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Norwalk: Briggs–”I never even conceived that someone would put an oil tank farm in that area”


by turfgrrl


August 30th, 2007 · 20 Comments

Well, well, well. The whole point of a planning commission is to foresee what kinds of commercial uses you want in Norwalk. That’s why its called planning. But having a vision and idea about what the future Norwalk should be like is going to be the political theater this year and so today’s papers outline the first mild political battle over the oil tank distribution business that was planned for 350 Ely avenue. Many have referred to it as a tank farm, which connotes the idea that somehow oil tanks will be grown or raised, or something like that. In reality, the business is more akin to a gas station except that the fuel is home heating oil, the kind of stuff that sits in hundreds of gallons tanks in most Norwalk homes. But I digress.

The issue is now who has the bigger idea in the race to grab the high ground on moving Norwalk into a 21st century city. In one corner, we have Briggs, who managed to drop the ball on disallowing oil distribution facilities in restricted industrial zones. He then decides to come out against the application as planning commission chair, resigns his chairmanship and jumps on the bandwagon to express outrage and a staged political event on the site last week.

In the other corner we have Moccia who encourages a film production agency to buy the adjacent property and then suggests that this area be turned into a light industrial zone to accommodate film studios and sound stages.

We of course can expect to sit back and watch the spectacle of the self important political flunkies to make hay of “solving” this oil storage facility use problem over in the death cage floor of the common council. Our favorite pomposity Matt Miklave plans to discuss the master plan at an upcoming planning committee meeting. The planning committee is not to be confused with the planning commission. The planning committee being comprised of council members while the commission is of residents who are appointed. Miklave said, “The whole idea of having a master plan is that there be a long-range vision for our city,” in the Hour report. “I don’t think you create a long-range vision by responding to every little thing that comes up”

So while Miklave is thinking he’s throwing Moccia under the political bus, he’s actually throwing Briggs under the bus. Sometimes it helps if you have a plan before you speak about an issue your mayoral candidate is vulnerable on. But planning apparently is not a forte of this crew of Democrats. Meanwhile, Moccia has a plan, and has stated it. 21st century digital production, we welcome you. And with it the high tech jobs that will fill the SoNo eateries and, um, empty storefronts with people. Now that’s a plan.
source: The Hour, Moccia urges second look at zoning, by Robert Koch, August 30, 2007

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20 Responses so far “Norwalk: Briggs–”I never even conceived that someone would put an oil tank farm in that area””



  • 1 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 9:41 am

    You know, as a member of the Zoning Commission that ruled on Gault’s application, I think you’re even closer to being out of line with your statements here than you were last time. And don’t claim it’s “all about the hypocrisy of Briggs’ prior positions”.

  • 2 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 9:43 am

    Moccia is just jumping on the bandwagon, once again. The man can’t think past the next drink he’s going to be ordering at the bar in the Norwalk Motor Inn.

    Laurel Lindstrom brought up the issue of accommodating the film industry way before anyone in the City did.

  • 3 #13 of the Miserable 25 // Aug 30, 2007 at 10:00 am

    “Laurel Lindstrom brought up the issue of accommodating the film industry way before anyone in the City did.”

    Excellent observation. You might also remember that she was criticized by some who said her idea of a oversight group might be formed to help Norwalk get more film work, and to make it safer for the citizens, the film makers, and especially to see that the taxpayer is not paying for any of the films expenses.

    Around Norwalk, an original idea is considered a “Threat.”

    They were ready to turn Tomás de Torquemada loose on her.

  • 4 turfgrrl // Aug 30, 2007 at 10:13 am

    Anonymous 1: Do you see me commenting on the merits of the application? No, I’m commenting on the planning commission’s raison d’etre.
  • 5 turfgrrl // Aug 30, 2007 at 10:19 am

    “Laurel Lindstrom brought up the issue of accommodating the film industry way before anyone in the City did”

    The advantages to being elected to something or appointed to something are that you get to move an idea to the next stage of public policy. Laurel may in fact have had an idea, but it is Moccia who is actually making something happen. Was it Laurel who enticed a film production company to that location? I think not.

  • 6 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 10:38 am

    You’re giving credit to Moccia et al for enticing the film industry to the area? I believe that accolade belongs to the state for the tax credits they’ve made available to film makers. Give me a break.

  • 7 anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 10:39 am

    Maybe the Gault Oil Tank Farm would be a good fit for the former Knitwear factory site they are tearing down today…

  • 8 turfgrrl // Aug 30, 2007 at 10:44 am

    Anonymous 6: Uh yeah. There’s a new film production studio that just bought a building in Norwalk, as opposed to any other city. Why not give credit to Moccia?
  • 9 Mr Greenpeace // Aug 30, 2007 at 10:47 am

    what I still see is a parcel in the city that needs to be cleaned up, water was still pooling around the site after the last rain. Court records , EPA records, and google accounts of the site never made in into the news, why was that. If I’m not mistaken a landmark court case years ago involving the taking of this property made news and the owners won.

    I love to rant so what is being planned for any of the brownfield sites?

    What backroom deals are being made by whom before we read them in whatever paper thinks the environment that week needs press coverage?

    Now with the brownfield report coming woudn’t it be prudent for the planning committee to hear back from others in the city where some of these parcels may exist?

    certain issues have come up, care to share with the public?

    Why dwell on any one issue that may effect thousands of people we only care about what a handful ,,the handful who vote.

    Isn’t this the type of thinking that gets us all into trouble,,tunnel vision can be corrected by community involvement,,where does each section of the city have a group who live, eat drink and sleep in effected ares contribute input where they don’t have to protest or call our news hound and hope for a story?

    There also seems to be a barrier, language is one of them illegals living in taxable property by landlords who won’t go to city hall ever while they own proprty here in the city,

    I would hope that the planning commision would address quality of life issues when planning for industrial uses not where the parcel is located or who owns it.

    Still I would like to know what issues have come up, it would help to understand what is going to go on in what part of the city before another Gault.

    Any one know if the windows were boarded up on the building that had the gas pipe break or has it been taken down yet?

    be nice to shift to the here and now for a change..

  • 10 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 10:50 am

    #3 Your statement about Lindstrom is an outright lie. Films were being made in the city becasue of the efforts of Tad Disle. Her article appeared months after the movies were being made. She wanted another committee formed ala Alex Knopp, The process is moving along fine, the city does not need another committee. Lindstrom had nothing to do wtih movies coming in anymore than other city projects that she tries to take credit for. yes the Tax Credit helped, but the admistraton put forth an active campaing to being the movies to Norwalk and also to bring the production studio.

  • 11 #13 of the Miserable 25 // Aug 30, 2007 at 11:17 am

    OK Nostradomus.

  • 12 John Leonetti // Aug 30, 2007 at 11:22 am

    Re post 5

    I should hope so he is the Mayor and that is his job.

  • 13 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 11:25 am

    “nothing to do wtih movies coming in anymore than other city projects that she tries to take credit”

    My My do I detect a bit of jealously or fear in your voice?

  • 14 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 11:27 am

    #13 What your detect is the truth, not fear which you seem to reject.

  • 15 Mr Greenpeace // Aug 30, 2007 at 11:29 am

    Its funny this week alone I know of three commercials being filmed in backyards of Norwalk residents, mine is scheduled for next week, Then in Sept the Righteous Kill is coming in to film, my house again will be in there somewhere in the mix,,all the scouts all the film crew and advace people knew nothing about this gut Tad Disle but got their info and maps from that tourist info center at the Mansion,,but not once did his name get mentioned.

    Then there was the trade magazine that came out and had arrticle on all of the above, studio, ads and movies in the area being shot and no where in there did anyones name from the city come up,,only Jodie Rells tax breaks..

    We do have on Ct ave a place that does liquor and Movie pr and focus groups and have nothing to do with Norwalk.

    So who ever is responsible for what should tell someone else the check I got I earned by writing in and submitting pictures of my house and back yard with out anyones help.

    The cab companies are making out good any good news hound can ask the cabbies where all the extra,s from NY city are going as many as 70 a day coming and going from the train station,,To bad they wern’t being dropped off in a friendly part of town..the stories we have heard is not what Norwalk is all about we are a nice city but can not prove it by the extra’s.

  • 16 anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    Why is the chair of the planning committee going after his own mayoral candidate ? Matthew Miklave should not be going after his own party’s mayoral candidate. Is he just sour that his own mayoral hopes were squelched by the democratic party leadership ? He should be taken to the woodshed for this latestt episode.

  • 17 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    A lot of people over the decades never conceived that a Privately owned Miniature Golf Course would come under “Park Purposes” but Mr Nolan unchallenged as of yet, thought so. So what the hell is the big deal about not thinking about oil tanks being a factor?

    100 years from now the Gault property could be a landing site for alien space crafts visiting SoNo and Reed Putnam. Then who ya gonna call?

  • 18 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    #17 First Peter Nolin did not give a ruling on Veterans
    Park, it was Jeff Spahr who reseached and gave a history supported by law. We know of course any legal opinion can be questioned, but Jeff Spahr is not a poltical empoyee and his reputation for portecting the city is well known. In addition the Mayor has said he is opposed to a minature course. Now I know those that hate this man will say he will be bought off and change his mind. But that is where we are now, so one more attempt to stop the misinformation.

  • 19 Anonymous // Aug 30, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    Re post #18

    “We know of course any legal opinion can be questioned,”

    Of course, history supported by what law? The law of Spahr? He gives his opinion, wrong or right. There is no guarantee it will stand against a law suit.

    You can throw legalise all you want. It is a bad decision and has at least several cases where deed restrictions were upheld when appealed. If you know the law, it is not what we think is the definition of “Park purposes” today, but what “Park Purposes” meant in 1911. Just as some city employee might decide in 110 years from now that Park Purposes means that any park can be used for storing Portapottys.

    AND REMEMBER you brought the mayor into this I didn’t even mention him. In fact he never came into mind until you injected him in the conversation.

  • 20 here we go again // Sep 10, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    the oil men are back again, time for a oil tank farm :)

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