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Hybrid Politics The New Thing


by turfgrrl


January 12th, 2008 · 36 Comments

The Hour unleashed an article about presidential politics and yours truly, and so today I get to tackle an introspective about politics and myself. In the years since I took up blogging about politics, I’ve discovered that there was more interest in what political affiliation I was registered as, than where my political leanings really were. I’ve found that at times amusing, but often disheartening. For me at least, I can understand that maybe in the 1950’s when organizational partyesque activities were at their peak, party affiliation actually meant something. But it’s 2008, and the majority party in American politics is the unaffiliated or non-committed voter.

These days it is easy to see why there is such a great movement away from party politics. Political issues have grown beyond the basic concepts of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness and into the bureaucratic implementation of policy. Put another way, if we had a group of guys holed up in Philadelphia drafting a new constitution, there’d be protests over who was being excluded and the constitution would be about 265 pages long. We don’t have to imagine this scenario, but a look across the pond to the EU constitution, it is an illustrative example. Ask not indeed.

Free agency changed the game of football, and combined with fantasy leagues, changed the way many fans view the game. And so it goes for politics for me. While the parties drifted towards idealistic rhetoric, I started looking at performance and stats. Not quite the stats most people look to in the political sphere, but a rather simple concept — how someone got to a decision point was perhaps more important than what the decision point turned out to be.

Which means that I don’t believe in an idealistic alignment of issues between the politicians I like, respect and support. On my political bandwagon there’s room for the many slices of interests and issues that I care about. I admire the politicians that ask questions and listen to all sides of an issue before making a decision and have no tolerance for those that don’t and rely on others to make decisions for them.

For the presidential race this year, I spent some time studying the candidates, what they said who they brought on board as advisors. The federal government in this country is broken in so many ways. I’ve always been a big believer in a smaller, leaner, more efficient government, which means I seek out politicians who have a love of country and a passion for mastering the levers of political process. I came to support Hillary Clinton because of the extraordinary level of detail and grasp of issues she has mastered. I have no doubts that when it comes to implanting change, Hillary will be the one who will know where and how to get it done. But this is not just my opinion. The foreign policy wonks that I read, are saying the same things, as this observation by Steve Clemmons indicates:

That said, there is a great deal I do admire in Hillary Clinton — and one of the things that simply can’t be disputed is her work ethic. I’ve met her a number of times, usually at receptions — and each time I decided not to waste the moment with trivial banter but to throw an idea at her or mention a person or issue that would help me understand how real, how informed, or alternatively — how contrived — she was.

Every single time she jumped on the issue I brought up and expressed two or three dimensions to the issue that showed she was deeply steeped in this or that policy. In my New America Foundation role, I helped build and support programs as diverse as debates about genetic scientific advancements to family work issues, health care, and wireless spectrum — not to mention my own core interests in foreign policy, national security/defense issues, and international economic policy. Hillary Clinton and I have had quick encounters that involved her sharing incredibly diverse and serious policy commentary.
The last time I had such a discussion with her was after she had won her last Senate race in New York, and she and Bill Clinton were a bit early to a UN Foundation reception honoring Muhammad Yunus. We had a really interesting discussion about what should be on a roster of 21st century threats and how our national security and foreign policy resources should be reorganized to deal with future challenges rather than keeping vested interests tied to old threats well funded. Her quick grasp of what I was trying to get at — and a detailed response that was serious and level-headed — really surprised me as I’m used to politicians who typically have to fake their way through detail.

Steve Clemmons writes some of the best analysis of foreign policy on the Internet. The issues that confront America from a global perspective are not simply reliant on a simplistic characterization of change, but require a detailed level of understanding regarding cultural, diplomatic and economic details that can’t be glossed over by rhetoric. We’ve had 8 years of faith based foreign policy ideology, and what we need now, more than ever, is a return to policy incrementalism that achieves results.

Domestically, the weak dollar, weakened financial markets and regulatory institutions have to be addressed quickly. Science based policy in many of our government agencies needs to be restored. It’s not enough to simply identify the problems, it’s important to identify solutions and measure their successes. Throughout Hillary’s legislative career, she has followed such a process.

From Teddy Roosevelt to Ronald Reagan, the list of presidents I’ve long admired share a similar trait in that they eschewed the idea that any one political party reflects the totality of political philosophy. While some may place partisanship above all else, I like to think that my hybrid political positions is the truer nature of where most people are.

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  • 1 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 11:08 am

    Well Turf, this should be an eye opener for those on this blog who have accused you of partisan politics. Although I may not agree with your choice, I agree with your decision to choose who you as an individual feels best serves your interests and needs as an American. I hope everyone takes a good look at the candidates and disects their messages and their agenda’s and that they make educated votes and not party line votes as we all too often see in local elections. Voting across the party line is a thing of the past and it is a well served country that votes their true beliefs and not those of the status quo.

  • 2 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Turffie is just full of surprises.

  • 3 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    So isn’t Norwalk full of surprises , writing cryptic is for many reasons, I guess when the news unfold about last night maybe the safety of the city will be a subject most like to shy away from or ignore it.

    Yes the demands placed on the city are numerous and the funding of all of them isn’t realistically possible.

    what about the quality of life , or simply what about a life whats its worth ? Stretching our police dept thin creates problems last night may have been another example.

    back to the thread

    I’m glad to see Madeline Fulbright on board with Hillary she is also a favorite of mine. I’m sure everyone on the vineyard is equally pleased she is doing so well.

  • 4 # 1 of the Saintly 25 // Jan 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    I just read something that if it was not taken so serious would be a great skit on SNL. A prisoner in a state penitentiary, tried to scale a 60 foot cement wall surrounding the prison, by using some kind of sheet or something for a rope. Half way up it broke and he fell breaking is leg. HE IS NOW SUING the state for making it too easy for him to attempt an escape. The court has agreed to hear the case.

    We truly are doomed as a civilization.

  • 5 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    Read about the murder that happened last night here in Norwalk in the Ct post,ask why they found the body this morning? another sad day in Norwalk isn’t it? Surprisingly enough this won’t be taken seriously as well while Norwalk is on the move.This murder was surrounded by what 3 stabbings as well so guns are not the only problem are they?

  • 6 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    The New York senator, who hopes to become the Democratic nominee in the November election, proposed $30 billion to help low-income families hit by the mortgage crisis and $40 billion in other spending, mainly for the poor and unemployed.

    Moccia added that, so far, Norwalk has been relatively sheltered from the economic calamity that has impacted many parts of the country

    Go Hillary she may be our only hope for our own calamity of things to come.

  • 7 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    We need more police on the streets plain and simple. We have a surplus, put it to good use. There is a crime problem in Norwalk everyone. Its not going away any time soon if we keep spreading our people thin. We can’t with good concience sit back and do nothing. We’ve got to get more law enforcement and we have to do it now. There was crime all over the city last night and how many officers?

  • 8 anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    TG you are dead on. We need national, state, and local leadership that places values on results and solutions. It is unfortunate that more people do not place an emphasis on those as well.

  • 9 npdsupporter // Jan 12, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    That was one of the problems #7 we had twice the amount of officers on than usual, they kept the previous shift over , had additional help from outside agencies and still we had more than one incident that seemed to leave the city in peril.

    Last time we had a murder(xmas) same thing it was during shift change and if that was not the case the city would of been again at the hands of the crimminals.We are not reading this stuff from our reporters or our councilmen and woman I trust they havn’t got a clue if they has we would of heard from them they can’t be that out of touch with reality if they knew and didn’t speak up or are they?

    I also think the men on the dept are not getting help , you may find again one cruiser brought an injured into the ER on their own and couldn’t wait for an ambulance , no one seems to be in the NPD corner thank god no one is blaming them they are working way to hard to get sh@t upon at this point bu the residents of the mayor.

    Bout time for him to show, he has mayors conferance soon he needs to make a big splash and can’t afford to look like the idiot he does with most of us when he goes.

  • 10 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    By HAROLD F. COBIN
    Hour Correspondent

    Police are investigating whether the stabbing death of a man whose body was found Saturday morning behind a McDonald’s restaurant on Main Avenue is connected to a disturbance that occurred around the corner Friday night on Lindenwoods Road, during which two other young males were stabbed.

    Police were called to Lindenwoods Road twice Friday night on complaints of noise from a party in a residence. Officers were at that house at around 11:15 p.m. when someone fired a gun and the two were stabbed

  • 11 Norwalk Taxpayer // Jan 12, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    Turf, stunning move. I’m sure the local Dems will be welcoming you with open arms, not. Does this mean a challenge to Bruce Morris is in the near term?

  • 12 Rod Sterling Doesn't even beleive THIS // Jan 12, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    I can see it now… Jackie standing shoulder to shoulder with Alex, Galen and cuzin’ Brucie… Don’t look, but white is black, up is down, good is evil, 1 PLUS 2 = 5, republican is democrat….Do not panic..you entered another demension, A demension of sound, a demension of sight, a demension of (out of your) mind, your moving into a land of both shadow & substance of things & ideas… you’ve just crossed over into

    tHe tWiLgHt ZoNe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

  • 13 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    I’m sure in 22 months the voters will have a new outlook on things and realize who did what , how and when this next time around.

    fool me once fool me twice who would want to be republican once the smoke clears look at what we have now.

    http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/youtube/bushfoolme.htm

  • 14 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    If dollars alone explain election victories, Republican Mayor Richard A. Moccia clearly had the advantage over Democratic challenger Walter O. Briggs in last year’s mayoral race.

    It wasn’t street smarts that did it.

    he fooled them once he fooled them twice I’d say

    It basically went well. We did just about we wanted to do,” Moccia said Friday

    Rule Norwalk and give out the other half of the city.

    as a police commish he certainly has lost accountability hasn’t he?

  • 15 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Saddest day in my life is today after reading this.

  • 16 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    I don’t think he ever had it.

  • 17 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    The norwalk hour = yesterdays news tomorrow. “Norwalk crime stats say we are doing better.” Better than what, who is kidding who?

  • 18 Ripley Too! // Jan 12, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    I called Ripley’s Beleive It or Not and I told them the DTC would expell Bondi, Coffey & Hilliard, their most popular vote getters..and they listened …
    I told them Kevin Pouruben is Lou Costello re-incarnated..and they listened..
    I told them Krummel is a stellar beacon of bipartisanship..and they listened..
    I told them Veto Moccia is Dick’s evil twin brother..and they listened..
    I told them Aunt Bertha is really a guy named Louie…and they listened
    I told them the Miserable 25 are really the “Pissed off 7.2″ and they listened…
    I told them Mr. Greenpeace is not green, doesn’t really want any peace and isn’t even a mister..and they listened
    I told’em McQuaid is REALLY a Rock Star..and they listened
    I told them Ms. Straniti has the largest pump shoe collection in the world..and they listened..
    I even told them Galen is a Hottie..and they listened!
    Then I told them Turfgrrl became a Dem and would help Hillary…SILENCE..Then… Hysterical Screaming Laughter Before I heard a Mighty “CLICK”…

    Not Even Ripley saw this coming….Sssiigghhh!

  • 19 anon // Jan 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    TG, I just don’t understand how you can support Dick Moccia. There is no way that he brings anything to the table as mayor. He has no vision, about what to do for Norwalk. All smiles, empty promises and quick to kick out those that disagree with him.

  • 20 turfgrrl // Jan 12, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Norwalk Taxpayer: I will continue to challenge Bruce Morris’ qualifications for holding a job with the BOE that requires a masters degree while Morris holds no college degree. Not to mention the lack of time spent actually working and general accountability.
  • 21 anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    turfster is right. why cant the boe’rs just ask for his application and then vote to fire him for fraud or make him submit a sworn affidavit ? also ask him for a daily timesheet submittal and report on his daily activities. sounds like a simple way to catch a t_ _ _ f.

  • 22 turfgrrl // Jan 12, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Rod Sterling Doesn’t even believe THIS: Um, first I stand head and shoulders above Galen, Alex, and Bruce literally. :) But please try not to associate me with the three amigos who think they don’t need no stinkin’ badges.
  • 23 turfgrrl // Jan 12, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    Ripley Too!: Funny stuff. Now stop having a conservative meltdown, you are starting to sound like Krummel who undoubtedly thinks that Democracy has ended.
  • 24 turfgrrl // Jan 12, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    anon: I think Mayor Moccia is highly effective in his stewardship of Norwalk. We don’t have to always agree on every issue, but the majority of the time we do.
  • 25 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Norwalker I’ll still bitch about the crime and pray for the one that sits on a slab after last night with no name, pray for his family for their loss and continue to ask what its going to take for Norwalk to stand up to the plate and make the city safe. News medias outside of Norwalk understand we are not getting the news its not about the lack crime its about the lack of coverage. Only if anyone was counting it was one dead , three stabbings and two reports of gunshots at two sites for a friday night .I wonder how the kid is that got hit by a car coming home from school this week a day after a truck almost killed a mother and child at the same intersection on Fort point and Osborne the day before is ok. Its not like that road has problems and to compound it winesses at the scene when the boy got hit said it was unusaual there was no crossing gaurd there.There has been a white line drawn down the middle hasn’t there, that usaully happens when a road is repaved isn’t it? Liability maybe? There is no one to challenge on my plight no one cares.

    How many times since the shooting at roodner court has the police gone to remove pot smokers in the hall? Plenty according to the residents why is this? Its heartless towards the residents after a shooting like that for the officials to go and pay respects and do nothing, more so its insulting to the families who lost and will lose others.

    wasn’t it odd today while the ME and the DA and the state and local police were at Macdonalds there was what three accidents within the site of where the body was within minutes of each other one was a rollover.

    for those who plan or have plans for this city note what just happened in Ny , here politicians have taken a new lead in their community and havn’t put their own plans ahead of the residents and taxpayers

    this by the way is from the end of last year

    Local officials want the city to test the soil at a Boerum Hill playground that federal officials say rests atop toxic waste before moving forward with a proposed makeover.

    As reported in The Brooklyn Paper, advocates want to turn the under-used Thomas Greene Park on Third Avenue into a skateboarder friendly playground with new bathrooms and equipment.

    But before any digging is done, the advocates want testing.

    “It would be foolhardy for the city to spend public money on a park only to have to come back some time later for a cleanup,” said Craig Hammerman, district manager for the Community Board 6, which would eventually approve any redesign of the park.

    does this sound familiar?

  • 26 Anon // Jan 12, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    Yes, it does sound familar..it sounds like Mr. Greenpeace!

  • 27 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Mayor Moccia at this point only has political shelf life of only this term I would be wiling to say the city has issues that no one party can do damage control with anymore.I actually think he was elected based on the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know.This is going to be a long 23 months for the ones who thought they were going to get relief. From crime to flooding hidden budget costs and undisclosed facts that are seeping out know makes it apparrent in the republican camp they need someone else to secure the seat next time.

    I liked this article it does show what the Clintons are all about when it comes to helping out people, Hillary already has her own credits but I realized maybe where our mayor got his lesson on numbers when it comes to our police dept.It shows the same kind of credit taken while others are the ones who do the work.

    Giuliani says he took the police force from 28,000 to 40,000. His actual starting number for the NYPD should be 29,450, plus the housing and transit cops on the city payroll, which brings it to 36,340 as of Jan. 1994 when he took office. By mid-2000, the total had moved up to 40,000. So we’re left with an increase of 3,660, or about 10 percent. That’s perfectly respectable, but you need a long pole to vault from there to 12,000. And it’s only fair to point out that the federal government, under the auspices of one of President Clinton’s favorite programs, passed by Congress as part of the 1994 crime bill, gave New York City enough money to cover the first $25,000 of the salaries of about 3,500 new officers from 1997 to 2000, according to the city’s nonpartisan Independent Budget Office

  • 28 Anonymous // Jan 12, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    This will be great for tourism this was taken from another blog that carries news from our area. I guess the only way to make an impact is to simply read what others are saying.

    Joel Gonzalez
    Bronx, NY Reply »
    Good job by the Norwalk Police in searching the perimeter of the crime scene. Too busy catching and running after the living and not looking for injured or dead ones considering that there were many injured at the scene.

  • 29 anonymous // Jan 13, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Glad to see the best and fairest blogger in the northeast join the Clinton Connecticut Steering COmmittee.

    Additionally, it looks like many other Norwalk Democratic political leaders are also on board.

    It is also great to see hundreds at a rally yesterday, and that Mayor Malloy endorsed Clinton.

  • 30 GoHillary // Jan 13, 2008 at 9:24 am

    Hillary is clearly the best prepared candidate for the presidency. Turffie is right again.

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