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Norwalk: Who-hoo Burnett Kicks Away The Rubber Stamp


by turfgrrl


August 10th, 2007 · 26 Comments

Times they are a changing over at the BOE. While they still hold secret meetings, at least according to the Amanda Pinot article in The Hour which mentions to email notice only of a meeting that the public was not told about, Greg Burnett held steady and refused to allow educational policy changes to precede without discussion. Greg, talk to Bruce Kimmel about getting items on the agenda. We pick up from Pinto’s story:

The agenda noted the committee would discuss a timeline for full board discussion of several issues. It did not, however, allow for the members — Board Chairwoman Jody Bishop-Pullan, committee Chairwoman Susan Hamilton, Greg Burnett, and Migdalia Rivas — to delve into the specifics of about a half dozen policies.

Lack of discussion on these items seemed to trouble Burnett, who said he wanted to discuss the individual policies — which include those about homework, promotion and retention, and change of grade placement.

“We’ve got to utilize our time better,” Burnett said of the meeting. “This is a waste.”
The meeting — which was noticed through e-mail though it saw no attendance from the public — came after board member Bruce Kimmel, in a recent interview, discussed his concern with the boards’ commitment to noticing and frequently holding its committee meetings.

Thursday’s meeting was dominated by questions about what falls under the board’s purview, and how items submitted by Assistant Superintendent of Curriculum and Instruction Karen Lang, should be submitted to the full board.

“Should we, as the policy committee be giving the board our recommendation, view, etcetera, or basically that we’re telling Karen to bring it to the board, that’s our stamp of approval?,” Burnett asked.

Hamilton said the board conformed with Burnett’s latter point.

Burnett said he couldn’t provide such a stamp without discussing the policies with the board, and voiced frustration about the board’s inability to discuss the specific policies since they were not noted on the agenda.

“I think it’s a shame we can’t sit here right now and look at these in detail and see if they’re ready,” he said. “I’m not comfortable saying ‘take these to the board’ before we as a committee have the opportunity for dialogue and discussion about this.”

Hamilton said the board discussed the policies before, but Burnett said they were not in completed form at the time.

The committee — at Burnett’s request — agreed to hold a meeting Aug. 21, with discussion of promotion and retention at the elementary level, early acceptance to kindergarten, change of grade placement, progress reports, and elementary level homework policies on the agenda.

And Burnett did even better asking that Karen Lang, the erstwhile develop of incoherent educational policies, or someone from her office to show up and explain to the BOE what the policies are meant to do.

Can the rest of the BOE kick the rubber stamp habit?

The Hour: Policy committee meeting ends in frustration, By AMANDA PINTO, August 9, 2007

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26 Responses so far “Norwalk: Who-hoo Burnett Kicks Away The Rubber Stamp”



  • 1 Silence Dogood // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:42 am

    As we know, the King and Queen demonstrate their imperious ways toward the BOE. Mr. Burnett, thank you for asking the necessary questions about the policies, which the Royals are trying to rush through the BOE process without significant input from either the entire Board or the public.

    It is time to behead the King and Queen — figuratively speaking, of course.

  • 2 Slayer // Aug 10, 2007 at 8:55 am

    Once again, it is obvious that Corda and Lang are trying to force their dumbing-down policies on the district students. Teachers and parents are not embracing these policies, which totally enable students to perform at the lowest level possible. Retaking tests, not receiving grades lower than fifty, and handing in homework late will accomplish what? Aren’t the teachers suppose to hold the students to the highest expectations possible? What research upholds this kind of nonsense? Give the public the researchers, the data, the results. How big was the sampling? Where were the studies done? They continue to throw around the phrase, “According to the research…..”; however, after twenty-five years of reading research, I have never read such dribble. Why is the discussion behind closed doors? The board members have a right to be angry. Their political futures rest on doing the right thing concerning these policies. Why not visit some of the schools and hear what the teachers in the trenches have to say. Please do not take the words of Corda and Lang as what should be implemented. They have not been to any classrooms. They have not listened to the teachers or the students for that matter. If these policies are approved, they will adversely affect the performance of students. All you have to do is look at the recent CMT scores. The middle school that embraces these policies has the lowest scores in reading, writing, and math in the district. Way to go Corda and Lang! How about that data? Right here in our backyard. Wake up and listen to those who know what to do in a classrom.

  • 3 ANonymous // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:00 am

    Would love to know how well the students that are socially prompted from West Rocks are doing at the high school level. I have heard that this policy of retaking tests until you pass policy sends them to high school prepared to fail. Instead of fixing the problem, we change the high school policy so they pass and are prepared to fail in life.

  • 4 ANonymous // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:13 am

    Actually, I will bet Slayer answered my question about West Rocks in post #2. It is a failed policy. Bet west rocks looks like a great school, everyone passes.

  • 5 anon // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:34 am

    It’s clear that Lang’s objective is to reduce the standards so that test scores get padded. It didn’t work in Greenwich and it shouldn’t get the opportunity to dumb down our schools here.

  • 6 Watchingandlistening // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:54 am

    Kudos to Greg for finally recognizing the responsibilities of being a member of the BOE.

    Maybe he and Kimmel can help remove the “curtain” from the goings on.

    As to your question: Can the rest of the BOE kick the rubber stamp habit?
    I do not believe it is possible with existing BOE members. The budget fiasco demonstrated that only Greg and Bruce would question the “Corda trio”.
    Voting in November is the best chance to change the BOE.

  • 7 Silence Dogood // Aug 10, 2007 at 9:57 am

    Near the end of the article in The Hour, there is a quote: “Burnett requested that Lang, or someone from her office, attend that meeting to help the committee understand law changes and policy specifics.”

    I fully expect that Lang will be “unavailable” and that she will send a subordinate to represent her, probably one of the instructional specialists or one of her directors.

    I echo the comments about West Rocks as the source of these policies. No one I know points to that school as a model for others to emulate. Data? The CMT data, which is the most important because of No Child Left Behind, is quite damning of whatever is going on in that school. NHS teachers have found that WRMS students have learned behaviors and attitudes that make it more difficult for them to succeed at Norwalk H. S. Teachers who responded to a survey (also done at BMHS) were opposed to the proposed changes by an overwhelming margin.

  • 8 Charles the Hammer // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    Is anyone really suprised at these latest variations on “Three Card Monty” by “Shifty” Corda and his bunco gang? Let’s review:

    1. Highly dubious budgetary claims that were revealed to be incredibly inflated.

    2. Operation of an illegal and discriminatory mentoring program (Emerging Scholars) where student eligibilty was base solely on race. Program since cancelled.

    3. Bypassing customary hiring practices for recruitment of minority employees.

    4. Inadequate public explanation of rationale for radical changes to grading, attendance, promotion, and homework policies as well as weak interpretation of standardized testing results for CMT and CAPT.

    5. Silence on very sketchy personnel issues including: double dipping by Bruce Morris, carpet-bagging-cronyism from NY State, Mr. Opdahl’s freewheeling accounting practices with regard to procuring used school shop equipment and nepotistic expenditures on behalf of his substitute teacher son.

    6. Reliance on secret meetings.

    7. The infamous $35 million renovation with no restrooms.

    8. The repeated citation of polemical “phantom” research to justify autocratic contempt for community input.

    9. A pronounced “absentee” and aloof managerial attitude that is both condescending and contemptuous towards elected city officials, parents, frontline administrators, and teachers. This “royal” arrogance is so accurately pegged in comment #1 by Silence Dogood.

    Now the latest fib- In today’s Hour, King Sal “the Shifty” disputes the assertions of NFT President Bruce Mellion with regard to “illegal” students in the Norwalk Public Schools. Shifty Sal says, …”if there’s a half dozen over the course of a year, that’s a lot.” RIGHT…Pick a card, any card my friends.

    Meanwhile, amid the calls to track down kids sneaking in from Bridgeport and other districts, children of parents in the United States illegally, get a free pass. Both offenses are unfair to Norwalk taxpayers, but there is a fundamental unfairness in pursuing lawful citizens of Connecticut while turning a blind eye towards others in felonious violation of U.S. laws. The beat goes on…

  • 9 anonymous // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    Has anyone contacted the State Department of Education to find out their involvement with the Norwalk Public Schools re: No Child Left Behind? I strongly suggest that taxpayers do that. You might learn some very interesting information.

  • 10 Anonymous // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    Corda is a plague on the schools.

  • 11 Anonymous // Aug 10, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    http://www.csde.state.ct.us/public/der/ssp/dist0506/dist068.pdf

  • 12 ANonymous // Aug 10, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    Hammer

    You forgot Queen Lange’s teaching and getting paid at UCONN while on the clock for Norwalk Public Schools. Check the times of her class at UCONN against her hours at city hall.

  • 13 Watchdog // Aug 10, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    I would like to extend my thanks to Greg Burnett for seeking dialogue and input on educational policies.

    Perhaps he and Bruce Kimmel can work to reinstill our faith in a board previously elected to promote a quality school system for Norwalk’s students, teachers, and homeowners.

  • 14 Charles the Hammer // Aug 10, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    ANonymous

    Thanks for the addendum. It’s tough to keep an eye on all the members of the Royal Court all the time. But you’re right, double-dipping is one of the favorite pastimes at the palace.

    Here’s another one. Order up a big catered deli lunch for every set of meetings held downtown (and that’s one big, fat number). Be sure to get plenty of extra portions to pass around to Central Office staff. That’s right, East Ave. chows down on catered deli lunch day after day and then cries poor mouth. And you were taught there’s no such thing as a free lunch…exception?…There is when taxpayers pay for it.

  • 15 Silence Dogood // Aug 10, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    Charles the Hammer: Don’t forget to add that when there is a workshop run by the schools, lunch comes from the cafeteria staff. That’s a policy established by the Duke of Opdahl, who wants to direct business at Whitson’s. Why did the Duke exempt central office?

  • 16 nwlknative // Aug 10, 2007 at 5:55 pm

    #15 - That’s a no brainer - the hierarchy never eat what the pesants eat!

  • 17 Lee Corman // Aug 10, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Re post 16

    Yeah! That is what Marie Antoinette,Louis XVI,and the rest of the royalty thought. Then along came the French Revolution, and removed their heads.

  • 18 Slayer // Aug 11, 2007 at 10:26 am

    Charles the Hammer-

    You have captured the essence and insanity of the Corda court. Bravo!!!!

  • 19 CYA // Aug 11, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Charlie the Hammer - You are too good man! You must be a fly on the wall at the Central Office. Everything said by you and all the others is true, true, true! How blind are most of the BOE members? I can’t believe that they are stupid? I don’t want to believe that they are stupid? But what in gods name are they doing? Do they have any idea as to the mess that we are in because of Opdahl and the others? Do they really think that there is no truth whatever to everything that is being claimed about their wonderful hand picked leaders? They have allowed these people to be an embarrassment and a disgrace to the City of Norwalk. It will take years to recover from this gang.

  • 20 Silence Dogood // Aug 11, 2007 at 11:47 pm

    #19: You have piqued my curiosity about Charles the Hammer. Just who IS he that he has such insights? Do he and I know one another? (For the record, I understand that employees of NPS need to remain anonymous. I care about my own livelihood too!)

    BOE members who read this site may well think that we are malcontents. I have always loved my profession, my calling. I have always loved my students, our parents and my professional colleagues. However, I am greatly disturbed by the current district leadership, which is unconnected to the real people, i.e., the professional staff, the students and the parents. BOE members, we are the good guys and women. Please heed what we are telling you.

  • 21 CYA // Aug 12, 2007 at 9:07 am

    Attn: Silence Dogwood & Clarlie the Hammer - I bet we do know one another. I wouldn’t be suprised if we all worked for the Norwalk School system, in capacities that have directly exposed us to the things that we have reported on these pages. Things that are so outrageous and disgraceful that they have motivated many of us to speak out about them. Things that have been continually ignored by the BOE. Where else can we voice our frustrations and anger? We should call a BOE member? Let’s be real here, they have known about these issues for over two years and have elected to do nothing about them….NOTHING! Their leadership has been pathetic and deplorable. They should be ashamed of themselves!!!!!

  • 22 Watchdog // Aug 12, 2007 at 9:18 am

    Cya: It’s someone else’s turn to try that route. Go for it.

    I’m counting on a new changeover on the BOE. Teachers were once leery about loose cannons on the board; I welcome the idea.

  • 23 CYA // Aug 12, 2007 at 9:58 am

    Thanks for the comments Watchdog! I really don’t believe we fear loose cannons at all. Leery maybe, but fear no! The majority of us our true professionals who want to do a good job and to see our school system be successful. We want to see our children learn and to grow. We want our district to be at the head of the pack and not at the rear as it is now. We don’t want to be the laughing stock of the region as we are now! We want to see the morale level of staff and parents (which is now at an all time low) get back to where it was prior to the arrival of this group. We want the central office to acknowledge that they are here for the kids and not themselves. We want the BOE to do what they are entrusted to do, and not to merely show up at meetings and agree with everything the leadership presents. We want a BOE that will lead, challenge, oversee, direct, hold people accountable, and show some guts, to deal with the hard issues. We would hope to have a BOE that would gain our trust and respect. Lord knows it isn’t the case now!!!!!!

  • 24 norwalker // Aug 15, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Aren’t Lange and opdahl’s contract up for renewal this year?

  • 25 anonymous // Aug 15, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    They have some clause in their contract where if they are not renewed, the still continue for another year or you have to but them out.

  • 26 CYA // Aug 15, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    Contracts for Lange & Opdahl???? They do not require one by State BOE regs, only the super does. Why can’t they be expected to work under the same terms and conditions like all the rest of us little smucks??? What makes them so entitled??? Is this how the BOE clowns reward bad behavior and incompetance??? What a joke!!!

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