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Common Council Meeting of June 10th


by turfgrrl


June 11th, 2008 · 38 Comments

Starting about 6 PM, Director of DPW Hal Alvord, made a presentation about the solid waste disposal issue. For some reason, many in the audience seemed to think that this issue was an 11th hour project. Au contraire, the earliest I recall earnest city discussions about the solid waste issue is March of 2007. And this was because infrastructure, as in flooding, was very much on the minds of many. A snip from a news article at the time:

We have touched on only one segment of the infrastructure. Everywhere we see similar challenges that need to be addressed. For one more example, consider solid waste disposal. The city is currently in a contract with the Connecticut Resource Recovery Authority, CRRA, which will expire at the end of 2008.

Big jobs, big money for a city the size of Norwalk. It will not be brushed under the rug. To ignore the challenge is to put our city at risk.

And subsequent meetings, of the public works committee and the council all documented the process. Solid waste disposal, is not one of those top and center issues, until solid waste, that is garbage is not being removed. Then the public rightfully gets agitated about the failure to remove garbage. Which is what is happening in Naples, Italy, and the rest of Europe. They have a problem with landfills.

The CRRA contract expiration caused many towns in Connecticut to evaluate transfer station operations. And in Norwalk, Alvord contiuously explained the situation and the costs of tipping fees for months. And through the process, Alvord managed, in a rare form of regional cooperation, to work with 6 other municipalities to achieve an operational efficiency and reasonable cost.  For once a proactive leadership role for Norwalk. The fruits of those efforts are represented by surrounding towns improving their trash hauling practices.

Greenwich, for example, signed with City Carting:

City Carting & Recycling, under a contract reached about 10 days ago with the town, will be paid $82.50 per ton starting next year to transport all municipal solid waste from the Holly Hill transfer station to a Pennsylvania landfill.

The five-year contract is expected to pay the carting company about $4.4 million in its first year, according to town officials, who said about 54,000 tons of trash are dumped each year at the transfer station.

The town currently pays about $89 per ton to the Connecticut Resources Recovery Authority to have its garbage hauled away and incinerated, according to town officials, who said the rate is scheduled to go up to $98 per ton on July 1.

The quasi-public agency, using several subcontractors, operates a trash-to-energy plant in Bridgeport and transfer stations in Greenwich, Norwalk and Darien. It also transports the garbage. CRRA’s 20-year contract with the town expires Dec. 31.

“I suspect it will save us a ton of money,” Selectman Peter Crumbine said of the new contract.

While the contract includes a provision that allows City Carting to raise its hauling rates in future years to account for inflation, it does not allow the company to charge more for rising fuel costs.

“That’s important to us because, given what’s going on in the marketplace, we did not want to be hit with an increase in costs solely because of transportation,” said Town Administrator John Crary, who helped negotiate the contract.

Employees of City Carting, which beat out two other haulers for the contract, will run the Holly Hill transfer station. The town will continue to be responsible for enforcing recycling and trash disposal rules at the station, an issue that has come under scrutiny recently from town officials.

A series of surprise inspections by the CRRA last year uncovered a range of violations at the town’s transfer station, from carting companies illegally dumping garbage from other municipalities to their failure to separate recyclables.

Naturally, some Norwalk residents, armed with little factual information, objected to any change in the current practice and showed up at city hall to voice their concerns.  My observation was that once again we see NIMBYism at its worst. In the end, there is already a commercial transfer station on Meadow street, which instead of being privately run, will be overseen by the City of Norwalk. The same amount of trash will be processed there. A better operator will be running operations. In short, an improvement to what we have. But in Norwalk, misinformation is bandied about, and real experts in waste management are viewed with suspicion. A sad state of affairs.

Which is where we pick up the typical common council coverage.

Common Council MTG 06/10/08

Attending: Serasis, Brown, Sutton, Lindstrom, Bolden, Geake, Moccia, Bondi, Straniti, Conroy, Moccia, Bonnefant, Kydes, Hempstead,

III. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

Bobby Burgess: Makes many spurious claims about paid lobbyists influencing the officials and elected in Norwalk, and that condos from Danbury dumping in Norwalk.

The Mayor: said that he wasn’t aware of City Carting having a lobbyist and points out that Burgess has been a paid lobbyist.

Diane Lauracella: Representing the League of Women Voters, asking the city council to take the time to review the details of this contract change.  Claims that the due diligence has not been done.  Has contacted environmental justice to investigate.
Julie Barton: Requests that council spend more time studying the issue.
Ernest Dumont: Concerned about leakages in trucks. 500 residents live in area.
Bitsy Farnsworth: Harborview residents are distressed at traffic on Meadow street. Concerned that such detailed info is presented before a vote to be taken by the council.
Ann Barrows: Concerned about Meadow street traffic.

Michael Farrell: From City Carting. The Meadow street site is permitted to handle waste since 1994. They run transfer stations all over the street and mentions the Stamford location. The permit is for 500 tons now, and that shouldn’t result in more traffic. They are committed to cleaning up the site, and to get the property clean which they are doing right now.


Missy Conrad:
Thinks the contract review is at 11th hour.  Says that Woodward can’t handle trucks.  Wants a public hearing.  Is concerned about recycled.
Rudy Pinto:R Owner of property across the street.  Has concerns about how much trash will be transferred there. Asks if this is a zoning matter.

Resignations and appointments

David Murchie has resigned from the Norwalk Facilities Construction Committee and the Mayor thanks him for his service.

Lewis Clark is appointed to the Water pollution Authority with only Doug Sutton abstaining.

?IV. MAYOR
A.    REMARKS
Says that the council voted to hire an independent consultant to make recommendations and that they have been working with 7 other towns. This is not an 11th hour project it has taken 2 years and time to get to this point. Points out that if the city continues with CRRA, the costs will go up and that everyone would start complaining about paying mroe in taxes and being unable to live in Norwalk.

?V. COUNCIL PRESIDENT
They approve the consent calendar.

The assistant corporation was introduced, Brian McCann.

Carvin is welcomed back.

First Item off consent:
Finance Committee:
VII A 6: The Rogers Ritch Merrit House transfer and allocation to existing Mill properties.

Amanda Brown received an email concerning the transfer of the funds from Terry Tylo. Asks about bids and approvals for the projects, is concerned about the HVAC being installed on private property of the Norwalk Museum.

Brown asks about the defunding process.
Tom Hamilton responds, this is the typical process that you are going through now. A project is requested to be closed down and that the same department requests another appropriation. The Mayor has to agree to the close out of the project, than the planning commission and then the BET and then it comes back to the council. It’s the same process Norwalk always follows.
David Park answers the question about the length of the lease and that it is 38 more years.
Mayor Moccia says that this is just the allocation of the funds and that then it will go out to bid.
Laurel Lindstrom: Says that the piece of the hosue should be kept in good condition.
Mayor Moccia responds that it might not be the the right place to do it.

Kelly Stranitti: There was lengthy discussion at the historic commission and that the project was to be kept open and to seek other funding sources.  This will be a standing committee of the HC.

Doug Hempstead: Confirms that it has gone through the planning commission. The project is not being abandoned as money is being left in the account. Money is being left in to reimburse private funds that were donated for this project.
Fred Bondi: Is not going to recuse himself since this is not the first time Terry Tylo has attacked him.
Here are the votes:
Bondi Y
Brown Y
Geake Y
Sutton N
Bonnefant Y
Serasis Y
Bolden Y
Kydes Y
Lindstrom Y
Hempstead Y
Straniti Y
Conroy Y

They take a 5 minute recess that is 10 minutes long.

They come back from recess to tackle the next item.

Public Works Committee Item B 1 and 2, the City Carting issue:
Hempstead makes a motion for a Public Hearing by the full Council on June 18th and tabling the issue till the next council meeting. Nice parliamentary maneuver, it cuts off all the pontificating and provides for another night of public comments on garbage.

Here are the votes 

Bondi Y
Brown  passes, asks for clarification then votes Y
Geake Y
Sutton N
Bonnefant Y
Serasis Y
Bolden Y
Kydes Y
Lindstrom Y
Hempstead Y
Straniti Y
Conroy Y

Planning Committee the Master Plan of Conservation Approval

Bonnenfant: Will be voting against it but compliments the work done to get the plan together.
Kydes: Congratulates those that worked on the plan and says he will vote for it and that it is time to pass it.

Mayor Moccia thanks Reverend bolden for moving the plan through as quickly as she had.

Hempstead: Thanks Bolden for sheparding the plan productively. We have a great plan in front of us.

Stranitti: Commends Reveerend Bolden for getting the plan to the council. Started working on the plan as a neighborhood leader to this point.
Brown: As a member of Reverend Bolden’s committee and that Tim Sheehan did an excellent job managing the process of the comments and documents color coded and easy to read.
Bondi: Served on council since the start of Frank Esposito and that its really a pleasure to have appointed the right person to the planning commission, and that it’s a pleasure to be able to vote on it tonight.
Lindstrom: Thrilled to be voting on it tonight and having worked on the mini master plans that she appreciates how much work has been done on it.
Bolden: Thanks everyone and the Mayor. Truly humbled by wonderful comments. Thanks the committee, the staff the commission, mentions Mike Greene and Tim Sheehan.

Bonnenfant votes against it everyone else votes for it.

The end.

And for those interested the agenda for the night:

NORWALK, CONNECTICUT 8:00 P.M. EST COUNCIL CHAMBERS
ALL COMMON COUNCIL ACTIONS TAKEN AT THIS MEETING TO APPROVE EXPENDITURES AND CONTRACTS OR TO ACCEPT BIDS AND OTHER PROPOSALS REQUIRING THE EXPENDITURE OF CITY FUNDS ARE SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
I. ROLL CALL ??II. ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES ?Regular meeting – May 27, 2008 ??III. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ?IV. MAYOR
A. RESIGNATIONS AND APPOINTMENTS
Resignations: David Murchie – Norwalk Facilities Construction Committee ?Appointments: Lewis Clark – Water Pollution Control Authority ?Reappointment: ?B. REMARKS
V. COUNCIL PRESIDENT
A. GENERAL COUNCIL BUSINESS??B. CONSENT CALENDAR:
VI. REPORTS: DEPARTMENTS, BOARD AND COMMISSIONS
A. CORPORATION COUNSEL
1. Approve appointment of Associate Corporation Counsel, Brian McCann.
B. BOARD OF ESTIMATE & TAXATION
1. RESOLVED, that sum not to exceed $60,970 be and the same is hereby transferred from contingency to the Register of Voters to cover the cost of administering the Presidential primary election in February. (Account No. various).
2. RESOLVED, that a sum not to exceed $237,586 be and the same is hereby transferred from Contingency to the Police Department to cover severance payments. (Account No. various).
3. RESOLVED, that a sum not to exceed $150,583 be and the same is hereby transferred from Contingency to the Police Department to pay for an anticipated shortfall in overtime wages. (Account No. various).
COMMON COUNCIL AGENDA PAGE 2 JUNE 10, 2008
VI. REPORTS: DEPARTMENTS, BOARD AND COMMISSIONS (continued)
B. BOARD OF ESTIMATE & TAXATION (continued)
4. RESOLVED, that a sum not to exceed $20,000 be and the same is hereby transferred from Contingency to the Police Department to purchase Uniforms for new recruits and replace uniforms and equipment damaged in the line of duty. (Account No. 3061-5276).
5. RESOLVED, that a sum not to exceed $156,574 be and the same is herby transferred from Contingency to the Fire Department to cover severance payments. (Account No. various).

VII. COMMON COUNCIL COMMITTEES
A. FINANCE COMMITTEE
1. Accept and approve the Report of the Claims Committee dated, May 8, 2008.
2. For informational purposes only: Monthly Tax Collector’s Report dated, April 30, 2008.
3. For informational purposes only: Narrative on Tax Collections dated, May 29, 2008.
4. Approve FY 2008-09 Parking Authority Budget.
5. Authorize the Mayor, Richard A. Moccia, to execute an amendment to CIRMA for third party administrative services for the self-insured Worker’s Compensation and Heart & Hypertension at the same rate as the third year of the current contract:?For fiscal year 2008-2009 (July 1, 2008 – June 30, 2009) at a per claim cost of $200 for medical only, $1,095 for indemnity and heart/hypertension and $25 for record only.?For fiscal year 2009-2010 (July 1, 2009 – June 30, 2010) at a claim cost of $200 for medical only, $1,095 for indemnity and heart/hypertension, and $25 for record only.
6. Resolution, reducing $115,000 from Rogers-Ritch-Merritt House (Account No. 09036310-5777-C0275).
7. Resolution, appropriating $35,000 for Mill Hill Buildings (repairs to Little Red Schoolhouse at Mill House)?(Account No. 09036310-5777-C0276).
8. Resolution, appropriating $20,000 for Mill Hill Cemetery Restoration (Account No. 09036310-5777-C0457).
9. Resolution, appropriating $40,000 for Norwalk Museum HVAC system and Collection Care & Restoration (Account No. 09036310-5777-C0449).
10. Resolution, appropriating $20,000 for Pine Island Cemetery (Security Lighting) (Account No. 09036310-5777-C0459).

COMMON COUNCIL AGENDA PAGE 3 JUNE 10, 2008
VII. COMMON COUNCIL COMMITTEES (continued)
A. FINANCE COMMITTEE (continued)
11. Resolution authorizing the issuance of $5,920,000 bonds of the City to meet an appropriation for infrastructure and traffic improvements in the Reed-Putnam Redevelopment area and pending the issuance thereof the making of temporary borrowings for such purpose.
12. Resolution making appropriations for various public improvements aggregating $29,716,500 for the 2008-2009 capital budget and authorizing the issuance of $27,088,500 General Obligation bonds of the City to meet certain appropriations in the 2008-2009 capital budget.
13. Resolution with respect to the issuance and sale of not exceeding $34,200,000 City of Norwalk, Connecticut General Obligations bonds, series 2008.

B. PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
1. Authorize the Mayor, Richard A. Moccia, to execute an Agreement with City Carting, Inc. for the disposal of municipal solid waste for a term of ten years commencing on January 1, 2009. ?Account No. 014042 5298
2. Authorize the Mayor, Richard A. Moccia, to execute a Lease Agreement with Meadow Street Partners, LLC for the lease of the Meadow Street Transfer Station for a term of ten years commencing on January 1, 2009. Account No. 014042 5298
3. Authorize the Purchasing Agent to issue a Purchase Order to Signal Service, Inc. for the purchase of six (6) traffic controllers for installation along East Avenue for a sum not to exceed $ 101,700. ?Account No. 0140 31 5267?0140 31 5269?0140 31 5343?0140 33 5342?09074120 5777 C0397
4. Authorize the Mayor, Richard A. Moccia, to execute an Agreement with Laferriere Associates to provide professional survey easement maps in connection with the Meadowbrook and Noah’s Lane Projects for a sum not to exceed $ 3,700. Account No. 0908 4027 5777 C0423
5. Authorize the Director of Public Works to issue Orders on Contract to Deering Construction for Project No. 4R 2007-1 in connection with providing ADA access at the picnic pavilion at Cranbury Park for a sum not to exceed $13,672. Account No. 0908 6030 5777 C0366
6. Authorize the Mayor, Richard A. Moccia, to execute an Agreement with DW Transport & Leasing, Inc. for Street Sweepings/Catch Basin Grit Transport & Disposal for a first year amount of $194,880 in accordance with responses to Request for Proposals #2629. Account No. 014042 5299

COMMON COUNCIL AGENDA PAGE 4 JUNE 10, 2008
VII. COMMON COUNCIL COMMITTEES (continued)
B. PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
7. Authorize the Mayor, Richard A. Moccia, to execute an Agreement with Almstead Tree and Shrub Care, LLC for the supply and planting of trees and shrubs for an amount not to exceed $100,000.
Account No. 09034021 5777 C0233?09054021 5777 C0316?09064021 5777 C0353?09074021 5777 C0353?09084021 5777 C0233?09094021 5777 C0233?09096030 5777 C0370

C. RECREATION,PARKS AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
Technical Correction: June 26, 2007 Action, item number VII.C 4a &4b to include?additional account number.
Original items: ?4a. Authorize the Mayor, Richard a. Moccia to enter into an agreement with Shock Electric for project #2517 Baseball Field Lighting at Brien McMahon high School for a sum not to exceed $297,570.00. Account#’s 09026030-5777-C0215, 09076030-5777-C0371.
4b. Authorize the Director, Recreation and Parks to issue change orders on a contract for a total not to exceed $29,757.00. Account # 09076030-5777-C0371.
Corrected item to read as follows:?1b. Authorize the Director, Recreation and Parks to issue change orders on a contract for a total not to exceed $29,757.00. Account #’s09026030-5777-C0215, 09076030-5777-C0371.
2. Authorize the Director , Recreation and Parks to issue change orders on a contract with Wernert Construction Management LLC for the Renovation of the Calf Pasture Beach Men’s 7 Ladies Rooms for a sum not to exceed $15,671.00. Account# 09076030-5777-C0292.
3. Authorize the Mayor, Richard A. Moccia, to execute an amendment to Partners for Architecture/engineering design services contract for the Calf Pasture Restroom Project, in order to expand the existing scope of services to include the Bathhouses, for an additional amount not to exceed $23,900.00. Account # 09076030-5777-C0292.

COMMON COUNCIL AGENDA PAGE 5 JUNE 10, 2008
VII. COMMON COUNCIL COMMITTEES (continued)
D. PLANNING COMMITTEE
1. Approval of the Norwalk Master Plan of Conservation and Development.
2. Approval of the State of Connecticut Personal Services Agreement.
3. Approval of City of Norwalk Adoption of Non-Discrimination Agreement and Warranties.
4. Approve the attached list of programs for inclusion in the Neighborhood Assistance Act Tax Credit Program.

VIII. RESOLUTIONS FROM COMMON COUNCIL
IX. MOTIONS POSTPONED TO A SPECIFIC DATE
X. SUSPENSION OF THE RULES ???XI. ADJOURNMENT

APPOINTMENTS
WATER POLLUTION CONTROL AUTHORITY M/C Nwlk Code 113-3 ___
Lewis Clark (R) Succeed J. McInerney?24 Creeping Hemlock Drive Term expires – 4/01/11?Norwalk, CT 06851

source: Greenwich Time, Stamford firm wins carting contract, By Neil Vigdor,  06/04/2008

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  • 1 MGeake // Jun 11, 2008 at 9:47 am

    A subtle but significant correction: while on day one the volume will be the same (500 tons), it is the city’s stated intent to ask for a permit amendment to allow 1,200 tons.

    Oh, and Ernie Dumas misspoke; there are 1,580 people within one block of that site.

    I have asked Hal Alvord to get us copies of the Phase 1, 2, and 3 environmental reports that Mr. Ferro indicated were prepared last year. I also asked for the preliminary traffic numbers after they do their count on Thursday. With those items added to our “packet”, I will be in a much better position to judge whether the contract being proposed protects the city’s interests.

  • 2 Anonymous // Jun 11, 2008 at 9:56 am

    We all know of the traffic and safety voilations that occur on Meadow st each day the blind eye is working overtime isn’t it?

    Put the Homeless shelter in a better building and take care of our needs on Strawberry Hill, the methadone clinic on wall st near the bus depot and give us the transfer station if nimby is not a point.

    Bolden is simply selling out South Norwalk I’m sure a health study is needed soon in South Norwalk but would she be the one to ask for one?

    Kydes is right time to pass they have other taxpayers to screw down the road and Fred is in a hurry.

    I am under the impression we received only three bids one of which Hal jokingly said he threw that rep out of his office so we have two companies over a two year period in the United states interested in making money in Norwalk.

    When did the traffic report get released?

    So many facts so little time but lets just pass this

    for the record Authorize the Purchasing Agent to issue a Purchase Order to Signal Service, Inc. for the purchase of six (6) traffic controllers for installation along East Avenue for a sum not to exceed $ 101,700. ?Account No. 0140 31 5267?0140 31 5269?0140 31 5343?0140 33 5342?09074120 5777 C0397

    wasn’t this traffic calming money? This was moved around in another meeting before Lindstrom asked Hal what are we doing about traffic calming.Hal said nothing he has no available engineer why can’t these facts be recorded? There is a public need to read the facts.

    If the city can’t fix one storm drain on meadow st after working on it for 5 months how can anyone have any faith the DPW is running the city properly.The damm pipe could of been replaced by now and the city could of saved a 1/2 of million on 500 feet of pipe.Try that fact on for size.

  • 3 Anonymous // Jun 11, 2008 at 10:02 am

    Sound system in council chambers does not work well, council members do not even use the mikes at their desks. It is difficult to follow what is being said except when some of the speakers at the podium get very close to the michrophone.
    I was glad to see Mr Hemstead move to table action on the City Carting deal until after a full public hearing. Mr Alvord seems too anxious to get it done now and did not have answers to obvious questions, like traffic study numbers. See biggest whopper thread.

  • 4 Anonymous // Jun 11, 2008 at 10:38 am

    #1 out of the 500 there is 250 tons of just construction debris that is permiteed.Hal said currently no more than one truck a day leaves with construction debris.That is in lay terms one 70,000 pound load 1 18 wheel dump trailor.

    His words were turn it into a real draw and lower the price on tipping so they can put the other transfer station out of business in South Norwalk.

    So what happens when we see 1200 tons a day come through Norwalk streets? We see it go out in at least 40 dump trailors spewing its dust and exhaust onto the 2000 people who live there each day.Thats about 5 an hour for the lay person.

    Now comes the bailor seems to be missing from most presentations does it make noise? my kids would say DAHHHHHHH mr mayor.

    Lets not take my word for the facts I’m not a political jugernut I will simply leave the phone numbr to back up facts something yet seen in the news.Have a problem with this plan call the state and talk to them.Complain about the process.

    1 860 424 3366 this number handles all transfer station in Ct.

    there has to be what 5 permits done so this can be done they knew this two years ago so whats the friggin hurry we have been watching water boil for new cops maybe its time to get what we want before they ( the chosen few) get what they think we want.

    Rowyaton cannot be this stupid thinking this won’t effect the traffic flow as it is we still are not taking any measures to stem the chaos we have now , schools out in a week go to Meadow st and watch how many young lungs getting off the bus are sitting accross from this quarter mile of legal emissions as it is.

    Its not about the quality of life is it?

  • 5 Terri Tylo // Jun 11, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    First of all, I have been made aware that the Management Company has NOT been consulted about an HVAC system being added to the Norwalk Museum building. Neither have the owners. Why is a project being funded without any approvals by the owners or management company?

    I did not attack Mr. Bondi, I merely asked 2 questions which can be read in today’s Hour. Even if I had attacked Mr. Bondi, it has nothing to do with whether or not Mr. Bondi should recuse himself. It is his conduct which is in question, not mine. He is the elected official. His interference with the museum has been well documented over the years.

  • 6 norwalker // Jun 11, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    There may be 38 years left on the lease of the Norwalk Museum, but partners have wanted to sell for years and dump the museum and that may happen sooner than you think. There goes 40K down the drain of taxpayer money. Too bad our elected/appointed officials never seem to get the facts straight.

  • 7 Terri Tylo // Jun 11, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Yes #6 there may be 38 years left on the lease but some of the partners have been trying to get rid of the Museum since the first year that it opened. Could that be why the curator “got” her job? I don’t know. What I do know is that someone has bought all but 31% of the shares and you may be right about that 40K going down the drain. Maybe it will get reallocated to another useless project.

    Why is questioning the use of taxpayer money somehow an attack? Guilty conscience? I feel there is too much taxpayer money being wasted by the city. Why can’t the elected officials be fiscally resonsible? Maybe because it isn’t their money? So many questions, so few answers.

  • 8 former conservation commissioner // Jun 11, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    When has Diane been right on an environmental issue? I have sat through so many fantasy hazards that I can’t remember if there have been any factual incidents.

  • 9 Anonymous // Jun 11, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    I find it very interesting that if someone disagrees with a member of the common council, it automatically becomes an attack. I thought we lived in a country that allows us to disagree with government without fear. Mr. Bondi stop whining and suck it up. Not everyone agrees with you or your relatives. Maybe it is time for you to step down and give someone else a chance, someone that would stop and listen rather than act like a wounded bird all the time. We are taxpayers and have the right to speak.

    I have personally seen the mayor at a CC meeting treat taxpayers like last night’s trash just because they gave their point of view. I was appalled at his rude behavior and total disregard for the taxpayer. He told me just after he was elected the first time that he loved his job one party after another and plenty of booze. There were a few common council members that didn’t act much better.

  • 10 #9 U hit the nail on it's HEADS // Jun 11, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    I can’t wait to get these clowns on TV. Especially the videos of what goes on after the meeting closes.

  • 11 Cecil B DeMiller // Jun 11, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    Can I put it on U Tube?

  • 12 anonymous // Jun 11, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    If the demorats want a mayoral example remeber how Mayor Knopp acted with the senior citizen in 2005 who recounted how rude Knopp was to her. Mayor Moccia is a gentleman.

  • 13 Anonymous // Jun 11, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Newsflash — some taxpayers are uninformed NIMBYites who care nothing about community and everything about making a big brouha over anything so they can feel superior to everyone else. Look at the names who always show up against something and ask yourselves how much time these people have contributed towards helping their neighbors versus criticizing the people who are. Thanks to turffie for covering these meetings for those of us who can’t make them.

  • 14 Anonymous // Jun 11, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    #9 can’t add anything to that its true I also have seen it.

  • 15 Anonymous // Jun 12, 2008 at 8:38 am

    #12 I agree Knopp was rude. But Moccia is no gentleman he was rude and obnoxious. It is his way or the highway. He promises the world when he has had a few.

  • 16 Anonymous // Jun 12, 2008 at 9:30 am

    Wait till his term is over and his legacy comes back to bite those who trusted him.But then again some have gained from his stunts in office.

  • 17 norwalker // Jun 12, 2008 at 9:52 am

    Knopp was rude this one time. Moccia makes it a multi daily occurrance. Throw in a few drinks and he becomes a sloppy nasty drunk. But maybe that’s the way we want Norwalk to be represented. Maybe it’s who we are anyway.

  • 18 Anonymous // Jun 12, 2008 at 10:16 am

    Rename washington st draft row I guess thats what Norwalks wants.Our family goes out of the city now where its safer.

  • 19 Anonymous // Jun 12, 2008 at 10:27 am

    Both are rude and are only place holders for the real mayor, whose agenda they push. Why are Councilman acting like spoiled cry babies at public meetings? Just who are they representing? Certainly not us, the people who pay for everything. We can have our money distributed to every developer and contractor in town, but can we have decent roads to drive on?

    No, it would be for the taxpayers and not the developers! The city has been carved up but not for our benefit, but for the developers and the people who will move here when we can no longer afford to live here.

    WE need to get rid of these clowns. We should start with term limits.

  • 20 Hello... // Jun 12, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    #18, while I’m not in Politics, pleaase move out of Norwalk since you feel threatened. Go to ……..Bridgeport! Could you afford Westport, Wilton, New Canaan, Darien? You think they’re not corrupt? Any safer? Oh I could tell you stories, but then you’d need Mommy!!!!!

  • 21 Anonymous // Jun 12, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    #20 so you think Norwalk is corrupt and isn’t safer than the other cities and towns?

    why have you stayed?

  • 22 BETTY BONDI REDUX // Jun 12, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    In a letter to the Hour today Betty Bondi blamed everyone under the sun for not being backed by her own party. She forgot to blame the main reason, and that was her Republican relative FRED BONDI. Fred has become a liability to the Democratic party and a boon to the Republican party.

  • 23 Anonymous // Jun 12, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Its sad to see such events transpire.He is no prize for any party.

  • 24 Anonymous // Jun 12, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Betty should stop acting like a sore loser. She lost and that is all there is to it. Bondi One down two to go.

  • 25 nwlk voter // Jun 13, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Isn’t it great that she had to add the little snipit about the Republican registrar? Why can’t she take what happened at face value? She is the payback for her father in-law not falling in step with the powers that be of the DTC. Whether or not she and the Republican registrar get along has nothing to do with what happened to her. Anyone wishing to get into politics needs to keep in mind that the top powers in any party can make or break you depending on if you do their bidding or not. You can do the best job ever and the voters can love you to death but if the top people in your party don’t like you or you don’t do as they say, you will never see your name on a ballot again unless of course you have the hudspa to buck them and primary for what you want. Then all those who you thought were your close allies will work behind your back to make sure that the voters are turned away in droves. So hopefully Mrs. Bondi takes this at face value and realizes that her party is the cause for this and not the Republican registrar. We’ve seen this time and again in Norwalk and we will continue to see it as long as people allow others to dictate who represents us.

  • 26 Cynical1 // Jun 13, 2008 at 11:34 am

    nwlk voter is correct that you have to have the hudspa to stand up to the party leadership.

    Back in the mid 90’s Rick McQuaid was dumped by the party leadership…then lead by Dick Moccia. McQuaid decided to primary for his at-large seat. He along with Conroy,McCready and Tobin easily won the primary. The party backed candidate- Al Ayme lost the final spot to Arteaga. Arteaga decided not to run with the other four and almost lost to Ayme.

    The bottom line is that sometimes you need people to stand up and challenge the party leadership. The leadership at that time did not like McQuaid and would have been happy to see Conroy or Tobin lose.

    The Bondi’s are a mystery becuse they would easily win primaries if they chose to wage them. Fred would have crushed Poruban in a primary last year, and Betty would crush Wells in a primary now. They choose not to fight….sometimes you need to fight.

  • 27 anon // Jun 13, 2008 at 11:47 am

    Maybe the Bondi’s are just sick of the petty b.s. The Democratic Party in Norwalk is just going to self-destruct anyway - why be there when it happens?

  • 28 nwlk voter // Jun 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    #26- looks like the party gave McQuaid the same treatment recently when they chose to make a statement by not nomonating to the RTC. Could this be because he doesn’t cow tow to those who wish to control everything? McQuaid could easily primary for Mayor and win the spot. He has proven himself over and over again to the voters and the kids in Norwalk, so why shouldn’t he be the next nominee for mayor next year? Then maybe we can get some good dbates going on both sides instead of the same old tired campaigning that leaves people with an “it doesn’t matter if I vote anyway” attitude. Hudspa is everything in elections as well as life, if you don’t make the first move, you get lost in the shuffle. #27-you may be right, if they continue to do things out of spite, they may just destroy the voters confidence and go to the back of the line when election day arrives.

  • 29 Anonymous // Jun 13, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Thats ok Bondi and Kydes are certain the crime rate has gon down.So didn’t a stabing victim an hour ago he went down as well, then got a free ride the the hospital and free care.

    How does anyone get stabbed before lunch and call it random?

    Mr Mayor?

  • 30 Cynical1 // Jun 13, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    #28- McQuaid is not on the RTC because of a dispute with the District A Chairperson. As I understand it, there is a seat available for McQauid if he and the Chairperson can work out whatever problem they have.

    I’m not so sure he could “easily” win a primary, in which only Republicans can vote, against the sitting mayor. Head to head with Unaffiliated voters in the mix, may bear a different result.

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