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Norwalk: More On The BOE Budget Committee Meeting


by turfgrrl


February 29th, 2008 · 24 Comments

Today’s Advocate article digs into the details of the BOE budget committee meeting.

A Wednesday night committee meeting started with a heated debate about the merits of adding another central office position.

Board member Bruce Kimmel stressed the recent findings in a consultant’s report. The report, from U.K.-based Cambridge Education, stated that while budget documents contain a lot of information on the district spending, some people are not content with the level of transparency in the budget process.

“We’ve got to get out of our cocoon in this issue,” Kimmel said. “We think it’s OK, and the whole world around us doesn’t.”

Superintendent Salvatore Corda has said the consultants relied on perceptions, which may not be reliable.

“It’s not perception,” Kimmel, a New York City school teacher, shouted at one point during the meeting. “These people are doing their jobs.”

In setting a cap for the city and school district’s operating budget Tuesday night, some Common Council members indicated the district would have crafted a tighter budget if it had a finance director.

Board member Greg Burnett, who has opposed hiring a finance director, said he resented that the budget was being held “hostage” over the issue.

“At this point, I feel there is no reason to believe the (district’s) fiscal responsibilities are being compromised,” Burnett said. “Our budget should not be jeopardized by council members who, in my opinion, have not looked at the issue.”

Kimmel and other board members have said they are concerned that Corda is being stretched too thin with his budgetary responsibilities.

“We pay you good money to figure out what’s wrong with the schools,” board member Jack Chiaramonte said. “I don’t believe you have the qualifications . . . as a financial person.”

Corda responded by saying people are mistaken about his role in the budget. While Corda has experience as a school business administrator, he does not get involved in crafting the Norwalk budget’s mechanics, he said.

Corda said his responsibilities include establishing budget objectives based on instructional goals, making sure the budget’s message is clear and presenting the proposal to the Board of Education, the Common Council and the Board of Estimate and Taxation.

“If the thinking is that if we have a finance director, the role of the superintendent is going to change, it’s not,” Corda said.

Yet, nothing about the authorization to transfer funds. Why is that?

As I pointed out yesterday, the big issue here is why Burnett and Corda are so opposed to having a finance director hired. The role of a finance director will directly impact Opdahl by releasing him from from managing so much money. He could maybe, oh concentrate on stuff his qualifications are suited for. The issue here is that Corda and Burnett don’t want a financial scrutiny of the Norwalk Public Schools. They don’t want basic accounting procedures regarding expense forms, and direct reimbursements to take place. The reality is that Opdahl is a convenient excuse to maintain the opaque shield of no detailed information.

Opdahl should be fired. A finance director should be hired and Corda and Burnett should take greater care to concentrate on maxi mixing educational opportunities for Norwalk’s students.

source:
Advocate, School board considers study on budget chief, By Lisa Chamoff, February 29 2008

Tags: Education · Norwalk

24 Responses so far “Norwalk: More On The BOE Budget Committee Meeting”



  • 1 MGeake // Feb 29, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    As one who is holding their budget hostage — no, wait, I didn’t hold it; I just made the mayor pass it — let me assure Mr. Burnett that I have thoroughly looked at the budget, as well as the qualifications and integrity of the people responsible for it!

  • 2 Anonymous // Feb 29, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    “Superintendent Salvatore Corda has said the consultants relied on perceptions, which may not be reliable.”

    If Salvatore Corda says this, it must be true. Or is that HIS perception, which may not be reliable?

    I am speechless in reading that he said he plays no role in the developing the mechanics of the budget. I am equally speechless in his determining what the role of the superintendent will be. (”‘If the thinking is that if we have a finance director, the role of the superintendent is going to change, it’s not,’ Corda said.” Dr. Corda, you are not self-employed; your employer is the Norwalk Board of Education, and it decides what your job will be, not you.

    Has this situation further deteriorated?

  • 3 Anonymous // Feb 29, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Corda needs to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 4 Anonymous // Feb 29, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Students informed Dr Moore 3 black males Pulled up in a car and told the boys to give them money.One had a gun. This was at West Rocks middle school. This was the handout given our children by Salvatore Corda today. What a lovely city we live is. Why wasn’t it in the papers this morning? Our kids mean nothing anymore for us parents we are told after the fact and no description of the vehicle. We could of been alert this morning .City run by assholes

  • 5 Anonymous // Feb 29, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    When are the parents and taxpayers going to do something about this poor excuse of a principal and superintendant? What time did this happen? Who knew about it? Whats being done about it? these are the questions that need to be asked .No demand answers! These are your kids and you have every right to know all the details. This is a bunch of BS.

  • 6 Anonymous // Feb 29, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    I am weary. Many of the former posters are seldom here anymore, ever since the website changed and people began fearing that their IP addresses were being revealed and that perhaps the superintendent or some other BOE administrator could get hold of them.

    None of this has stopped me because I haven’t committed libel, but Turf, you need to reassure people that they are not in jeopardy. Collectively, we have a lot of information that the public deserves to have, but too many people are fearful.

  • 7 anon // Mar 1, 2008 at 7:29 am

    Now I am TOTALLY confused.

    Quote:

    ‘If the thinking is that if we have a finance director, the role of the superintendent is going to change, it’s not,’ Corda said.

    What is this supposed to mean?

  • 8 Anon432 // Mar 1, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    #6 some of the regulars are still here but under the form of anonymous. We are tired of Corda and the rest of the clowns at central office. My advise to you is to get into your child’s school meet their teachers and ask them what you can do as a parent and taxpayer for your child’s school.

  • 9 Anonymous // Mar 1, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Thank you, Anon432. I prefer seeing the familiar pseudonyms, but I understand people’s concerns about harassment and other forms of retribution. I have been in the position of saying something that someone in central office didn’t like, and I paid a price for it. I didn’t suffer any dire or lasting consequences, but it was annoying. The person in question felt a need to put me into my rightful place. You know something? I didn’t lose my job, nor did I lose professional status, nor did I lose my dignity.

  • 10 For a Change, Something Positive // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:08 am

    I have often written critical postings about the Norwalk central office, but today I’m going to post something positive. In this weekend’s New York Times, there is an article about schools in San Francisco, where students are ashamed to accept free and reduced-price lunches because the way these lunches are provided makes it painfully obvious to onlookers that the students are receiving the free/reduced-price lunch. They even have a separate diningroom, where subsidized lunches are served.

    Several years ago, the Norwalk Public Schools established a debit card system for use in the cafeterias. Students who pay for lunch have the option of using the debit cards or their Personal Identification Numbers (PINs) to debit their pre-paid accounts. Students who receive free or reduced-price lunch use the same debit cards or PINs, and so no one knows if the student has previously put money on his/her account, or if the student is receiving free lunch.

    There was another problem that Norwalk also resolved, and that was the stigma that subsidized lunch students suffered because there was only one type of meal allowed for them, while other students, particularly in the high schools, had many choices. The administration found ways to mix-and-match components of the meals, so that students would be able to get a variety of types of food — as long as the federally-required key types of food were included. I don’t remember everything, but examples might be a fruit juice or milk, a fruit, as well as the main part of the meal, which might even be pizza.

    Norwalk so often does things that I find objectionable, but this is an example of how the district did it right. Yes, some students are still reluctant to apply for subsidized lunch, but the district has done everything reasonable to remove the stigma and to afford everyone good lunches, as well as breakfasts, for those who get to school early enough.

  • 11 Anonymous // Mar 2, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    whether a student recieves substidized lunches or not, they should be allowed to recieve the same food as everyone else. The food is there and should be consumed. It would be a waste of money to have left over food for the sake of separating one group from the other. Some days kids don’t always eat lunch so why would you want to discriminate against those who have subsidized lunches? All kids are the same. Just because some cannot always afford the luxury of a hot lunch doesn’t mean they don’t deserve one.

  • 12 no free lunch for everyone // Mar 2, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    is this russia. we should not be subsidizing whatever food everyone wants all of the time. taxpayers are paying for all of this “free food”. there is no such thing as a free lunch.

  • 13 Anonymous // Mar 2, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Right let’s just have poor kids starve.

  • 14 disgusting! // Mar 2, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    there are guidlines for free lunches and they should be adhered to #12 but no, this is America and we do have children in need of good nutrition. Your comment is rediculous. We can pay for frivolous lawsuits but we can’t feed kids in need? Hope you never find yourself in need and someone tells you this isn’t Russia.

  • 15 anonymous // Mar 2, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    norwalk schools were in fact not adhering to the free lunch guidelines. i pay enough taxes and do not feel like gifting kids whatever they want for lunch. when i went to school they gave kids w/o their lunch peanut butter and jelly. what now, give them surf and turf ? get a grip you tax and spend DEMORAT.

  • 16 nclb // Mar 2, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Wow, what a great post number 15. Not sure where you went to school but I never got peanut butter and jelly. We got hot lunches every day prepared by volunteers(usually mothers of the students)and paid cooks. Everyone got the same lunch and I remeber there was a lunch ticket that some of the kids got. We all ate the same hot lunch whether our parents paid for it or some students had lunch tickets.And that was over 30 years ago. And just to make your statement look that much worse. I am not a tax and spend Democrat but in fact a Republican who for the life of me can’t get a grip on your comments no matter how much I try to look at it from your point of view. Apparently you couldn’t care less if children have a balanced diet and a healthy outlook towards their school day. There are situations where some people live pay check to paycheck and cannot afford the foods the rest of us eat and their kids actually do live on peanut butter and jelly. To be able to provide them with proper nourishment at least during the week is a plus for them. Again, I certainly hope you are never in a situation where you have to ask for help.

  • 17 Anonymous // Mar 2, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    Has anyone questioned the fact some in Norwalk get breakfast? Thats seems like it would be another thread. I know my kids have never had breakfast but I have no problems seeing my tax dollar go to feeding any child for any meal anytime that needs it.I’m to understand if anyone receives a free lunch they are able to get breakfast if their there earlier enough. Clearly when reading some of the posts I can agree with most and agree in part with what #16 just said

    There are situations where some people live pay check to paycheck and cannot afford the foods the rest of us eat and their kids actually do live on peanut butter and jelly. To be able to provide them with proper nourishment at least during the week is a plus for them. Again, I certainly hope you are never in a situation where you have to ask for help.

    Its funny I’m willing to pay more in taxes for things like this if need be as well as public safety.

  • 18 nclb // Mar 2, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    #17, thankfully there are those of us that are willing give when a child must do without unfortunately there are those who look at things a bit differently because they are able to provide for their children. Safety is another thing that is of the utmost importance and we should not look at the small price we pay in order to expect the best of our city when it comes to safety. Feeding a child, whether it be breakfast or lunch or both should not be something we quibble about. A full stomache goes a long way toward a bright mind.

  • 19 Mr Greenpeace // Mar 3, 2008 at 12:42 am

    I agree #18 as I said in #17 I’m willing to pay more for a lot of things so our children have a fighting chance mine or someone elses.Its a shame when we are posting out here we don’t include such things as the Odyssey of The Mind where children get to face off with the best of the best in Ct and honestly we have some great minds who represent Norwalk every year but its usually not mentioned.

    Mr G

  • 20 Anonymous // Mar 3, 2008 at 2:12 am

    No Title I funds for Rowayton Elementary

    But Superintendent of Schools Salvatore J. Corda said his hands are tied because the federal law is clear about which schools can and can’t receive Title I funding.
    To receive Title I funds, the federal law states the percentage of students in a school that qualify for free and reduced must exceed the district average, which is 28.06 percent for Norwalk.

    Rowayton has 114 students out of 493 who qualify for free and reduced lunch, pitting them at 23.12 percent and 25 students lower than the district.

    Other schools that don’t meet the district average , like Fox Run and Cranbury elementary schools, are receiving funds, McGuire said.

    But Corda noted that these schools were not eligible for funding in the 2007-08 school year but will be receiving funds in the 2008-09 school year because they have enough poor students to qualify for aid.

    Currently, there are other four schools that don’t qualify for Title I funds, Corda said. The other four are Fox Run, Cranbury, Columbus and Naramake elementary schools.

    And some funding from the district was given to these schools, as well as Rowayton, to bring in reading specialists for students, Corda said.

  • 21 anonymous // Mar 3, 2008 at 6:07 am

    Why all the discrimination against peanut butter and jelly. It was always a favorite when I was in school and sometimes I still pack it for lunch. Thank god you guys haven’t picked on my fluffernutter sandwiches yet.

  • 22 Anonymous // Mar 3, 2008 at 6:50 am

    Can we get this thread back on track?

    “Corda responded by saying people are mistaken about his role in the budget. While Corda has experience as a school business administrator, he does not get involved in crafting the Norwalk budget’s mechanics, he said.”

    It would be interesting to see what he has said in the past. Didn’t he argue his experience with budgets? Hasn’t he told us he is totally informed about the budget. Doesn’t he present it as his budget? Who is doing the work and what is her background? What are her qualifications? What role does Stu Ophahl have? This should be a warning.

    If we thought Opdahl and Corda were doing the budget we just got our eyes opened by the superintendent. Amazing how many times we get info from Corda that we all ignore. What the heck is he doing? Corda isn’t in the schools. He doesn’t communicate with staff and teachers. We make light of his golf games - but don’t we want to know what he does do? Going to seminars can only take up so much time and if the BOE is focused and tells him what he can and can’t do (they are his boss afterall) then maybe we need to figure out what he is doing and refocus him.

    Let’s stay focused once a thread starts and if there is something else that needs to be discussed, let’s start a separate thread. We are doing exactly what NPS and the BOE tend to do - switch subjects - forget what we were focused on and all that does is punish the education provided to our children.

    How about a thread explaining why CT pays more for jails than education?

  • 23 Anonymous // Mar 3, 2008 at 6:53 am

    “Corda said the opinions of city officials and the public should be included in the assessment. He suggested that at the next budget committee meeting, members decide exactly what the consultant would examine. The proposal would be taken to the full board for a vote.”

    And if he gets the feedback, and doesn’t like what it is, will he simply call it “perception” and ignore it?

    BOE members - please remember who the boss is? You are responsible for his actions. The tax payers are responsible for letting you know what they think about the job you are doing. We only get a chance every 2 years. You get a chance to let Corda know every two weeks at BOE meetings. And his last contract extention and raise don’t really paint a picture of the satisfaction with him. Time for change! Let’s hope you new board members are willing to step up and take responsibility for change.

  • 24 anon // Mar 3, 2008 at 6:59 am

    22 - That is just so confusing. Yes, Corda makes the statement that his job description does NOT include financing. Yet he feels he does NOT need a finance director to work with. Do you not agree that he clearly is stating the need for one?

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