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Guest View: Blog Etiquette


by turfgrrl


July 26th, 2008 · 26 Comments

Thanks to Vet Park Junkie, I have a guest editorial to post today. That’s a good thing since I am in Boston working on my other-other day job.

By Vet Park Junkie

Below are my wishes for posting behavior on yourct.com.  Sometimes, I get frustrated seeing stuff that I felt was addressed long ago.  The list is from decades of posting, comments on this blog, and Turfgrrl’s stated preferences.

  1. Threads have topics.  Read the intro posted by Turfgrrl.  Believe it or not, it takes work and thought to start a thread.  It’s now your turn to use your brain.
  2. Be respectful of others, some use considerable energy to create their posts.
  3. Keep your post related to the topic.  Before you tap “Submit Comment,” think.  Off-topic posts are disruptive and disrespectful to those who are participating.
  4. Read all of the posts in a thread before posting anything.
  5. Posts commenting on spelling or grammar are trite.  Also, don’t assume a poster’s first language is English.
  6. I don’t care that you know how to swear.
  7. Jumping from thread to thread and dumping your load in each is diarrhea.
  8. Don’t join fights.  Ignore disruptive posts.  A response encourages the behavior and will kill the thread.  Note: some people incite emotions for just this reason.
  9. If you’ve just written an emotional response.  Stop.  Re-read the post that sparked your comment.  Perhaps you misread it.  If not, stop and re-write anyway.  Imagine, you could be humorous or clever or …
  10. Rants say more about the person writing the post than anything that he or she is trying to communicate.
  11. If you must attack, use poetry.  Don’t expect a response, though.
  12. Slander is bad.  It’s called Libel in a blog.  Posting private information on someone is bad.  Remember that we’re taught to act civilized for a reason.
  13. Avoid “Me, too!” posts.
  14. Do not include a long article in a post.  Include a link instead.  Also, when someone uses a link, don’t do the favor and post the article under the assumption that no one has read it.  We know how to follow links.
  15. ALL CAPS indicates shouting.
  16. Use references and give credit for quotes.  Don’t plagiarize.
  17. Don’t expect blogging to resolve your personal issues.
  18. Keep your post related to the thread topic.  Wait for an “Open Thread” for your unrelated posts.
  19. Keep your post related to the thread topic.  Ask Turfgrrl to open a new thread if you think that one is needed.
  20. Keep your post related to the thread topic.  If you’re posting on the same issue in thread after thread after thread, you gain more enemies than converts.  If you’re posting on the same issue in thread after thread after thread, get help.  If you’re posting on the same issue in thread after thread after thread, as TG said “Start your own blog.”

Didactic?  Yup.  Do I expect behavior to change?  No, not really.  Perhaps, just perhaps, someone will exercise a bit of self-editing.

Tags: Current affairs

26 Responses so far “Guest View: Blog Etiquette”



  • 1 RIsa // Jul 26, 2008 at 9:12 am

    Thank you TG or Vet Park Junkie. I hope others will think before acting or should I say blogging.

    And, these very important points are relevant to emails as well.

    Let’s see how this one plays out.

  • 2 Retired from DRG I // Jul 26, 2008 at 9:32 am

    Excellent suggestions.
    We can all use the reminders. I suspect the worst offenders are not going to use their energy to read and take heed. Time will tell.
    I will share with others who blog. it is certainly useful to many.

    Thank you for your time and effort.

  • 3 MGeake // Jul 26, 2008 at 10:01 am

    Suggestion 18 says ‘[w]ait for an “Open Thread”‘. You don’t need to wait; there are dozens of open threads out here already. Just add to one of those.

  • 4 Joanne // Jul 26, 2008 at 10:04 am

    Excellent idea Vet Park Junkie- There are many issues we all like to comment on and Turf gave us this blog to do so. Ever watch heather Kovar on “What’s Bugging You”? Each item has a headline and each headline has a specific topic. I agree, if something is bugging you, contact Turf and let her set up a section for that particular subject.
    While we all have opinions,(there’s an old saying about that) we should also respect the opinions of others.

    While I usually like to post with my own name, I too am guilty, sometimes I am too busy to add my name to a topic and add to the annonymous posts that no one can follow because it looks like we’re all having a private conversation with ourselves. If you don’t want to use your own name, pick something unique or pick two and stick to it. This way we all know from where the posts are coming. Stay away from abusive behavior and stick to a topic.

    Believe me, kids are reading this blog and we are not setting a good example. How do I know this? Because kids at our meetings at NNHTkids.org have said “well I read it on yourct” and some of the comments from these kids are eye openers.

    Keep your derogatory thoughts to yourself and there won’t be all this bickering and name calling. Freedom of speech goes just so far when you hurt the reputation of someone. I know because comments on here were made about me while I was running for Town Clerk and they truly do hurt. Thankfully none of us live in glass houses.

    Turf has given all of us a great avenue for our frustrations and we should really respect her wishes. She can always shut this down and then what? Discuss the issues, give your feedback and move on.

    We all know a major concern is crime, the misguidance of the BOE on some items, the quality of life issues, the Guardian Angels and a number of other topics that are favorites of some so why not e-mail Turf and ask her to add a forum on these subjects away from the great articles she posts here? If you see an article you think would be a great topic of discussion, send the link to turf and then comment if you will on what is posted and then go to a specific forum and rant away.

    Just keep it respectful and clean and remember, kids are reading this blog.

  • 5 Another Anonymous // Jul 26, 2008 at 10:32 am

    Well said Vet Park Junkie and very timely Turfgrrl. Thanks for the reminders.

  • 6 turfgrrl // Jul 26, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Thanks to all who participate here and try to make the blog a better place to discuss issues.
    If you don’t feel comfortable emailing suggestions, you can always post a comment requesting a new topic or suggestion. If you label them turfgrrl, they’ll be easier to find.
    Thank you Vet Park Junkie for the post this morning.
  • 7 Aunt Bertha // Jul 26, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    Thanks Vet park junkie for the post, Turfgrrl for the blog and Joanne for being upfront and honest! You all rock!

  • 8 Robert F // Jul 26, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    VPJ:

    Isn’t it nice that you have the opportunity to exercise your right to freedom of speech here?

    You wouldn’t want someone to take that away from you based on your ability to communicate effectively, or for your opinion, would you?

    Your glaring weakness started when you stated:

    “Sometimes, I get frustrated.”

    Perhaps you should consider establishing a Cailfornia address. I hear they have this great medicinal herb that will relieve your frustration.

    Basically, I liked the idea of your post, which is why I chose to respond.

    While you chose to be redundant for suggestions 18-20, there’s a key one you left out, which I will share with you in a moment.

  • 9 Robert F // Jul 26, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    Retired DRG:

    I would question who you are referring to as offenders, people who repeatedly have broken Vet Park Junkies rules? Your rules?

    Pardon my jab there, I am just writing a response to what I just read here.

  • 10 Robert F // Jul 26, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    MGeake:

    It looks like you’re one of those rare people who can find a simple solution.

    Great post

  • 11 Robert F // Jul 26, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Joanne:

    You went to some length to express your thoughts on the subject and it was well worth my reading.

    You shared your own personal experience and brought up the issue of a no sign-in policy here on yourct, which I think is its flaw. The only reason I call that a flaw, is that we don’t know whether to read or ignore the many “anonymous” entries. There are some cryptic, off subject responses that are worth the read if you choose to see whatever other people think after reading some of this particular blog.

    Using a sign-on process could still remain anonymous for those who wish to be, they just have to create a sign on with a unique email address. In the process, we learn to ignore people who break “our own 20 rules,” and if someone decides to abuse the blog with multiple sign-ons, that person can be identified by their style, and their IP address can be blocked if they persist.

    Great Post Jo

    JMHO

  • 12 Joanne // Jul 26, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    I only preach to others when its something I think is a positive preach.. I am as I said also guilty of the annoymous postings when I am so frustrated by something I read that I write a mile a minute, make huge spelling mistakes and forget that I should put my name. I wouldn’t be trying to reach out to the teens in town if i couldn’t practice what I preach. As far as the IP block, this is probably a good idea if people are downright abusive, but we all have a right to express ourselves if we don’t do it at the expense of others reputations.

    If you are going to blog about someone and it is hurtful or can be in anyway offensive to their character I’d say you better have some really good proof to back up your words.

    I believe that Turf said she has blocked the IP’s so she herself doesn’t know who the poster’s are so i am not sure how she can go about blocking unless she just does what she has been doing and delete the offensive posts.

    Attacking someone’s character without something to back it up is just down right harmful and should never be accepted by anyone.

    You can attack the way someone does a particular job or how badly you feel about a cetain subject simply by saying, “In my opinion or “I believe” or “I know for a fact” etc. But then you should be able to back it up with concrete evidence.

    How we as adults conduct ourselves is how children percieve us and how they frame the way they act. and as i said, Kids are reading this blog.

  • 13 Robert F // Jul 26, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    This was the rule you forgot to add VPJ:

    Don’t do this:

    “”By Vet Park Junkie

    Below are my wishes for posting behavior on yourct.com. Sometimes, I get frustrated seeing stuff that I felt was addressed long ago. The list is from decades of posting, comments on this blog, and Turfgrrl’s stated preferences.”"

    If this list is from decades of posting, it seems from rather narrow decades. By posting this list in a Guest thread, you’re coming off as if this site has a troll or flaming problem. I would strongly disagree. I would suggest there are participants of varying degrees of opinion and ability to communicate, which would include staying on subject. Would you want to ban people for their inability to express their thoughts in an organized manner? With the decades of experience you inferred, certainly by now you should recognize that the greatest offenders to your etiquette are unlikely to change due to this list.

    “”Threads have topics. Read the intro posted by Turfgrrl. Believe it or not, it takes work and thought to start a thread. It’s now your turn to use your brain.”"

    Good point!

    “”Be respectful of others, some use considerable energy to create their posts.”"

    People have different upbringings and education, causing them to interpret the meaning of respectful, hence you may suspect someone of being disrepectful who is naive to your interpretation.

    “”Keep your post related to the topic. Before you tap “Submit Comment,” think. Off-topic posts are disruptive and disrespectful to those who are participating.”"

    I think how people respond to the subject, even if it is off subject, is part of their right to free speech, assuming they at least read the headline.

    “‘Read all of the posts in a thread before posting anything.”"

    This is a good idea if you wish to avoid being redundant.

    “”Posts commenting on spelling or grammar are trite. Also, don’t assume a poster’s first language is English.”"

    Isn’t this tip trite, afterall?

    “”I don’t care that you know how to swear.”"

    Truly, it shows a lack of self respect when done in any public forum.

    “”Jumping from thread to thread and dumping your load in each is diarrhea.”"

    That would be trolling. Yes, we want to avoid trolls. If you really think this site has one/them, then the sign-in suggestion can help prevent that.

    “”Don’t join fights. Ignore disruptive posts. A response encourages the behavior and will kill the thread. Note: some people incite emotions for just this reason.”"

    Good advice, to those who are sensitive.

    “”If you’ve just written an emotional response. Stop. Re-read the post that sparked your comment. Perhaps you misread it. If not, stop and re-write anyway. Imagine, you could be humorous or clever or … “”

    I try, on the latter point.

    “”Rants say more about the person writing the post than anything that he or she is trying to communicate. “”

    Or it could be someone mimicking a style they’ve seen on another blog to make a point.

    “”If you must attack, use poetry. Don’t expect a response, though.”"

    I think, therefore, I jab.

    “”Slander is bad. It’s called Libel in a blog. Posting private information on someone is bad.”"

    Do we have that happening here, or is it just hearsay among uninformed?

    “”Remember that we’re taught to act civilized for a reason. “”

    Depends on the teacher.

    “”Avoid “Me, too!” posts. “”

    Ditto, LOL, ROTFLMAO - XOX

    “”Do not include a long article in a post. Include a link instead. Also, when someone uses a link, don’t do the favor and post the article under the assumption that no one has read it. We know how to follow links.”"

    And you forgot to say, don’t quote other posts and go on infinitum, creating a long through for blah-blah-blah.

    “”ALL CAPS indicates shouting. “”

    Or a cry for help from a passive aggresive in denial, or someone a little tipsy doesn’t know they left the caps lock on.

    “”Use references and give credit for quotes. Don’t plagiarize. “”

    “”Don’t expect blogging to resolve your personal issues. “”

    I’m tellin ya, man, GO TO CALI!!!

    “”Keep your post related…get help….“Start your own blog.” “”

    Redundant.

    “”Didactic? Yup. Do I expect behavior to change? No, not really. Perhaps, just perhaps, someone will exercise a bit of self-editing.”"

    Didactic? No.

  • 14 Anonymous // Jul 26, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Children read these days?

    I thought they just get allergic to nuts, and obese.

  • 15 Joanne // Jul 26, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Yes, they read and they do believe it or not many times wrap themselves around things they have read and believe it to be the bible truth. Kids are kids and if they see adults acting badly they take as license to do the same.

    If a parent screams all day, you just might find the child will do the same because they feel its the only way they can be heard. If a parent smokes, most likely you will find that their offspring smoke, if a parent is a heavy drinker and puts off the idea that they are just having fun, the kids are going to feel as if this is ok for them too because they just want to have fun.

    Children learn from adults and as adults we need to lead by example. Yes, there are kids that read this blog and we have seen it by some of the postings about different subjects, I know because I have been told they read this blog by them, teachers have made comment about some of the postings here because their students have made comment..

    Just one question #14, are you saying kids are alergic to nuts and being obese or that all kids are obese? you see, everyone has their own interpretation of what they read!

  • 16 longtimer // Jul 26, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Great reminders of some common sense behavior. I think that the crime guy is who dumps posts in many theads. He’s been better lately, perhaps Turf made a few suggestions.

  • 17 Anonymous // Jul 26, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    No, perhaps Norwalk residents are now connected by email and mailing lists and not through any absurd thought the Crime guy has gone away.Certainly the two best places to live in the country are New Cannon and Darien.You know those areas its where Norwalk is sent their trash on the curb and on the streets.Fighting crime and common sense can’t be done on the blog but the mere thought the city needs leadership was obvious and now you see the tide rolling out for some.

    Its nice to see some sort of rules yet rules are made to be broken look at our city politics and dept heads they too are broken and need more than the blog to be fixed.

    Think of the crime guy? Most don’t think of Rillings and Moccia for a solution they for the most part are the problem.

    He has been better lately he probably been busy wondering how our DPW worker is doing, he was almost killed on quintard ave this week speeding was that crime and the support for traffic calming should now be addressed.It was for the most part Hals policy that put the worker in danger now that could be a crime or at least show city liability.

    Allowing city workers in the old police station and Neon workers inhaling asbestos is yet another crime but in time will that be addressed.

    Now its Brown did she commit a crime or has it been established the way the city is run is a crime?

    Sometimes using common sense while delivering a message to others who have none is a bit of challenge in itself.

    Having the crime guy tell you a city vehicle a day is now generating an accident report and the price of gas the way it is common sense would say its time to look at our fleet and who is driving the vehicles and what is being done to limit the damage done to our city vehicles.

    But then again whoever said the crime guy has any common sense why in the hell would he live in Norwalk if he did?

  • 18 Anonymous // Jul 26, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    Hey can you just call yourself crime guy or ask Turf to give you a thread? Some of us just prefer other types of threads here. I’m sure you feel what you have to say is important, but my time here is limited. I have 3 kids and an ailing mother to worry about. Reading about the goings on is more than I can handle.

  • 19 Anonymous // Jul 26, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    say what? maybe if your kids were growing up in Norwalk like mine I’d want to know more.Sorry to hear about your Mom we are in our house are doing a double header both our moms are failing so thoughts to you we are in the same boat.

    Crime costs money to fight and prevent,we in Norwalk only fight it so feel lucky if you pay taxes we don’t get serious and get serious with a solution it will only take money away from our kids won’t it?

    Why care what happens I agree let the city continue to be what it is.I do wonder who would prefer reading insults and ruin peoples good name out here on the threads it is a shame everyone can’t get along.Thats what most of the BOE threads are all about,the last transfer station threads ones aimed their sights on someone named Diane she must be a work according to the Ct blog.

    Other types of thread please explain all I ever read is how Corda with all his education can stay and receive a paycheck yet no one in two years has ever praised him or adnitted he is good at anything.We have Al with one of the largest budgets yet he is painted as a idiot along with Rillings and Moccia leading the crowd.This is what some prefer?

    Doing anything to remove these officials would be too hard so lets read about them and read the asaults they are much more productive than that crime guy I agree.Outside looking in the taxpayers look like idiots and show anyone looking at Norwalk your childrens education is left up to Corda the one who can’t chew gum and walk at the same time.A great oicture to paint isn’t it?

    maybe a closed membership would ensure no important information on Norwalk would seep out and ruin some of the plans others plot that take Norwalk money and serve only a few.

    Its a shame what they say about Corda he seems so smart and runs such a well run school dept.I think his contract should be extended for life.

  • 20 Ken Curtis // Jul 26, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    Wow……this is truly a refreshment of a topic compared to what I’ve BEEN reading in other blog sites here. Thanks for having this one and stating the rules.

    That’s all I have to say. Isn’t THAT nice?

    Bye, everyone, and have a good evening!

    Regards,
    Ken Curtis :)

  • 21 Watchdog // Jul 27, 2008 at 12:35 am

    Vet Park Junkie! It’s been over a year, hasn’t it? Good to see you again. Love your suggestions, by the way; notably, the “do not assume English is one’s first language.” Well said. Perhaps you can add: Never assume that all posters have similar learning styles. Misspellings and grammar impairment may denote learning specialties.

  • 22 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 27, 2008 at 7:59 am

    Robert F, you are right. I did forget the line by line commentary. Thanks for the memories!

    Watchdog, Joanne & Geake: Good ideas!

  • 23 Anonypus // Jul 27, 2008 at 10:13 am

    First of all my name, Anonypus (not a typo) - I am a species of animal that no one has suceeded in identifying my biological makeup or origins. With that out of the way, I have to say #19 that I thought you to be our old pal Mr. Greenpeace, but that last comment:
    “Its a shame what they say about Corda he seems so smart and runs such a well run school dept.I think his contract should be extended for life.”, gave you away… Sal, it’s over pal…now please sail off into the sunset. Bon Voyage.

  • 24 East Norwalk Native // Jul 27, 2008 at 10:40 am

    Paragraphs, please.

  • 25 Curious // Jul 28, 2008 at 8:15 am

    East Norwalk Native, who are you talking to? #19-what in the world have you been inhaling?

  • 26 East Norwalk Native // Jul 28, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    #25 just a general observation. Easier to read when thoughts are put into paragraphs.

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