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SoNo On Street Parking Uproar


by turfgrrl


August 15th, 2008 · 29 Comments

There are roughly 25 on street parking spots on Washington St. The parking authority offered up a Valet parking service to the merchants a few weeks ago, when they met with merchants to go over plans for the Haviland Garage Deck repair project. At the time, it must have seemed like a good idea, but once implemented it seems as if there was the usual uproar that ensues whenever change is introduced to parking. The Hour reports:

On Thursday morning, white bags reading “No Parking, City of Norwalk” went over parking meters that street, ushering in a weekend, valet service aimed at alleviating parking pressures during work on the nearby Haviland Deck. By late afternoon, the bags had been removed.

“We pulled the plug. Basically, (the plan) was sabotaged. Everybody pulled the bags off the meters we needed. Obviously, if removing the bags is any (indication of the) level of interest in the program, I think the answer (about its future) is quite evident,” said Frank Del Monaco, director of municipal services for LAZ Parking. “No good deed goes unpunished. As far as I’m concerned, we’re doing everything we can. We lowered the (evening) rate at Maritime Garage by 66 percent.”

Under the valet plan, now apparently defunct, four parking meters in front of Ocean Drive and six meters on the opposite side of Washington Street were to be bagged Thursday, Friday and Saturday afternoons to create a pick-up area for valet service after 5 p.m. For $10, motorists could have their vehicles taken by valet service and parked at the nearby North Water Street parking lot. After 5 p.m. on those days, the North Water Street facility, a nearby 43-space municipal lot, would be used for valet parking and self-parking would be prohibited.

The plan was part of an effort to alleviate parking pressures during the overhaul of the Haviland Deck, a 280-space municipal parking facility on Haviland Street. At the Maritime Garage, for instance, the after-5 p.m. rate has been lowered from $3 to $1 — a 66-percent reduction.

Several SoNo merchants, however, weren’t pleased with the plan for valet parking on the weekends, which they said would take away on-street parking during the afternoon since the “No Parking” bags must be placed over the meters at least two hours before the 5 p.m. start time for the valet service.

Further, the valet service was to cost $10 and eliminate use of the North Water Street lot for first-come, first-served parking after 5 p.m. on the three days.

“It’s $10 a pop every time. My customers will pay, but it’s wrong. We’re advising customers not to use it.” said Joe Bruno, owner of Pasta Nostra at 116 Washington St., early Thursday afternoon, before LAZ Parking canned the plan. And, “They’re taking 43 spaces of inventory (away).”

Bruno was one of a number of SoNo business owners to receive an e-mail from LAZ Parking Ltd. announcing the introduction of the valet service for Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays, starting at 5 p.m. According to Del Monaco, the plan was to go before the city’s Traffic Authority next week.

Bruno was not the only SoNo merchant torqued over the plan.

Joining him Thursday afternoon on Washington Street were Neil Monaster-sky, manager of the Bulldog Bar & Grill; Haszen Khalil of And Company, Inc.; Dick Peffenbach of the Higgins Group Real Estate; Larry Pellegrini of Pellegrini Jewelers; and Gina Mon-tanaro, owner of Hair Shop SoNo.

“My clientele comes in for a haircut and color,” said Montanaro, referring to afternoon customers who park on the street at the meters that were to be bagged. “Sometimes they’re here for more than two hours.”

Last week, Bruno and owners of two other Washington Street businesses met in SoNo with Del Monaco and Kathryn  R. Hebert, administrative services manager at the Public Works Department.

Bruno and Del Monaco gave differing accounts of the outcome of that meeting. Bruno said business owners offered to hire a valet service and run buses, at their expense, from Washington Street to various parking facilities, including the Maritime Garage.

Okay we are following along with some schoolhouse rock math. 25 minues 10 equals 15. There were 15 on street parking spaces still available on Washington street.With parking there are no easy solutions, ever. Which is why it was nice to see the City of Norwalk offering up cheap $1 a night parking at the Maritime Garage, which is about 750 feet away from Washington Street along Water Street and 500 feet away from North Main street either on Marshall or Ann Street.

But if we read between the lines here, it doesn’t appear that cheap parking for customers is really the issue at all.

“We restaurants who are running it would have paid for it. We shouldn’t be taking the (metered and North Water Street lot) spaces away,” Bruno said. Instead “a unilateral decision was made by the city.”

Del Monaco, however, said hiring a private firm would pose liability issues and hurdles for the city. LAZ Parking already offers valet services, such as at The Maritime Aquarium at Norwalk during special events, he said.

“We believe that by offering a valet service for the benefit of the entire Washington Street district, it will be to everyone’s benefit,” said Del Monaco earlier Thursday, before the plan was yanked. “Now of course, you don’t have to valet your car. If you want to park it yourself at the Maritime Garage for $1 (after 5 p.m.), it’s two-tenths of a mile from Washington Street.”

According to Del Monaco, the North Water lot has little turnover
after 5 p.m. and was best suited for valet parking, which will allow cars to
be stacked — double-parked by valets and attendants, increasing lot capacity.

Del Monaco acknowledged that LAZ Parking erred Thursday morning in placing “No Parking”  bags over all Washington Street meters Thursday — the bags on the west end of the street were later removed.

Well, okay then. The restaurants, vaguely attributed here so we’ll go with Bruno of Pasta Nostra wants to run his own valet service. And then the Parking Authority erred in placing bags on meters on Thursday.

Arnie D’Angelo, owner of Bacchus at 120 Washington St., described the valet parking plan as a “little overzealous” in that it would eliminate the North Street lot for general parking during valet services. At the same time, D’Angelo offered that he was willing to see how it worked.

“We’re all optimistic; we hope it works. Let’s hope it doesn’t take six months to get this (Haviland Deck) project done,” D’Angelo said.

RAM Construction Services, the city’s approved contractor for the Haviland Deck overhaul, has 120 days to complete the project or face penalties, according to public works officials. During the construction, Haviland Deck permit holders are able to park at the Maritime Garage using access cards.

If it weren’t for the insurance and liability issues, it would seem that there’s a viable valet parking service business there to be had. Especially in taking advantage of the $1 night parking at the Maritime Garage.

source: The Hour, Covered meters open unexpected can of worms, By Robert Koch, August 15, 2008

Tags: Norwalk · Transportation

29 Responses so far “SoNo On Street Parking Uproar”



  • 1 daved // Aug 15, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Bruno from Pasta Nostra is really difficult, I’m not sure he is ever happy. Did anyone see his “art installation” in the window during arts fest? He closed down for the weekend (which is stupid) and had a garbage can full of Zagat guides in the window. I guess he got a bad review?

  • 2 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 11:47 am

    Bruno used to pull the same thing during the Splash festival too. He’d close down for the day, all the while loudly complaining about his “lost business” because the street was closed. But I bet he lost more business by closing his doors for the day than he would have lost with all the foot traffic on Washington Street during the festval! All the other open restaurants have always done a good business during Splash, primarily from the foot traffic.

    Anway, as for the parking situation - I simply cannot understand this drive to enforce paid parking on the residents and visitors in this city. I don’t care if the city wants to charge for their parking garage - that’s fine. But all these other parking lots should be free! Especially those businesses who are closed after 5pm. The Webster lot should be free! If places like the Brewhouse want to keep miscellaneous parkers out of their lot, then they should come up with a solution to gate it or monitor it on their own. But the rest of the parking lots in Norwalk should be free.

    Norwalk residents have been highly taxed for years, and have been told that some of that tax money is diverted to pay for lot cleaning and maintenance. Norwalkers have been taxed into subsidizing these lots forever, and now the city wants us to pay for the “privilege” of parking in them!

    I notice that one of the only free parking lots in this town is at City Hall. Maybe the Mayor and the Common Councilmen who vote to put this stupid paid parking law into effect ought to have to pay hard-earned money to park at City Hall for a few years, just to be able to go to work, the way the rest of us have to pay to park just to buy a birthday gift or have a meal out.

    Paid parking in Norwalk is criminal and should be removed at once.

  • 3 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 11:54 am

    The Pasta Nazi? I remember when he made a big fuss over closing down and moving to Colorado (of all places) several years ago. A master at manipulating the media as well as putting his customers in their place. The Common Council would be a lot more entertaining if he were on it. Or maybe the Parking Authority…

  • 4 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    If it sounds like looks like and feels like another one of Norwalks moments of future planning moves on the city it must have problems seems it always takes a meeting after things are implemented to attain success or admit failure.Doesn’t having a meeting first sound like a better plan?

    Maybe a suggestion at this point for those who are seeking another venue,Milford Oyster fest starts today short money for a great time and Moccia has nothing to do with it.

  • 5 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    Looks like they had a meeting to sort it all out and the macaroni Nazi had a fit anyways.

  • 6 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Speaking of parking in SoNo, whatever happened to the rumored restructuring of the **street** on Washington Street? Back 3-4 years ago when the grapevine was saying that the Splash festival was going to have to be moved to Oystershell Park (yeah, right), the imminent tearing up and rebuilding of Washington Street was supposed to be the reason. And here we sit, some of us, still waiting to see it take place.

  • 7 FULL SPEED AHEAD // Aug 15, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Damn the torpedos Opps I mean bags over the parking meters. Another lets do it and see who we can piss off today.

  • 8 1 of the SMD 3 // Aug 15, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    When will someone see this “parking authority” as the mismanged, corrupt, unlawful disaster that is really is???? The mafia NJ outfit running it has been lining their pockets since that idiot Knopp handed over control of our tax dollars to them.
    ENOUGH already ! Scrap these parking nazi’s and give back our parking lots to THE TAXPAYERS !!!

  • 9 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Yeah, and Knopp is probably still receiving kickbacks from that parking deal.

  • 10 Nonymous // Aug 16, 2008 at 8:47 am

    In all my wanderings around this country, and others, this is the only town I have encountered where you have to pay to park. We also have some of the highest real estate taxes I’ve encountered, can’t SOME of those funds go toward whatever it is they’re using the parking money for?

  • 11 Jose // Aug 16, 2008 at 8:53 am

    Ever been to White Plains?

  • 12 anonymous // Aug 16, 2008 at 11:41 am

    #10 - That’s a suburban neighborhood you’ve wandered around, not a country. Stamford has free parking? West Hartford? New York? San Fran?

    Norwalk is not a “town,” rather it is a city, with a city hall, city council, city sewers, city water, city taxes and city parking.

    To me, the parking situation says “don’t come here!”

    There is enough shopping and restaurants in the rest of the city to easily avoid SoNo.

  • 13 Anonymous // Aug 16, 2008 at 11:52 am

    Webster street should be free parking. Many people come to the area every day to go shopping, to work, etc. Why should people who live in this town have to pay to patronize the businesses? Ok, so if there is a festival etc and you want to charge for parking for out of towners thats fine. But why should Norwalkers have to pay? It doesn’t make sense. We are killing the businesses in South Norwalk and we have only ourselves to blame. Charge people to park in the various garges on a long term basis and those who park at Webster to use the train can also pay a parking fee long term in a certain section of the lot allocated for train parking. People who live in Norwalk are avoiding Washington Street like having to pay to GO OUT AND SPEND MORE MONEY IN THE LOCAL ESTABLISHMENTS. Go into most of the restaurant and bars in SONO and ask people where they are from and you will find that most are from out of town and if you want to debate on that I suggest you trot down to SONO one night and be sure to take a calculator or an old fashioned pen and paper and make your own comparison of Norwalk vs out of town patrons. Just like when you go to a beach and you don’t have a sticker, you show your car registration and pay to park. Now wouldn’t that be a novel idea.

  • 14 turfgrrl // Aug 16, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    The Webster lot was never free, it had parking meters before. The cost of parking in the Webster lot has been reduced over time, well since 2005. Towns and cities are moving to paid parking because municipal finances are escalating. The cost of asphalt, doubled this past year. Fuel and energy costs, insurance, all escalated. There’s a delicate balance between sharing the operational costs with the actual users and stimulating economic activity. Norwalk now, because of the leadership of Mayor Moccia has done a better job of it. That said, there are always things that can be improved and for that we’ve seen them move to being more responsive. Change however, costs money and so new parking technology, revisiting meters in Webster have taken time.
  • 15 Anonymous // Aug 16, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    stop the nonsense Moccia has made progress with the parking he is a friggin hero your all a bunch of synical complainers.You park you pay simple as that don’t like it move.Suppose renaming Vets park to Moccia feild of dreams would be out too..He has done so much for the city he has maid parking what it should be.Washington st should only be one way as well.

  • 16 The usual idiots reply "MOVE." // Aug 16, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    #15 stated dumbly “You park you pay simple as that don’t like it move.” I am so sick and tired of A-HOLES saying “move” that if someone ever said that to my face, they would be shopping for a dental surgeon. Who the hell are you to tell us to move? I bet you never even seen the old central fire station, or Esposito’s Bakery. Sound like something Dick or Art would say, but I don’t think they are that dumb? I have been wrong before.

  • 17 barnstorm // Aug 16, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    While not quite as intolerant as #16, I generally agree with the sentiment expressed.

    #15, try proofreading before posting. It will help you look a bit less uneducated. As far as naming Vets park Moccia Field, I think you’re on to something. Before it was Vets Park it was Duffy Field. Before that it was a landfill. Naming a rotting pile of useless garbage (although covered by a well-watered green carpet of goose crap) after our Mayor seems to be just about right.

    Parking meters are a first-class ticket to failure. Look what meters have done to the Stamford Mall. Does anyone shop there anymore? Danbury and Trumbull both offer free parking and both seem to be doing just fine. Stamford is always chock full of vacancies.
    Sono was a great idea that has been vandalized by each succeeding political entity. There was never enough parking for the retail shops there and even the addition of the Maritime Garage won’t help. People simply won’t walk two blocks in the rain to dine or shop at the few remaining stores.

  • 18 Anonymous // Aug 16, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    The Webster lot may have had parking meters in it but after 6pm it was free, just like parking at any other lot with meters. And most of the time people didn’t bother to put money in the meters if they were parking anyway - and there was nobody checking.

    #17 is correct - Danbury Mall is totally free parking, even in the parking garage. And the mall is always packed. Not only that, but parking is free along Danbury’s streets too, even though there is a parking garage in what they euphamistically (and optimisically) call the “Entertainment & Dining District”.

    Norwalk should take a page from Danbury and get rid of all this paid parking. I know I won’t be going to SoNo if I have to pay to park. I don’t go, and I won’t go, unless it’s free. Or unless someone else drives and pays for the parking. I refuse to.

  • 19 Movie in SoNo // Aug 17, 2008 at 7:32 am

    I myself rather drive to the Fairfield Cinema, or the Showcase Cinema in FF, to watch a film. First they have daily matinées, and second no hassle free parking at the front door. To me it’s worth the extra 1/2 gallon or so of gas.

  • 20 turfgrrl // Aug 17, 2008 at 7:50 am

    Movie in SoNo: Bowtie cinemas validates for free parking if you are seeing a movie, which means free parking. The Westport ave Bowtie cinema location is also free parking.

    Anonymous 18: On street parking and parking in municipal lots is metered in Danbury. Also, the Danbury Mall suffers from high turnover and vacancies, like just about every mall in America.

  • 21 anon // Aug 17, 2008 at 9:14 am

    Turff- I believe Bow-tie only validates parking in the Maritime Garage during most hours. I think they only validate the Webster St lot for matinees that end before 6.

  • 22 turfgrrl // Aug 17, 2008 at 9:26 am

    anon 21: From their website:
    • Convenient Free Parking across the street in the Maritime Garage
    • Free Parking in Webster Lot (behind theater) daily until 6PM
    • $2 Validated Parking in Webster Lot from 6-10PM daily
    http://www.criterioncinemas.com/regent-8.html
  • 23 Anonymous // Aug 18, 2008 at 10:35 am

    #20, I currently LIVE in Danbury (born and raised in Norwalk all my life however)and yes there’s meters on Main Street but after 6pm - just like they used to be in Norwalk - the parking spaces are free.

    And so what if “the Danbury mall suffers from high turnover and vacancies”, what has THAT got to do with the fact that the parking lot and garage is totally free?? So is the parking lot next door where the Waldenbooks and Christmas Tree Shops are. And the one down the road where the Trader Joe’s is.

    Every strip mall shopping center in Danbury has free parking. Isn’t that the POINT?? It’s even free to park in front of Meeker’s Hardware on White Street. And alongside the Library on West Street.

    The only meters that exist are on Main Street in front of all the stores owned by the people who refuse to speak English. You know, the stores with all the foreign languags signage on them.

  • 24 turfgrrl // Aug 18, 2008 at 10:46 am

    anonymous 23: Then I suggest you review the paid parking locations in Danbury you are unfamiliar with.

    http://danburyparking.com/locations.php

    Malls have private parking lots, not municipally run. The correlation between free parking and retail success is of course the point about bringing up empty mall stores.

  • 25 Anonymous // Aug 18, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    So who’s disputing that the Danbury parking garage is paid parking? Nobody disputes that. It was people on this thread - you included - who infer that there are meters all over Danbury. And the fact is, there are NOT.

    Anyway, the only people who use the parking garage are the ones who come in for the hockey games at the ice rink. Nobody who LIVES in Danbury uses that garage. We all know where the FREE parking is, and aren’t afraid to walk a block to use it.

  • 26 turfgrrl // Aug 18, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Anonymous 25: There are meters downtown, not just on Main st, and in surface lots in Danbury. Exactly the same types of places as in Norwalk.

    http://www.citycenterdanbury.com/about/parking.htm

  • 27 Nonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 7:22 am

    Having said what I did up above, in actuality, I kind of think if you can’t handle the lousy $5 that it takes to park the entire night in the Webster Street lot (where you can ALWAYS find a spot), maybe you shouldn’t be out drinking, dining and shopping anyway.
    And SONO is always hopping any time I’m down there.

  • 28 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 9:52 am

    how odd

    http://www.yourct.com/new/2008/08/07/parking-in-sono/

  • 29 Lindsay // Aug 22, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Honestly, when youre going out, whether its to a movie, or dinner, or drinking…does an extra $5 REALLY make or break your evening? Its less than the cost of an appetizer or a beer. Seriously. In downtown Stamford, you pay to park. In White Plains, you pay to park. In Greenwich, you pay to park. In New Rochelle, you pay to park. If you cant afford $5 to park your car for a few hours, how can you possibly spend $10+ on a movie or $50+ on dinner? Really, in the big scheme of things is $5 REALLY that big of a deal? If it is, then by all means, go to Danbury, go to Darien, go to New Canaan (oh wait they have meters too!) If you really have a huge problem with the paid parking, there is a HUGE street called Route 1, otherwise known as the Boston Post Road, and guess what! There are restaurants there, there are stores there, there are bars there, there are diners, theres even a Wal Mart and parking is FREE! FREEdom of choice! CHOOSE to go to Pasta Fair! Go Bowling! Go play mini golf! Go see a movie at the theater on Rt 7! Go do all of these things where you WONT have to pay the extra $5 to park. Let all of the “out of towners” pay to park since they apparently dont have a huge problem with it. Last time I parked in the maritime garage for 2 hours it was $6, yes, it bothered me because all we did was meet for coffee. So the next time we decided to meet for coffee, we went somewhere else. It’s that simple.

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