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Norwalk: Spring Hill Wants Park


by turfgrrl


January 13th, 2008 · 35 Comments

The impact of Stuart Opdahl knows no bounds. Schools have long served as recreation areas for local neighborhoods, and as we look at the Spring Hill requests for a park, we can see the heavy hand of Opdahl incompetence wielding its usual damage. Jefferson school sits in the area, overcrowded, falling apart and much needed in the neighborhood. Yet, it is the Jefferson funds that Opdahl raids to “cover” for his construction shortfalls, and it is Jefferson school that loses its atheletic fields for trailers and tennis courts for parking.

Opdahl, if we all recall, is also the “brilliant mind” that develops enrollemnt projections and staffing needs. I think its safe to conclude that Opdahl has not interest in serving the spring hill community, oh wait, why limit it there, does he actually server any community in Norwalk?

Spring Hill residents are naturally concerned that the City should do something. The City does not own land in the area, and Norwalk Hospital is certainly a big chunk of property ownership in the area. It is odd that there are not rehabilitative walking trails and greenery around the hospital, with the stunning views off the hill overlooking Norwalk, you’d think that hosptial officials would think about that competitive advantage. Or maybe I’m just too influenced by Hollywood, where the hospital always is next to a park.

From the Hour:

As the city and residents work to spruce up Cranbury Park and Veterans Memorial Park, as well as shape Oyster Shell Park into a model “green” park, Spring Hill residents are acutely aware of what they’re lacking.

They say 9,000 people live in their area, including many families with children, who long for a place to play baseball or throw a Frisbee.

The need for a park is exacerbated by the growing number of condominiums in the neighborhood, according to Witkowsky.

Witkowsky isn’t alone in pressing for a park.

Last Wednesday night, Al Raymond, president of the Spring Hill Neighborhood Association, made the case to members of the Common Council’s Recreation, Parks & Cultural Affairs Committee, as the committee held an informational meeting about the future of Veterans Memorial Park in East Norwalk.

“After sitting here for a while, hearing all you people talk about the great park that you have, and the beach that you have, and Cranbury Park that everybody can go to and enjoy, I thought that this would be a great opportunity for me to stand up here and ask for a park in my neighborhood,” Raymond said. “I am very serious. We have 9,000 people that live in our area. We have no park.”

According to Raymond, the last usable open space disappeared when eight portable classrooms displaced the playground at Jefferson Elementary School. A parking lot now stands where basketball and tennis courts once were, he said.

City officials acknowledge the need for a park in the Spring Hill neighborhood.

Creating such a park, however, is easier said than done. The lack of available land poses the greatest challenge.

“I’ve talked to Al about that and, quite honestly, if people want a stop sign, we can accommodate that,” said Mayor Richard A. Moccia. “But where do I come up with a park? You just don’t manufacture land.”

Moccia said the city will not turn to eminent domain to create a park.

Raymond expressed hope Wednesday night that Norwalk Hospital might have land available.

Excluding the hospital itself, Norwalk Hospital Association owns more than a dozen parcels totaling roughly a half-dozen acres on Truman, Stevens and Maple streets, as well as Magnolia Avenue and Rhodonolia.

The parcels are home to houses, condominiums and medical facilities, according to the tax assessor’s office.

At this point, however, the hospital cannot part with any of the land, according to hospital officials.

“The hospital values the partnership we have with the Spring Hill Neighborhood/Norwalk Hospital area association,” said Maura Romaine, hospital spokeswoman. “However, the hospital does not have any land that is available for a park.”

source: The Hour, Spring Hill residents: We want a park, By ROBERT KOCH, January 12, 2008

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  • 1 Anonymous // Jan 13, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Spring HIll deserves a park no question. THey need to get super bitch to get the job done, Diane Palladino knows how to keep the press alive. She did it with Stuart Avenue and it still comes up today; I suggest Mr. Raymond calls her in to throw around some facts and stir up some controversey. WIth his strong will and her outspoken enthusiasm to get the job done Spring Hill will have every elected official in Norwalk digging the ground work for a new park. Not to mention she knows how to push all the buttons, left and right. Raymond and Palladino will make a great team and will get that park.

  • 2 Mike Mushak // Jan 13, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Al Raymond of Spring Hill,
    My prayers are with you.

    I believe the city did give you a park a couple of years ago-that traffic circle they made for you with 6 inches of dirt on top of asphalt at the top of Stuart Avenue! It was a fun challenge to help you fix it, with those private anonymous funds donated by one of your local residents.

    I’ll put on the old thinking cap. You offer up another challenge yet again!

  • 3 Mike Mushak // Jan 14, 2008 at 12:00 am

    TG, your idea of a Spring Hill Park next to Norwalk Hospital is a great idea.

    What a great gift to the neighborhood from the hospital. It could be a roughly one-acre passive recreational “green roof” over a below-grade parking garage (which the hospital always needs more of), and provide a healing garden along with a small barrier-free adventure playground and lushly planted lawn areas and fountains, with benches and tables for patients and their families, staff, and neighbors to relax or have lunch, and a food concession with small outdoor cafe. A full- time security guard provided by the hospital would maintain order by enforcing a list of posted rules, and maintenance would also be handled by the hospital.

    Hundreds of hospitals across the country have both private and public healing gardens that are well-proven by healthcare professionals and many published studies to be therapeutically beneficial.
    At healinglandscapes.org, a therapeutic landscapes database lists hundreds of hospital healing gardens built mostly in the last 10 years.

    I designed and built a healing garden 4 years ago behind St. Paul’s on the Green on East Ave., with a labyrinth surrounded by a lush butterfly garden, and quiet benches facing signs with healing quotes for meditation. The quotes I chose with a church deacon are both serious and biblical and light-hearted and humorous. I even included one by Dolly Parton; “If you want the rainbow you gotta put up with the rain”.
    The garden is open to the public everyday during daylight hours.

  • 4 Anonymous // Jan 14, 2008 at 1:45 am

    A full- time security guard provided by the hospital would maintain order by enforcing a list of posted rules, and maintenance would also be handled by the hospital.

    I thought parks maintain there own peace .

    You have to be kidding the crime alone in the ER has prompted questions that there is too little secrurity on as it is. The amount of free care and illegals taking advantage of the system has hit all time highs ever read the Hour and its problems with recouping lost revenue? You do read the news correct?

    Is there anything else you want to suggest to simply hurt the city any more than whats going on please get it out now so we can completely discount your genuine concern and replace it with lack of whats going on in todays world?

    Your ideas are great, but do you ever look into the whole picture? I’m sure your on to something great but do you really think the hospital is in any position to jump on an idea when they are faced with everyday concerns that effect the entire hospital. You don’t think where a ciy this size is coming under financial restrictions and budget shortfalls the hospital doesn’t have the same kind of budget and costs that we as a city have ? Hospitals are very competitive look and Danbury, St Vincents, Stamford ect, one project one wing one special unit gets done the next one is starting to what generate income and serve the city at a medical consistancy level.

    Do you know how many security personal we have at the hospital? Do you have any idea how mnay rigs we have on the road and how many more would be ideal? How many Emts and staff numbers there are? Any idea how many incidents this year alone have taken place that demands the additional assistance from the Norwalk police to respond the the Norwalk Hospital or the walk in on Water street?

    You say full time security gaurd this alone tells us once again law enforcement was never your forte I would want to say a minimum of 9 maybe more positions to maintain a site like what your proposing along with maintaining a site like this.

    lets make the parking garage higher for such a place where when landing a medivac give them another spot to land in case of trouble, or simply give the ER something else to plan on in case there is a high wind that day and something happens .the idea of such facililities is to minimize the amount of people at a pad for safety or around a hospital I would think.

    The places you suggest all have pads?

    It is odd that there are not rehabilitative walking trails and greenery around the hospital I think security around a hospital is more important than having some perp use cover to do his thing.

    TB hospitals had walking trails and pools to expose a pt to sunlight that was the best RX. Today a pt stay is minimum most have rehabs off site to rehabilitate its not cost effective to have a hotel they are there to treat and stabilize the pt’s an get them out to open up another bed.

    There are respiratory facilities where pt’s go and recoup or be treated its not cost effective to wine and dine and give them a bocce court to preocupy their stay with .(Bocce is played on soil, oyster shell or asphalt courts) we have oysters don’t we?

    Good luck selling this one I guess the pie in the sky is just cherry to you.

  • 5 Anonymous // Jan 14, 2008 at 2:23 am

    Crime prevention in hospitals must always focus on the need to preserve essential healthcare facilities and provide a safe environment for staff and visitors. These are daunting responsibilities, particularly for organisations struggling to maintain essential public services with finite resources and it is understandable that decisions about security spending can present difficult choices, reports Kay Wright of the British Security Industry Association

    A central element in a hospital’s crime risk is the presence of large, transient populations, which makes it difficult in most cases to control access and identify trespassers. This basic vulnerability combines with several other factors, such as the possession of large amounts of property attractive to thieves and often emotionally charged conditions, to greatly enhance the risks of dishonesty and personal violence. The total impact of these circumstances is impossible to quantify, since a lot of crime in hospitals goes unreported. The fact that stolen property is disposable and not always easily accounted for is one reason for this.

    Some general statistics are available. It has been estimated that crime costs the NHS more than £1 million every week and the principal employees union, Unison, has said that almost nine out of ten health service staff worry about violence at work. Nurses are among the most at risk categories, facing the highest risk of violence of any occupational group except police officers. This high level of vulnerability also applies to lone health service workers making home visits, indicating the need to extend security planning beyond the immediate hospital environment

    Each of these threats can be significantly reduced by the intelligent use of security procedures, manpower and technology. It is important to understand that the physical design of hospital premises has an influence on the prevalence of crime. Sometimes it is possible to reduce crime by altering these so-called situational factors. A simple example of this can be found in many older hospitals, where outdated car parking provision frequently results in a proliferation of small, isolated parking areas which are virtually impossible to protect cost-effectively. Not surprisingly, the opportunity to work unobserved and with little risk of interruption attracts thieves, as well as posing particular risks to drivers parking at night in remote parts of the grounds. Several hospitals have now addressed this problem by changing the use of available land to provide fewer, larger parking areas that can be protected cost-effectively by the combined use of lighting, security patrolling and modern closed-circuit television (CCTV) surveillance systems.

    Although it is not always practical to alter the situational factors that contribute to crime, an understanding of their impact is always a key factor in good security planning. Studies have shown a marked statistical relationship between the prevalence of crime and different physical situations. One example of this is found in places where people can legitimately be present en-route to other destinations within a hospital. The key to this problem is that because the presence of strangers is not unusual, it is not questioned by members of staff. One American survey showed that nearly 80 per cent of thefts took place in such areas, as opposed to ‘cul-de-sacs’ or departments where access was controlled. Although it is impossible to eliminate circulation areas in a hospital environment, its is clear that a careful survey can ensure that access control, surveillance and security manpower resources are deployed there in a well-targeted and cost-effective way

    Mybe some hospitals don’t want a lot of people hanging around after all.

  • 6 Anonymous // Jan 14, 2008 at 2:25 am

    Most healing gardens are inside and not on rooftops or are only for hospital use.

  • 7 Anonymous // Jan 14, 2008 at 2:34 am

    Security must be holistic in its design. There should be a balance among g security design, security equipment, security personnel, and interactive human factors. A Security Consultant who has expertise in the application of CPTED principles can be very cost beneficial to any hospital. Today, when even the choice of landscaping can be of crucial importance to the overall success of the facility’s security design, a knowledgeable CPTED-qualified security professional can be very helpful. Landscaping can affect the way patients and employees feel about where they are required to park. Landscaping can have a direct impact on the use and effectiveness of exterior lighting. The improper use of trees and shrubs may inadvertently provide cover for criminal behavior. The result will be the maintenance of a user-friendly, attractive environment without sacrificing those important feature that ensure security for the facility, the assets, and all people.

    enough said

  • 8 Anonymous // Jan 14, 2008 at 2:52 am

    Remember, when it comes to security, the line between perception and reality is often blurred. It is very important that perception and reality become one and the same. This is extremely important from a risk management perspective. For example, if reality indicates the security program is good while the prevailing perception is that the program is poor, subsequent security incidents are much more likely to produce litigation. It is important that the overall security program is up to standard, and that most patients, visitors and employees believe they are in a safe and secure environment. The ability to tie the disparate components of a security program together. has the best chance to influence perception.

    this kinda fits lot of the suggestions lately sorry but it was worth posting.

    from icy roads and parking garage injuries to how the mayor works the city and the size of the police force all have some sort of application to this statement I would say.

  • 9 Al Raymond // Jan 14, 2008 at 9:57 am

    Mike
    The truth be known,the city has given Spring Hill Area NOTHING including co-operation as demanstrated by the 6 inches of planting space you mention and if it were`t for the extreme generosity and kindness of our anonymus FRIEND it would still be just that. Your masterful talent has given us HOPE and PRIDE. We have the most beautiful adopt a spot (park) in Norwalk. We just can`t play baseball there. Thanks for your concern and your thoughts and look forward to pressing any idea`s you or anyone else may have.
    Desperate for park space
    (Al Raynond)

  • 10 Anonymous // Jan 14, 2008 at 11:00 am

    Why does this area have so many cars parked on the side of the roads it looks so bad and makes nowrwalk look like new york. Work on that issue as I drive around i see empty drivways and cars all over the street this results in many hazzards for walking driving and stow removal. Part of the problem is you can make your two family houe a five family house but something has to give it looks bad.

  • 11 Anonymous // Jan 14, 2008 at 11:24 am

    morning Al, don’t get me wrong because I point out security and common sense I still would like to see the city get behind you and everyone else that needs a park there We need to change the planners and powers to be who think they know what the city wants and replace them with officials with insight and common sense,

    The line between perception and reality is often blurred

    Fix this and Norwalk will be on the move one more time.

  • 12 Al Raymond // Jan 14, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Anonymous #10
    Overdevelopment is the answer, If they continue to develop this area things will only get worse. Our schools are over crowded our roads are heavely used as a short cut to get off CT Ave. Condo`s and multiy family housing are part of the problem but changing zoning rules can help to fix it. If we had open space maybe thing`s wouldn`t look so bad.So please come to our monthly meetings at the libary the 3rd Monday of every month at 7:30 pm and help us make Norwalk a better place to live.
    Al

  • 13 Anonymous // Jan 14, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Al so your talking the 20th of this month correct?

    In the meantime can you tell us what streets need to be observed or single out cars with no plates or expired tags we know have one police officer who leaves the station with two voilation books he is so good and also frequents this site. We have help on the way but undertstand its not the elected officials that are doing the work its the grunts trying to make the city better.

    let us understand what needs to be cleaned up I’m not from that area but you can list anything out here we will at least get an idea what you have for problems. I’ll share with you what we have in my area for problems later. last year we had a car with a flat tire that had been there for two years according to the inspection sticker and had it removed but not without a circus and ring leader mentality first.

    take a vin number and put it out here I’m sure someone will run it for you we do have help on the way trsut me.If its stolen it gets the hook right away. Email the problems to the site below from the library they will listen but they have to be told first.

    http://www.norwalkpd.com/

  • 14 Al Raymond // Jan 14, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Anonymous #13
    Our next meeting is Monday the 21st Hope to see you there.

  • 15 Mr. tired of parked cars too // Jan 14, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    It is never the elected officials that get anything fixed for sure it is with out a doubt the neighborhood groups. I sat at the springhill meeting many times and many streets were named with parked cars every where and empty drivways, looking at some past minutes a see leuvine, girard, grand view, dover, it looks awful its dangerous but its due to to many multi family houses and a norwalk and the laxed zoning laws. Our lack of zoning regulations will turn norwalk into the worst place to live with in 5 years because it will never change. To make changes someone in city hall would have to work and that wont happen. City hall works for the out of town developers that would never live in norwalk because its to over crowded now. They want to come home to quiet peaceful place where they have open space around them no-one living arms length away from them and where quality of life come before tax dollars. Lets over build some more we could only go down from here. See you at the meeting.

  • 16 Al Raymond // Jan 15, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Sorry, our next meeting will be Tuesday the 22th I just got word the library is closed on Monday

  • 17 Anonymous // Jan 15, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    thanks Al 22, Flax Hill park has been locked due to gang related activities and spray painting artists.The call was made on a suggestion to the parks and rec dept on why the lockout preventing mothers and fathers with their children to driving there and enjoying the last couple of great days. It was suggested if you find a spot on the hill we can move it there for you.

    aside from the humor its a shame we talk adding some recreation and you read its taken away somewhere else becuase of the invisible crime Norwalk suffers. To add to that sadness we have others who actually think they have a pulse on Norwalks future and present conditions.

    I do agree with your take on whats going on in Norwalk maybe your meeting can address with someone from parks the problems they are having now at Flax Hill and come up with a solution planning is everthing that seems to lack in Norwalk.

  • 18 caregiver // Jan 15, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    would someone please check Anonymous’s medication (aka Mr Greenpeace). He seems to be having a schizoid meltdown. now he says planning is everything. yesterday he said plans were useless. a day on this blog without him would be like a day of sunshine. does anyone know him to check in on him and make sure he’s OK?

  • 19 Anonymous // Jan 15, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Maybe he can check himself into 166 Glover ave maybe there he can enjoy a healing park.

  • 20 Anonymous // Jan 15, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Thats it can’t find anything to say to help the situation so lets just ignore the fact there are others who can read and understand what others are saying. Sounds like someone simply pissed somebody off.Has anyone asked Stamford hospital if they had any land for a park or is that a stretch in the wrong direction? I thought the thread was about finding a place for a park.

  • 21 Maribeth Becker // Jan 15, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    I just wanted to clarify that the meeting Al mentioned above that will be taking place on Tuesday 1/22 is the Spring Hill Hospital Association meeting. Al is currently president of that association and as you all know he has been working tirelessly to improve the quality of life for residents in his neighborhood.

    Al is one of many neighborhood leaders throughout the city who work to improve their neighborhoods. We come together once a month as a coalition of neighborhood associations (CNNA) to talk about issues of common interest and concern. We share information and work together on solutions - involving the appropriate city staff and officials as needed.

    Our next meeting will be held on Monday January 28th at 7:30 in room A322 of City Hall. We will be joined by representatives of the city’s Planning and Zoning staff/commission who (among other topics) will update us on the status of various development projects throughout the city.

    It’s a great opportunity to become part of the solution. You do not have to be part of a neighborhood association to attend. New neighborhood groups often form as issues and need arise. We can help you link up with an existing group or create a new one.

    This blog shows that there are so many people who care deeply about this great city. Please join your neighbors and get involved!!

    I hope to see you - if not this month, then maybe next. We meet the 4th Monday of every month at 7:30 in room A322.

    If you have any questions, please contact me directly at mbbecker@att.net or 853-0764.

  • 22 Anonymous // Jan 21, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    Crime prevention in hospitals must always focus on the need to preserve essential healthcare facilities and provide a safe environment for staff and visitors. These are daunting responsibilities, particularly for organisations struggling to maintain essential public services with finite resources and it is understandable that decisions about security spending can present difficult choices, reports Kay Wright of the British Security Industry Association.

    This was posted 7 days ago when we were talking about what it is the city could do for a park it was also suggested security should be considered when planning.

    Would the Stamford Hospital give Norwalk some added security if they were to set up shop in the area we could use some from what I gather.

    Having a safe area should be everyones concern as well. Al and Maribeth and anyone else who live in the area should have safe area in the city like anyone else so i hope we are able to provide that for them while they work for a better neighborhood.

    anyone?

  • 23 Anonymous // Jan 23, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    A motorist’s report Monday of being confronted on Maple Street by a group of youths, one brandishing a handgun. This was reported by Cobin from the Hour in today’s edition.Is there anything we as a city we can do to help out folks on the Hill? Seems if we ignore this we ignore crime and safety around our Hospital. It may of been random this is not out of control mayem but to hear the passion of residents who work hard and do what they can to improve the area things like this simply gives us something to think about.

    It does once again points to what we need to do to improve visibility of our police force and not continue to overlook where the city could go if we don’t do simple things like hire more police.

    What does one think when reading this? Was the rest of the city protected while every cruiser in the city was there chasing down a handgun on the Hill?

    “This blog shows that there are so many people who care deeply about this great city. Please join your neighbors and get involved!!”

    Isn’t it time? What transpired at the meeting last night is there anything we can do or start to think about ways we can help the association?

  • 24 Anonymous // Jan 23, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Again, youths are involved in crimes. The neighborhood associations should also get involved in the newly forming citywide NNHT (Norwalk Neighbors helping our teens)With effort from around the city maybe, just maybe we can start working towards better neighborhoods, less crime and an understanding of Norwalk teens and how we can help them.

  • 25 Anonymous // Jan 23, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    I agree #24 its a start, even thou our quest is for more police if we don’t reach out and accept other ideas it will be like some of our officials ineffective in trying to cope with the problems at hand.Trusting it will go away is not an option anymore. The email addy or website is? on NNHT?

  • 26 Anonymous // Jan 23, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    Norwalk: Media, Murder and Mayhem is where I saw the information.

  • 27 Al Raymond // Jan 23, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    I also agree with #24 that is why I offered any assistance to Joanne Romano.We as a neighborhood association are VERY concerned about crime and safety in our neighborhood. It`s a quality of life issue for us, they just keep overdeveloping, and our area gets more and more congested with cars,people,crime.The site for NNHT is mimijo52@yahoo.com if there is anyone out there that would like to get involved Joanne Romano is the contact that I know.

  • 28 Joanne // Jan 23, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Thanks Al. The purpose of NNHT is
    Neighbors helping teens. We want this to be a continued effort that will not go by the wayside bvecause there is a decline in activity. We want to be an integral part of all neighborhoods because the problems with teens extends beyond those of gangs.

    We feel that many organizations have been started and then seem to disapear when people lose interest or we don’t hear about problems of great magnittudes. This is why we are putting together a group of parents, students, teacher, concerned adults and hopefully city officials that are open to listening and acting upon the needs of our teens. While I have no children nor grandchildren in Norwalk, I am aware of the many problems that exist and am more than willing to take whatever measures are needed to show teens that we really are listening and we really want to help them.

    By holding meetings in all neighborhoods, it will allow for parents to become involved where normally they would not be able to. Parents and teachers as well as students are our best resource for information and suggestions and open dialog amoung these groups is an impotant step in helping teens move in the right direction.

    As soon as we have our organizational meeting I will be developing a website where information about meetings, new developments etc. will be posted.

  • 29 Count me in // Jan 23, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Looks like this is a well thought out endevour and worth getting involved in. I hope others on this blog are getting onboard as well.

  • 30 Anonymous // Jan 24, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Does anyone know when the organizational meeting is? I would like to attend. I think this is great.

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