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Norwalk: BOE Budgets, and Meetings and the Public, Oh My


by turfgrrl


December 5th, 2007 · 38 Comments

Last night the BOE held a meeting. Today’s Hour reveals the highlight of that meeting. We could read through that, and we will, but then there’s a musical tribute that Dr. Sal Corda is saying that we maybe should be paying attention to:

Ahem, the Hour reports:

On Monday night, Corda laid out to the school board the 2008-09 operating budget adoption schedule. With the board’s permission, he intends to open the Dec. 18 board meeting at 6:45 p.m. — an hour early — to allow public input on the budget “whether it is relevant to process, ideas, etc.”

“Our intent is to get the proposed budget to you on (Dec.) 21st,” Corda told board members.
Corda has recommended that the school board host the first of potentially three budget presentations meetings on Jan. 2, at which time he will explain the spending plan. The second presentation would take place Jan. 3. A third presentation, if necessary, would be held Jan. 7, Corda said.

Members of the Common Council, and the Board of Estimate and Taxation, which will set the bottom line for city and school spending for the fiscal year starting next July, will be invited to attend.

“As I did last year, I will invite the Common Council and members of the Board of Estimate, the finance director to the meetings to hear the presentations,” Corda told school board members.

“Our intent is to present the budget to you, in detail, as well as to respond to any questions that you may have,” Corda said. “And of course, (we would incorporate) any recommendations that you would make, that we would need to modify the proposed budget for you, so that it comes before you, for a vote, on Tuesday, Jan. 8.”

Corda said the budget, as adopted by the school board, would go to Thomas S. Hamilton, the city’s finance director, the following day.

Fred Wilms, Board of Estimate chairman, said he and other board members look forward to attending Corda’s budget presentation meetings in January. Wilms declined to comment on what bottom line he would like to see on the Board of Education’s 2008-09 operating budget.

“We really have to wait to see (Corda’s) numbers, and study those carefully, before we can really make any comments,” Wilms said. “The average spending increase for the Board of Education over the past 10 years has been in the 4 percent to 5 percent range. That seems to be the normal. The Board of Education should be mindful that this is what they’ve received, on average, the last 10 years.”

Corda said what!? “he intends to open the Dec. 18 board meeting at 6:45 p.m. — an hour early — to allow public input on the budget “whether it is relevant to process, ideas, etc.”" Oh my. Talk about starting out the budget process on a high handed note. The behind the scenes is not that much better.

Bruce Kimmel has lit the fire under the meetings of the BOE finance committee. That is a good thing. A very good thing. This means that the BOE will have the opportunity to review and discuss the budget line items, hopefully in more detail, before the full BOE, public, BET and council get to see it. Kinda makes sense to do it that way. Sort of like, oh, 100% of the rest of the democratic world. So far so good. But then there’s the Executive committee of the BOE.

Last summer the BOE and Corda was informed that per FOI compliance, such meetings needed to noticed and anyone could attend. Naturally, when then chair Jodi Bishop-Pullan was informed of this pesky open government requirement, she unilaterally announced that the committee was dissolved. Note that there’s no record of all of this because the meeting and the existence of this committee was in total non compliance.

A funny thing happened on the way to this budget forum, because lo and behold, there’s a new executive committee meeting scheduled for next week. Who is on it? Will it comply with FOI? Did Susan Hamilton (current BOE chair) even know about this? So stay tuned for the next episode of FOI and you, brought to you by the Norwalk BOE, because testing FOI laws is an educational experiment.

source: The Hour: City, school board await Corda’s budget, By ROBERT KOCH, December 5, 2007

Tags: Education · Norwalk

38 Responses so far “Norwalk: BOE Budgets, and Meetings and the Public, Oh My”


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  • 1 THINK YOUR IP IS SAFE? // Dec 5, 2007 at 9:40 am

    Read the article in Wednesdays Hour on page A8

    “Blog arrest sets off free speech debate.”

    Reading that article just goes to show you how naive you really are.

  • 2 turfgrrl // Dec 5, 2007 at 10:02 am

    The story in the Hour leaves out quite a few details. The comment apparently referenced shooting teachers, and thus triggered an overzealous police reaction. The blogger made an assumption about what the investigation was about and according to his account, did not require a warrant in order to release the IP. But hey, read all about it here.

    blog on blog arrest

  • 3 always watching // Dec 5, 2007 at 11:31 am

    Corda announced the following meeting schedule at the BOE meeting:
    12/10 finance committee meeting on the Format of the operating budget
    12/17 finance committee meeting on the Capital budget
    12/18 public input followed by regular BOE meeting
    12/20 budget submitted to City Finance Department

    Who is willing to take a bet that NOTHING has changed and that the BOE’s input to the budget will be a big NOTHING!

  • 4 Democrat // Dec 5, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    The whole point of the new Ethics law is to have people who are NOT associated or friendly with government officials. The challenge will be getting agreement by council members, not getting volunteers. There are lots of people who would like to sit on the commission. Other cities have done this with good results. It’s what the legisature also needs to do.

  • 5 Vet Park Junkie // Dec 5, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    I sincerely hope that the Finance Committee requests and gets actual budget expenses for the last year, even YTD numbers. Otherwise, comparing the current budget request to last year’s budget request is making assumptions upon assumptions. This enables the 6% actual to budget variance that we can see on the city website.

    … and, oh, wouldn’t it be wonderful to see a breakout school by school?

    Yes, the “whether it is relevant…” is a high handed note. I read the whole article as an affront to Susan Hamilton’s authority. Isn’t she the one who should be driving the setting of dates and invitees?

  • 6 Anonymous // Dec 5, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    There has been plenty of noise in this post lately about Corda’s potential requests for a budget increase.

    Anyone who has followed the thread of the post can see that there is a problem with Lynne Moore at West Rock and her alleged terrorizing of teachers.

    The issue of teachers that leave the school is a very serious one. It is draining the city of resources. A recent study on teacher loss
    estimated that cost of a teacher leaving a school fluctuates from 4500-17000 per teacher lost/replaced. This is very lame estimate when one considers the cost of searching, selecting (opportunity costs), the losses in momentum related to student learning, etc.

    You can see the study at:

    http://www.nctaf.org/resources/demonstration_projects/turnover/documents/CTTPolicyBrief6-19.pdf

    So, who cares to confront the beast? I wonder if the “warden” has something on them.

    Fay Ruotolo has done a poor job in monitoring this situation. Also, Mellion, or should I call him Minion, has turned his side on the teachers. Shame on you Bruce, once upon a time you were one of us!

    Where is THe Hour for God’s sake?

  • 7 RepublicanFreak // Dec 5, 2007 at 6:31 pm

    I have just spent three hours surfing this blog. This is one of the best public affairs sites in the state. Bravo Turrfgrl!

    Norwalk needs help. Who would come to its rescue? Only the taxpayers. Hopefully, Council members will realize that Salvatore Corda is inept and that his administration has perpetuated a climate of hostility towards anyone that CARES.

    I have the resources to do research and get to the bottom of the Moore issue. Where did she come from? Why a taxpayer should be punished by the evil dees of an administrator that has decimated a once excellent school. Polished floors, plants, flower arrangements do not cut anymore. This Lady is a threat to our school system.

    Who will be accountable for her actions? I am ready to stand up. These are my tax dollars.
    I beg the Councilmembers and the members to ask the hard questions. My grandson attends West Rocks. I will be watching.

    I am fed up! If steps are not taken to fix this soon, I will be ready to contact Governor Rell.

  • 8 Naive // Dec 5, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    #1 Corda, Moore, Morris, et al is that you????

    Guess what? I’m not using a proxy. It’s much better than a proxy.

    Yours Truly,

    Naive

  • 9 Naive // Dec 5, 2007 at 6:59 pm

    #2 Exactly

    And all it would take is #1 et al or whomever is spreading fear to post anonymous death threats on this forum for the purpose to launch a criminal investigation to obtain computer information of the posters of yourct.com

    Double guess what? You do not scare me. Savvy?

    Yours Truly,

    Naive

  • 10 Anonymous // Dec 5, 2007 at 7:19 pm

    #2, #9

    I am also afraid of posting here. Nevetheless, I think that all the posters are savvy enough not to do anything stupid like that.

    I would not harm a fly. Acts of opression are fought with the truth. What what it has been disclosed in this forum about the oppression faced by people at West Rocks is sad enough.

  • 11 Anonymous // Dec 5, 2007 at 8:25 pm

    Naive:

    What could possibly be better than a proxy? Images that come to mind are of you posting at West Rocks on you know who’s computer.

  • 12 Anonymous // Dec 6, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    Reduce the number of useless administrators at the Central Office!

  • 13 bewildered // Dec 12, 2007 at 7:08 am

    Speaking of musical tributes - parents now have to choose between the Candlelight, the BMHS concert and a BOE meeting to make comments that probably won’t be listened to anyway. What a shame things are better planned.

  • 14 Investigator // Dec 13, 2007 at 11:44 am

    It is very important for people to attend the BOE meeting on the 18th of Dec. There is an agenda item to talk about what the heck is going on at
    NHS concerning students who are all over Westport Avenue during the day. Principal Lenny Mecca stated that his concern was not the students outside the campus. What an idiot!!! He said he was focused on those inside the building. Did he ever realize that those cutting classes may be those students in crisis? Marinello’s is now refusing to serve students during the day to discourage them from cutting classes. What is the new carpetbagger Mecca doing??? Having his 45 minutes of quiet time….Yes folks, you heard it here. Every day, behind closed doors, he takes 45 minutes of quiet time. No Principal Left Behind….I think he needs remediation.

    Corda’s refusal to change his mind about h’ing students for cutting homeroom and study hall has created havoc. Now, students meander all over the building and outside its perimeters because there are no consequences for cutting. If Board members read this blog—please revisit this policy. We never had a problem because students were scared to cut HR and SH because of the cuts in the other classes. If one looks back two years, one will see that few students actually lost credit. Corda has once again make a decision, which adversely affects the school.

    Come to the meeting on Tues., Dec. 18th. As parents, we have the right to know what is going on at NHS.

    It wasn’t like this last year under Daddona’s tight reign. What ever anyone thought last year about how strict he was, now, they are saying “Come back Tony, come back; the place is out of control, and this new carpetbagger doesn’t have a clue and doesn’t care. He is laughing all the way to the bank, just like his golf buddy, Corda.”

  • 15 Anonymous // Dec 13, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    Truancy is a problem at other schools, too. Corda and the BOE could save taxpayers money by nipping unexcused absences in the bud.

    The students who perform poorly cannot learn if they are not in class. Someone needs to calculate the total cost each month for unexcused absent students.

  • 16 No excuse for unexcused absences // Dec 13, 2007 at 6:58 pm

    There has always been a need for low-budget solutions to problems for taxpayers.

    Addressing absent students is a profitable item of discussion. Schools get paid per student per day. This would raise revenue AND test scores.

    We can’t afford to let children roam our streets.

  • 17 Anonymous // Dec 13, 2007 at 8:58 pm

    When parents are unable or fail to properly raise a child then the burden is left to taxpaying solutions placing an ever increasing burden on our educational system. Most parents are good mothers and/or fathers but Norwalk historically has a poverty level group with greater needs to address than the wealthy therefore it is essential to have the best leaders to address little matters such as absentee parents and their students. The taxpayers will bear the burden when leadership at the education level fails to address basic education issues such as these. A 45 minute quiet time may be okay for yoga but it has no place when you are being paid the big bucks.

  • 18 Anonymous // Dec 13, 2007 at 9:06 pm

    Perhaps I am taking it too far but Norwalk could very well go down the path of bankruptcy like neighboring towns such Bridgeport.

  • 19 Anonymous // Dec 13, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    Perhaps I am taking it too far but Norwalk could very well go down the path of bankruptcy like neighboring towns such as Bridgeport’s historic financial past. All you need is an uninformed public and a free for all at the political and administrative level. Is it just me or is our city following the same recipe as Bridgeport?

  • 20 Anonymous // Dec 13, 2007 at 9:11 pm

    Corda makes around a quarter million a year. It just goes to show you that money can’t buy everything.

  • 21 Making a Difference // Dec 13, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    How can readers contribute to education stories? I know the opinion section of the Hour. Do newspapers consider anonymous opinion submissions?

  • 22 Anonymous // Dec 14, 2007 at 9:32 am

    #14: Quiet time? Whoever heard of anything like that? He can have his quiet time before school or after school.

    If the NHS situation (not limited to the “quiet time”) is on the BOE agenda, it is now a public issue, and the public has the right to know about it. How bad is it? Is the superintendent addressing this?

  • 23 BottomLine // Dec 16, 2007 at 10:01 am

    Once again, Corda is including Global Studies students when he determined the amount of money BMHS received in its per pupil amount. There are 247 students in the Global Studies times 130$ equals @32 thousand dollars extra money. Of the 247, 147 are students outside the district. Why is this practice continuing???? BMHS’s per pupil amount should be based on 1553 students, not 1663 students. Instead of carefully determining the amount, Corda gave BMHS 32 thousand extra dollars. Someone on the blog was asking about how this Global Studies grant works. I have some questions myself. Why are we, the taxpayers, paying for those students who do not even live in town. This deceptive practice, Dr. Corda, is unfair. Once again, BMHS gets the goods–just like the gorgeous building, while NHS gets the ghetto version.

    The renovation or should I say diaster continues at NHS. We did not get the bamboo floors, oh wait a minute, I forgot, they had to be ripped them out because the idiots glued the bamboo to the concret and it came up. They had to install carpet instead. Or how about the third round of new lockers. NHS had to beg to get new ones, which were about 30+ years.

    They are not replacing the tile throughout the building, so in some cases there are two different tiles that meet. The bathrooms circa 1970s will not be touched either. Broken faucets, toilets that leak…yes, you never know what you will encounter. Most days, there is a half a roll of paper towel lying on the floor to mop up the water from a leaky toilet. Very attractive… Or how about the new heating system that is so loud one cannot hear a student give a response. The flooding in the new science wing has ruin ceiling tiles and how about the mold.

    The bells still cannot be heard in both D or E houses, even though ole Mecca says everything is fine. I think he has allied himself with Amar; if he was an advocate for the school, these things would be fixed.

    They have just recently installed yet another door in one of the poorly constructed house offices. I believe this makes the fourth try. This time it is a metal door. It is too big and is scraping the ceiling tiles; the pieces ends up on the floor. Only one person can get to the mail boxes because they are located behind the door that is getting stuck to the ceiling. The heating unit in EHouse is not flush to the ceiling, and there is some evidence of water damage, which has stained several of the ceiling tiles.

    I could go on and on. Once again, who is in charge of this renovation? On a daily basis, there is shoddy work done, and no one is paying attention. I understand some people bring these problems to the Building Advisory Committee and because Lenny Mecca says everything is fine–nothing is done.

    Lastly, they tried to fix the 30 year old cement steps leading into the building. Come take a look. They took new cement and smeared it on top of old crumbling edges and spots. Yes-we are truly a renovated ghetto school.

    Don’t the students, parents, and teachers deserve better than this diaster. What the hell is the principal doing to make sure we get the best work possible? Well, according to someone, maybe a tour of the building would disrupt his QUIET TIME.

  • 24 Quiet time // Dec 16, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    He should become a preschool teacher so when the children are taking their naps he can have his quiet time.

  • 25 Water leaks = MOLD // Dec 16, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    23. Does BMHS suffer from mold problems? The elementary and middle schools suffered from leaky roofs which had severe mold problems. The mold spores were off the charts but the local officials kept a tight lid on it and supposedly fixed it despite deathly sick teachers and students. More independent tests should be conducted. Independent is what gets things done in our school system.

  • 26 45 Minute Mecca Cost to Taxpayers // Dec 16, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    What is his approximate yearly salary? With that information a calculation of yearly cost to taxpayers for 45 minutes a day of quiet time likely exceeds five figures.

    Then we need to find one taxpayer paying upwards of five figures who approves of his property taxes going exclusively for his quiet time.

  • 27 silent long enough // Dec 16, 2007 at 6:22 pm

    we have had radon issues in the school. Yes they were remediated but in the future the $10,000 dollar plus bill to test for to see if the schools are still safe has to continue.

    Once its been found it needs to be checked every so often to make sure it hasn’t come up in other areas deemed safe.

    So i guess when Rowyaton schools are in question I’m sure the parents there will be the first to ask when is the next round of testing will be.

    Will this be in a line item budget?

    I’m sure there are a lot of armchair experts ready to defend the school so they can get pet projects passed for themselves but seriously are we going to be concerned about our kids or simply ignore industry standard and not test according to the suggested guidlines for schools.

    Where was the entire Brooks labs report anyway?

    what did they recomend for the future?

    Just another shell game by the school dept I’d say.

    where does accountablility stand here?

    its the council who can asks these questions correct?

    Who is the council member on the line?

  • 28 silent long enough // Dec 16, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    this is what other schools other cities do is Norwalk not like any other city or town?

    Some are planning is Norwalk also planning this? a question that needs to be asked and we all know the news media isn’t smart enough to grasp this concept or are they?

    Who are we going to depend on, better yet who are we going to trust with childrens lives?

    thats what I thought.

    Testing and where necessary, mitigating schools for radon and radon decay progeny.
    a. When requested by School District administrators, inform them of the health hazard
    associated with exposure to radon and promote radon testing in schools. Have radon
    test kits available to school districts that care to test for radon.
    STATUS: The DRC was contacted by one school district requesting previously completed
    radon test results for schools in the district. The school district was considering
    additional radon testing in the future

  • 29 Anonymous // Dec 16, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    Can you tell me the schools where health issues such as MOLD and RADON existed?

  • 30 Anonymous // Dec 17, 2007 at 12:19 am

    I know the Food and Drug Association filed a report on the problem of radon gas in schools. The American Lung Association has been active in educating the public about the radon hazard in schools and radon’s link to lung cancer.

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