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Norwalk: A Tale Of Two Committees


by turfgrrl


January 11th, 2008 · 23 Comments

It was the best of times for the RTC and the worst of times for the DTC. Actually, I had hoped that there would be nothing to write about the biannual rites of political committee organization, since that part of the political sausage making process is not about policy and more like a bad B movie version of picking teams for a nice game of dodgeball. The thing is, dodgeball, is one of my favorite sports from the olden school days, and the analogy really falls apart this morning because all I can visualize is angry, angry Dems furiously throwing helium balloons at Republicans in town, and not quite understanding why the balloons just don’t go anywhere. Or let’s just start with the facts.

Okay, the Republicans have a town committee of 100 people, 20 of which come from each district. When they have too many for a district they have a reserve bench of alternates. So basically, if you are a Republican, and you want to be involved in the political party parties, you can do it. Meanwhile the Democrats have a town committee of 35, 7 of which comes from each district. You can’t be a member of the district unless you show up to a meeting 3 times, and then it is up to some rule, (put your right foot in and shake it all about) and stuff. So if you are a Democrat, and you want to be involved in the political party parties, you have to go all Indiana Jones and get past the knights of Ni.

In dodgeball, if that is indeed the analogy I’m sticking with here, having lots of people on your side is a good thing because the game is a process of whittling down to the last man standing. Hey, kind of like elections, except you burn more calories in dodgeball. So when I chatted with some Republican committee members this morning, following the brilliant Hogan’s Heroe’s parody in the Hour, I wasn’t surprised to learn that the RTC meeting went smoothly and pretty much anyone who wanted to serve on the RTC could. The Dems on the other hand, well let’s start with Colonel Klink’s quote in the Hour:

Galen Wells, Democratic Town Committee chairwoman, indicated that she is pleased with the results of Wednesday night’s caucuses.

“There have been divisions in the past, but we’ve endorsed a united town committee,” Wells said.

Ah yes Klink, the prisoners are all happy too. Except why is the lead headline, “Dems dump Bondi, Hilliard, Coffey”? Well, Seargent Schultz weighed in:

Poruban, District C Democrats chairman, said Thursday he didn’t know why Bondi wasn’t re-elected to the Democratic Town Committee.

“We didn’t talk about that” at the caucus, Poruban said. District C Democrats “came in, they voted, they left.”

I see no-thing, I hear no-thing …. yet Poruban, according to an anonymous source, managed to count the votes even though he is on the ballot, which according to the hokey pokey rules, “No candidate shall serve as teller or checker.” Seems like even old Jimmy Carter would have a problem with the fairness of this election with this, eh?

And then there’s Bill Krummel, personifying the audacity of hopelessness;

“I personally am very suspicious of bipartisanship. Presumably, you find common ground, but my own experience is there is relatively little common ground between the opposing parties,” Krummel said. “We have two parties because there is serious disagreement on major issues.”

Well, I guess that explains why Krummel’s chief contribution on council committees is to offer up the serious disagreement he has on the major issues, of property taxes (he must be for raising them), pot holes (must be for them too), flooding (nothing to see here, and hey didn’t he miss attending his own Public Works meeting last week?) which invariably brings me, like swallows to Capistrano, back to policy. Is it no wonder why the city DPW department is failing to enforce the ordinances that speak to the clean streets and sidewalks of Norwalk?

Partisan divides do exist on philosophical issues, but the meat and potatoes issues of running our city, aren’t about philosophy. They are about practicality and community. Isn’t it time to ask for a real change in local politics?

source: The Hour, Dems dump Bondi, Hilliard, Coffey, January 11, 2008

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23 Responses so far “Norwalk: A Tale Of Two Committees”



  • 1 Another analogy // Jan 11, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Circular firing squad comes to mind.

    The problem with the DTC is they are all about keeping the status quo. No room for fresh thinking and blood.

    Open the door and let the people in and maybe some excellent candidates will appear.

    Not letting a candidate (Bradley) in because he had not attend the prerequisite three meetings is absurd. Dumping the president of the council is dumb. Dumping the past president of the councilis also dumb

    Why p*** people off?

  • 2 Steve Mitchell // Jan 11, 2008 at 11:50 am

    Well I think the bipartisanship complaint issue with Fred is that his bipartisanship is 90% agreeing with the Republicans and their agendas, and only 10% helping his party with their constituents wishes. I wonder if Fred would have won if he ran as a Republican, which he seems to be. If he keeps listening to his Republican handlers, as he did with the Veterans Park debacle, never even asking anyone in his district who elected him what they thought of the plans, then he is in trouble. Now that he represents a broader slice of voters he will have his feet held to the fire by even more constituents. It’s time for Fred to make a choice, “Fish or cut bait.” The Republicans want him to keep cutting their bait for them, and then let him take the backlash hit and anger instead of them.

  • 3 Good for them // Jan 11, 2008 at 11:54 am

    You’re just annoyed that the Repubilcrats got ousted. Now let’s see the Democrats show some spine and vote for the things that are good for the city — not just for the Mayor and his drinking buddies.

  • 4 Democrat // Jan 11, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Galen Wells evidently can’t read…or better yet doesn’t care to read the party rules so she makes stuff up.
    Kevin Poruban is so lame that he breaks rules or creates them out of thin air.
    Both are incompetent and devious. This sounds like the Knopp team.
    Good luck Dems.

  • 5 dem4life // Jan 11, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Democrats just have higher standards for their committee. There’s nothing wrong with that.

  • 6 Anonymous // Jan 11, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    #2 Steve Mitchell… I think you must be drinking Galen’s kook-aid. What are you talking about?? Bondi was the largest vote getter for them and they tossed him out?? HEELLLLOOOO!! The clear majority of this city LIKES bipartisanship. Looks like that ol’kook Krummel doesn’t understand it either.

  • 7 Anonymous // Jan 11, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    Sure Dem4life…higher standards for Stalag 35 “vote as we say or find yourself ousted” or “You vill do as I say and wualk in ze lock step fashion - ya wovl” These dems are more like Hogan’s Zeroes.

  • 8 Good for them // Jan 11, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Ahh…all the Republicans mouthing off about “bipartisanship” — which in this case means getting the guys from the other team to throw the game in your favor. I guess you consider that being “good sports”.

  • 9 Anonymous // Jan 11, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    who are we all kidding, now that we have two years to posture our favorites there are others who think the candidate for the next mayor may be one of the above so damage control now.To discredit to shame to pull apart will not get your favorite elected , its almost like we know we are seeing the last term of the one right now.So I can’t lend any substantial comments in the realm of politics.

    But did you know Hogan Heroes trading cards were a
    Fleer, 1965, 66-card set. Usually run about $6-12 each, with the complete set between $700-900. The wax pack runs about $200-250 and the single unopened pack I saw, the guy was trying to get $450, which seems awfully high to me for something so easily counterfeited. I’ve never seen the box the cards came in, but I’ve heard of it at an auction with a starting bid of $800. Wax pack pic from ebay (19k)
    TV’s Coolest Classics. The set retails around $15, I think. It’s not a very good set. The promo cards, which are the coolest and not in the set, should be around $2-4, but sometimes they go for $5-7. My personal favorite is Schultz as Santa.

    then did you know the Hogans lunchbox
    designed by Elmer Lehnardt for Aladin - These go for $100 (VG) - $275 (NM-M) with the thermos.

    so if you collect comics you would know Dell (1966-69)
    The first eight came out in 1966-67, and number nine, the final one, is a reprint of The First

    did you ever hear the record Laffter Sweet and Profane — Pat Buttram and Bob Crane (Epic). That’s Mr. Haney from Green Acres and Col. Hogan!

    so we end with the best collectable cashing in on Bobs death Zone Productions (1993), #1 of Psycho Killers, which is a Celebrity Stalker Special.

    I trust the red heering provided lent more information to where we are at as a collectable taxpayer and not a concerned one.

  • 10 AnonymousDem // Jan 11, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    There’s a reason that many Democrats here are embarrassed by the town committee. No clue, no direction and much whining. I’m not sad to see Hilliard, Coffey and Bondi get dumped as much as I’m saddened by the lack of diversity and new people brought in to the party. The old guard just has to let go. Old mean and grouchy doesn’t sound very inspiring Ms. Wells.

  • 11 disgusted and dismayed // Jan 11, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Unfortunately both political parties are still being run by the good ol’ boys regime and not allowing for good representation. We saw what happened in the last election when they didn’t stand behind their candidates and we have seen it now with the obvious absense of some from the political circles altogether. It seems as if the local as well as the national parties just don’t give a damn about those paying their way. Pull the ones the people like and respect and promote those who fall lockstep with the parties. No wonder so many Americans fail to go to the polls and it seems as if they are right when they say “My vote won’t count anyway”

  • 12 Frank Puloso // Jan 11, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Re #6 “Bondi was the largest vote getter for them and they tossed him out”

    I think he got more Republican votes than Dem votes, in fact the Pubs most likely told their insiders to vote for Fred as he was a better follower than some of the Republicans. Fred should realize that brown nosing the Republicans, is like kissing a Cobra. It might seem like a great idea until the Cobra decides it’s time to let you know who is boss and finish you off with one bite. The Republicans would abandon Fred like rats from a sinking ship, and all the time he is siding with them and alienating his own solid constituency does he not see this coming? He is just a tool that the Pubs use when they need it. I cannot believe Fred has fallen for this “bipartisan” BS as it is being presented by the Republicans. Let Fred start to show some spine, and see how fast his new Republican friends and their base will dump him like he has the black plague. Mr. Bondi has let the Republicans hang the “Sword of Damocles” over his head.

  • 13 Anonymous // Jan 11, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Mr. Bondi doesn’t have to worry about the republicans “sword of Damocles”, The democrats have PLENTY of their own swords to hang over Freds head! Are you trying to say Mr. Puluso that Kevin Porouban was an asset to Fred? Who are you kidding? Kevin didn’t want to even give him any spot to run until Fred threatened to primary him. Kevin gave Fred an “at large seat” becuse he thought Fred would never win. Don’t kid yourself Frank, Democrats AND Republicans supported Fred because he put the City first, NOT Galen and her cronies like Kevin…Ahh Yes..Kevin Pouruban… So tell us Frank, if Fred was elected by rebublicans, what happened to Kevin?? Kevin was trounced (AGAIN!) because DEMOCRATS (and republicans, of course) DID’T vote for him. Get it? Fred is respected by the republicans and democrats but obviously, never was by the Democrats on the DTC. You got what you deserve.

  • 14 Frank Puloso // Jan 11, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    You got what you deserve

    Yep we sure did, Fred Bondi. Same old gravy just warmed over.

  • 15 fascinating // Jan 11, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Fred Bondi ran for mayor. Coffey was going to run for mayor. Anyone think this is all about keeping the path clear for Knopp? Talk about bad political advice.

  • 16 Anonymous // Jan 11, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Talk about warmed over gravy. Do we have to keep bringing up the politically dead?

  • 17 Sarah Morris // Jan 11, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    I would be happy to get involved with the Democratic party except that when I showed up to help John Kerry’s campaign I was told that they didn’t need any help. I guess nothing’s changed. Great site.

  • 18 Anonymous // Jan 11, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Yes, we do because it is all in the scheme of things. get rid of the ones that the people like and keep the ones that are lap dogs. That holds true for both parties. Haven’t seen Grant or Romano,(damn shame, they should have run for council again, they would have won big) given any special treatment from their respective parties. Miklave just seems to have vanished in the night. Looks like they got thrown out with the bath water and their parties couldn’t a damn for what they did before. The powers that be will continue to push their agenda’s and never think that the people who pay the taxes liked the ones they got rid of.

  • 19 Anonymous // Jan 11, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Frank Puloso..I’ll take the same ol’ tasty gravy over that cold swill your DTC keeps dishing out….apparently, so will the voters of Norwalk. Wake up already. That’s why you have the troubles you have.

  • 20 Anon // Jan 11, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    It is interesting that the democratic presidential candidates talk constantly about ‘bringing us together’, but in Norwalk (as in Washington) any Democrats who actually try to come together with Republicans in a bipartisan manner (e.g., Lieberman, Coffey, Bondi) are immediately marked for political assassination. To Democrats, ‘bipartisanship’ means Republicans going along with Democrat proposals; it NEVER means the reverse.

  • 21 Elmo Clinton // Jan 11, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    it NEVER means the reverse.

    It all depends on your definition of NEVER.

  • 22 Mary Geake // Jan 11, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    I can’t speak for anyone except myself, but I have been attending Ward B meetings since the winter of 2002, not missing many of the meetings. For the first time I tried to elected to the DTC, & almost didn’t get in as I was not on the favored list of people running in Ward B. But I won & I promise you & everyone that lives in Ward B that I will support what you want, as long as you come to the Ward B meetings & let us know how you feel. All you have to do is be a registered democrat in Ward B & attend three (3) meetings before you have voting rights in Ward B. If everyone who writes on this blog were to at least come to their respective party’s monthly meeting, maybe then we could start getting some ‘new blood’ in the party. Maybe it is old blood, that’s because no one new ever comes to a meeting. Did you ever think of that? Power is in common people willing to take a chance & stand up for something that they believe in. How ’bout it, what do you believe in?

    My phone #’s is in the book.

  • 23 Anon // Jan 13, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Overheard with some others an older woman screaming at a republican councilman in the halls of town hall weds evening. Could not believe how rude the way she was carrying on, sounded like a party politics issue from the councilmans defense but could have been an angry constituent. At any rate this woman was nuts. Does anyone know what if anything came of it?

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