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Norwalk: Blight Ordinance


by turfgrrl


April 17th, 2008 · 55 Comments

The ordinance committee of the common council is reviewing the idea of a blight ordinance. An interesting idea, but one persons idea of blight can be another’s wild woolly garden. From the Hour:

Lacking evidence that existing city laws don’t address blighted properties, the Common Council’s Ordinance Committee may turn to residents for input.

At issue is whether the city should adopt an anti-blight ordinance, as favored by at least one resident, or if existing health, zoning and building department regulations adequately tackle run-down properties.

On March 28, at the direction of the committee, Assistant Corporation Counsel Linda Guliuzza met with department heads to discuss the matter, according to committee Chairwoman Amanda M. Brown.

“The consensus was the current system works quite well,” Brown said. “However, we will hold a public hearing to get public input. I think the public should be able to influence our decision.”

Brown said the committee first must discuss the recommendations stemming from the March meeting. Brown hopes that will occur later this month. For lack of a quorum, the committee did not meet Tuesday night.

According to Brown, Guliuzza, Chief Building Official William Ireland, Director of Health Timothy J. Callahan, Thomas E. Closter, director of environmental services with the Health Department, and Director of Planning and Zoning Michael B. Greene met on March 28 to talk about blight.

Greene said Wednesday that the planning and zoning department can take action, if a “property becomes so blighted that it, in effect, becomes a junkyard.” Unregistered vehicles littering a property, sfor instance, are not permitted. Also, the city has adopted a regulation limiting tag sales to four per year, so as to “prevent someone from using their yard as a business/storage area which can become blighted.” In some cases, a property becomes so blighted “it becomes a health issue,” Greene said.

“We met and discussed (blight),” Greene said. “We’re not saying there isn’t a problem. We’re just not sure what the magnitude of the problem is. The thought was let’s go to a (public) hearing and see what the magnitude of the problem is. Give us examples of where no department has jurisdiction and, therefore, a new law is needed.”

Property values are beginning to sound an awful like religion these days, with government actions beginning with “in the name of preserving property values…” The troubling aspect of the slippery slope of blight laws is that they lead quickly to the foothills of eminent domain. Or more generically, the breach of property rights. There’s something quintessentially American in the idea that you too can try out for Dancing with the Stars and become a slum lord, not necessarily in that order. Owner occupied blighted properties are not uncommon, and may in fact, be more prevalent, depending on how one runs a survey amongst the neighbours.

Then there’s the practicality of adding yet another nonenforceable law. Think about how sidewalks should be cleaned within 24 hours of a snowfall to understand how daily fines, inspections and enforcement get met. If you’re wondering, they don’t.

A more likely research project should be to see what the potential list of blighted properties is. Holding a public hearing doesn’t exactly produce the scientific based research most likely to yield the ROI of any pursuit of legislation. But a photo list of likely candidates would put the problem into perspective. Worth thinking about.

source: The Hour, City officials ponder ‘blight’ ordinance, April 17, 2008

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  • 1 Diane Cece- // Apr 17, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    A blight ordinance sounds to me like a solution looking for a problem. I agree that photos are best option, and should be managed by the CNNA, the Mayors Neighborhood Preservation Task Force, individual neighborhood associations, or a phone call to one’s council representative:
    Here is excerpt from the 2004 Mayor’s State of the City remarks:
    “First, we will offer a comprehensive protection plan to every neighborhood to attack a wide range of issues including zoning violations, abandoned cars, graffiti, litter, potholes, unsafe traffic conditions and dangerous nuisances. We have forged new tools to use in this comprehensive approach to strengthen neighborhoods: CityScan, which enables neighborhood organizations to use digital photographs to document problems and then turns them into department work orders. Then our Neighborhood Preservation Swat Team consisting of myself, zoning officials, police, traffic, health, fire and other city staff tours the neighborhood with the local organization. Our Mayor’s Neighborhood Preservation Task Force then convenes monthly to review the status of action on each complaint item. We schedule a Saturday Clean-Up Day as well.”

  • 2 Anonymous // Apr 17, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    Sounds a lot like more legislation designed to impinge on a property owners right to use his property as he sees fit.

  • 3 Anonymous // Apr 17, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    Smells like they’re getting ready to condemn 93 East Avenue. Maybe Handrinos is holding Mookie’s feet to the fire. Anyone know how much he contributed to his campaign last year?

  • 4 Anonymous // Apr 17, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Great time to buy 93 East Avenue and save it.. if only someone would step up.

  • 5 Ownership and responsibility // Apr 18, 2008 at 8:56 am

    Anyone notice that the houses on Maple Street (across from the Y) that have been empty and primed for demolition by Seligson for about the same amount of time as 93 East Avenue are not in the same state of deterioration? Hmmmm…must be the climate’s different on East Avenue. Or maybe the area around the Norwalk Inn attracts all those roving vandals. Yeah, right.

  • 6 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 9:21 am

    The Norwalk Inn attracts something, I believe it’s the odor of cronyism, back-room dealing, and opportunism.

  • 7 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Do the Republicans EVER have to pay for ANYTHING at the Norwalk Inn? Or do they just launder their money for them when they’re washing the tablecloths?

  • 8 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 10:01 am

    They have to bring their own knee pads.

  • 9 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Maybe after the bar closes at the Inn, the drunks are given crow bars to let their frustration at the preservationists out on 93 East Avenue. The work is obviously being done after bar hours.

  • 10 ownership and responsibility // Apr 18, 2008 at 10:59 am

    I did hear that a passerby saw someone smash a second floor window, from the inside, and take the satellite dish. This in broad daylight. At the very least, the Inn is being negligent in securing the building.

  • 11 anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Handrinos turned the water back on for about 2 months this winter. The pipes broke and when it thawed the water was left on for about two weeks. It froze and thawed several times, causing a great deal of expansion and cracked marble inside and saturated a lot of the wood, which is now rotten and moldy.

  • 12 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Is the court aware of that? Can anything be done to make him comply with the injunction and take responsibility for the upkeep and maintenance of the building?

  • 13 anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Only if he is dumb enough to admit doing it for that purpose. If he said he turned it on for repair purposes or maintenance and then forgot to turn it off or left it on to destroy the property. Tough to prove intent. Heard termites have infested the building also. Had exterminators doing preventative maintenance for the Inn, but not the house.

  • 14 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    Well, considering what he’s spent on lawyers, we can only hope he’s stupid enough to go shooting his foul mouth off to one of his scumbag buddies…

  • 15 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Alex, that was nasty.

  • 16 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    I see the RATs nest has been poked and the vermin are blogging away today.

  • 17 ownership and responsibility // Apr 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    The frustrating thing about Handrinos is not that he THINKS he’s above the law; he IS above the law. The rest of us schnooks think we can win in court and it matters…

  • 18 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    Getting back to a blighted ordinance, I read in today’s Hour that the city is going to give amnesty to illegal apartments to raise the number of “affordable houing” units. Is that so they don’t have to enforce their zoning laws?

    My neighborhood has been ruined by these illegal apartments, and the transient people who rent them. The tennants change from week to week, and sometimes from day to day in the warm season.

    They have unregistered and uninsured cars, some with the VIN numbers scratched off. They get drunk and loud at all hours of the night and sometimes fight out on the street. The neighbors used to call the police, but they did nothing. No one wants to bother and waste their time trying to get the city to correct the problems anymore.

    Neighborhood leaders have complained to the Mayor at the neighborhood meetings, but he doesn’t give a damn since it does not concern any of his cronies. What can we do to STOP THE MADNESS?

  • 19 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    It was Westport.

  • 20 anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    He is not above the law, but like many, knows how to use the loopholes.

  • 21 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    There is no excuse for illegals not having registed cars, or being allowed to continue the nightly bar and street fights after one too many survesa y tequila and too much time on their hands. The illegal apartments should be made to comply with city ardinance and the Mayor, the Health Inspector and the zoning board should be on top of this. Why should others have to live under these conditions? I am all for illegals getting their citizenship, health insurance, Social Security card, drivers license etc. but lets do it the right way. Landlords that allow this behavior should be fined and made to bring these apartments to code, allow the maximum occupents by law and pay property taxes just like the rest of the town. Unfortunately many of these illegal apartments are in the heart of South Norwalk and the residents are forced to deal with this as if they don’t have enough of their own problems each and every day.

  • 22 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    FOR GOD’S SAKE GIVE IT A REST, WE ARE ALL SICK OF CRIME RANTS. THIS IS A TOPIC ABOUT BLIGHT!

  • 23 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    HUH?

  • 24 nwlk taxpayer // Apr 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    #22-where do you see anything about crime? All of the posts refer to blight, illegal apartments etc. Me thinks you are paranoid! When you speak of blight and illegal apartments etc. this always breeds problems. The taxpayers are the ones to suffer for this and we do have a right to discuss it.

  • 25 Aunt Bertha // Apr 18, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Blight and crime go hand in hand. Which is the cause of the other it is hard to say.

  • 26 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    you could say almost every subject is fueled by crime, including the lack of money to pay for other things that we find enjoyable and recreational.

    Most of the illegal apartments are houses for sale,banks not wanting to do anything to prevent the owners from making it any worse.

    I’m sure the fire dept will be thrilled thats overtime for those poor bastards after getting stiffed by the city will be great once the uncontrolled,un inspected apts have problems.

    One more reason the city has to change its leadership they know what will happen if you turn every area into a slum. They can bulldoze acres and put up a parking garage.The city is being sold for some trinkets and a blanket.

    That is future planning for Norwalk Poco and Spinaker will take care of the rest.Anyone tell them Rich was in the city now. :)

  • 27 Anonymous // Apr 18, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Let me save the spelling, punctuation and grammar challenged dumbo-dufus the trouble of revealing more of his verbal disability:

    Crime, crime, crime, crime, crime,
    crime, crime, crime, crime, crime,
    crime, crime, crime, crime, crime,
    crime, crime, crime, crime, crime,
    crime, crime, crime, crime, crime.

  • 28 Anonymous // Apr 19, 2008 at 2:04 am

    Never about the facts never about the thread always about you sad very sad. :(

  • 29 Anonymous // Apr 19, 2008 at 9:03 am

    Greenpeace or whatever his name is should go. or how about we give him his own thread that no one will read ? call mr. greenpeaces crime thread so we all know to steer clear

  • 30 nwlk taxpayer // Apr 19, 2008 at 9:25 am

    Only those with their heads in the sand want to deter from discussions about what crime will do to the new projects in town. Let me explain that Mr. Greenpeace is not and will not be the only one concerned about the crime in Norwalk. We are spending mllions of upon millions of dollars to revitalize Norwalk but we are not funding our police department so that they are at full capacity to handle the influx of new business and citizens coming into Norwalk. We are however, giving the criminals prime space to commit more atrocoites without the benefit of a fully staffed police department. Whether you want to admit it or not, blight begets crime and crime begets blight so if you want this all to go away then I suggest you look around you and give some support to fully staffing our police department so they can do their job of protecting the rest of us that don’t fall under the blight/crime category.

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