the hands of someone who is willing to preserve the history of Norwalk as it should be preserved. All these posts pro and con do nothing to help the situation.

    Someone needs to step up and do whats right. You can all comne out and say she does a wonderful job, but those of us who have nothing to do with the museum other than trying our darnest to vist and bring our kids and grandkids to what should be a wonderful experience are just completely disgusted.

    Don’t go getting huffy about it either because I as well as others have even called there to ask if the museum will be open on such and such a day and have been told by the curator to call prior to visiting because she may not be open at all times. Thats a bunch of horse pucky. There are posted hours that the museum is to be open and since the taxpayers foot the bill I suggest someone give her a wakeup call.

  • 3 Get with the program // Aug 28, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    Sheesh, for the thousandth time, it is NOT THE CURATOR who determines her work hours - it is the CITY PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT.

    If you have a problem with the Museum not being open or the curator not being there, YOU NEED TO DIRECT YOUR COMMENTARY TO THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT and stop whining on this blog!!!

    Clean out your ears (or get new glasses, whatever it takes to get it through your head!)

  • 4 Worked for other museums, knows how it's done // Aug 28, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    What the City ought to do is completely divest itself of the museum altogether, and allow it to be run by a Board of Directors.

    The Friends should be completely disbanded and a new Friends organization started from scratch, with completely new people who have no axes to grind and no agendas to push - people who have a fresh new outlook on what should be done to promote Norwalk’s historical heritage.

    The museum should then apply to be accredited according to the New England Museum Association standards (one of which is that no “junk or tag sale shops” are allowed, only legitimate gift shops - says so right in the NEMA regulations.)

    Then a Director should be appointed, a grantwriter hired, and a 501(c)3 nonprofit tax ID of its own should be obtained.

    But the City itself should have nothing more to to with running the museum, and the current Friends organization is so full of venom, hate, and the desire to screw up anything positive coming out of that museum that they themselves didn’t have something to do with that they should be completely and immediately disbanded.

    Or if they want to remain as a viable group they must change their name to something completely different and turn their attention to some other organization in the City that chooses to benefit from their so-called “largesse”.

    However, the actions of this group over the past 8 or so years has left such a bad taste in most people’s mouths that I strongly doubt they’d be welcome anywhere else.

  • 5 Anonymous // Aug 28, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    I agree with most of these posters - get rid of them all. It seems to me that if Sue Gunn were an effective leader, or facilitator, or even team player, she wouldn’t need David Parks codifying the relationship between the curator and the Friends. They will work under her direction? This might mean something if she had the requisite skills.

  • 6 Anonymous // Aug 28, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    This is getting old - people need to move on. If people are unhappy with the operation of the museum in another year, they can make their voice heard with their votes in the city election next year.

    All of this almost makes me miss the crime and boe posts….well, okay, not really.

  • 7 OPEN GOVERNMENT // Aug 28, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Seems pretty hopeless after 3 mayoral administrations and no resolution of a city employee who obviously needs to be fired. Why are they so afraid of Sue Gunn and her attorney?

    I like this idea of the city divesting itself of the museum. Not likely that this mayor/council could agree on something so sensible, however.

  • 8 Anonymous // Aug 28, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    #7-She has the backing of her uncle Frank Zullo who is the reason she has the job in the first place. Need anyone say more? He is the former mayor, a ruthless atty for the redevelopment companies etc etc etc. Please, everything that goes on is because of polital persuasions. Take a closer look at who’s who in city positions and you will see that the trail is long and imbedded. These jobs didn’t just materialize within t6he last few admins, well some did but not all. The ties go back decades to those who have been given favors above and beyond. Dare anyone go against those who hold the reins? I think not. The city would do well to remove themselves from the museum and stop paying for a curator. Wouldn’t it be great if we could all get some cushy jobs with lifetime bennies just because of who we know?

  • 9 BEWARE the ides of March // Aug 28, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    “She has the backing of her uncle Frank Zullo who is the reason she has the job in the first place.”

    It’s called “Those with the power and money protect each other.”

    That was one of the causes of both the French and the Russian Revolutions.

    TAKE NOTE Those in power

  • 10 WoW // Aug 29, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    I would like to know since when does an appointed commission tell the Common Council what to do. Atty Maslan seems to be rewriting (no doubt according to instructions from the mayor), the city codes. It was always understood that the HC is responsible to the Land Use Committee who is responsible to the Council. It seems to me that we are setting a precedent here that says any commission sets their own rules and to hell with the Council. Norwalk is a council form of goverment with the mayor subordinate to the council (even though he thinks he’s Julius Caesar). How did all this change in such a short period of time? Something is very wrong here in government that allows the rules to flip-flop according to the whims of who is in power at the moment. I think what is happening in Norwalk needs to be investigated by a higher authority. And I ask the duly elected members of the Common Council to stop and check how their authority is being eroded by the present Historical Commission and Dave Parks and company. Also, it seems to me that their president Fred Bondi is looking the other way because it fits his agenda and his overwhelming support of the Gunn story. And this seems to be the right time for any other commission in Norwalk to get through their agendas and just bypass the council. Maslan has set the precedent. And, by the way, the Friends were Common Council approved.

  • 11 Curious // Aug 29, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    #8, do you know for a fact that Frank Zullo is Susan Gunn’s “uncle”??

    Can you back up your statement with PROOF?

    I’d watch out if I were you. That’s both a libelous assertation and a slanderous one, if it is untrue.

    Kindly provide your PROOF, please.

  • 12 anonymous // Oct 29, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    # 11 you pri$k - always defending soo… get a life.

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