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Norwalk: Historical Commission Budgets & More


by turfgrrl


December 20th, 2007 · 11 Comments

Last night’s historical commission had to delay its start as meeting a quorum was an issue. Earlier in the day Kathryn Martino and Sue Gun met to prepare the budget for the commissioners review. It was emailed out at 5pm, and also printed out for the commissioners attending the meeting. The highlights of the meeting included news that the Historical Commission is planning to hire a part time maintenance worker to tackle many of the small repair jobs that its properties require. This was a compromise worked out with the City when it was pointed out that the historic properties were not being services under the umbrella maintenance contract held by the City.

The other issue that drew some discussion near the end was over the incident that occurred over the weekend. Apparently there’s contention abut whether the handicapped access door to the building can be locked by the tenant, in this case, Sue Gunn, the curator of the Norwalk Museum, or whether the door is required to be open during business hours. This issue has been debated before, prompting a curt reprimand from then Personnel Director Sara LeTourneau to advise Gunn; “I reviewed this incident with you and you acknowledged
that the door was locked and that in addition to yourself, there were three (3) Museum volunteers on the premises at the time. This is a written warning for your failure to comply with the Commission’s specific directive. Should this happen again, you may be subject to further and more severe discipline in accordance with progressive discipline.” Gunn maintained that Peter Bondi instructed her that it was okay to lock the door. Bondi, during the meeting, wisely referred the matter to corporation counsel. The only problem with corporation counsel weighing in on the issue, is that the building is a multi-tenant building, and thus the requirements of which public doors are open will likely be kicked back to the property owner.

The Meeting:

Bondi: The vandalism on the gravestones may fall under the insurance umbrella policy. He had discussed this with Tom Hamilton.

Westmoreland: Will get a consultant to provide a total estimate for the entire vandalism.

Wall: Asks what the absolute deadline for getting an HVAC estimate for Mill Hill.

Martino: Responds to Wall that it’s Friday. They will ask for $40k for Smith street buildings. Gunn asked for the order of priority for the projects. Mill Hill buildings $45k for 2008-09, shutters, rotting windows, and architectural planning. 2010-11 they need $35k . Cemetery restoration 40k for Mill Hill and $20k for lights. Pine Island phase 1 is projecting at $385k. (A discussion about the estimates and grants that would be sought as well)

Martino: Gate Lodge Matthew Parks $25k for 08-09 and additional sums included out years. There was an earlier discussion about the ongoing nature of these projects.

Martino: Preservation plan is $40k, which would provide a list of architects who could estimate what can be done for the budget available.

For the Rogers Merrit House: No additional funds have been asked. There is currently $150k unspent plus $19k in private donations.

??? missed the next item.

Martino: Historic resource and inventory list. Bondi says that the demo delay ordinance speaks to that, and that it would be a good idea to have a line item addressing it.

Westmoreland: Says that they should consult with Todd Bryant about the cost of developing the list.

Wall: Suggests that the cost could be $50k.

They are going to research what the hard numbers are and add them to the operating budget.

Martino: Heating and Humidity control for the Norwalk Museum archives is a new line item of $5000 to develop and engineering plan and in 2009-10 $30k to install.

Martino: Lockwood Mansion asks for $20k Bondi suggests that the estimate from 4 years ago was $18k so that $25k is a more accurate number.

Mill Hill Buildings received a number 1 priority after a brief discussion.

Cemetery Restoration received a 2 priority.

Gate Lodge/Carriage House/Mansion priority 3 4 5.

Wall: Asks if the HC can receive the rents from Smith street.

Martino: Says that Hamilton suggested doing that.

There’s a brief discussion about the line item and quality of the apartments. They would like to see the rental income dedicated to the maintenance of those units.

Smith street is priority 6.

Preservation Plan gets moved to priority 1 everythign above resets down a number.

Resource inventory list / HVAC/Rogers Rich/ are now 8, 9, and 10.

They approve the capital budget with proposed amendments of the HVAC of Mill Hill unanimously.

Building Committee Report by John ???? [may have got the name wrong]. Discusisng the Gatehouse. there’s a hole in the floor and it can be fixed, and that it would be fine for another 50 years. There may be a problem with the new steps because of a reverse pitch on the first step.

There’s some discussion about plot availability at Pine Island Cemetery. The most recent burial being in 2000 was cited.

David Westmoreland speaks about lighting issues at the town house on Mill Hill. There is a volunteer who has some involvement with the lighting for the MET has been working with Klaff’s on a lighting plan, and is asking for comments from the commission. The project was funded in the previous budget. They plan to install a track lighting system that would be flexible to light many different types of displays.

Bondi: Asks about the heat being thrown off by the fixtures harming anything.

John ????: The heat would be minimal and that the amount of light is also a consideration.

Bondi: Asks about electricity costs going up.

John ????: The electricity would go up since there are more lights thatn the current chandeliers.

There was some discussion about how the track lighting will be installed and what invasiveness will occur.

They approve the lighting plan as presented unanimously.

David Park Cemetery Report: The Boy scouts have approved the Brookside Cemetery project in the spring. They are pursuing lighting for Pine Island Cemetery.

ADA problem. Peter Bondi says that corp counsel is reviewing.

Eric Chandler has pulled the ADA standards of Historic buildings and notes several sections that say if the door is locked with a buzzer that it may be compliant. Chandler asks if the commission is supposed to be setting the policy, and that corpo counsel to decide what is proper procedure under ADA.

Wall: In 2005 this issue was discussed, risk management looked at the situation that the handicap door ramp needed to be kept open during public hours. Mentions a Sara LeTourneau letter sent to the curator. The police were called over the weekend on this issue.

Bondi: We will abide by the corporation counsel decision on whether the handicap ramp needs to be open or closed.

Bondi: To hire a part time, maintenance help.

Parks: Mentions that the BET has not put maintenance under the umbrella maintenance contract.

Wall: Makes job descriptions corrections which are all noted by Peter Bondi.

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11 Responses so far “Norwalk: Historical Commission Budgets & More”



  • 1 History Starts with Me! // Dec 20, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    I am concerned about the Handicapped access - Does Peter Bondi overide the laws for ADA buildings? Did the “Curator” not understand the warning she had been given in the past? Taxes paid for services not available - Tell me who I need to know in CITY HALL to get a job like this…

  • 2 Anonymous // Dec 20, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    Why does the “new” commission feel that somehow the resolutions passed previously mean nothing? Why can you read these same issues year after year in the minutes, but the curator never complies? What makes the previous Corp Council’s and or personnel director’s decisions null and void?

    If the curator was written up by the previous personnel director who was a lawyer, why is she playing the same game over and over to the new commissioners? Where is the memory of the Commission? Isn’t it the duties of the new commissioners to read the old minutes and educate themselves to what came before them? Why are they allowing themselves to be used like this?

    Why is the City hiring another person to do the duties in the curator’s job description that she has been paid for 8 years to do but hasn’t? Why does the city keep someone who hasn’t done her job? Isn’t this a waste of taxpayer money? Isn’t the city libel if a handicapped person falls waiting to get into the museum? What a waste!

  • 3 Anonymous // Dec 20, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    Remove the Curator!

  • 4 turfgrrl // Dec 20, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    Anonymous #2: I would think that the HC functions like any other commission in Norwalk, that unless a vote is taken to change an action of the commission, the voted on action is the only one in effect. I’m not sure what happens when a voted on action is not being followed, but perhaps those more knowledgeable with Roberts Rules etc. can chime in.
  • 5 Anonymous // Dec 20, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    Turfgirl:

    I would think that if the curator was sent a written letter of warning, that ordered her to leave the handicapped door unlocked and she in turn used the fact that there were new commissioners to do what she wanted to do not what she was told to do, that then the onus would be on her for failing to comply.

    It really makes the new commissioners look like idiots. I would guess that before too long, the new commissioners will see how they have been manipulated and will start to get the full picture. It is my opinion that is why there has been such a turnover on the Historical Commission. I used to go and watch the manipulation, but it was painfull to see it.

  • 6 turfgrrl // Dec 20, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    IAnonymous #5: I’m not so sure. If the present HC chair verbally said it was ok, without realizing that it was an official action by the HC in the past, then the failure to hold a vote to change an action would be the logical issue at hand. The curator, apparently is bent on keeping the door locked. There are many aspects to this.

    1. Its a muti-tenent building and the door is public access to a public space. One tenant can’t dictate the policies of the building.

    2. The HC can only act as a commission, you can’t have individual members making policy.

    3. The Norwalk Museum, itself a governmental creation, must at times it is open to the public meet all regulatory standards as set forth by all regulatory bodies.

    Each of these are worthy of discussion.

  • 7 Anonymous // Dec 20, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    #6 I believe that the curator manipulated the Chair although the onus is on him to read previous HC minutes or check with the former Chair to see if this issue was brought up in front of the commission before. Anyone who has been to HC meetings in the past know that all issues are repeated year after year, because the curator refuses to take direction in a written directive from the HC.

  • 8 anon for now // Dec 20, 2007 at 6:18 pm

    The person being manipulated here is the Mayor who was persuaded that getting rid of the “fractious four” and adding his hand-picked candidates (including Peter Bondi) would “fix” the Commission. It played right into the curator’s hands. Who’s running this town?

  • 9 turfgrrl // Dec 20, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    The land use Committee brought up the issue of the ADA stuff and access to the ADA bathrooms for those that are interested. That post is up.
  • 10 History Starts with Me! // Dec 21, 2007 at 10:07 am

    I read the post of land use, and the problem with bathrooms in the Norwalk Library. Has anyone looked in the Curators office and storeroom? I am sure they are truly FILTHY and are as disorganized as the curators thought process with the detours it must take for legal advice and cruelty.

    Perhaps her office could be a historic latrine - but you would still need to clean it a bit first.

  • 11 oldenorwalker // Dec 21, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    This problem of ADA regulation and the curator’s excuses for locking the door is as old as her tenure as the ‘curator’ of the NM. WHen the mayor begins to make multi non-reappointments to any commission or city committee, what you do is destroy the collective memory that commission has and this is exactly what he he has tried to do with the HC. If the new commissioners are only political appointments, as in the case of the HC, you destroy all the knowledge and rulings that went before. This is exactly what the curator has sought so that she can again work on the new appointments all over again. And what was the intelligence operating here that makes a chairman out of a person who has been on the commission for just one month? Seems to me that a lot of plotting went into his appointment and the dumping of the four very knowledgable people who truly cared about the commission. Makes the mayor look to be a very conniving, back room politician. I guess all the decisions were made at the Norwalk Motor Inn over drinks.

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