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More Nanny-Statism; Teen Driving Under Attack


by turfgrrl


January 22nd, 2008 · 11 Comments

Nothing riles me more than the continued push towards the infantalism of society. Enough with the reactionary laws bent on shifting responsibility and accountability from individuals to the nebulous governmental behavior police. The Hour leads with the latest focus, on of all things, teen driving. Puh-lease. Bad drivers know no age, and as long as people are encouraged to view a car as a mobile entertainment center instead of merely transportation.

Those polled in the survey conducted by Gov. M. Jodi Rell’s Task Force on Teen Driving supported strengthening teen driving laws, toughening penalties for violations and increasing educational requirements for young drivers under 18-years-old.

The survey was conducted during the first week of January to gauge response to proposed changes to legislation regarding teenage driving, including: Lengthening the duration of the learner’s permit period; restricting the passengers of teen drivers, those under 18, to only parents or guardians; and revoking the license of a 16 or 17 year old found operating a motor vehicle under the influence for no less than a year and requiring that driver to attend a Substance Abuse Training Program.

More than three-quarters of both parents and other adults support increasing the amount of supervised driving required for drivers under the age of 18 before they receive their license.

Those surveyed also supported a longer learner’s permit period (parents 63%, other adults 70%) and a longer period of time when drivers under age 18 cannot carry passengers other than their parents (parents 64%, other adults 68%). They also supported an increase in the minimum age at which a driver may get a learner’s permit (parents – 45.7%, other adults 54.6%) and extending a curfew at night for drivers under 18 (parents 51%, other adults 59%). Drivers under 18 currently cannot drive after midnight.

According to the Task Force driving is the greatest cause of injury and death among teenagers. In Connecticut in 2006, teenager drivers were involved in 50 fatalities.
On Sunday, two teenagers were killed in a crash in Wallingford. Police said that excessive speed played a factor in the accident.

Earlier this month, a Norwalk teen was killed when her car collided with a utility pole on Fillow Street.

The findings of the survey are important, Rell said, because they show that parents and other residents of the state are concerned about teenage driver safety.

“These findings are important because they show that both parents and other members of the public want change in how we deal with our teenage drivers because there have been too many tragedies that tell us that we need to do something more,” Rell said. “Just last week, I proposed tougher drinking and driving laws for teens and this survey shows we need to take more action. It is clear that parents want safety addressed in more ways and that makes sense.”

State Sen. Bob Duff, D-25, said that he supports additional legislation but is concerned about whether or not these proposals can be enforced.

“I think these are all common sense proposals, but I also think it comes down whether or not they can be enforced by local and state police, and, if these change will it have impact on accidents and fatalities,” Duff said. “We passed legislation a few years ago that said that teens under 18 couldn’t drive past midnight or that they could only have certain passengers in the car but some say they don’t pay attention to that because they know it can’t be enforced. These laws basically become mute points without the enforcement.”

State Rep. Chris Perone said that he’d like to see some information as to whether or not legislation like longer learner’s permit periods impacts the future driving of teens.

“The survey is interesting, but I want to know more, particularly about whether there is a real correlation between increased driving supervision and the number of accidents teens are involved in,” Perone said. “If there is then we should make sure these laws are enforced.”

More information on the survey can be found www.ctdrive.blogspot.com

Good thing that State Rep Chris Perone questions the science behind Rell’s proposal.

source: The Hour, Survey: Tougher laws, penalties for teen drivers By Jill Bodach, January 22, 2008

Tags: CT House · CT Senate · Transportation

11 Responses so far “More Nanny-Statism; Teen Driving Under Attack”



  • 1 Jeff Hall // Jan 22, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Whether or not these proposals are good ideas, I can’t see that this is an example of the nanny state. These drivers aren’t adults, and the state would be regulating what these minors do in their cars when their parents can’t be there to supervise them.

    I think many parents would see this as the state supporting them, rather than usurping the role of parents in raising their children.

  • 2 Anon // Jan 22, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Not only that, but check this out. The comment is spot-on.

    http://www.courant.com/news/local/statewire/hc-20130424.apds.m0524.bc-ct–vehijan20,0,1462304.story

  • 3 Anon // Jan 22, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    I think your comments are similar to those short-sighted people opposing government regulation, such as the Bush administration.
    I for one would welcome regulations to protect us from dangerous teen drivers and death by ice falling off of trucks. This is no joke, there have been several near misses with ice breaking through windshields of cars. The truckers lobby will fight this, as they have so long prevented regular regulation by a 7/24 inspection station.

  • 4 turfgrrl // Jan 22, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Regulating cars mechanics and appearance I have absolutely no problems with. Cars shouldn’t be on the road with parts falling off, unsecured cargo, and yes ice and snow not removed.

    Once a driver is licensed however, they are licensed drivers. Make the driving tests harder, retest for driving skills more often, require driving courses for those the that accumulate moving violations and enforce the existing laws.

    The nanny statism creeps in when legislators expect government to replace individual responsibility. Bad drivers exist at all ages, and they are the ones who should be limited in what and when they can drive.

  • 5 Mr Greenpeace // Jan 22, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    The cars the teens had so meticulously souped up and tricked out were crushed Wednesday as part of a crackdown on illegal street racing in Southern California.

    “That’s my heart, my dream,” said Hoang, 18, of Chino, who was surrounded by friends as his 1998 Acura Integra was put into a compactor. “That’s my girlfriend, the love of my life. The cops can crush my car, but they can’t crush my memories.”

    I like this solution before the cars were able to kill someone else simply taking the license away doesn’t always do it but to crush the car on orders from a judge is so simple in combating some of the speed demons.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19339955/

  • 6 Anon // Jan 23, 2008 at 12:57 am

    Age discrimination is permissible with 18 year old voters but not with 80 year old half-blind, half-disabled voters? Should we crush Grandma’s car? A democRAT parodoxical riddle wrapped in an enigma.

  • 7 Cacambo // Jan 23, 2008 at 11:25 am

    “Bad drivers know no age, and as long as people are encouraged to view a car as a mobile entertainment center instead of merely transportation.”

    I’d like to see people view the process of driving as entertaining enough in itself — teen or not — that you don’t have to find other things to do to take your mind of the boring highway and numbness of your vehicle.

  • 8 anon // Jan 23, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    No matter how many laws are made, reckless drivers will eventually be on the road. No matter how many times parents warn their children of the dangers of speeding, drinking and driving… kids will do what they want as there is an underlying feeling of immortality among teenagers (don’t we all remember being that age?).

    I am a parent of 3 children, one is approaching driving age. I feel it is MY responsibiliy to decide if my child is mature enough to handle getting behind a wheel. We have been talking about drivers safety for years. I take every opportunity I have to point out near-accidents or tips on being a safe driver when we are on the road (as my mother did for me when I was that age).
    When I feel she is ready to learn to drive, it would be a shame if she would have to wait (if these laws are passed) to drive due to other parents not taking their own responsibility seriously enough.

    A drivers license is not a right, it is a privilege. Wouldn’t it be great if parents and kids thought of it that way and didn’t blindly run out to get a permit on your child’s 16th birthday just because “everybody else does”.

    Also, keep in mind that the law we have now is constantly broken in regards to the restriction on passengers in the car. I know kids who get their license and have their friends in the car on the same day, and their parents know it. Parents don’t want their kids to seen “nerdy” and make them abide by this rule so they let them go off with their friends. No matter how many “nanny laws” you make, it’s up to the parents to do the right thing but unfortunately they don’t always do that.

    The sad reality is, is that kids have always been in accidents and they always will be. I don’t say that lightly, I have known too many teenagers that have been killed or hurt in car accidents. It is awful. But I really don’t think that any amount of laws will stop these accidents from continuing.

  • 9 Cacambo // Jan 23, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    I think Click and Clack had a recommendation for the teen reckless driving issue: get them a stodgy, used, uncool (but safe) car. Something like a Buick or Toyota Corrolla or rusty Subaru Wagon. Perhaps a VW diesel (no problem with speed or fast pickup there)

    None of their friends will want to ride with them and they’ll drive as little as possible to avoid being seen in it. If you get them a gas guzzler and make them buy their own gas, they won’t be able to drive it very often. That should work.

    Of course, then you put them into the hands of Tia or Tyler who has the keys to Mom’s BMW.

    There’s no easy way to parent.

  • 10 Tera Randall // Jan 23, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Check out this video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_k8GIWUuBY

    Safeco Insurance designed the video to speak to parents about the importance of encouraging responsibility with new teen drivers. Talking to teens about this issue is never easy and there are no perfect laws or rules, but hopefully parents will be inspired to help teens stay safe on the road.

  • 11 Anon // Jan 23, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    Will Safeco produce a video for children of elderly parents designed for the children to instill responsibility in their elderly parents who’s ability to drive is subject to legislative diminution of their driving privileges just because the parents are of a certain age?

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