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Norwalk: Police Overtime Issues


by turfgrrl


December 10th, 2007 · 72 Comments

Chief Rilling announced that the police department has used about 65 percent of its overtime budget and we are not at the fiscal year midpoint. Of course, it might be helpful to know if the overtime was the result of one-time events, a trend or how it compares to same period in previous years. This type of basic analysis is something that it seems would be important in the sixth largest city in Connecticut, but strangely always seems to be missing form budget presentations.

Which is the reason why this article popped up in today’s Hour. Since we are at the start of budget planning for fiscal 08-09, department heads are rallying up the rhetoric on why increases are needed. For the most part, increasing staff to deal with new demands placed on departments is entirely justifiable. But in this case, the police budget, as run by Rilling deserves a much closer look.

As I drive around town at night, and see our new Police cruisers manning the CL & P, invasive digs, I wonder why there are so many new police cruisers out there idling away. Is CL & P paying all the overtime and use of those police cruisers? And what’s the priority for the department, overtime staffing for Cl & P, or scheduling staff appropriately in the first place? What hours of the day is the overtime being paid out in? Those are my questions at least. The Hour’s Robert Koch reports:

The department is funded for 176 officers now, with an authorized strength of 182. In the next 18 months, the mayor and chief hope the funded number will be 179.
But even though 176 are funded, there are only 167 serving — and seven of those are in the police academy, Rilling said.

There have been a slew of vacancies in recent years, mainly due to planned retirements under the Deferred Retirement Option Plan, or DROP, which allows police to collect retirement payments while still on the force in lieu of some later benefits and requires them to retire a maximum of five years after opting in to the plan. Qualified candidates to fill empty positions have been difficult to find.

Moccia added funding for three officers after being elected in 2005 to his first two-year term, and five officers returned to patrol after the combined dispatch center was civilianized last year.

In every year except one (2002-03) since 2001-02, the police department has overstepped its approved overtime budget, according to figures from Donna Castracane, city assistant director of management and budgets. Last year, the overrun was more than $700,000 and the year before that it was more than $1.3 million.

Last year, the police department spent $2,146,733 on overtime, a 14 percent decrease from overtime spending the year before. The approved overtime budget last year was $1,442,498.

This year’s approved budget includes a $148,956 increase in overtime wages over last year’s approved budget, according to the police budget as published on the city’s Web site.

Rilling, like other department heads, was required to submit his budget request for 2008-09 to city Finance Director Thomas Hamilton by Nov. 30. The chief declined to release the details of his budget request.

City Board of Estimate and Taxation Chairman Fred Wilms said police overtime spending is “one of our most difficult challenges” because on one hand, board members want to keep taxes as low as possible while on the other hand, “we all want to live in a city that has a low crime rate, and where the police department has all of the tools they need to protect us.

“We want to see crime keep going down and so we want to support the police wherever we can but overtime has been a recurring issue,” he said. “For the last few years it’s been a real challenge to try to manage the overtime spending of the police department. The chief has done a great job. I feel he’s been very mindful of overtime spending. But it’s not something that can be solved right away.”

Over the past two years or so, the trend has been to transfer excess funds from the regular wage account to cover overtime, Wilms said.

Last year, asset forfeiture money was also used to cover overtime “and I think that’s a welcome development,” he said.

One solution to the problem is adding more officers to the force, Wilms said,

“We’ve been moving in that direction from a budgetary perspective,” he said. “In the past two years we’ve increased funding for additional officers.”

He added that the DROP “has really had a huge impact on the force and cost the city a lot of money. I wish it had never been implemented.”

Rilling said he will have a budget review Dec. 18 with the finance department, which will forward its recommendations to the Board of Estimate and Taxation. The board is slated to meet with the police department in January, Rilling said.

source: The Hour New officers may be sought to curb overtime spending by Robert Koch, December 10, 2007

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  • 1 MGeake // Dec 10, 2007 at 10:01 am

    I’ve been meeting with the department heads as part of getting aclimated to my new role as chair of the Health, Welfare, Public Safety, and Emergency Management Committee. As I’ve said on this blog many, many times, police overtime — more accurately, overtired officers who may be called upon to use deadly force — is one of my “hot button” issues.

    With all the development we have going on, the police manpower needs are going to steadily climb. I asked Chief Rilling an obvious question: do we need to adjust pay and/or benefits to attract more officers. His answer was no, we got over 500 applicants last time. What the problems are is a long vetting process that rightfully eliminates unsuitable candidates followed by 44 weeks in the training academy.

    I agreed with the chief when he said we will need to increase authorized manpower over time, but I disagree with our current funding level. We should “fund” to the full authorized strength, knowing full well that these funds won’t be expended unless and until these positions are actually filled. What this would do is allow the chief to go to more frequent recruiting cycles (he mentioned monthly) with the ability to immediately hire those who are qualified.

    We are long past time to get the force back to full strength.

  • 2 turfgrrl // Dec 10, 2007 at 10:41 am

    MGeake: What do you make of the use of fully funded manpower being used to fund over time?
  • 3 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 10:49 am

    we were here when the mayor first took office years ago.This is his watch and no one elses.

    “we are long past time to get the force back to full strength” your right Mike you were there before election time listening to the residents seeing this all first hand, you have never been an armchair critic.

    This type of basic analysis is something that it seems would be important in the sixth largest city in Connecticut, but strangely always seems to be missing form budget presentations

    Why is that?

    So why not add to the facts we may not see what we saw this year for help.

    The Bush administration intends to slash counterterrorism funding for police, firefighters and rescue departments across the country by more than half next year, according to budget documents obtained by The Associated Press.

    The Homeland Security Department has given $23 billion to states and local communities to fight terrorism since the Sept. 11 attacks, but one document says the administration is not convinced that the money has been well spent and thinks the nation’s highest-risk cities have largely satisfied their security needs.

    The department wanted to provide $3.2 billion to help states and cities protect against terrorist attacks in 2009, but the White House said it would ask Congress for less than half - $1.4 billion, according to a Nov. 26 document. The plan calls for outright elimination of programs for port security, transit security, and local emergency management operations in the next budget year. This is President Bush’s last budget, and the new administration would have to live with the funding decisions between Jan. 20 and Sept. 30, 2009.

    The Homeland Security department and the White House Office of Management and Budget, which is in charge of the administration’s spending plans, would not provide details about the funding cuts because nothing has been finalized

    Mr Mayor what do we do now?

  • 4 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:01 am

    this was nov 30th of this year

    District B Councilwoman Phyllis Bolden, whose district includes Washington Village, called a news conference Monday at Day and Raymond to urge locals to report crimes to police and to reiterate that city leaders won’t tolerate illegal guns and violent crime.

    “We want it to stop,” Bolden said. “The residents are terrified. The quality of life is a really big issue. These people deserve to live in peace and comfort. No one should have to go to bed worried if a bullet’s going to come through their window or a drug dealer’s outside their door.

    Now what Phyllis?

    Stamford rate dropped 22 percent, they hired more officres and received grant money for their housing complexes where by the way Norwalk has always seem to have problems

    Nov 3 of this year

    Norwalk: Crime Stats Say We Are Doing Better

    Wow, what a coincidence that the Police Dept. would be releasing information favorable to the Mayor’s campaign just days before the election!

  • 5 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:19 am

    nov 14

    I hate to defend anyone but this overtime was a plus and it wasn’t on a road project.

    NORWALK — A man from Bridgeport
    was shot multiple times Saturday in the
    area of Water Street and Elizabeth Street,
    police reported.
    No suspects were found, and the number
    of people involved in the shooting is
    unknown.
    At 1:46 a.m., Officer William Curwen
    was working an extra-duty job at the Monterey
    Village housing complex when he
    heard gunshots coming from the Washington
    Village housing complex. Several
    Washington Village residents also heard
    the shots and called 911

    Its not always overtime budgets that fight crime is it?

    In August, Patchen Street
    resident Bridget Randolph sent
    a letter of concern to Mayor
    Richard Moccia and Police
    Chief Harry Rilling, along
    with 25 photos of disturbing
    sights — such as used condoms
    and empty drug bags

    strictly a lack of police
    presence or lack of lighting in
    that parking lot

    Mayor Moccia said lighting
    was the topic of conversation a
    year ago but the light pole in
    the lot turned out to belong to
    Connecticut Light & Power,
    and so the city never got it
    hooked up.

    So has it been hooked up?

    Mike? Turfgrrl? anyone?

  • 6 Blame Knopp! // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:20 am

    I agree with you #4. But #3, I’m sure we can blame the problems with police department funding on Knopp and Galen Wells, can’t we? Why should we hold anyone accountable who is currently serving and only been in office for a little over two years?

  • 7 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:22 am

    here we go again // Nov 14, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    I can see this thread is only going to get longer resolve on each case or not. Trouble seems to be brewing on the streets , like it was said before seems like the shootings, death or not usually happen around oct-nov. maybe it would be a good idea to give the stats and the numbers at the end of each quarter and not make it a political football as it was the report seem inacurate to say the least.I trust someone has told the mayor the city is experiencing crime with handguns city wide and sharp knives can deliver the same kind of death.

    from the knoll

  • 8 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:31 am

    This was in the middle of the day, what more has to happen before we get our quality of life back?

    Dec 4th of this year

    NORWALK — Police were searching for three or four males dressed in black after a man was found bleeding at about 3 p.m. Monday in the Riverview Plaza parking lot.
    The man, of unclear age and residency, told police that his attackers beat him and made off with his green Eddie Bauer jacket in the parking lot at the intersection of Belden Avenue and Cross Street, police said.

    I agree #6 lets blame Knopp, or how about Walter?

  • 9 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:42 am

    department sizes around the state

    Hatrford 475

    New haven 508

    Stamford 363

    waterbury 336

  • 10 anonymous two // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:49 am

    Number 6 is that you Alex?

  • 11 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 11:54 am

    lets not forget this is part of this years budget correct?

    odd how these things were simply ignored at election time.

    we the residents are paying someone who Norwalk police arrested $44,000 dollars who is a convicted burgular, I wonder who pays for this settlement and lawyer fees for Norwalk?

    Of course deals were made thank god for that how much could we have lost paying this guy?

    this was a settlement Norwalk had to pay to a convicted crimminal aug 15th of this year when brutality charges were lodged against the Norwalk police dept.

  • 12 anon // Dec 10, 2007 at 12:04 pm

    Why are these things ignored at election time? Because incumbents don’t want you to know and challengers worry more about lawn signs.

  • 13 MGeake // Dec 10, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    turfgrrl // Dec 10, 2007 at 10:41 am

    Must have been that long weekend, ’cause I have no idea what you’re asking!

  • 14 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    Democrats don’t care about crime issues so you’ll never hear about support for the police out of this council. Moccia’s hands are tied by the Democrats.

  • 15 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 12:09 pm

    oct 17th 2007

    Union: Not enough police on duty during night shift

    The city and its police officers are in danger because there aren’t enough cops on the street at night, the local police union president is asserting.
    Typically, about 12 officers are on staff after 3 a.m., police said. But three of them aren’t allowed to leave the building: Those in charge of the holding facility, dispatch and the front desk.

    “A lot of times, they’re out there with only eight guys manning the street. That’s not safe for the city and that’s not safe for the men,” said Officer William Curwen, police union Local 1727 president. “We’re at a really dangerously low situation. We’ve been running on luck on the seat of our pants for so long, it’s become the norm for us. There’s going to be a time when that luck will run out.”

    Curwen said members of the midnight shift were angered by statements from Mayor Richard Moccia and Police Chief Harry Rilling, published Oct. 7 in The Hour, that staffing levels after 3 a.m. were adequate based on call volume

    we seem to have enough luck so why change now?

  • 16 MGeake // Dec 10, 2007 at 12:22 pm

    Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    For the record, my wife is ex-police (retired because she suffered a stroke), and I have blood relatives who are, or were, cops — including one who had to retire after nearly being killed in the line of duty.

    As for Moccia’s hands being tied, it is his Republican administration that wants to fund the department at less than its authorized strength and the Democratic committee chair who is objecting.

    Funny how Republicans get annoited as the law and order party by people either too lazy or too biased to actually delve into the facts. Why just today, that great patriot and upholder of the law, Scooter Libby, dropped the appeal of his conviction.

    Shall we stick to real issues, or do you want to continue the name calling, ’cause I have many, many more examples!?!

  • 17 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    only a republican could write something like this,who turned on your computer Dick?

    Democrats don’t care about crime issues so you’ll never hear about support for the police out of this council. Moccia’s hands are tied by the Democrats

    The Bush administration intends to slash counterterrorism funding for police, firefighters and rescue departments across the country by more than half next year, according to budget documents obtained by The Associated Press.

  • 18 turfgrrl // Dec 10, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    mgeake: I was asking specifically about how Rilling is using the current manpower budget to fund the overtime, instead of going for a special appropriation.
  • 19 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 6:52 pm

    Surpringly enough the police budget has always been a concern but without enough police officers actually on the force the next best thing is overtime. We can thank Alex Knopp for that debacle. Without his infinite wisdom perhaps 35 + wouldn’t have been so tempted to retire so early.

  • 20 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 8:54 pm

    be surprised how many don’t make it many years after 35 after a job like that.If they do they health is not with them. Simply another public servant looking at the job from within.

  • 21 Anonymous // Dec 10, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    What most residents don’t understand is Rillings and his side kick use this formula to ensure all of Norwalk all is well,all is swell.

    Consider the following model:

    C = a P[-b] X[c], (1)

    RC = rC, and (2)

    r = (1 - dP[-1]), (3)

    where

    C = the actual crime rate,

    P = the number of police,

    X = the set of other conditions that affect the actual crime rate,

    RC = reported crime rate, and

    r = the reporting rate.

    In this case, the estimated elasticity of reported crime in response to the number of police is

    E = -b + (d/P-d). (4)

    see there is always an answer,one simply has to do the math to figure it out.

  • 22 Blame Knopp! // Dec 11, 2007 at 7:28 am

    Oh thank goodness #19. Only 19 posts to find a reason to blame Knopp. Guess it is getting harder to blame everything on someone who hasn’t been the mayor in a couple of years. And, only 14 posts to blame the problems on the Democrats - too bad #14 didn’t stretch a little more and blame it on Galen Wells…I hope we can start blaming everything on Walter, as well, and all the other candidates who lost in the election. That way, we can keep our heads buried in the sand forever!!!!!!! Blame Knopp!!!! woohooo!!!!!

    C(#19 * #14)/2.14 * RC = Moccia/Rilling

  • 23 MGeake // Dec 11, 2007 at 7:30 am

    #18 is overtime not a manpower expense?

  • 24 Anonymous // Dec 11, 2007 at 11:43 am

    that was good Blame Knopp, I left that formular for the news hounds as a brain teaser I can see you for one got it. I wonder if we have others out here who can come up with their own equation.I think most will find the same answer.

  • 25 anon // Dec 11, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    Isn’t it funny how Alex keeps bringing up his puppets, as if they are important people. Real Dems know they are useless and voted accordingly. Get over yourself.

  • 26 Anonymous // Dec 11, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    Real Dems know they are useless and voted accordingly

    Comments like this will solve our crime and police overtime issues? :)

  • 27 Anonymous // Dec 12, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    Doesn’t look like money like the oyster park money will be around for essential services next year at this time.

    park or protection that is the question isn’t it?

    just in on the wire!

    JOHNSTON, Iowa - Republican presidential rivals called for deep cuts in federal spending Wednesday in a debate remarkably free of acrimony, and agreed the reductions they seek need not require painful sacrifice by millions of Americans who rely on government services.

  • 28 Townie // Dec 14, 2007 at 7:43 am

    To begin, I’m having a very difficult time understanding this police overtime issue. I’ve been reading about it year after year and listening to all sorts of solutions and remedies offered & promised by Mayors & Police Chiefs. But it never seems to go away and the dollars spent never decrease. I believe that we have a fine police deptartment in Norwalk and recognize the need to adequately staff and fund them. So please don’t think I’m trying to make them look bad or blame the current or former mayor for anything here. I just don’t understand! I don’t think I’m a stupid person but I just can’t figure this one out. Wouldn’t hiring more policemen reduce the overtime? I know that police overtime will never go away, but can’t it be managed in a better more reasonable manner with an increase in staffing?

  • 29 MGeake // Dec 14, 2007 at 8:35 am

    Townie: see the very first post in this thread. We are actively recruiting, and Chief Rilling has a plan to become much more aggressive. But the simple fact is that it takes several weeks to properly screen an applicant, then 44 weeks of training at the academy.

    This is why we need to [1] fully fund the current staffing level so recruits can be hired just as soon as the vetting process is complete and [2] gradually increase their authorized staffing level.

  • 30 anonymous // Dec 15, 2007 at 9:10 am

    it is cheaper to pay overtime that pay a salary plus benefits. i am surprised that the chief told m geake that the police salary was adequate. gone are the days when over 1,000 would apply for the police department for only a few openings. in order to entice people to apply, you need to raise salaries so they are competitive with surrounding areas that have no problem getting applicants. nypd is having the same issues. you frequently read how many of their better officers are leaving nypd to go to departments on long island that are paying much higher salaries. it is like anything else, you get what you pay for. and yes, the city gets a percentage of the payment for all those officers working at construction sites.

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