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Hatfields and McCoys At It Again


by turfgrrl


August 15th, 2008 · 283 Comments

In the latest round of the battle over the Norwalk Museum, we have letters to the editor in the Hour. It’s too bad this battle couldn’t really be truly historical, in keeping with all the ways disputes have been resolved.

For example, gauntlet thrown, duel in dawn. There Ralph Bloom (representing the Friends of the Norwalk Museum) and Sue Gunn (representing the historical commission) can pace out twenty feet and fire vintage pistols at each other like Alexander Hamilton and Aron Burr. Vets park would be a nice location, and everyone can sell tickets as part of a massive fund raiser for the Museum. Of course someone might die as a result of this, which would bring to an end all the bickering at we can’t have that, so maybe something else.

Like daggers at dawn. Oh wait, they’d have to throw them at each other, or something. I think death might still result, hrmm.

I know, 5 card stud. They play a single hand for the keys to the museum. Er, wait, the city doesn’t own the museum, so no one could really put it in play as a bet. This is getting kinda hard, most famous historical dispute resolution actions result in wars and deaths. Maybe the Hatfields and McCoys finally settled things. A trip to Google and we discover that they played Family Feud in 1979 and didn’t sign a peace treaty until 2003. Since that feud started roughly in 1873, that means … well it will be … when did this particular feud start again?

The letters:

To the Editor:

The board of the Friends of the Norwalk Museums, Inc., wishes to address David Park on the letter published in The Hour July 30. How can there be any common sense when half of the facts are left out?

Mr. Park refers to a legal “opinion” from a corporation counsel but doesn’t mention how many times the city’s opinion over the museum and the curator has changed during the last three administrations, usually occurring when the curator failed to carry out Historical Commission resolutions and the city’s historic prop- erties suffered. He also states that he won’t “judge why the Friends have chosen not to provide volunteers for the last seven months,” but Mr. Park knew that the curator had made it impossible to schedule volunteers by changing her schedule at the very last minute without notification of when or if she would return to the museum.

In May of 2007, to bring much needed stability after the curator’s six-month paid absence, we re-quested an operating agreement with the city to codify the Friends’ 35 years as the sponsor and operator of the museum and our Common Council in 1973 authorization to operate the museum gift shop. The proposal was passed unanimously by the Common Council’s Land Use and Building Management Committee last October.

This is when hostility toward our volunteers got worse. Volun-teers would arrive at the museum to find the doors locked and no curator. This abuse continued when the curator would lock the handicap and bathroom doors. Some of our volunteers have physical disabilities and have been treated with insult and threats. The Histori-cal Commission changed the locks to the museum and refused to hear our president speak at a Historical Commission meeting. Inappropriately and irresponsibly, the Historical Commission chairman simply removed the Friends’ from the Historical Commission agenda. Our board never closed the shop but found it locked with a closed sign posted on the door.

The public should be aware that the museum will cost the taxpayers dearly if the city runs it. Mr. Park shows his ignorance of the history of the Historical Commission and the museum with his quote about “525 square feet that taxpayers are paying for…” The fact is the rent the city receives from the original Lockwood House Museum, donated and paid for by the Lockwoods, more than compensates the rental at the museum so as not to burden the taxpayers. It was set up this way. We have paid for almost everything in the museum, the kitchen, the security system, lights, fixtures, exhibits, the storage spaces, blinds etc. The city pays for the curator’s salary.

The Friends are the membership of the museum and the benefactors who have given hundreds of thousands of dollars and 35 years of time (at no cost to the city) to staff and fundraise for all the needs of the museum. We have merely asked for the same status as the Lockwood-Mathews Man-sion Museum and the Historical Society at Mill Hill. These groups operate their historic sites as the Friends have, since 1973, operated the Norwalk Museum but without the Historical Commission’s selective and intrusive oversight.

Joseph T. Robidoux, president,

board of directors

Friends of the Norwalk Museums, Inc.

And the next one:

To the Editor:

I would like to address a few facts left out of a recent letter by Mr. Robidioux, president of the Friends of the Norwalk Museums.

The “Friends” have never been locked out of the Norwalk Museum and gift shop. In a letter to the “Friends” dated Jan. 28, 2008, signed by myself, I stated that the Historical Commission recently approved a new Norwalk Museum Management Policy and Code of Ethics and the “Friends” should have a new set of keys to operate the gift shop.

A second letter, dated Feb. 9, 2008, signed by myself, indicated that the museum has changed the locks and the “Friends” should pick up their new set of keys, which they did. The “Friends,” throughout 2008, have had access to the museum and gift shop including a security code, and they continue to hold their monthly meetings there.

Yet, Mr. Robidioux publicly states in his letter that they have been locked out. I publicly question the letter writer’s credibility with this statement and any other of his accusations.

Mr. Robidioux goes on to suggest that the rent received from the Lockwood House is earmarked for the Norwalk Museum rent. That money and most other city revenue goes into a general fund including rent from two apartments that the Historical Commission rents at the old city jail on Smith Street. We don’t directly see that revenue either. The fact remains that Norwalk taxpayers are paying rent to house a closed gift shop, no matter where the money comes from.

The “Friends” continue to claim that they have raised much money for the museum, yet as long as I have been a commissioner, we have not seen a dime. They have had several fund-raisers at the museum without approval and no accountability to the commission.

Mr. Robidoux states that the “Friends” should have the same status as the Lockwood-Mathews-Mansion Museum and the Norwalk Historical Society at Mill Hill, yet these organizations have a board of directors as a governing body while the “Friends” are merely a volunteer group.

The years of controversy surrounding the Norwalk Museum predate the appointment of the current curator. In fact, the museum has been running more efficiently and friendlier without the “Friends” involvement.

David W. Park, chairman

Norwalk Historical Commission

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283 Responses so far “Hatfields and McCoys At It Again”


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  • 1 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Seems to me David Park put the Friends in their place.

    Good job.

    Oh, and by the way - there is no “kitchen” in the Norwalk Museum.

    There is, however, a rolling cart with a hot plate on it, a few mugs, a container of various tea bags and some Cremora. And maybe a box of cookies. Other than the cart and hotplate, the rest is supplied by the museum volunteers and staff, and always has been…..

  • 2 Sick of the Friends // Aug 15, 2008 at 10:54 am

    I suppose for the Friends, even bad publicity is better than no publicity.

  • 3 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 11:49 am

    Someone call Tru TV. There’s a (sur)reality show concept going to waste here.

  • 4 Kurm Udgeon // Aug 15, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Much, way too much, way way too much, way way way too too much, on and on and on and on and on ad naseum too much’ ado about nothing. If one 100th of this effort was spent on fixing pressing matters in this city, our quality of life would be far better.

  • 5 Anonymous // Aug 15, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    The Friends should take all of their belongings out of the museum and leave Soo and Mr Parks to fend for themselves. There wouldn’t be a Norwalk Museum if it wasn’t for Mr Bloom. He worked very hard and is now being thrown to the wolves by incompetent brownnosers. Soo, Mr Parks enjoy playing house. To the Friends sit back and watch the show.

  • 6 nwlknative // Aug 15, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    Anonymous #5 - Your statement “The Friends should take all of their belongings out of the museum . . .” Exactly what belongings are the friends’? I know several people donated items to the “Museum” not the “Friends”. Just because Mr. Bloom was the curator at the time does not mean that he or the Friends own those items. What was donated to the Museum should stay with the Museum. Has anyone actually recorded what was donated and what was sold of the donated items in the Friend’s shop or by Mr. Bloom with his online business? It is about time someone sat down and did an accounting of exactly how much the Friends have contributed monitarily to the museum and where the funds came from. All this bickering between the Friends and the Historical Commission is really getting old and, as Kurm Udgeon said, too, too much.

  • 7 Love abounds priorities are bass ackwards // Aug 15, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Norwalk Museum/93 East Avenue

    All the while taxes are getting so damn high that senior citizens in Norwalk who have lived here for 50+ years a struggling to pay them.

    Time to freeze house taxes for those home owners 65 and up.

  • 8 norwalker // Aug 15, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    #6 - You will be blown away when and if you get an accounting, so be careful what you ask for.

  • 9 Anonymous // Aug 17, 2008 at 11:24 am

    It will take YEARS to inventory the entire contents of that museum. There are over 16,500 photographs alone - and that’s not even getting into the glass-plate negatives and cartes-des-visites that number in the thousands by themselves. Then there are the books - reference books, business account books, genealogies, cemetery listings, family biographies, books written by Norwalk authors - the newspapers, the 1000’s of documents, the china, the maps, the silver, the clocks, the saltglazed pottery, the redware pottery, the glassware, the paintings, the furniture, the postcards, the scrapbooks, the hats, the toys, the miscellaneous ephemera - all which have to be accounted for, one single piece at a time. You don’t just count all the cups, all the saucers, all the plates, whatever. There’s something like 10 to 12 steps that need to be recorded for *each* item at a time - what it is, where it was made, who donated it, what it’s made of, the style, the manufacturer, etc. And then multiply that by thousands and thousands and thousands of items…..

  • 10 rukidding... // Aug 17, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    If the curator started the inventory when she was first directed to do so by Diane Rochelle and the members of the Historic Commission it would be complete by now. There is a card catalog kept by Mr. Bloom and all that was asked of the Curator was to take that information and put it into the computer. At that time she had two volunteers that were very adept at computers….but, Ms. Gunn would rather fight with the Commission (at that time)than do what she was directed to do. Interesting that when she disagreed with what the Commission instructed her to do she fought very hard NOT to complete the tasks. Now that the Commission has completely been changed and is requesting her to do things that she agrees with, she is willing to follow their instructions…

  • 11 Sick of the BS // Aug 17, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    Merely putting the card catalog into the computer does not consist of an “inventory”. After the card catalog is entered into the computer, then somebody has to go and match up the cards in the catalog with the items that go with the cards.

    And therein lies the always-overlooked part of the problem! When this matchup was begun, lo and behold - there were cards with NO matching items!! There were items with NO matching cards!! And all of that non-matching stuff PRE-dates the current Curator’s tenure.

    Of course there’s always the question of WHY the current curator should be held to a “higher” standard than the former curator, who for TWENTY FIVE YEARS **NEVER** took an inventory at all.

    How come THAT question never gets answered?

  • 12 Anonymous // Aug 17, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Read the minutes. Soo never complained about the accuracy of the card catalog, she complained about the work doing it.as has been mentioned before if she had started when directed it would be done now.

  • 13 Anonymous // Aug 18, 2008 at 10:16 am

    She never complained about the accuracy of the card catalog because until Rochelle demanded the inventory it was always assumed that every card had an object in the collections, and that everything recieved prior to Susan Gunn’s hire had been accessed properly and had a card to match it.

    Unfortunately that has proven to be the exception, rather than the rule.

    Still doesn’t answer the question of why the former curator never was required to show an inventory of the collections for 25 years - but the new Curator was…..

    It’s practically impossible to create an inventory without having at least some kind of bottom line accounting to work from. There’s a record of things that have been accessioned since Susan Gunn took over, but who knows where half the stuff has gone from the previous 25 years before her hire?

    Without a baseline inventory when the museum was moved from the Lockwood House to its present location, things could have been trickling into that junk shop for years and nobody would have been the wiser.

    Makes one wonder if this is the REAL reason that Bloom insists on controlling the museum even after his retirement (now in it’s 10th year?). And why the Friends are backing him so strongly. After all, they were just as responsible for what took place during those 25 years as he was.

    Really makes one wonder……

  • 14 Vagabond // Aug 18, 2008 at 10:28 am

    I believe it was not Diane Rochelle who requested the inventory but Mayor Esposito in the job description when Ms. Gunn was hired. Rochelle was simply asking Ms. Gunn to do the job she was hired for.

    I saw the Museuem and the archives pre-Gunn and things were organized and orderly. Under Gunn, there was stuff everywhere, collection pieces were removed and taken off premises (a museum daguerretype was diplayed at an off-site party) and the archive material was piled on a table in the midle of the room without any regard to order or possible damage.

    Those observations led to the conclusion that, while Ms. Gunn may be personable and talk a good game, she lacks the basic organizational and administrative skills to manage a collection.

  • 15 Anonymous // Aug 18, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    I believe that Esposito wanted one done, but there was no stipulation that it had to be done AT any particular time or within a particular time frame.

    It was, however, Rochelle, who *demanded* that the total museum inventory “be completed” in a 2-month period, not even a remotely possible estimate at best. 2 *years* is more like it, and only then if there are enough people to do the work involved.

    And since the City won’t divert money to hire assistants as it did back in Bloom’s day, and won’t apply for grants to allow the curator to hire assistants, and the Friends have scared off all the volunteers, it looks as though that inventory is still not going to be completed until some time far into the future.

    Since you seem to be so concerned about who is doing what, I’m waiting with bated breath to find you volunteering at the Museum to help with it. The door’s open, when are you walking in?

    I so love people who are all talk and no action.

  • 16 Been there, done that // Aug 18, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    And the REASON Esposito wanted one done is precisely because Bloom & Co. had NEVER DONE ONE. And the Mayor’s office was getting sick of fielding phone calls from people wondering what happened to the items they donated to the museum’s collections that wound up being sold in the Friends’ junk shop.

  • 17 norwalker // Aug 20, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    You are all wrong about the inventory. The inventory was done under Bloom and was all contained on cards - it was a CARD INVENTORY - because there was NO COMPUTER at the Norwalk Museum. Nothing wrong about that and done according to the Dewey Decimal system. There were no computers then and the city would not buy one. The inventory was asked for by the then corp counsel, an order which was completely ingored by Gunn since 2001. Documentation available. The HC requested on several occasions that Gunn start the inventory on computers. Ignored. Any incoming new curator would have done that as part of a new job and to cover onesself. So any complaints years later about missing anything really has no relevance when you have been there for 5-6 years and have not even started a simple inventory. Did not have to reinvent the wheel. Just needed to transfer the card inventory to the computer. That’s all that was needed as well as to continue the inventory of any new items accepted. Refused - until mayor Knopp finally reiterated the job description which says that the curator takes direction from the Chairman of the HC. (also remember that the Chairman can only act by consent of the HC - something which is no longer happening with the present HC - being chairman of the HC does not give you dictator’s rights) For you who insist that Bloom never did an inventory are so far from the truth that anything you say after simply cannot be believed. Anyone who ever came into the museum were immediately serviced because information was at hand. Besides, your information is coming from Gunn, who has been out to personally erase Ralph’s
    name from the Norwalk Museum history and who’s disdain for him has rotted her inside.

  • 18 RE #8 // Aug 20, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    That’s okay, because Ralph’s disdain for everyone other than himself has rotted his *brain*.

  • 19 norwalker // Aug 21, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Why don’t you respond to the more important part of the comment - because it’s all true?.

  • 20 Sick of the BS // Aug 21, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    #19, apparently you didn’t read MY post, which gives you the answer to your question.

    It’s post #11, and make sure you **READ** the first two paragraphs, s-l-o-w-l-y.

  • 21 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 12:00 am

    If Stew Leonard’s took as long as Gunn to do an inventory, he would certainly have been out of business about 8 years ago. #11-Dave, Peter or Sharon, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  • 22 Sick of the BS // Aug 22, 2008 at 10:03 am

    #21, it’s you that doesn’t know squat.

    Please explain, since you know so much, how merely entering a card catalog into a computer is an “inventory” if you don’t match each card with the item it represents?

    Or are you truly so stupid that you think simply entering the card catalog is all you have to do?

    Please explain how NOT matching each card with its item does ANYTHING of value as an inventory. I’m sure we’re all dying to hear your enlightening commentary.

    How do you explain the occasional card that was found to have the words “Sold At Auction” handwritten on them in ink???

    (Not “Bought at Auction” - which would mean something entirely different.)

    Your explanations will be most interesting.

    Goodness, is that your feet I hear backpedaling away?

  • 23 Snarky pro-Gunn comments // Aug 22, 2008 at 10:28 am

    I assume that the “sold at auction” items were part of a normal museum procedure of “deascessioning”. It’s done all the time at the country’s most reputable museums. So the fact that some things were sold really means nothing. Also, that some donated items wind up in the gift shop is also irrelevant. The fact that Ms. Gunn and her minions could not match cards to items speaks more to the chaos she has created than anything else. The supporters are simply adding more evidence for her general lack of results…in a particularly small-minded, snarky way. But I guess that’s what these people are like….not a lot of intellect and a lot of attitude.

  • 24 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 11:04 am

    In order to de-accession anything from the museum, permission must be obtained from the Common Council, since every item donated to the museum is owned by the City.

    It isn’t just assumed that “Oh, we don’t want this any longer so we’ll sell it and get rid of it.”

    Except that maybe it was…. since a Norwalk redware plate showed up at an auction a few years ago with a NM accession number clearly visible on the back of it. The plate was shown at a local lecture given by an author and authority on Norwalk pottery.

  • 25 Sick of the BS // Aug 22, 2008 at 11:05 am

    “Snarky pro-Gunn comments”

    How droll.

    Of course it’s perfectly okay to be snarky AGAINST Gunn, as evidenced by 75% of the anti-Gunn commentary on this blog.

    So typical an attitude from this type of person. It’s fine when done by them, but when receiving the same treatment they go crying for mama.

  • 26 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 11:59 am

    Soo, why don’t you just post under your real name? At least people wouldn’t believe you’re hiding behind the locked doors of the “Museum.”

  • 27 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    Maybe when the rest of you gutless wonder “anonymous” posters use YOUR real names, the rest of us will follow suit.

    Sorry, Teri, but your lousy malicious attitude gives you away EVERY time.

    Why don’t you go dye your hair and leave the museum to the people who know how to handle it — AND who have the mandate from the City to be running it. Ralph voluntarily RETIRED, his mandate expired the day he signed his retirement letter to the City.

  • 28 Snarky pro-Gunn comments // Aug 22, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    Anon 24, it doesn’t make sense that the Council would vote on what to de-ascession. By extension of that logic, they would then also have to vote on acquisitions. Isn’t it the HC that votes on the collection items taken in or out?

  • 29 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    why isn’t soo working today?

  • 30 Hey # 27 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    You start, OK?

  • 31 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    Let’s do it Letterman style!

    Top Ten Reasons Why Soo Gunn Isn’t in the Office Today:

    10. It just got way too snarky and her computer had a meltdown…

    next?

  • 32 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    i stopped by and the doors were locked.

  • 33 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    #28, the Council doesn’t have to vote on what the Museum accepts, since it doesn’t (as the representative of the City of Norwalk) *OWN* it yet.

    The Council only has to approve an item it (the City) already owns being de-accessioned and why.

    The Museum has accepted donations as they come in, and the Curator gives a monthly report on the Museum to the HC in which each month’s new donations are stated. The report is then accepted by the HC and read into the minutes, and as such, donations are accepted by the HC at the moment the minutes are approved by vote.

    If an item is offered to the Museum for a fee, such as a piece of pottery or whatever, permission must be obtained for this purchase, which must be granted by the HC, again acting on behalf of the City.

  • 34 What are the chances? // Aug 22, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Of getting paid for a DVD made from a 50 ft roll of 8mm film of the 55 flood film never seen before, such as looking from inside the store at the water rushing beneath the caved in floor of Del Knaps Sporting goods store. Plus lots of other film of the area the day after.

  • 35 Anonymous #5 // Aug 22, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    If you donated the film with no signed agreement that you would be paid for it, why do you think you would be paid for it?

    If you have a signed agreement stating that you would be paid, then bring it to the next HC meeting and present your claim.

    Gee, you’re an adult, why do I have to tell you what you should be doing? Maybe you should pay ME for my advice.

  • 36 Terri Tylo // Aug 22, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    #27 I don’t care who you are but want you to know that it wasn’t me. I use my real name, and stick to the facts not the spin and vitriol. Was the personal attack against my hair because you have no facts? Ridiculous!

  • 37 Film at 8 // Aug 22, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    I have no claim, as I have not presented the film, and most likely will not until the Historical Commission and the museum are straightened out. I might just put it up on U Tube, or offer it for sale on E Bay. At the time I found this old film, I would have gladly donated it to the City of Norwalk, but now I am not so sure that it would even be appreciated or taken care of.

  • 38 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Why not donate it to the Historical Society, since they were the ones who did the Flood of 55 exhibit? I’m sure they would appreciate it.

  • 39 Anonymous // Aug 22, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    # 9… Ralph took her to lunch!

  • 40 Anonymous // Aug 23, 2008 at 12:00 am

    she was seeing a divorce attorney due to ralph proposing?

  • 41 Anonymous // Aug 23, 2008 at 12:02 am

    she took pottery shards home to super glue the ‘history’ and was stuck to her counter???

  • 42 Anonymous // Aug 23, 2008 at 1:00 am

    i saw her at the brewery this afternoon doing shots.

  • 43 anon again (naturally) // Aug 23, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Wasn’t there an opening last night at the Museum? How did that go?

  • 44 turfgrrl // Aug 23, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    C’mon guys. There’s plenty of issues for you to post about without slipping into personal attacks. I’ve removed one comment that bordered on that. Please respect the rules.

    The Management.

  • 45 nwlknative // Aug 23, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    I don’t think most people who donate items to the museum expect that they will be sold. Most people think they are contributing to the preservation of some of Norwalk’s history. If they knew the item (s) was going to be sold, the person could sell it themselves or perhaps give it to another member of the family. I don’t understand how the museum can turn around and sell property donated by another person without the giver being notified and given the option of taking it back.

  • 46 Anonymous // Aug 23, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    #6 of the countdown… the museum has turned into Raggedy World and she’s just not ready to leave yet.

  • 47 was there // Aug 23, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    #24 - For 8 years you have try to spread around that by accusing Mr. Bloom of stealing. That redqware piece you so famously insist was sold at an auction was a piece that Mr. bloom purchased himself at a New York auction believing it to be a Norwalk piece. It turned out not be produced in Norwalk and the Norwalk Museum collects Norwalk products, so he turned around and put it into the shop. Do you think that every piece of redware was made in Norwalk like Ms Gunn? He paid for it himself, donated it to the museum, and then took it back and did what he darn well wanted with it. End of story except that you have never tried to find out the truth. You have tried to make your evil fit your nefarious imagination.

  • 48 Anonymous // Aug 23, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    #48 - Uh, it helps to post the **facts** before you write so that you don’t come across like the idiot you are.

    The redware plate HAD A NORWALK MUSEUM ACCESSION NUMBER ON IT. It doesn’t get one without being ACCESSED, which means ENTERED AS PART OF THE COLLECTIONS. In order to sell it, it has to be DE=ACCESSIONED WITH PERMISSION FROM THE COMMON COUNCIL. And you and I BOTH know that such a de-accessioning did not happen.

    And it might interest you to know that the piece in question was purchased by a local author and authority on Norwalk Redware who bought the piece IN ANOTHER STATE - NOT in the NM junk shop.

    Was that loud enough for you??

    No, every piece of redware was not made in Norwalk. But every piece of NORWALK redware was made in Norwalk. Doesn’t take a 3rd grade education to figure that one out.

    #46, when items are donated to the Norwalk Museum these days (and since Curator Gunn has been running the museum) they are accepted and put into the collections, as long as they were made in Norwalk or have relevance to a piece of Norwalk’s history.

    In the past, when Mr. Bloom ran the NM, anything he decided “didn’t fit”, i.e., didn’t like or think was “worthy”, EVEN IF the item was made in Norwalk, immediately went into the junk shop and was SOLD.

    I have always felt badly for the people who expected their treasured heirlooms to become a part of the collections and who’ve come back to view them only to discover that the items were sold in the junk shop. I wish I was a fly on the wall when the previous curator attempted to explain THAT one.

  • 49 Anonymous // Aug 24, 2008 at 8:44 am

    #47 - How can he “donate” something to the museum and then “take” it back? Once it’s “donated” to the museum, doesn’t the museum “own” it?

  • 50 Been there too and know more than you, and I don't lie // Aug 24, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Apparently when people brought things to the museum under the former curator, they expected that these items would be accepted into the collections. After the donors left the building with the impression that their beloved item was going to become a part of the museum’s vast collections, however, if the former curator judged the items “unworthy” or irrelevant (regardless of whether they actually WERE), they were placed in the junk shop instead, a price tag was slapped onto them, and they were sold.

    Only if an item is accessioned does it belong to the City. And the City (through the Common Council) is required to give permission to de-accession an item from the Museum’s collections in order for that item to be sold or given away. In fact, the City must give permission even if the museum is asked for the loan of a piece of the collections for another museum’s exhibit. Neither curator has the ability to loan items out on their own.

    Not every donated item that passed through the doors of the NM back then was accepted as a piece destined for the collections. It’s unfortunate, but a LOT of items made their way into the junk shop only to disappear.

    Speaking of that junk shop, I’ve always wondered why NO accounting of exactly how much money was made from it or what was done with that money has EVER been required by either the City or the Historical Commission. It might be a real eye-opener to see exactly how much was raised over the years, and where it went.

    Seems to me that that’s a question that should be asked in the very near future.

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