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Norwalk: Krummel Vs Democracy On Ethics Committee


by turfgrrl


February 8th, 2008 · 34 Comments

Today’s Hour previews the looming battle over appointments to the new ethics committee. In short, Bill Krummel says he can’t seem to locate any non-political people, presumably Democrats;

“Anybody who is interested in serving has served on the council or been active in party politics,” Krummel said. Barring past political activity “I don’t think it’s a realistic position and that’s one of the holdups. ”

Kelly Straniti says, “I think that, for both sides, it’s very important that we have people who are nonpolitical. We don’t plan to put up anybody who’s on the Republican Town Committee. We won’t put up any former candidates, campaign managers, etc., of course, either.”

Laurel Lindstrom says, “The whole idea of an ethics board was to take it away from someone who might have a vested interest, and (fill) it with people who are educators, judges, attorneys, faith-based … people who aren’t tied into the political parties.”

Now, it seems that Kelly and Laurel have the right idea about who should be going on the ethics committee. Political flunkies should not be the default choice here, and instead of as Krummel suggests, wait around for resumes to trickle in, the council members should be actively searching out the types of individuals who would make good judges on an ethics panel.

You’d think these guys never heard of the Office of Government Ethics.

source: The Hour, Battle lines drawn in revamped Ethics Committee, By ROBERT KOCH, February 8, 2008

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34 Responses so far “Norwalk: Krummel Vs Democracy On Ethics Committee”


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  • 1 Anonymous // Feb 8, 2008 at 7:45 am

    There have been many non political people who have shown interest in serving but they have never been approached by this committee. Politicians need not apply. Too many conflicts. We need regular citizens who have no ties to those they may be investigating. Get your resume’s to the mayors office and follow up with the committee. We need a non partisan committee.

  • 2 MGeake // Feb 8, 2008 at 8:04 am

    “they have never been approached by this committee”

    What committee, the Common Council???

    The whole purpose of the newspaper article was to tell non-political flunkie types to get their resumes in.

    And TG, remember that it takes 11 votes to confirm an appointment to the Ethics Commission, and there are many — on both sides of the aisle — who will oppose any political types who do apply.

  • 3 turfgrrl // Feb 8, 2008 at 8:54 am

    MGeake: Funny how Krummel couldn’t jump on the non partisan bandwagon of asking for non political flunkies to join the ethics panel. And yes, the 11 (super majority) vote will serve to weed out the crony-istic picks.

    I bet other ethics oriented organizations might be able to make some recomendations too. Hint. Hint.

  • 4 Tom Tom // Feb 8, 2008 at 9:02 am

    Aren’t you on the zoning commission? Do you not portray to be a vehicle to disseminate information? So, Big TG, let me know when we’re talking about conflicts of interest. Hint. Hint. You should resign from the zoning commission.

  • 5 turfgrrl // Feb 8, 2008 at 9:10 am

    Tom Tom: And my ethics conflict is what exactly?
  • 6 Anonymous // Feb 8, 2008 at 9:13 am

    Why should she resign? Just because she has a web site & offers her opition on items? IF YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT YOU ARE READING, GET OFF THE SITE. It is that simple.

  • 7 anon // Feb 8, 2008 at 9:30 am

    MGeake-The ethics committee is not new. It didn’t form with this council. People were asked to submit resume’s long before you were a council person and they were ignored!

  • 8 krummell is wrong // Feb 8, 2008 at 9:53 am

    WHY is krummell picking political FLUNKIES ? he is a horrible LEADER OF HIS STINKIN’ PARTY!!!!!!

  • 9 ARK // Feb 8, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Anon 7 you must be another clueless Repub or Knopp Dem. MGeake is right this ethics Board is new it just took effect in November and it is the first ethics law that does not have Council members on the committee. Resumes were irrelevant before December. The new rules call for a very balanced Board with Dems, Repub and Unaffilated members and the members cannot currently be on any other city board or agency. Getting 11 votes for each member will be tough, but it should work once it is in place. Just don’t let Krummel try to fill it with hacks like Poruban or other Knopp retreds. We need good hororable citizens with no axes to grind. Which means no Historical zealots either.

  • 10 Anonymous // Feb 8, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Hey ARK- I’m neither. I’m one of those who was told about the ethics committee way back in September by one of those putting it together. Don’t always assume you know who people are and don’t always take a negative approach to things. Krummel is clueless and so are a couple others on that committee. Thankfully Kelly is doing the right thing.

  • 11 anonymous // Feb 8, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    bill krummell supports the few political flunkies that are his friends over the interests of 80,000 residents of the city for a city ethics board. this comes from a man that called parts of our city a “ghetto”. makes sense why he said the end of democracy is near. democracy is over in the city as long as he is in office.

  • 12 Get to work! // Feb 8, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    This council needs to get to work and find the appropriate people for this board. Stop looking at party affiliation and start looking for credentials. How about this:
    A Professor of Ethics from a nearby collge
    A Retired Judge from out of town
    A President of the LWV from another town
    A member of the clergy from out of town(sometimes they do teach ethics)
    A former Mayor or Legislator from out town
    A Counselor or psychologist from out of town.

    Remember to mix genders.

    Good choices are out there. Stop looking under your nose and get busy pursuing good candidates from out of town. Get to work!
    After all, past history says that this board may never have to meet. Each year the group should be re-examined and any vacancies filled.
    This is no place for pols.

  • 13 ethics choices // Feb 8, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    why leave town

    Alex Knopp
    Diane Lauricella
    Donnie Sellers
    Peter Wien

    all would fit the bill and live here in Norwalk.

  • 14 ethics choices // Feb 8, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    how about bruce morris for the clergy spot.

  • 15 pssst // Feb 8, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Ok! So …you think this is funny? If you leave it to Bill Krummel thats exactly the slate you’ll get. As far as clergy, if that is our choice I’d prefer to have this committee disbanded..

  • 16 Mr Greenpeace // Feb 8, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    I wonder if they would consider me? :)

    please before I am insulted I don’t come from Norwalk I just pay taxes here and locked into staying here until my probation is up.

    I’m serving a life term as a father, husband and a concerned resident. There have been times I have been told to go out and do something for the community. Too bad most of whom know me could tell you that have met me donating my time to the schools and churches and civic organizations. But that shouldn’t mean anything it just means I’m out there seeing the crime and the injustice upon the good people of Norwalk that have always put their faith in city hall and down.

    I truly hope they find a group who are up to a challenge. I liked this list given already it makes sense.

    A Professor of Ethics from a nearby collge
    A Retired Judge from out of town
    A President of the LWV from another town
    A member of the clergy from out of town(sometimes they do teach ethics)
    A former Mayor or Legislator from out town
    A Counselor or psychologist from out of town.

    Remember to mix genders.

  • 17 Anonymous // Feb 8, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    How about Chris Handrinos? He’s already a member of the Conservation Commission. I am sure he could teach the good people of Norwalk a thing or two about ethics…

  • 18 anonymous // Feb 8, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    How about Galen Wells ? She would be great on the ethics committee.

  • 19 Anonymous // Feb 8, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    Hmm. Not without Nick Kydes.

  • 20 Anonymous // Feb 9, 2008 at 8:07 am

    Hmm. Not without Nick Kydes after he’s been reimbursed $13,000 by the City!

  • 21 Get to work! // Feb 9, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    It would be nice if the council took this more seriously and did its homework. They have had months to come up with categories as I suggested above. Maybe this is not all that important to them.

  • 22 taxpayer // Feb 9, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    Why are we going back in time.

    No black may apply
    No women may apply
    No Irish or Polish or Italian or Greek or American may apply

    This is 2008. No one should be denied the right to apply. The CC will choose the best candidates. Look at the resumes without their party listed.

    Why not utilize both former Mayor Zullo and Esposito. They are both fair minded and experienced.

  • 23 high road // Feb 9, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    Would be interesting to look at resumes without party affiliation, name, or gender. Make it truly a neutral decision based only on background and a letter of the person’s desire to serve/ qualifications. Then have the whole council do interviews of the 10-12 people on the short list. They will then, of course, know who it is…but the selection process to that point would have been neutral.

  • 24 taxpayer // Feb 9, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    High road is correct, that is the way to go.

  • 25 anonymous // Feb 9, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    zullo would be great choice but does too much work in the city.

    espo would be a great statesman on the committee

  • 26 Anonymous // Feb 9, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    I know you all get tired of my interuptions but tonight another handbag theft downtown Sono , we went down to the vibrant Washington st area to show friends what a shithole we have for a city and low and behold it was proven so nicely. we went down to the chocolate shop to purchase some goodies and caught the premier on washington st and it didn’t cost anything. I’m sure once the city gets wind of this crime that happens all the time they may even issue a permit for handbag robberies that would indeed help defray any tax hike. we were not sure but the Haviland parking lot was once again involved by what we saw.We also hope no one got hurt we were told of the crime by onlookers we missed the main act. Thank you for your patience now you can back to your scheduled thread. :)

  • 27 anon // Feb 10, 2008 at 11:05 am

    hold on #13 - What’s wrong with Peter Wien?

  • 28 anonymous // Feb 10, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Peter Wien ? Are you serious. Maybe the bird would make the decisions. Plus, didn’t he move to Oregon ?

  • 29 Anon // Feb 10, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    #28 No such luck…still crazy after all these years…

  • 30 Anonymous // Feb 10, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Maybe A former Norwalk attorney will avoid prison time in a deal arranged after he pleaded guilty yesterday to stealing nearly $90,000 from a client would have some extra time to serve on the
    ethics committee. :)

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