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Norwalk Sausage Patrol


by turfgrrl


July 13th, 2008 · 54 Comments

So Sausage, Brooksy and Taxi were walking through the Norwalk shelter and Monteray village. The Hour reports:

With backgrounds in the military, the five men from the Angels’ New Haven chapter toured the area in the form of an Army patrol, walking in a line five meters apart, with a point man spotting what was ahead and the man in the rear looking back for any threats.

The men on each end communicated with two-way radios.

“Watch the windows, watch the windows,” point man Sausage called to Brooksy at the end of the line as the group walked through Monterey Village, a housing project off of Grove Street commonly known as Carlton Court.

All the man identified themselves by street names.

How fitting. Sausage is on patrol while Norwalk gets bacon bits as state funding. Ya know, I couldn’t even have predicted this breakfast story. And Taxi?  Did these New Haven Guardian Angels pick street names to cover Norwalk in particular? What were the names of the other two, Waffle and Flood?

Taxi, 50, said he believes the community knows more about crime and the benefits of having a Guardian Angels chapter here than city officials because, “they’re not living here.”

“Why wouldn’t they want the Angels in South Norwalk to help out law enforcement at no cost to them?” asked Sausage, a member of the group for a year.

“Please come to South Norwalk,” said Bridget Williams, a Woodward Avenue resident who spotted the Angels on Monroe Street and approached them.

Williams said she welcomed the Angels and was ready to sign a petition if that would lead to lead a chapter here.

“Where they are, there’s hope,” said former Norwalk police officer Donnie Sellers about the Angels.

Referring to South Norwalk, Sellers, who is spearheading the effort for a local Angels chapter, said, “Here are the streets of hard knocks, and that’s
why we need the Angels.” Regarding Moccia and Rilling’s opposition, Sellers said, “There may be small pockets of resistance against doing the right thing.”

Fifteen-year-old Jomar Addison, a resident of the King-Kennedy housing project on Chestnut Street, bounded up to the Guardian Angels, shouting, “Guardian Angels, I’ve seen you in Westport.”

Addison was more subdued in speaking to The Hour, but said he felt good about the Guardian Angels being in his neighborhood, “because they help people.”

Most of the response to the Angels was positive, with residents of King-Kennedy and young men
on the basketball courts behind Columbus Magnet School offering greetings and answering questions about crime — specifically drug sales — in the neighborhood.

Residents of the shelter reacted with relief and enthusiasm to what they perceived as an added security presence in the area.

“I am very glad they’re here,” one said, “because finally now I know that somebody is going to be around for protection, because as a woman — specifically a white woman — in Norwalk, Connecticut — specifically South Norwalk, Connecticut — it is not safe.”

Another shelter resident was outspoken in his doubts about the effectiveness of an unarmed patrol organization.

“How much of an impact can they have?” Robert Ness asked. “They don’t even have guns. Cops are being shot at now, and (the Angels) don’t even have guns. What can they do?”

Meanwhile, earlier this week Police Chief Rilling and Mayor Moccia announced more police patrols, in guess where?

By re-assigning officers to focus on gang violence in South Norwalk, police have gotten some guns and knives off the streets.

Police Chief Harry Rilling announced the redeployment Monday and since then, police have arrested seven men, two with suspected ties to the local Bloods gang, and seized a 12-gauge sawed-off shotgun, a .45 semi-automatic handgun and some knives.

Rilling said it’s too early to judge any success at this point.

“Success is not measured by one definition,” Rilling said. “Success to me will be an increase in seized firearms and reduced violence.”

Rilling’s redeployment of officers comes after a spate of gang and youth violence in the past month in which two people were stabbed - one fatally - and at least two others were shot.

Early yesterday morning, three teenagers were arrested after they allegedly dumped a loaded 12-gauge sawed-off shotgun near Norwalk Hospital. The three, whose names were not released because they are all under 18 years old, also were charged with possession of five bags of crack cocaine, police said.

On Wednesday evening, an officer on patrol near the King Kennedy Apartments on Chestnut Street spotted Justin Story, 18, of 424 Rowayton Ave., and a 17-year-old trespassing on the property. During a search, the two men were found with a seven-inch steak knife, a box cutter, a razor and a small amount of marijuana.

Early Tuesday morning, police arrested two men believed to be Bloods gang members driving in a car with a loaded .45-caliber Colt semi-automatic handgun.”The patrol division is stepping up to the fight to keep Norwalk safe,” said Norwalk police Sgt. Ronald Pine.

Yipes a box cutter. Next thing you know, someone from the Democratic party in District B will be calling for all  shoes to be x-rayed and the removal of any bottles of liquid over 3 ounces.

source: The Hour, New Haven Guardian unit tours Norwalk streets, By AMANDA NORRIS
and HAROLD F. COBIN, July 11, 2008

source: Advocate, Police step up with redeployment, By Jonathan Lucas, , July 11, 2008

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  • 1 Anonymous // Jul 13, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=8665652&nav=menu29_2_20 click on the camera to watch the video

  • 2 Anonymous // Jul 13, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    awesome, it will only hurt the ones we want to leave office, now clean out city hall we have someone who will now clean out south Norwalk.

    We all watched a road stop near washington village last night by the village people.No wonder nothing has changed seven police officers arresting two men on what a bag? or a serving of crack?

    Now we have the republican camp bailing out the titanic with baby fod jars.

    Not a bad idea checking for box cutters I would assume anyone who lost a loved one on 911 will get a chuckle also this thread just came up on google on box cutters. A shame anyone looking at Norwalk will certainly move on and keep looking for a destination.

    What does the developers feel when they see all this?

    While we are at it who is doing the renovation accross from the police station on so main st?

    yep Norwalk will prosper from all of this won’t she?

  • 3 Anonymous // Jul 13, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    How come the Hour has a story about a Guardian Angels unit patrolling in Norwalk Saturday night and makes it sound uneventful and channel 8 runs a story(with local daytime video) they were run out of town by Norwalk Police ?

    New Haven Guardian unit tours Norwalk streets

    http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=8665652&nav=menu29_2_20

  • 4 Anonymous // Jul 13, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Flood and waffle Turf?

  • 5 Anonymous // Jul 13, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Guardian Angels allegedly kicked out of Norwalk

    Posted July 12, 2008
    Updated 10:00 PM

    Norwalk (WTNH) — The Guardian Angels are staying out of Norwalk for the moment, after an alleged verbal argument with police ended in banishment.

    After a successful start-up in New Haven a year ago the Guardian Angels branched out to Norwalk. A new chapter, which was put together by a former Norwalk police officer hit the streets just a few weeks ago. However, last night members there say police officers told them to leave.

    Red berets and those signature t-shirts are considered a symbol of order in urban neighborhoods across the country.
    However, one group of Guardian Angels found themselves in conflict with law enforcement Friday night.

    “They told us that we were not wanted there and needed to leave, we were trespassing, we were gonna get arrested,” said Guardian Angel, Kenney “Sausage.” “And I tried to explain to them it’s at no cost to them, we work with the media we work with the local police and that we workwith the community to try to mak ethe streets safe.”

    Guardian Angels, “Sausage”, “Taxi”, and “Husband” tell us they were patrolling a housing complex with the Norwalk’s start-up chapter when a group of teens began making threats. They say that’s when Norwalk police arrived and confrounted them. Resident Natalie Perkins says she saw the aftermath and thought it unfair.

    “The Guardian Angels were trying to patrol the neighborhood and they were just being rude and disrespectful and told them to leave when they were trying to help them out,” Parkins said.

    We made numerous attempts to get comment from the Norwalk police department and were unsuccessful. Although we did get many comments from the community of support for the group they say were just trying to help.

    “I think they are doing the right thing. They trying to help out the community. Make people be safe,” said Kiarra Davis of Norwalk.

    A select few did tell us they are concerned the Angels may clash with locals and make a potenially bad situation worse. One community member has a suggestion on how to handle the situation.

    “They should sit down and come together to talk to so that they can work together, because the police alone cannot do it,” said Norwalk Church member, Yvonne Guthrie. “We can see the escalation of crime and so forth. So we all need to work together.”"

    That’s exactly what the Angels propose to do. Leader Curtis Sliwa has told them to stop patrolling in Norwalk until a sit down with Norwalk police is had next week.

  • 6 Barnstorm // Jul 13, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    Bad enough when the pissing contest between the Bloods and other gangs in South Norwalk spills over into bloodshed on the streets.

    Now the Norwalk police want to engage in one with the Guardian Angels over who gets to control crime in SoNo.

    If it means more of a police prescence on the streets down there or a bunch of linked “sausages” matters little; either way the residents get improvements.

    In the meantime Rilling and Moccia look like a bunch of second-grade playground bullies. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.

  • 7 anonymous // Jul 13, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    Doesn’t have anything to do with a pissing contest. Those Guardian Angels are non-residents and are not allowed on Housing Authority property any more than any other person. If NHA grants them permission to go there, they will not be trespassing. Until they get permission, they must follow the rules too.

  • 8 Anonymous // Jul 14, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Your not suppose to shoot people or rob anyone I thought those were rules too? Yep not a pissing match.

    This should get interesting who do you suppose will win the next round?

    Who are we blaming this on Kopp or Moccia?

  • 9 anonymous // Jul 14, 2008 at 8:38 am

    I think you are blaming it in the Director of the Norwalk Housing Authority, where it belongs. Only he can give permission for non-residents to havg out on the property. Also blame the attorneys, because it is a liability issue. If NHA grants them to be on the property, and the GA try to use those handcuffs they carry and someone gets injured, is NHA liuable for any of those injuries because they consented to allow GA to partol their property? Maybe we need to stop reacting without thinking of possible pitfalls. Meanwhile, nothing is stopping them from patrolling the perimeter on public property and doing their thing.

  • 10 Anonymous // Jul 14, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Another great spot on WTNH on Norwalk today.Yep the city just isn’t safe and the politicians now have found talking to the news media shows their arogance and stupidity.A grand slam for the city slam today.Change will come now that the other city officials see it isn’t worth backing Rillings and Moccia there time running Norwalk into the ground is limited.Lets see any parting favors from this administration that are given towards the end of his term.It certainly won’t be more officers on the street Moccia won’t hear of it Rillings hasn’t been told its what we need.

    Liability is a joke in Norwalk,the city is sued each week for something most things that simply needed fixing.I wonder when we will hear what the victims got paid this last winter slipping on the ice at our parking garages it was more than a nickle and dime pay out.

  • 11 MGeake // Jul 14, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Not to minimize that potential, but the Guardian Angels have not been sued in their entire three-decade history.

  • 12 anonymous // Jul 14, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    But if you were NHA, why would you take the risk. Might want to consider having liability insurance and hold harmless waivers agreements with NHA or any other private property that they want to patrol. This might eliminate amy liability concerns on their part.

  • 13 Anonymous // Jul 14, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Three stabbed in East Norwalk home invasion
    By John Nickerson
    Staff Writer

    Stamford Advocate

    NORWALK - Police arrested three women and a male getaway driver following an early morning home invasion in which two brothers and a 43-year-old woman were stabbed while sleeping in their East Norwalk home.

    All three victims were taken to Norwalk Hospital. Their conditions are not known at this time.

    The home invasion at 23 Charles St. was reported at 5:20 a.m. Monday.

    One of the victims recognized one of the assailants as an ex-girlfriend. A victim told police that the assailants fled in a green Saturn with Massachusetts plates.

    State police stopped a car matching the description in Greenwich near Exit 5 on Interstate 95 and arrested all four of the vehicle’s occupants with help from Greenwich police.

    Police arrested Izabel Ramirez, 24; Nadia Gomez-Hernandez, 22; Sheila Vargas-Selenas, 21; and Oscar Hernandez, 22. All of the alleged assailants are from Queens, N.Y.

  • 14 Anonymous // Jul 14, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    Thats not such a big deal two more were just stabbed at Roodner court now thats news.Just picked up two of my kids and blood everywhere.Maybe they should keep the angels out of housing they would need security themselves.Hey Rillings talk to the mayor he is running from the media WTNH can’t even get a call back.

    BUT WHO CARES THEY ARE KILLING THEIR OWN

  • 15 MGeake // Jul 15, 2008 at 11:06 am

    I guess no place is safe:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080711/ap_on_re_us/gangs_in_paradise

  • 16 Anonymous // Jul 15, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    A swift crackdown has netted at least six arrests and led to a pair of police raids is what the link has said.This means a proactive force.Yes there is crime yet other cities are hitting it head on.

    No one knew the ICE team was doing anything in Norwalk today according to a friend.Once they were here did they notify the Norwalk police,guess they had to Norwalk is host to most crime in the area nowadays.

    All the talk about extra police on ,isn’t it the start of the new fiscal year where Rillings can hide ghost officers salaries and flood the st with overtime,yep that makes happy cops don’t it?

    Where are our new officers? has the test gone off? How many were eliminated? How many officers have we lost waiting for the new ones?

    Still don’t have enough translators for victims or witnesses no way to run a police dept.

  • 17 MORE BS FROM OUR FEARLESS LEADER // Jul 15, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Hell if the Chief and the Mayor were not embarrassed into it by the call for the Guardian Angels, the only CRACKDOWN would have been the CRACK being sold DOWN town next to NPD HQ.

  • 18 Lindsay // Jul 15, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Sausage??

  • 19 New to town // Jul 15, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    I find it interesting that so many people here are bashing Rilling and Moccia. I’m new here but I thought that Moccia’s only been in office for something like 3 years.

    Do you all mean that South Norwalk and the NHA Housing Projects were all safe, clean, pleasant crime-free neighborhoods 4 years ago? There were no drugs or gangs in South Norwalk before 2005?

  • 20 anonymous // Jul 15, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Who was the mayor who brought all this low income housing to Norwalk in the first place?

  • 21 Patriot // Jul 16, 2008 at 7:44 am

    #19 - definitely NOT. #20 I don’t know but it wasn’t Moccia. And just for the record, I’m not his biggest fan.

  • 22 anonymous // Jul 16, 2008 at 8:03 am

    Don’t be suprised. People who use this site are mostly the disgruntled minority. They bash everyone in position of authority. If their position was that of the majority, the people they are bashing wouldn’t have been elected.

  • 23 Anonymous // Jul 16, 2008 at 9:59 am

    So it seems you have all the answers, you’re easy to track. You’re not disgruntled? What’s your agenda? You spend a lot of time defending everything that people on this blog are commenting on. Makes me wonder whose words you’re posting.

  • 24 anonymous // Jul 16, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Pushing for the will of the majority.

  • 25 Anonymous // Jul 16, 2008 at 10:22 am

    “Majority” = special interests, most likely…

  • 26 anonymous // Jul 16, 2008 at 10:35 am

    No. I think the majority want less intrusion of the government in their lives, less taxes, and less people telling them what to do with their lives. I think that the majority pretty much want to be left alone, and that special interests on both sides have resulted in too much government involvement in our daily lives, and a vocal minority on both sides tend to get their way, resulting in the government spending more money on social issues than they should, and trampling on the rights of the individual.

  • 27 Anonymous // Jul 16, 2008 at 11:30 am

    A John Bircher! Please don’t foist your ultraconservative “values” on us as representing the will of the majority. The principles you’re espousing have been rammed down our throats for the last eight years and I for one and sick of it. The only reason that has been the case is due to the hoodwinking of the electorate that took place to get the proponents of those tenets in office.

    By virtue of your posting here, you are one of the very same vocal minority that you’re bloviating about. Spare us your hypocrisy, please.

  • 28 anonymous // Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57 am

    More libertarian than john birch. And not really that conservative. Actually very liberal in that I don’t really care what people do in their personal lives as long as it doesn’t involve me or my tax dollars. Gay, straight, pro-abortion, anti-abortion, smoker, pot-head, straight-edge, vegetarian, meat-lover, philanthropist, miser, don’t really care one way or the other. Just stop using my money and let me contribute where I see fit, and not where you want my money to go.

  • 29 so // Jul 16, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    who really care

  • 30 disgruntled 101 // Jul 16, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    we can blame the mayor for the last three years you want the short list of people he has pissed off with his arogance and stupidity?

    We are talking a man who was to have come from the very streets the police patrol if not mistaken he was a marshal.He represents all of the taxpayers yet plays a very good game of it wasn’t me it was the last guy card.

    Lets just talk three years add his to do list up and see what he has done.It starts looking like a snake oil medicine show only trouble is we can’t expect him to leave town shortly he still has the corner spot to do his spin.

    Look at the other mayors and their crime and coruption,they like normal cities become proactive and not only respond but use every resource they have for their residents.

    Our mayor belongs to the The Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition is a coalition of mayors from 225 different United States cities, with a stated goal of “making the public safer by getting illegal guns off the streets.” The group was formed on April 25, 2006, during a summit held at Gracie Mansion in New York City that was hosted by Boston Mayor Thomas Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. However, Richard M. Daley still holds his position as the CEO of this coalition.

    BIG DEAL it won him his seat what has he done for us?

    many other examples of what he should of done or what should do yet all we hear from him is the parents are to blame and what social contract we all need to follow yet his job is to make Rillings do his job or simply go and do what other cities have done.By waiting to see if our crime goes away other cities are simply pushing their troubles here to Norwalk.Read the court and arrest records its not all kids and its not all US citizens.

    No one is blaming Moccia for our troubles we for the most part are wondering when he is going to step up to the plate do what mayors do

    OBSERVE DEDUCT and RESPOND we can’t even get him to come out from under his friggin desk.Now the papers have Bondi running things while Dick is away another marshal who doesn’t know the streets whats next?

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