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Norwalk: BOE Debate Roughly Speaking


by turfgrrl


October 25th, 2007 · 11 Comments

This is a rough rough draft of the debate. Most people spoke to fast for my typing tonight. Sorry about the paraphrasing and the lack of commentary, but I’ll put it all in perspective tomorrow.

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Here we are at the BOE debate, and frankly its depressing. The audience can be described as political flunkies, other candidates, BOE members, PTO members, the high school class that has to be here and about 12 other people including the press, which includes me.

Onto to the opening statements.

Migdalia Rivas: Spent time taking advocacy courses to learn how to get help within her community. She knows the needs of her community in schools.

Susan Hamilton: Is seeking re-election, member of curriculum committee and holds Masters in special ed and that her experience on the board and professionally.

Greg Vetter: Norwalk Public School graduate and taught at a Norwalk school last year. BOE must continue to improve quality of education.

Jodi Bishop-Pullan: 19 years involved in schools. Volunteers in after school programs and believes that improving school curriculum and that high levels of achievement have been achieved.

Jack Chiarmonte: Two children and business and concerned parent. Finance committee has not met, this is not good financial management, We have serious problems, there is educational damage and low moral amongst teachers.

Ellen Wink: Bachelors in science, diverse district, advocate for getting the BOE back into the community. Never voted on a matter without knowing everything about an issue, will commit to holding meetings.

[More people are showing up, this is good. Some of them are political flunkies though.]

Maria Lopez: Financial background and professional experience after immigrating to here, to bring transparency and accountability to the BOE.

Greg Iannacone: Masters of Public Administration, firefighter. We have a failing school system, why aren’t the test scores rising, why does the BOE buy furniture that it doesn’t need?

Mike Harden: Norwalk school system is in jeopardy. We need to step up and offer solutions. The administration gets raises while teachers take their own money to buy supplies for the classroom. Misallocation of funds is unacceptable. A more business centric approach. We must make changes now.

Q. What current policy of procedure will you change or improve upon.

Migdalia Rivias: There’s not enough time for the BOE to do their homework. I can’t pick one policy to change because I need to look at them all. My choice is parental involvement, we have to reach into the community. There are lot of things that are working, the xxxxxx specialists that are helping children in the elementary schools.

Susan Hamilton: Public Relations needs to be improved upon and to let the public know about the good things that are happening in the schools. Public forums on specific topics could be held. Email is not accessible to everyone, we need to improve that method of communication. Parent training to teach how to work with the schools is important.

Greg Vetter: Instructional policies need to be looked at. Some recent changes have helped, like changing middle school instruction on fiction and non-fiction to reading and writing. Further explore homework policies.

Jodi Bishop-Pullan: Three things to improve student achievement. Higher standards, more time spent … Wants to improve student achievement by working with structured supervised time in after school programs.

Jack Chiarmonte: Disparity of the school curriculums, imposed unequally. Finance appalled at lack of fiduciary responsibility. Board has neglected its duty. BOE is intimated to avoid providing guidance, oversight and transparency.

Ellen Wink: Policy for reimbursement to the teachers for direct instructional expenses. Lack of supplies for direct student instruction. It will be the most impact to the students. Our polices and procedures for our schools need review.

Maria Lopez: A curriculum audit. We need to look at other methods of teaching. The five year curriculum that has been used for the last 4 years is not closing the achievement gap. Engage our teachers in the process. We have excellent and talented teachers in Norwalk, we have a lax administration.

Glen Iannacone: Emergency preparedness process of the school district. Schools need to be prepared for an emergency.

Mike Harden: All those children gets 30 minutes of exercise every 7-9 days. That is enough. As a policy on studying this? The BOE should be looking at this.

Q. Improve BOE relationship with City Governemnt:

Wink: We work for the tax payers and students. You have to earn a respect for a good communication.

Hamilton: More communication, attend each others meetings on a regular basis. The biggest problem is around the budget process. We need to have a continuous dialog about the budget.

Q. What would be the first thing you would do if elected:

Lopez: To form committees. To ensure openness and transparency on the board. During budgetary time, the finance committee only met once in 2 years. There needs to be more due diligence.

Rivas: Engaging the parents in the community, you need a strong voice in the community. Common Council meeting is the same day as the BOE, that should change. That the agenda of the BOE be sent home to the parents and that communication become clearer.

Q. How would you get the BOE message to the parents.

Iannacone: I would use the internet, but also we have a channel on cablevision that is accessible for city news. You have to send the information home, and let the parents ahead of time longer just posted in the city clerks office.

Q. How would you decrease the contention between BOE, Teachers Union and the city.

Chiarmonte: We have a failure to communicate. Teachers are scared to come and have an open forum. A severe lack of communication. We are not working together and that money allocated get rid of secret meetings, and get rid of executive meetings. Put the meetings on tv.

Vetter: Teachers are not attending the BOE meeting, or the teachers union meetings. Research and input from the public and teachers and administrators and outside consultants need to happen.

Q. Districts to improve district wide literacy

Harden: What we are talking is teaching our children. The board is striving to meet the bare mininum, which we haven’t met. The sytems is broken. We have to run the BOE more like a business, the business of teaching our children. Teachers are scared to raise their voices and tell us what they need, by fixing the system and bringing in the people who are in charge of doing all this that will fix itself.

Pullan: The reading scores have been flat, we have 12 literacy coaches and 6 literacy specialists that are working in our schools. That process can work to increase and differentiate instruction for children to learn literacy. There’s a new program to focus on improvements in comprehension and writing.

Q. How can you ensure safe school environments?

Hamilton: There are visitors badges and officers in the schools. Having a good PA system and phone system helps.

Wink: Review our policies and procedures on as needed basis and yearly basis. There isn’t one plan that works we have to review those that are working and those that are not.

Q. Top issue facing education in Norwalk?

Rivas: Parental involvement in the community. Its all about the parents and the community and accountability making sure that what is being taught in the classroom is up to par.

Lopez: Curriculum and spending, higher standards in evaluating standards of the students, curriculum, and stop demanding more money form the tax payers and more accountability from the administration. We need to form open comitteess, we need better notices, on the internet and on tv. Move the BOE meetings out of city hall into the schools. We need to show respect to our teachers, an administrator came to school

Q. Number one priority?

Iannacone: Number one priority is the get the most bang for out buck. We are spending more than the state average. We are near the last of several DRG categories, we need use the price waterhouse study and see $7 million in cost savings.

Q. What would you do to ensure collaboration with the party opposite yours?

Vetter: In the last 4 years the BOE has worked well together, there haven’t any 5-4 splits. You have to work together to do what best.

Chiarmonte: THe BOE should be more apolitical it goes beyond party affilialtion, not matter who is on the board. You need to have good communication. When they voted on the contract, they threw it on the table took no inout and voted on it in 5 minutes. We need to be more open, we’re all in this together.

Q. What would you do differently?

Pullan: Increase community involvement. We need more forums and feedback and get involved in advisory committees. We need community backing to achieve those goals. More surveys.

Harden: There’s a lot I would like to do, try to run it more like a business. Democrats put $450k into the price water house audit, and it sat on the shelf. Things would move faster if it were managed better. THe BOE is like the board of directors. They need to guide and direct what the administrators need to do.

CLOSING STATEMENTS

Rivas: We need more youth programs.
Hamilton: Knowledge of curriculum and best practices makes me more effective.
Vetter: Students deserve the best education possible.
Pullan: Continue to do a good job.
Chiarmonte: You need to have results. BOE has not done a good job.
Wink: An incoming tide floats all boats. A BOE that answers only to the taxpayers, students and teachers.
Lopez: Quality education for all of our students. Our children desrve better. Out teachers deserve respect.
Iannacone: The budget wasn’t picked apart by the BOE shows that the system isn’t working.
Harden: We need to make a change, balance the current by adding business minded people. Disagrees with how the board has been run, more active sub committee system, committee system.

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11 Responses so far “Norwalk: BOE Debate Roughly Speaking”



  • 1 CranburyBoy // Oct 26, 2007 at 5:29 am

    Is it any wonder that the public is put off by such demonstrations? The entire event is designed for the comfort of the candidates. “Questions-on-card” are given to the moderator, who, after filtering them, asks the the same question posed by 10 minor variations in phrasing. There was no direct public questioning of candidates, no randomness, no FIRE! The format is improperly called a debate because there is very little in the way of questioning, argument, or extemporaneous response. Last night’s format favored those sitting on the right side of the panel, since they nearly always spoke last. That said, the BOE incumbents looked pathetically weak. They were knocked on their heals early and kept there throughout.

    It was particularly rich to hear Bishop-Pullan call for higher standards as this BOE has presided over Corda’s “dumbing down” agenda: eliminating the “zero”, testing “do-overs”, easing of homework requirements, eradication of penalties for cutting classes, etc.

    Change to the conduct of local debates should consider actually engaging the electorate rather than wrapping the candidates in a nice, warm “security blanket”. There needs to be some head-to-head argumentation, so voters can see who can think on their feet. There needs to be more pointed questioning, the leveling fairness of random selection, and something to shake the deadly torpor. Perhaps candidates could stand and move to a podium. Response times could be cut below the usual two minutes to effect concise, efficient response.

  • 2 Won't Get Fooled Again // Oct 26, 2007 at 8:27 am

    There is no real interest in illuminating the problems found in city agencies, policies, or the elected officials in Norwalk by either the media or those who are conducting and moderating these debates.

    Hence, the real issues will languish in obscurity, the qualifications of those who are running will remain unquestioned (the alleged bankruptcy of Moccia, for one), and the election will come and go without any real changes being made.

    The media should be all over this election like a cheap suit and exposing the points that have been brought up again and again on this blog. Where are they?

    Not that I expect the Hour to engage in any real investigative journalism since it’s basically a propaganda tool of City Hall and the Chamber of Commerce. I still have hope that the Advocate can pick up the slack.

  • 3 Democrat // Oct 26, 2007 at 11:40 am

    Turfgirl, thanks for good coverage of the debates. Having attended way too many of these, it sounded like a fairly good turn-out, although the format has gone downhill it seems. A whole high school class in attendance is something new. I’m curious as to your definition of “political flunkie.” Maybe I qualify…

  • 4 turfgrrl // Oct 26, 2007 at 12:13 pm

    Democrat: The loose definition: Anyone involved in politics to the extent that they serve on boards, commissions, agencies, town committees or work on campaigns. It kinda covers a lot of ground, and of course I have my days as political flunkie too.
  • 5 Democrat // Oct 26, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    Well TG,that is a really negative comment about the people who are willing to volunter their time to run our city and make democracy possible by working on campaigns. What’s wrong with that?

  • 6 ENrwlker // Oct 26, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    Democrat, I don’t think Turfie meant it negatively, but Turf, you should try a different term; this one has some pretty negative connotations. Among the dictionary definitions:
    A toady; a yes-man.
    A person of slavish or unquestioning obedience; a lackey.
    One who does menial or trivial work; a drudge.
    While there are certainly plenty of such people in politics and government, its too broad-brush to apply it to EVERYONE involved in politics.
    I think “politicos” captures it better — people involved in politics, often enjoying politics, but very often leaders and hard-workers who genuinely care about the community, too, not mere “lackeys”.

  • 7 JCR // Oct 26, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    Ooops, I am agreeing with a “Democrat” will wonders never cease.I think turfgirl’s answer was correct. My agreement with “Democrat” is based on his/her perception of reading thru the lines in typical Democratic fashion and feeling that the remarks were negitive rather then taking the information as intended.

    This bears out the premise that “Democrats” as a whole look at things from the glass is half empty perspective,and “Democrat” knows how sometimes these or those politicos “Political Flunkies” can be decisive and be underhanded.Does making this judgement that the remarks made by T.G. were negititive show the real colors of his/her party operitives.

    The engaged people I know on or in the other party are just caring, passionate and engaged and have the best interests of the community at heart and are willing to put there selves out there to make a positive difference with clarity and indepth sense of what they want to accomplish for the good of the whole with in the perametors of their office and the reasonable budgets that are sensibly arrived at.

    Thank GOD, OOPS again I said the “G” word There are clear choices to be made in this up coming election. Keep the wonderful people in the minority on the coucil who have broughtsensibility to the council and have been part of the consensous group, increase the council with more sensible people to keep the ball rolling.

    The B.O.E. race also gives us voters clear choices. Get rid of the problem, vote out the rascals and bring in some fresh blood who are willing to stand up to the Monarcy and do the peoples work for the sake of our children and tax payers.

  • 8 turfgrrl // Oct 26, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Democrat: I’m not getting the negative part, but figure that if I lump myself in the flunkie category, that the context is more akin to type of political animal, that would be in the aristotle context, that we all are.
  • 9 turfgrrl // Oct 26, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    ENrwlker: Ah I see what you mean about the standard use of flunkie. But I have a whole universe of flunkie, junkie and wonkie to dally with in my word tool box. It’s an addiction you see … words welded together where others dare not tread.
  • 10 eagle's eye, on the ball // Oct 28, 2007 at 12:31 am

    Okay some of the freethinkers are awakening.
    Lets keep the ball rolling and put people in office
    that are competent of the issues and the concerns of the parents, teachers, students and taxpayers. Alot of what is reflected in tg’s blogs is negative and even outright rude with vulgar terminology. Please respect our moderators request to refrain from spitting out street slurs. Gentlemen and women. We know whats wrong, lets drop the particianship venting and get to work. Get everyone you know to register and inform themselves properly and lets all get out and ROCK THE VOTE.
    Thank you tg for your efforts and time, it is enormously appreciated and welcomed. Our childrens future is in our hands. No time to waste name calling which accomplishes nothing. How about suggestions.
    How about 8pm basketball, How about longer school hours, how about a theatrical production program, why do all surronding towns have at least a school radio broadcast, some even have video broadcasts, what about school pod casts for news sports and events. A school bowling team. And can someone tell me why if Joe Klien in NY can get Gates assistance why cant we. Corda’s 1.2 million sweet deal, surely could put a laptop on every students desk, since the new books are under lock and key. Yes we need to think out of the box and take action. The apathetic complacency of dont make waves is an approach that will find ourselves in a storm that can sink the ship of our childrens future. Yes I am mad as hell, and will not take it anymore but insults just vents, it doesnt make it better. How about taking the old pd hq rehabing it to a teen center for venues that catch our childrens imagination. JUST DO SOMETHING besides venting. We know of the utter incompetence and yes even corruption. So stop griping and start communicating ideas. We love our children, so lets do something positive to promote bright futures.
    Lets all stop pointing fingers and get busy preparing our children for the enormous challenges that surely await them. If you dont get involved, dont contribute, you forfeit your right to gripe. Get up stand up and do the right thing.
    Tip of the hat to you tg for providing this forum for us all to connect and share our comments concerns and questions.

  • 11 Mr Greenpeace // Oct 28, 2007 at 1:25 am

    like yout style #10 and with all respect I won’t even throw down a rant.

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