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Lieberman And The GOP


by turfgrrl


August 21st, 2008 · 26 Comments

The anti-Lieberman forces will be out in pillorying Lieberman for speaking at the GOP convention. Lest we forget good old Zell Miller in 2004. Ultimately these national political conventions have lost their meaning. Both parties have worked their way into corners where the nominee isn’t decided anymore by a floor vote of arm twisting and old fashion wrangling. Candidates aren’t candid. Balloons will be red, white and blue, and the television talking heads will breathlessly report who ate what for breakfast– as a new form of polling data.

There are a couple of conventions that I would eagerly attend. One is TED. You can check it out here. The other is theĀ  World Economic Forum in Davos. Great things can come from the cross pollination of ideas and viewpoints. This is something that recently has been absent in national politics. While we are very much a purple nation, the two political parties are busy trying define red and blue. While the world is changing due to shifting economic activity, our two political politics are mired in the minutia of modifying individual behaviors.

But if we must focus on the conventions, here’s my advice on how to make them a wee bit more interesting. Vice President Cheney will send Emperor Palpatine to speak from an undisclosed location and he will demonstrate how to shoot a friend at the GOP convention. At the Democratic convention Bill Clinton, Gary Hart and John Edwards will speak about personal responsibility. The robots from Mystery Science Theater will provide all commentary.

Tags: Presidential 2008

26 Responses so far “Lieberman And The GOP”



  • 1 MGeake // Aug 21, 2008 at 7:13 am

    What, the $6K/yr dues keep you from going to TED? Not to worry, Long Beach 2009 is sold out anyway. ;)

  • 2 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 8:27 am

    I’ll take an adulterer over an incompentent, corrupt mass murderer any day.

  • 3 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Good for Lieberman! FINALLY, a politician who supports candidates who are the best PEOPLE for the offices, and doesn’t kowtow to some stupid party line or platform that he is not in total agreement with.

    I applaud Joseph Lieberman. This is ONE politico who obviously has a pair of big brass ones and is not afraid to act on his convictions.

    Too bad more politicians aren’t like him.

    Lieberman will have my vote as long as he runs for office, no matter WHAT party he affiliates with.

  • 4 Non Partisan Citizen // Aug 21, 2008 at 10:19 am

    It is NOT about party lines with Lieberman, it is about his support for a disasterous war in Iraq that was based on bad information, poor planning and unrealistic expectations about what could be accomplished. The same goes for Chris Shays.

  • 5 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Lie-berman has no cojones, he is just another smarmy opportunist. Look what he’s done with his position as a so-called “independent”: talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, he’s got a kneepad on each side so he can service both parties. He can’t have it both ways. He should drop the charade and make the switch. What a hypocrite.

  • 6 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 11:11 am

    The thing you are forgetting is that no politician “has to” toe any sort of party line. Too often that fact is completely overlooked by the lemmings who run for office.

    I don’t want someone voting on laws who is only doing so because his political party tells him to. And I don’t want that guy electing other officials because his political party said so. I want MY politicians to elect the best people for the job, not the party hack most likely to obey the party line, whether I agree with it or not.

    To put it bluntly - I want people with conviction and a conscience. I don’t want an automaton or a robot who does what is programmed into them.

  • 7 barnstorm // Aug 21, 2008 at 11:27 am

    Joe Lieberman is just indicative of what our two party system has become. The actual party differences have become so blurred that ideology hardly matters anymore. Republicans and Democrats are just two sides of the same problem.

    The sad thing is that the only alternatives to this seem to be from the wingnuts of the lunatic fringe.

    #6, if you think nobody has to toe the party line anymore, just look locally to the Norwalk Democrats. Then look to see how far you get on the Republican side if you don’t kiss Art’s butt.

  • 8 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 11:32 am

    #4-you might want to look at both parties when you want to accuse people of supporting a war based on poor information. Take a look at those who voted for and supported this war until they found it wasn’t good for their political careers. Please! Hillary and party were right there on the rally line and were all gung ho to go to war. Now they all need to get to the task of a time line to bring our troops home no matter what their party affiliation. Chris Shays is no different and believes in his convictions and doesn’t waiver because of political pressures. While I for one hope that he and others understand that a timeline for withdrawal should be first and foremost I also belive that Chris has done enormous good for CT and the country as a whole. I don’t care what party someone belongs to as long as they have the hudspa to stand up to their convictions and not waiver because of whats good for themselves and their careers. This goes for local politicians as well.

  • 9 Kurm Udgeon // Aug 21, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Right on Barnstorm.You have sadly identified that there isn’t any real difference who gets there, they all seem to be self indulgent, ass kissing, pocket lining professional (if one can refer to them as professional) politicians, whose sole thought is how to get reelected and suckle at the public teat, instead of how to serve the interests of those who elected them. Promises are routinely forgotten, broken and changed, to the prevailing mood of the masters they serve.

    In a way you can’t blame them. In our democracy of convenience, if you had a chance to have a job with almost two or more months of vacation per year, health care for life, a pension which most people in the private sector couldn’t attain in two lifetimes, and almost no accountability except getting funding for pork projects back home, wouldn’t you go for it?

    Leaving Norwalk and it’s local stupidity out for this tome, don’t you think that it’s time for the public to demand term limits? Just think if this president could have one or more additional terms? Those of us who supported Lieberman for whatever selfish reasons we had, knew that he was a war mongering hawk, and had drank the neocon koolaid, but voted for him anyway. We are getting what we asked for, and had term limits been in place, we would have had to make a better choice. If all of you can put away your politics for a moment ( which I highly doubt), making politicians accountable for their actions, and giving them limited time to do it, would make for a more responsible job performance. You demand it of the school superintendent, why not of those council members, BOE members, mayors, governors and all politicians who want the publics trust, without serving their interests.

  • 10 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Suits me. I’ve always been for term limits. At least if there had been some, the Chappaquiddick Kid wouldn’t have spent his entire life sitting in the Senate voting for pork fat and avoiding a murder conviction.

  • 11 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    But we made so much money that summer driving people to see the bridge the Island never had so many visitors.Yes the Kennedy car wash was a big hit that July.

  • 12 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    Haven’t we annointed Obama yet?

  • 13 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    #8 - Those in Congress who voted to support the Iraq War did so based upon information provided by the White House and the Executive Branch of our government. Once it become obvious that the information given to them was wrong, most all of Congress realized they’d been had - except for Lieberman and Shays. Lieberman is just stubborn about it and Shays is schizophrenic, one day support a pullout and the next, not.

  • 14 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Obama? You mean “The Magic Negro”??

  • 15 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Well, I guess it was only a matter of when that this topic brought out the knuckle-dragging racists. You might find more company if you joined your mouth breathing brethren down south…

  • 16 Anonymous // Aug 21, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Huh, guess I hit a sore spot. Who knew?

  • 17 Andrew // Aug 22, 2008 at 10:20 am

    This thread makes me want to go have some cheese.

  • 18 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    Too late, buddy, you’re gonna be first in line.

    What an unintelligent excuse for a human being.

  • 19 needaviolationbutton // Aug 22, 2008 at 7:32 pm

    “What an unintelligent excuse for a human being.”

    pot calling kettle ebon?

    As if you gave a hint you have a clue beyond your nose :>

  • 20 Aunt Bertha // Aug 22, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    HI Kids, be nice. politics are personal . It is like routing for the Red Sox in a New York bar. If you do it with the right style you will not get beat up. Joe Lieberman is a nice guy with a really intelligent head on his shoulders. If he jumps to another party he does it after a lot of thought. It is not an easy thing to do and you do not make friends when you do this to your long time party friends.

  • 21 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Aunt Bertha, all Lieberman needs to do is break bonds with the Democratic Party and either become an independent or join the Republican Party. My problem is that he wants to be a Democrat but he wants to support the Republicans.

    Oh. And why would anyone cheer on the Red Sox in ANY bar ANYPLACE?

  • 22 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Something *wrong* with bipartisanship?? (eye roll)

  • 23 Aunt Bertha // Aug 22, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    #22 Joe did become an independent. He does not want to be a Democrat. He wants to be a descent man, and follow what his beliefs. I must say, I was using the Red Sox as a point that politics are personal, so I am sorry you did not get the analogy.

  • 24 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Aunt Bertha, and you didn’t get that I was teasing Red Sox fans.

    Lieberman ran as an Independent but he continues to be a registered Democrat.

  • 25 ACR // Aug 22, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    ….all Lieberman needs to do is break bonds with the Democratic Party and either become an independent or join the Republican Party.

    With his 87% liberal voting record?

    Give us a break.

    Joe’s a Dem alright - that he knows a threat while the rest of his party misses it, isn’t his fault - it’s yours.

    To sell out the security of the nation for political purpose; which is exactly what the national Dems are doing, is more than short-sighted; it’s outright treason.

  • 26 turfgrrl // Aug 23, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    I have removed a comment here that attacked another commenter. Please refrain from doing so.

    The Management.

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