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Norwalk: Rethinking Public Education, Part of a Series


by turfgrrl


November 19th, 2007 · 15 Comments

The Norwalk public school system is rife with issues that the BOE should be tackling. On the subject of leadership on the Board itself, its time for change, and I hope they pick someone who is willing to ask questions and lead.

But the BOE, oversight, transparency, teacher morale, operations and educational achievement are only part of the picture. Tonight I’m going to focus on the the venerable school bus. Until relatively late in life, I never had to take a school bus to school. I lived within a few blocks of my elementary schools and within 2 miles of the my middle schools. So I’m biased, for those who need hints, against school buses.

Norwalk is fortunate to have a bus mass transit option that is mostly underutilized. That is a shame. For me at least, a creative solution would be to reroute children needing transportation to schools through the Norwalk bus system. Amy school age child would get a bus pass, enabling them to ride free in the system. The need for a fleet of specialized school buses would be reduced. Because children use the buses, they might become adults using the system. Long term, less cars on the roads.

Helicopter parents would be fearful of kids actually learning how to independently travel in our great city, but the intrinsic benefits, other than maximizing use of mass transit, would be to free parents from the routine chauffeur tasks. Maybe those parents could attend a BOE meeting or two. Who knows.  Kids who might have to walk to bus stops as they navigate town, might get more exercise than the current door to door options they have. That would free the BOE of worrying about childhood obesity. There are parts of Norwalk that might not have a bus route, but then with the possibility of  the price crude oil hitting $150/barrel  by spring of next year we might want to rethink transportation corridors that we could all benefit from.

Tags: Education · In the News · Norwalk

15 Responses so far “Norwalk: Rethinking Public Education, Part of a Series”



  • 1 anonymous // Nov 19, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    If we can we put WRMS principle Lynne Moore on one of those buses heading straight out of town, I am all for it!

  • 2 Anon432 // Nov 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    Hey, #1. you forgot the PAL in principal! I guess she has also forgotten.

  • 3 anonymous // Nov 19, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    Turfgirl, you are choosing dollars over children. Jody Bishop-Pullafastone would not approve.

  • 4 anon // Nov 19, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    Interesting idea TG. Getting more people to use out bus system is a smart thing to pursue.

  • 5 AB // Nov 20, 2007 at 9:18 am

    Sounds good for the high schools (and I think Briggs already uses this system). I have concerns about the proposal for younger students.

  • 6 Vet Park Junkie // Nov 20, 2007 at 11:07 am

    So, Turfgrrl, I arise to find this. Bussing? You don’t like school busses? I loved boarding the school bus. A joyous interlude of freedom between parents and teachers, I mused. Hmmm, you know? It was a city bus that was used for student transport. Click. Maybe you’re on to something? Nah! You’ve got to address these issues logically! With all of the expenses in the school district, you are focusing on busses? Feeling smug, I closed the window and trundled off to work.

    While listening to an endless pitch, I pulled up the BOE 2005-06 actual budgets and sorted the expense line items by actual amount spent. Humm,

    Teachers (Non-Ratio) $52,917,668
    Fringe Benefits $23,101,376
    Other Certified $5,644,863
    Principals $5,092,825
    Student Trans Serv $4,590,266

    What? Holy Batman! Bussing is the first non-compensation item! Mumble, mumble, maybe you’re on to something?… Let’s see… That year, Student Trans Serv was $199,331 under budget, an amount that would pay for both new Police Deputy Chiefs.

    Humm, again.

  • 7 nwlknative // Nov 20, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    Using public transportation for High School and even Middle School children is a great idea. When you see 14 or more school buses lined up at NHS in the afternoon and most leave the school half full or even less, one can easily see how our money is being wasted. There are always a bunch of students waiting at Nathan Hale and NHS for the Norwalk Transit bus. Why - where are these children going that the school buses don’t go? If they are being counted in numbers for school buses and then taking public transportation, isn’t that also a waste of money?

  • 8 Anonymous // Nov 20, 2007 at 2:13 pm

    This does sounds like a good idea for the older students. Fewer cars and less noise, air, traffic, pollution. Norwalk is supposed to be a GREEN city right?

  • 9 Mr Greenpeace // Nov 20, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    #7 you may find the school busses are not as safe, this year alone my kids have been on regular Norwalk school busses where police were called to remove students on a regular basis. Suppose if you have pay for the ride only the honest hard working students you see on public transportation are on a survival mode.Mode to go home alive or unhurt.

    See when you live and breath in any city you would want the city officials to experience what you do, how you live and the hurdles its takes to teach these children and send them to school to come home safe.

    Before one starts in with public transportation lets hear from the ones that don’t take it from fear. What makes anyone think once you get on a bus your safe.I guess you have to live it to understand it a problem we now have had for years with city planners and officials.

    I think its time to go to walmart and buy a thinking cap for the whole crew, obviously some people simply don’t get it.

    I keep saying it until the city gets things under control we will not have a productive city. How you can read about shootings and stabbings and rape and think we can move on to public transportation..

    Just last week some old guy got punched in the face and yes they arrested someone, but another will come along and punch another old guy until we stop the process.

    maybe the city as a whole should rethink safety befoe we try and be on the move.

  • 10 Mr Greenpeace // Nov 20, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    the old guy was on a public bus I know how I lose readers with my rants. Too bad we didn’t have a police blotter out here on the blog so you could see whats going on. Keep it to just facts and open thread on what crime happened last night when all are safe in their warm bed away from gunshots and crime.

  • 11 Anonymous // Nov 20, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    Is Norwalk really this shady? Should I not have just purchased a home here?

  • 12 DO NOT USE PROJECTBYPASS // Nov 20, 2007 at 4:24 pm

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  • 13 Secret Southpark Club // Nov 21, 2007 at 4:43 am

    It’s not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your Butters.

    I’m taking my ritalin pills now.

  • 14 Are You Kidding Me // Nov 21, 2007 at 10:55 am

    School children riding the Wheels bus? Are you crazy? This is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard. Every pervert in town will be filling the buses. What about the transfer at Belden Ave. Its no place I would have my elementary school child walking between buses.

    Not to mention the state requires every town to provide school buses.

    I know you like to criticize the BoE but at least try to know what you are talking about.

  • 15 Busing school children // Nov 21, 2007 at 11:13 am

    #14: It is not a novel idea. The state requirement might be covered by providing bus transportation (not necessarily “school buses”).

    Another thought is to have one “school” bus go to each neighborhood and pick up ALL the kids, then drop them off at their respective schools. Why must we have multiple pickups at the same corners?

    If there is a concern about perverts, the children section could be reserved for children only (during the school bus hours.)

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