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Norwalk: Hour Editorial Says Council Stalling


by turfgrrl


April 27th, 2008 · 31 Comments

The Hour editorial today scolds the Common Council for stalling on the 4 year Mayoral term start up a charter revision committee. Naturally, they chide council members for asking for more information. What the Hour should be chiding the common council for is not doing their homework in the first place. Committee meetings should be where this council should be hammering out the details of what they intend to vote on. So what committee meeting is discussing a charter revision?

The Hour further states:

We support the idea of the four-year term as it provides more stability in City Hall, allowing the mayor to concentrate on city problems without having to keep his eye on re-election in another year.

Well maybe The Hour should take a look at the charter, because the power of the City rests with the Council. Without Council authorization the Mayor, for example, has no power to enter into a contract. So if the Mayor needs a four year term, so does the Council. Or at least some of the Council. I’ve proposed before that any elected position that is city wide, that would include the Common Council At-large seats, the BOE At-large seats and the Mayoral seat should be four year terms. Let the in-district seats go every two.

While we are at it, the Council members pay should increase form the rate set in 1913 of $600 a year to something more in line with the hours required for the job. Maybe its even worth discussig that the At-large seats become full time. Sure, these are relatively big changes from how things have been always been done. But Norwalk has changed. Operational issues, policy issues and constituent services have outgrown the volunteer part time system we have now. The Mayor should have a legislative body that has the time and resources to do its work, just as much as the Common Council should have an executive branch that isn’t focused on elections.

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  • 1 Louis Layton // Apr 27, 2008 at 9:33 am

    While we are on the subject of stalling;

    Pardon me if I am mistaken, but did the council not vote to form an Ethics Committee last year?

    What happened to this plan that was to show the voters of Norwalk that everything was to be fairly and impartially looked at by the ethics commission when all else failed? Did this start out in the right direction then some in the Norwalk government decide that they could not control it, and staff it with all their political flunkies?

    It appears that “Dragging their feet” in Norwalk is a way of political business “As usual.”

    Not to mention the Charter Revision which seems dead in the water along with the Ethics Committee?

    It’s all starting to look like it was done for the Newspaper headlines, and little else.

    I am beginning to think that if a Developer wanted the Charter Revision or the Ethics Committee formed it would have been done in 48 hours.

  • 2 Ethically Challenged ? // Apr 27, 2008 at 10:18 am

    What is the Democratic Council afraid of or stalling for ? They cannot agree on an ethics committee and its members ? Maybe they need to get thrown out of office. A half year in office and they do nothing except go to ribbon cuttings. Led by the Do Nothing Five of Krummell Sutton Serasis Brown and Lindstrom, they are useless.They are more interested in titles than actually doing something. Laurel Lindstrom is exposed for the intellectually challenged one that she is with her incompetence and taking note and reading from a script. Like no one notices ? I’m on the ENNA and am sorry the residents of the city must put up with this just like we have for years. Speed hump anyone ? Also, the first target of the new blight ordinance might be this councilmembers front lawn.

  • 3 True Blue Dem // Apr 27, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Just what exactly has Fred Bondi done lately? At least Amanda Brown has good points each meeting. She should be council president, maybe things would start getting done instead of the Fred Bondi family protection act.

  • 4 Norwalker // Apr 27, 2008 at 11:27 am

    Turf,
    The BOE already has four year terms.The terms of in district and at large are staggered.

  • 5 Anonymous // Apr 27, 2008 at 11:28 am

    The fear of having NO Mo for four years until we can find his replacemnet is probably an overiding reason the taxpayers don’t want 4 years.There are other republicans I’m not trying to steer the popular vote towards the DR. or whats his name.

    Its odd how the last meeting Neighbors fear
    higher taxes, traffic from redevelopment in the Hour was like passing gas.Unwanted movement from taxpayers afraid we will be run into the ground.

    Why we are not talking Blue Black being a role model for Norwalk is obvious.Talk to the taxpayers there.West Hartford is sinking and they are not getting the tax relief promised from redevelopment.In fact their tax increases have forced people out the very same people who built West Hartford.

    Then to have The Hour not publish any news on Norwalk in thier Sunday edition and leave the editorial on the mayers term was typical of the detached community involvement The Hour is known for. This why should we listen to them.They too are finding it hard to compete and take the lions share of advertising from the Advocate with thier actions they are not for the city they have their own agenda when new advertisers come to Norwalk.

    We are not stalled we have been bulldozed by developers branwashed by Moccia and left in fear by Rillings made to smell Norwalk waste by Hal locked out of our parks by parks and rec and left out to dry by the council and you expect we want 4 year terms so we can what remember who screwed us for what.

  • 6 barnstorm // Apr 27, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Before the Hour criticizes anyone or anything, they ought to clean up their own house.There’s more local news in the Advocate, proofreading their own articles seems like an afterthought, and most of the “news” is simply copied & pasted from the AP .
    They should change their motto to “Yesterday’s News First Thing Tomorrow”. It is an embarrassment of a local newspaper.

  • 7 True Blue Dem is Crazy // Apr 27, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Amanda Brown for Council President. Hah you must be smoking the crack pipe that they pass around at her church. She needs to make laws to meet with people on the board of ed. How about pickin up the phone. She has done nothing as a city counselor. She needs to be thrown off the council. She has voted against numerous minority appointments and is a disgrace to her constituency. Speak with her for five minutes, she is a phony and not too smart.

  • 8 Anonymous // Apr 27, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    Amanda Brown must have wrote that entry touting herself. She is the only person in town who believes she should be anything on this council. She can’t hold a candle to Laurel Lindtrom who is the only new councilwoman worth anything. Laurel Lindstrom should have been a committee chair and not Amanda Brown who stole it from her when Laurel rightfully deserved it. Laurel Lindstrom should be the president of the council.

  • 9 Anonymous // Apr 27, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Phony and not too smart will win the mayors seat imagine she is eyeing that now.

  • 10 what's up with that? // Apr 27, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Hopefully there will be new faces vying for the Mayors seat next time around, there are a couple on the R’s side that the taxpayers would like to see run. Several who are dedicated to the town and not their ego’s. The Dems need to run someone with a vision, someone with an understanding that they work for the city and not their own political agenda. The council members mentioned above are a real joke. Nothing is getting done and nothing will until they realize what they are there for. We have seen absolutely nothing good come from them in 5 months other than passing notes, scripted verses and abstensions. Its all a political game to them that they think is impressing us. Its a huge joke. Anyone who thinks Amanda Brown is a good council person needs their head examined, she’s arogant and starts out every session with an attitude towards anyone who doesn’t agree with her. She tries to sound all legal and stuff and comes off really uninformed. Does she ever read her agenda before she gets there? Between her and Laural always saying they have not had enough time to review things whats up with that? As far as Laurel goes, she is a great environmentalist but as a council person? I don’t think so. On to the other side, whats with Nick Kydes anyway? Does he realize that we all see his snickers and back handed comments? He’s another one that needs to go. Talk about bloviating and pontificating…this buch has enough hot air for a good year blimp.

  • 11 Anonymous // Apr 27, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Amanda Brown at least tries hard. Look what she has to work with, a deaf guy, a tone deaf party, and deafening silence from Norwalk residents. For the people who put complaints here, get a life. The council men and women do more for Norwalk than you.

  • 12 Anonymous // Apr 27, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Now stop that Amanda. WE know you wrote the last response. Trying hard and results are two different things. At least Laurel Lindstrom gets results and you do nothing. Please list what YOU have done for norwalk. Thats right, your silence will be deafening since you have nothing to list. PHONEY BALONEY BROWN.

  • 13 Anonymous // Apr 27, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    If I’m Amanda Brown you must be Bill Krummel. Amanda passed the senior tax credit a program she campaigned on.

  • 14 NOrwalk Senior sets the record straight. // Apr 27, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    As a senior citizen that follows tax issues closely, I would like to set the record straight on the increased senior citizens tax credit. Fred Bondi and Carvin Hilliard introduced and worked on passing the increased tax credit a couple of months ago. Read the newspapers. Amanda Brown had nothing to do with passing it or drafting it other than voting for it. Get the facts straight. Amanda Brown is trying to take credit for something those real democrats accomplished for our seniors. Bruce Kimmell passed the first one several years ago for which those of us on a fixed income are thankful for. I am a senior and followed it closely and just wanted to set the record straight.

  • 15 Anonymous // Apr 27, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Thank you for setting the record straight The Hour can’t even report Norwalks news in today’s paper wonder what went wrong? Xmass party maybe?

  • 16 Anonymous // Apr 27, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Sounds like someone is spreading lies again. If Fred and Carvin had anything to do with a senior tax credit it was accidental. Amanda’s committee wrote it. Fred Bondi and Carvin Hilliard couldn’t write a bill if it was fill in the blank.

  • 17 Norwalk Senior sets the record straight. // Apr 27, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    Read the newspaper articles. Amanda had nothing to do with it. “Amanda’s Committee wrote it”. You are right Fred and Carvin are on the committee and they wrote the legislation. Amanda Brown couldn’t read a bill if it was right in front of her face.

  • 18 Reasons for Stalling // Apr 28, 2008 at 11:31 am

    1. Charter Revision-Republicans will not disclose to Dems who they want seated and confirm issues to be addressed. Also, Doug Hempstead doesn’t want the 4 year mayoral term because he wants to run.
    This commission is going nowhere, due to “bipartisan cooperation” on both sides of the issue.
    2. Ethics Commission-both sides will have to agree on the appointees who will potentially sit in judgment of them. Since Fred Bondi is the most likely subject of an ethics complaint, he has no reason to cooperate.
    This commission is going nowhere.

  • 19 Reasons For Stalling: the Fault of the DND // Apr 28, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    1. Charter revision is not moving forward because the Do Nothing Dems are taking their marching orders from their Democratic leader (Gail Wall) and Alex Knopp who have publicly spoken against charter revision.

    2. The Ethics Commission has not been appointed again, because the Do Nothing Dems want their political friends on the commission to cover up their unethical behavior.

    The Republicans on the Council are ready willing and able to move forward. Unfortunately this is something the DND do not wish to accomplish.

  • 20 Reasons for Stalling // Apr 28, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    #19 IF the Republicans are so willing, then they need to propose their appointees for both commissions. This would be a challenge to the Dems. Let’s see who proposes their “friends” to serve.

  • 21 Al Raymond // Apr 28, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Put it out to the people with a special election to see if the people want a four year term or even if they want a charter revision commission. I think the mayors term should be as it is.If your the mayor and your doing a good job you`ll get reappointed you have nothing to worrie about on the other hand if you not doing the job the people what you to do then your out.Simple as that do the job you stay don`t do the job your OUT. The President of The U.S. only has a four term and his job is much greater than a mayor not to say that the mayor`s job is not important but we need the flexibilty to make a change quickly if the people feel that is what is needed.It`s not a Rep. or a Dem thing it`s a VOTERS thing we should be able to make this decision with a vote. POWER TO THE PEOPLE

  • 22 Anonymous // Apr 28, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Its taking more effort each term to convince the voters the mayor is at the helm doing well.Its taking more effort to get to photo ops and show the voters he is on the case.Its taking more damage control to convince voters the developers are good for the community.Its taking more time evading news reporters to the problems of the city.Its taking more time to distance yourself from controversy Yes four years is whats needed to put out these fires for another four.

    Only if you double the salary along with the term will we find someone capable of being Norwalks mayor for whats its worth sucking the city dry is what we saw in leadership for the Police schools DPW and many other boards .No one will claim any windfall from their office but their relatives and freinds are making out nicely maybe its ethical maybe its not but what we need is less auctioneers working for the city and more leadership.Give me want I want and I’ll back you next election has to stop the city can’t afford an open checkbook for private interests.

    Be nice next election the people decide what they want and not the the BBB and The Hour.They so far have done a poor job in deciding Norwalks future.

    Blame the council I don’t think so it took this long for our city to fall into crime and disrepair how can you expect first time council memebers to bail us out.I think for the most part we voted to stop the crap from continuing knowing change was going to take time.In the past maybe the council was too fast making decisions now they wait and see who gets pissed off and see who it effects and protects the taxpayer what a novel idea.

    The tide has turned people are losing jobs houses and their sanity while pictures of gingerbread houses litter Norwalks news as if if we are coming out of a recession alone.

    More money for council members is a good start then maybe it will take more effort to stay elected who else wants the job otherwise.Give them some gas at the city pumps to get to the meetings that may help its discounted to the city and would help them out.

  • 23 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2008 at 8:50 am

    Keep a two year term but pay more money to the mayor so qualified people will want to run. If we dont pay more money to the mayor then we will continue to get what we pay for. A mayor thats not working for the residents and one that is working for the out of town developers. We need a big shake up in every department to replace most department heads with new blood. We need a mayor that wants quality of life clean streets, crime free streets, a great school system, and open space for people to enjoy.

  • 24 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2008 at 8:52 am

    Keep a two year term but pay more money to the mayor so qualified people will want to run. We dont need over development, more traffic through residential streets and everything else bad that happens with over development. Norwalk can not handle what it has now.

  • 25 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2008 at 9:38 am

    what about the term for council is three year practical?

  • 26 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2008 at 11:46 am

    No, two for them as well.

  • 27 Ed Gardella // Apr 29, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Hey #25, with a 3 year term they could then stand around with their thumbs up their nose for an extra 12 months. If you can’t get anything done in 24 months what makes anyone think that it will get done in 36, 48, 60 months? This holds true for the Mayors term, it just give the mayor an extra 1 or 2 years to waste time with “Busy Work.” Look at the United States Congress, they could have 20 year terms and they still would not get anything done.

    If the president of the United States is only in for 4 years, what the hell is the Mayor going to do, solve world hunger, make peace in the world, drop gas prices back to 40 cents a gallon, and colonize Mars? With a 4 year term there is a damn good chance the Norwalk can be given completely away to developers by Eminent Domain. There is a good chance that with 4 years to play with, Norwalk can be renamed PoKowalk.

    The mayor thinks that floating the bonds for the developers in a great idea, and if the development tanks it will only cost the taxpayer about $80 a year. I have a problem with that, FIRST $80 a year has a nasty way to turn into $80,000 a year, and has anyone in the damn town ever thought about the taxpayer? Even $80 a year extra burden could turn into the “Straw that broke the Camels back.” Oh! Yes in today’s Advocate it mentioned that Stamford has a huge surplus of office space that is not being rented, so why don’t we just add another million square feet to that empty space list. Things are going to get a lot worse before that get a lot better. Are we loosing our minds bonding developers, they are one of the reasons we are in this national mess.

  • 28 Al Raymond // Apr 29, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Two year term limits for everyone that`s that.

  • 29 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    I would like to see # 27 run for mayor you would get my vote. PoKowalk that was great and to the point and you made alot of sence. Wow someone that thinks running Norwalk could it ever happen.

  • 30 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Seligson has 90% of the property needed for Waypointe and it looks like the City is about to bend over and give him our precious AAA Bond rating so we can take the risk on the money needed and then he’ll pay us back. And to cap off the article in Hour, the last graf mentions the deadly “E” word: Eminent Domain. Didn’t we learn anything from Kelo vs. New London?

    Sorry to be so negative on such a pretty spring day…

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