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Brown Still Doesn’t Get It


by turfgrrl


July 29th, 2008 · 31 Comments

So now Amanda Brown is hiding behind the idea that the letter she waved at the Council hearing last Tuesday is addressed to the Mayor. She convieniently forgets that the date of the letter is May of 2008, long after the bid process had closed and thus evidence that CRRA was attempting to circumvent the bidding process. Contrary to her assertions, its still a violation of the bidding process to consider bids that come in after the sealed bid process.

Note that she is not answering how she got the bid letter. The rules of a sealed bidding process are pretty clear. Brown also said, on the record, that she obtained the letter direct from CRRA via a fax. Looks like someone will have to dig out the tapes of the Council meeting.

Here’s her letter to the editor:

Councilwoman: I had no communications with CRRA representative

To the Editor:

For the record, I would like to correct some of the statements made in an article on July 24 entitled “Council approves $13M Trash Contract.”

The reporter has quoted the mayor and his mischaracterizations about my actions, so now I must set the record straight. There has been no “communication between Brown and a CRRA representative.” The correspondence that I referenced at the July 22, 2008, Common Council meeting was a copy of a renewal letter from CRRA to Mayor Moccia dated May 15, 2008, with supporting in-formation about the cost per ton that the city would be charged should it choose to continue its current contract with CRRA.

The purpose for sharing the contents of this letter that was previously undisclosed by Mayor Moccia is that the pricing was significantly lower than what Mr. Alvord misrepresented at one of the public hearings.

This information was important to discuss among the Common Council members, and it illuminated the fact that pertinent information was withheld from us and the public. Our ability to render sound and prudent decisions was hindered by the lack of disclosure within this administration. The mayor, through Mr. Alvord has misled the council regarding the viable terms and/or opportunities available to the city should a renewal contract with CRRA been an option to resolving the MSW matter. However, we shall never know since any possible investigation was ended by the mayor when he broke a tie vote which would have sent the matter back to committee for further review.

I find it quite hypocritical for the mayor to call me “irresponsible” when he and Mr. Alvord have done everything possible to thwart the fact-finding process of the council members who wish to be diligent and knowledgeable about issues before they vote on them and affect the lives of the thousands of people for years to come. The actions that he claims are irresponsible clearly demonstrate what responsible leadership is. Council members are trying to ensure that Norwalk stays on the move and heads in the right direction.

Reviewing, researching and discussing information is the re-sponsibility of the council. We have no right to unilaterally represent the city of Norwalk in negotiations of contracts, and I have never done so. This fact will be displayed before all once the documents requested by Mr. Scialabba are produced in accordance with his FOI Request.

The mayor should be making sure that his staff does a better job providing information in a timely manner to council members and the public. More importantly, he should be implementing plans to fix the Meadow Street area, as he promised. It would behoove him to welcome the assistance of the Common Council members who are willing, able and competent enough to help him.

Amanda M. Brown

Norwalk

Amanda M. Brown is an at-large member of the Common Council.

source: The Hour, Councilwoman: I had no communications with CRRA representative

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31 Responses so far “Brown Still Doesn’t Get It”



  • 1 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 7:52 am

    I hope the city (the taxpayers) has enough money to spend for her legal fees from the ethics commission hearing. I know I’d much rather pay for legal fees resulting from political games than have the potholes fixed on my street, or the flooding fixed, or hire some more police officers, or another zoning officer, or actually mow the grass at our schools more than twice a year, or maintain the city’s historic buildings, or improve Ryan Park….
    Thanks a lot, Art. Money well spent.

  • 2 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 7:58 am

    Scumbag dems. Throwing crap at others when they are doing wrong ! What nerve. She is going to go to jail for what she did. Ever speak with Brown ? If you have you know she didn’t write that letter. Wonder who wrote it for her ? Maybe her attorney. Who just moved into a new condo ? Maybe should explain that. In her day job she has no responsibility, and here she is supposed to be entrusted with our hard earned tax bucks. What a joke. She should resign from the council.

  • 3 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:00 am

    Sorry to offend you, Art.

  • 4 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:01 am

    I think Amanda Brown needs a schoolhouse rock lesson on how a bill becomes a law. Turfie please post it since these council could use the lesson since they dont know how it works.

  • 5 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:19 am

    For whatever the Dems thought they were going to pin on Alvord, this backfired. He’s now smelling like a rose because he upheld the bidding process. Ms. Brown needs to resign to help avoid criminal and ethics charges, and a thorough investigation into her personal finances and dealings. She might also want to do this to keep her day job at Time Warner.

    Then again, this may be payback by her fellow dems:

    http://www.yourct.com/new/2007/12/14/norwalk-amanda-brown-rips-laurel-lindstrom/

  • 6 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:38 am

    Wonder if Time Warner wants an employee who is alleged to be involved in some smelly dealings. Maybe someone should call them or write a letter to find out. To number 1, an ethics hearing is on the horizon for a certain person. I really dont want my elected officials involved in the garbage bidding process when they shouldnt be. It smells kinda strange. Not to say kinda criminal. Also it seems criminal investigations will be on the way and maybe it involved a City worker who is also in hartford. The taxpayers wont be payin for the criminal attorney for these person.

  • 7 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Whoa, the Rethugs really got their attack dogs out on this one, judging by the hateposts here. I would be surprised if Amanda is guilty of anything besides naiveity and misguided ambition. I also wonder if she’s been boned by the Dems and thrown under the bus on this one.

  • 8 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:50 am

    School House Rock!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

  • 9 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:18 am

    Sorry, meant to put a clickable link
    School House Rock
    How a bill becomes a law

  • 10 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:37 am

    It won’t happen #6, too many others have too much to lose if there is full investigation into the garbage contracts…ba da bing, ba da bing…

  • 11 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:52 am

    yep Bondi and Alvord were the team players for the Moccia team they probably have the most to lose so yes Brown is safe.Close call it looks for most who have probably involve in back room deals now we can see how the plans were made for what we have now.Cresent st will of course become a circus now that Moccia called in the clowns and made sure city carting has a ring to play in.Never ends does it?

  • 12 In bad taste #10 // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:53 am

    One more time someone has to refer to a quote from a mafia movie meaning that its the Italians who are the corrupt ones. Look around you Mr/Ms negative, Norwalk has a very large community of honest, hard working Italians and to constantly refer to them as corrupt etc is just dispicable. What a shame people just can’t stick to the issues and demand that council people do their jobs and do them properly. This goes to both sides. There are guidlines that need to be adhered to and they should understand this. Stop the negative postings. Start focusing on what this is all about! Ms Brown’s actions were politically motivated and unethical and if she cannot adhere to policy then she should not be on the council. We did not elect this body to off willy nilly on their own and make decisions that do nothing more than put disturbing headlines in our newspapers. Get with the business of running the city the right way and follow protocol. Its been said here many times before, STOP THE GRANDSTANDING! This goes for everyone and is not directed at any individual party or person, but to the whole council.

  • 13 anon // Jul 29, 2008 at 11:10 am

    You’re not kidding it’s bad taste. It’s outrageously bad taste! What’s even worse is that it isn’t permissible to level the playing field! Either we omit ethnic attacks completely or call open season on all ethnic groups. Obviously, it isn’t fair to view some ethnic groups as off limits where some as quite okay to attack. This political use of Italian and Greek stereotyping has got to go, people! Stick to the issues and bring it up a notch!

  • 14 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 11:58 am

    #1 why hire police officers we don’t need any,if we did the council would get a request by Rillings and I’m sure not one council member would say no.Let it go to court let it play out lets see how prepared the city was right before they wanted to spend all of our money and take a million dollar loss.Norwalk taxpayers for the most part have lost trust over this and other issues by both sides.So much for a transparent gov.

  • 15 Former Zoner // Jul 29, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    I have to agree with at least the first part of #7s posting. Dedicated elected or appointed members of city agencies have in the past crossed over a line similar to the one Amanda may have crossed, and they were taken to task by the corporation counsel and they ultimately recused themselves from a vote. Quietly, no fanfare by a political party. Just a judgment that they were likely innocent of malice and wouldn’t do it again.

  • 16 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Former Zoner, name one that fit’s your definition. You’re not even thinking about drawing a comparison to Kydes, right?

  • 17 defamation // Jul 29, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    And let’s stop the category bashing as well. Historic preservationists are people — with jobs, and lives, and families and feelings. Just like the Italians and the Greeks. You are showing your prejudice when you blame historic preservationist for “stopping development” and “house hugging” and “blocking property rights”. It’s not fair and I’m tired of the defamation that I’ve seen on this blog about historic preservationists. We’re as good as the Italians and the Greeks. In fact, some of our best friends are Italians and Greeks. We find your cutlure rich and fascinating. I think you should do more to learn about ours…

  • 18 Be Fair // Jul 29, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Everyone is overreacting. Please stop. Scialabba is just asking for information. Sort of what the Hour should be doing. (Right: Mr. I Love FOIA Reilly? ) So far no one knows that Brown did anything wrong or even that her motive was bad. Let the corporation counsel get the information and turn it over to Scialabba who we hope will make it public. Maybe the Hour should join the request so they ensure they get the records too?

    Brown’s atempt to throw mud on the mayor makes little sense. It was stated the night of the vote that CRRA was trying to contract everyone to get an after the fact bid into the process. Alvord even said he was ignoring their contacts and presumably the mayor was too. Only Amanda seems to have been caught up in it but as someone said that could easily be from her lack of experience and naivety. But it remains to be asked how come none of the Dems were watching out for her?

    Turf is right on the question of questions. If Amanda and her colleagues had so many questions how come they never asked Krummel? How come they never made public demands for the information at three prior public hearings or in the committee? They could have gone to the Hour weeks earlier with a demand for information if it was so important. Why is it always last minute and delay delay? Could it be that Gail Wall really wanted a big mess so she could try to use it against Moccia? Wall and Wells are quite the team. D and D!

  • 19 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Why should I? There’s no money to be made in historic “preservation”. All it does is create problems for hard-working stereotypes who come to this country, pay their dues, and expect to have the local government look the other way when they expect favors to be repaid.

  • 20 Are You For Real? // Jul 29, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    LOL! Be Fair 18, I have to hand it to you! You begin with “Everyone is overreacting. Please stop. Scialabba is just asking for information.” and you end your comment with “Could it be that Gail Wall really wanted a big mess so she could try to use it against Moccia? Wall and Wells are quite the team. D and D!”

    So what is it you REALLY want us to think?

  • 21 Be Fair // Jul 29, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Sorry your right. I meant let’s be patient and fair to Amanda. She’s on the council and at least seems to be trying to do the right thing, even if misguided. As to D and D, well does anyone really care about them? :) They’r toxic!

  • 22 anon // Jul 29, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Can anyone tell me which council pers bought a new condo recently ? This paper trail might be important to seeing who is getting what.

  • 23 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    D and D? Enlighten us, please… And the attempts to link this situation to the purchase of a new condo are pathetic. Get lost.

  • 24 Anonymous // Jul 29, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    #22-that question can be answered by going to the town clerks office and asking for a copy of the recent real estate purchases. They can’t say no because they are all open to the publivc and are posted in the local newspapers. But, keep in mind, council people have fulltime jobs and bank accounts just like everyone else so it doesn’t necessarily mean some backhanded has occured. Who are you alluding to?

    #23- I believe the D and D was in reference to Gail and Galen and was from the way I took it a nicer way of saying dumb and dumber but I could be wrong.

  • 25 Anon 2 // Jul 29, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Thought D & D meant Democrat and Democrat, but you may be right now that I read the original post. Things get nasty.

  • 26 Anon2 // Jul 29, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    I thought D and D was Democrat and Democrat, but looking at original post you may be right. Getting nasty

  • 27 Anon // Jul 29, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Is Ms. Brown on the DPW committee? If she is, did she share the letter with the rest of the committee or the chairman before last week’s meeting? If she is on the committee, it seems sort of unfair if she didn’t share this information with them. If that is actually what happened.

  • 28 Old Timer // Jul 29, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Hal Alvord told the council and the public, several times, that CRRA and Enviro Tech (present contractors) bid, but were way out of line. He also said they had been pestering him for “discussions”, after the bidding was over, in what he described as a sleazy effort to subvert the bidding process. I recall him being called on the use of the term sleazy by Mr McQuaid, when I thought it was the correct word to use. A lawyer representing them spoke at every opportunity, whining about not being able to get a meeting. CRRA is the villain here, their letter to the mayor was properly ignored, and it will be interesting to discover what they told Ms Brown. Don’t be surprized to discover they were not entirely honest with her and told her there was a conspiracy at City Hall against them. Why is it we get so holier-than-thou about procedural rules when somebody in the other party steps out of bounds, but are so relaxed when it is somebody in our party ? She made a mistake presenting the letter the way she did, she knows it now, no harm, no foul. let us move on, like grown-ups.

  • 29 Payola lives in Norwalk // Jul 29, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    How about good ole payola. Maybe some elected’s were taking bribes for bid rigging. Greed has been around along time in politics. The reason is right under our noses. Happens all the time. Maybe some low paid elected official took a payoff and now must face the music.

  • 30 Bruce Morris is Fleecing Us // Jul 29, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    DOes brucie have a role in this ?

  • 31 anon // Jul 30, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Anyone see Amanda Brown’s response ? Did she tell Time Warner she was leaving work early to deal with her problems at her second job ? Can you feel the heat Ms. Brown ?

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