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Norwalk: Bondi and Mocciae To Look Into Colombian Festival


by turfgrrl


July 18th, 2007 · 53 Comments

Following the complaints levelled against the festival by Seaview ave residents, The Hour is reporting that the festical permitting process will be reviewed. Seaview ave, fronts Vets park, and not only were cars parked along the park, but at least 2 residents filed noise complaints. This prompted:

For East Norwalk residents beleaguered by thumping music and traffic snarls stemming from Sunday’s Colombian Independence Day festival at Veterans Memorial Park, the trouble could be summed up in one word —volume.

The decibel level at the event, which featured salsa bands, dancing, and consistent entertainment throughout the day, was “unreasonable,” Director of Recreation and Parks Michael Mocciae said.

The sheer volume of cars parking in and around Veterans Park — crowding Seaview Avenue and parking illegally throughout the area — presented another problem, said Democratic Councilman Fred Bondi, who represents East Norwalk.

An after-event police report noted problems with traffic, parking, and a crowd larger than planned for, Police Spokesman Lt. Paul Resnick said.
These problems, which mirrored those generated by last year’s festival, show a change is warranted, said Bondi, who is chairman of the Recreation, Parks and Cultural Affairs Council Committee.

“We had a problem with them last year, with the noise, and we told them to keep the music down. They didn’t do it,” he said. “I’m going to recommend to my committee we don’t allow them back next year. You can only abuse the facility so much.”

At-large Councilwoman Joanne Romano, who attended the event to read a proclamation from Mayor Richard Moccia, said she did not think the festival should be banned from returning, but acknowledged problems with the noise that she said carried as far as Strawberry Hill and East Avenue.

“I loved the music,” said Romano, a member of the Recreation, Parks and Cultural affairs Council Committee. “I mean, they have a great culture and why should we say no? On the same token, we need to have guidelines for the city.”

Beyond the decible level;

“At a little festival, there shouldn’t be noise complaints because it wasn’t billed as a major concert,” he said, adding that Ruiz estimated 1,000 people would attend when she applied for a permit.

Mocciae said the festival peaked at about 5,000 people at one time. Ruiz said Sunday that she thought 15,000 people total would attend the event.

There were not enough police on-hand to prevent drivers from illegally parking in the street, Bondi said.

“The police didn’t do their job,” he said. “There was so many people there, they only had five officers. They didn’t have enough to control it.”

Resnick said four officers and one supervisor were deployed to the area based on Ruiz’s estimate that there would be 1,000 people at the event at one time.

Mocciae said the problems are unique to the Colombian festival — he has not heard any complaints about the Oyster Festival, Jazz Festival, or any of the other music-based events at Veterans Park, he said.

Ruiz saw the event’s bond raised by $1,000 this year because of $1,500 in damages and cleanup incurred after last year’s event.

Though Ruiz and other organizers were asked to supply garbage cans, they did not, Mocciae said, instead relying only on city cans which were not enough to handle the debris.

After the festival, the ground was littered with garbage, Mocciae said.

“We’re not there to pick up and spend money on events – that’s their job,” he said.

Bathrooms were also left in “atrocious” condition, because organizers supplied three portable toilets, forcing celebrants who wished to avoid long lines to use city facilities, Mocciae said.

“You just can’t consistently abuse city property … they really didn’t have any respect for our park because they left it a mess,” Bondi said.

Any decisions about the future of the Colombian Independence Day event will be made by the Recreation, Parks and Cultural Affairs Council Committee, Moccaie said.

Though several residents interviewed said they planned to attend Wednesday’s meeting, scheduled for 7 p.m. at Calf Pasture Beach, neither the item nor a public hearing is noted on the committee’s agenda.

Mocciae said he hoped the city and organizers could come to an agreement that would satisfy both parties.

“They’re offering a cultural event that’s free to the residents which is a good thing,” he said. “It’s just how it’s presented.”

Having a sound engineer set up and certify the acoustics, requiring the leasing of trash cans, increasing the bond, and having an ability to bring in more security are all good things for any type of event at the the park.

source: The Hour, For some, Colombian fest hit sour note Officials cite ‘unreasonable’ decibel levels, traffic problems as reason for change, By AMANDA PINTO, July 18, 2007

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  • 1 Jacqueline Vogt // Jul 18, 2007 at 9:33 am

    “The Old Race Card Trick”

    I am usually a calm passive person, but when a person who lives in WEST NORWALK, calls people “Racists” because they voice a valid complaint, then that person is in my opinion “The perfect racist.” That person shows her ignorance by even suggesting that race was a problem. She further shows her ignorance by suggesting that the Jazz Festival was not complained about. The Jazz Festival organizers had the common sense to keep the noise level to where those that attended the event could hear it, but not loud enough to be heard in Eaton’s Neck Long Island 8 miles away in N.Y. This Festival was the first time many people in the whole of East Norwalk actually recognized that there can be health related problems from noise of that level over a period of 10 hours. It appears was not the first time that the organizers were warned, but they again could not have cared less about the people who lived in the neighborhood that they were invited into. How could the Parks & Recreation not know that they had be warned before, yet still issued an unlimited permit? I understand that this even disrupted more than a few business operations that are in that area of town. There was even a noise complaint called into the NPD by a City Councilman, who was told that there was nothing that they could do, as the permit was issued with no volume limitations.

  • 2 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 18, 2007 at 9:47 am

    Sounds like Ruiz is a little too loose with numbers and promises. Alert to those making public announcements: be careful with “they” and “them” as such statements can easily be twisted into racism. Reading the quote under the Hour photo, it is on the table. I was concerned about that in our last long thread and I think that the only moronic statement was on ICE. Having the word “blight” come up twice was worrisome, but rereading the comments, understandable.

    If Ruiz is the problem, then direct the wrath at her. Give the rest of the participants a chance to clean up their act.

  • 3 Watchdog // Jul 18, 2007 at 9:54 am

    Re: Jacqueline Vogt’s post:
    Quote: [I am usually a calm passive person, but when a person who lives in WEST NORWALK, calls people “Racists” because they voice a valid complaint, then that person is in my opinion “The perfect racist.” That person shows her ignorance by even suggesting that race was a problem. She further shows her ignorance by suggesting that the Jazz Festival was not complained about] Unquote.

    Help me out, please! I Turf’s article twice to try to understand who exactly IS the West Norwalk resident Ms. Vogt is referring to.

  • 4 Watchdog // Jul 18, 2007 at 9:55 am

    Oops… I omitted the word “read” from the previous post. “I READ Turf’s article twice…”

    Thank ya muchly.

  • 5 Ed Standish // Jul 18, 2007 at 9:59 am

    they” and “them” as such statements can easily be twisted into racism.

    And they were by one who herself seems to be the racist in the flower garden.

    If “participant’s” had been used instead of they or them, she would have found something else to get the “race card dart” into play. That is what she wanted. Racist, can immediately make the victims become the guilty party.

  • 6 Michael Shay // Jul 18, 2007 at 10:07 am

    On the front page of today 7/18 issue of the Hour about the problem with the volume of the Columbian Fest. The insert read “Nobody complains about the Oyster Festival. People are just being racist.”

    This was from Blanca Munoz

    20 year resident of West Norwalk on complaints about the festival.

  • 7 Anonymous // Jul 18, 2007 at 10:32 am

    Perhaps, just perhaps, if the coordinators of all Vets Park events were:
    1) REQUIRED to provide enough garbage pails for the crowd and REQUIRED to clean up and put the park back into its original condition;
    2) REQUIRED to meet and not exceed a certain noise standard;
    3) REQUIRED to have enough police on hand for a crowd exceeding their estimates;
    4) REQUIRED to provide off-site parking and/or shuttle service;
    5) REQUIRED to forfeit their bond if any of these requirements are not met;
    and were
    5) REQUIRED to charge an entrance fee to cover any and all expenses listed above.
    Perhaps then the neighbors and the business community will feel that the event is a benefit, not a punishment of those living and doing business in the area.
    I think this would be a minimum that any organization could do…no matter which group it is.

  • 8 Jerry Aldrich // Jul 18, 2007 at 10:34 am

    Post #4

    Kudo’s to Anonymous

  • 9 anonymous // Jul 18, 2007 at 10:43 am

    I really don’t think this is race related but I’m not Columbian so mine is a Caucasian perspective. People complain about the Oyster Festival - for its noise and parking/traffic issues - I was really surprised by what I read on this blog about the number of people who take issue with the Oyster Fest. Look at Shakespeare on the Sound - there’s talk about how it has outgrown Pinkney Park…

    I’m wondering too how watchful eyes on Vets Park of late are impacting this discussion.

    But at the Columbian Fest, the music was loud and continual, parking was a problem (I saw a cop get into it with a guy parking in a No Parking area of a side street) and there was a lot of garbage on the field the following afternoon. These are problems that need to be addressed if the event takes place next year.

  • 10 Anonymous // Jul 18, 2007 at 12:09 pm

    Ms Munoz comment is uncalled for, this is not a case of racism, this is a case of not holding up to the contract you signed ans not projecting proper numbers in order to have proper policing and proper oversight.
    The fact that the festival drew in such a large crowd is wonderful, the fact that the organizers neglected their duties and did’t have enough police, enough off site parking and left the facilities and the park a mess is not acceptable. The music was by all means too loud and disturbed more than the direct area. More investigation by Parks and Recs is needed when they enter into contracts and perhaps 11-9pm is a bit too long for these events to take place. People who hold these events should realize that parking is not provided and must be required to have ample off street parking. Event attendees must also be made aware that parking in residential parking places and in residential neighborhoods is not permissible and their cars will be ticketed or towed at the discretion of the police department and city. Just because there is an event at these parks does not mean that the area residents should be affected. I don’t think the events should be cancelled, I just think stricter rules must be implemented.

  • 11 Bewildered // Jul 18, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    I live in East Norwalk, past the train station, and I have to say I was tired of hearing the music by mid-afternoon. The volume was VERY LOUD. I never hear that much noise from the Oyster Festival and I have never heard the Jazz Festival. This festival was definitely louder. I just stayed completely away from the area to avoid the traffic. I do understand the residents complaining about illegal parking. I’m glad it is being looking into. Put on a blindfold and make the decisions about how to handle it in the future. The same fules should apply for everyone. Not special treatment for minorities.

  • 12 L'arlequino // Jul 18, 2007 at 12:41 pm

    For those who have been advocating the proposed ampitheatre and other attractions that have generated so much debate on this blog, this thread is a useful example of the problems that can be anticipated if the City is allowed to push through those ill-considered ideas.

    An ampitheatre per se will not contain loud music any more than a stage sitting out in the open. Strangely enough, though, the Oyster Festival acts that perform inside tents aren’t as loud as the main stage acts. For what reason, I can’t say, but I can hear mostly everything that goes on there from about a mile south of Vets’ Park.

    As long as it’s a decent act I usually don’t mind but now the Seaport Association is putting on hacks like Bo Bice. Time to either leave town or get the earplugs out, I think…

  • 13 anon // Jul 18, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    Amphitheaters can be designed to provide excellent sound to within and not without.

  • 14 Anonymous // Jul 18, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    #11-thats a really lame comment since no-one was looking for the minorities to get special treatment. Are you aware that minorities are not just blacks and hispanics or are you so narrow minded to believe they are the only ones that fit into this category?

  • 15 nwlkrep // Jul 18, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    A properly built ampitheater will contain the sounds in a much better way. You don’t hear the music inside the tents because it is contained. If you build an apitheater which closes off the back and sides of the stage, the music will be contained to the audience.

  • 16 Anonymous // Jul 18, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Sound, especially when it’s next to the water, which carries sound even farther than on land, will be directed at whatever is exposed to the sides of an ampitheatre that are open. Bad idea, bad idea, bad idea.

    Traffic problems that were brought up from the event on Sunday are just another reason not to develop the park.

  • 17 Anonymous // Jul 18, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    Perhaps all outdoor events should be cancelled and no cultural affairs be promoted for the city. Now that should attract alot of people for the redevelopment.

  • 18 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 18, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    The sense of community inside the Colombian festival was welcoming and lively. I have some happy memories and I’m glad that I dragged my kids down. Little Mr. 6 saw today’s paper and exclaimed. “Dad, look! The Colombian thing! That was cool!” After reading the article Daughter

  • 19 Watchdog // Jul 18, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    Alrighty, then. I just read the article in The Hour and am stunned at how legitimate concerns have ballooned into racist namecalling. Talk about your red herrings.

    This is simply a matter of courtesy, decency, good old-fashioned manners, and accountability. If Ms. Ruiz expected 15,000 people, as she announced on Sunday, she should have made prearrangements for garbage, PERIOD. The Oyster Fest has volunteers (NHS Band) taking care of garbage detail. As it was, there was city transportation in the way of bus shuttles, and again, this brings questions to the forefront. There was a previous article that the festival was “free.” Given that, didn’t the city require a fee for park usage? What about bus shuttles? Did the city pay for that, as well? Police? (Well… maybe for the projected 1,000 on the permit.)

    All in all, it seems the city made every effort to more than meet the organizer(s) half way, but the number of those attending on the permit were not accurate nor was the noise or garbage for even the largest projection accounted for. By the way, how did we go from 1,000 attendees on the permit to 15,000 expected?

    Bringing concerns to the forefront are hardly racist. There are blatant behaviors here that are just downright rude. Certainly, the key is accountability for what went wrong to ensure that the festival be given an opportunity next year.

  • 20 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 18, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    Wow, my last post got cut off. Filter does not seem to like the “less than” sign. It was:
    —–
    The sense of community inside the Colombian festival was welcoming and lively. I have some happy memories and I’m glad that I dragged my kids down. Little Mr. 6 saw today’s paper and exclaimed. “Dad, look! The Colombian thing! That was cool!” Mfter reading the article Daughter almost 20 asked, “Dad, are you sure that they aren’t racist?” — 2 data points.

    I am bothered by Bondi’s reaction to shut the whole thing down. I understand his point of “We asked them to do x, y & z. And they didn’t.” It’s his conclusion that makes me sad. I really enjoyed myself and I like living in a town where a Colombian Festival is welcomed. However, relying on the Hour’s reporting, it sure seems that Beatriz Ruiz has lost any credibility. Can’t we try to throw out the bath water without the baby?

    BTW, what was the amount of the bond that was posted? The Hour only reports that it was increased by $1K because of last year’s $1.5K expenses. Just like I’ve learned to fill up the gas tank before returning a rented car, can’t the same apply here?

  • 21 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 18, 2007 at 2:44 pm

    Watchdog, I agree with your post but I’m surprised that you’re stunned. Race is laying right there and someone was going to pick it up. I’m surprised at the anger against a 20 year old who walked right into it. Our youth has been highly trained to look for racism. Funny how the age was mentioned, neh?

    Ruiz lies. She stated 1,000 on permit; 50,000 to the Advocate the day before; 20-30,000 the day of the event; and 15,000 the day after. Based on the lie on the permit, the police were unable to maintain the accustomed level of control. She didn’t follow though with noise level concerns, garbage, or bathrooms. She’s incompetent, too. Anyone can understand that.

  • 22 Watchdog // Jul 18, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    Vet Park Junkie: Ruiz is twenty years old or a twenty year West Norwalk resident? I was under the impression it is the latter.

    I’m sorry, but race and culture has NOTHING to do with not picking up garbage and poorly projecting numbers. If we get caught in that trap, then we surely are embracing inequitites - and differences - where none exist.

  • 23 Anonymous // Jul 18, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    Absolutely. Using the race card is a red herring and only discredits those using it.

    It happened to me at the post office when I was accused of being a racist (”Do you know what it’s like to be a black veteran these days?!”) because someone thought I cut in front of them in line.

    Really pisses me off because 1) I am the least racist person I know, and 2) it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand.

  • 24 turfgrrl // Jul 18, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    Vet Park Junkie: Yes, the greater than sign and less than sign are special codes in the HTML world.
  • 25 turfgrrl // Jul 18, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    Even Central Park has special fees that permit seekers have to pay for renting the park, such as re-sodding the park if a crowd is deemed large enough. More info here nygovparks.org.
  • 26 Mr Greenpeace // Jul 18, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    Hello all bear in mind this posting is coming from a man who went to Deep Purple concerts to hear the 2 decibles below a jet engine, and a sound system from the Grateful Dead that could be heard a 1/4 mile away in stereo music is universal.

    The volume should of been controlled by that fancey weapon the police use for loud mufflers and cycles and have the ability to hand out at least one citation,,did the on duty police forget their citation books?

    I do agree with home owners but maybe because of complaints in shore front park and votes at election time is near there was some deliberate posturing that went on,,see folks we get it as well on the other side, so yes there are supporters to the East Norwalk residents who would say something needs to be done..

    How about a soil sample that might bring a fence around the place and only the geese will have access, and seeing how the city operates they will find a way to charge them as well.Its an option, or is Bondi being told limit ue until we get the ok to use the park too many people are asking questions,,and where someones health may be involved,,well lets see what card we can use first without getting rid of potential votes first,,

    Yes very cynical but if our front line DPW employees get sick where they have to work or some parks dept person ends up with some rare sickness i wonder if anyone will put it together,,,

    I have to give the crowd cedit did we have any arrests, like the last event where a woman was jumped in one of our public lots? among other things,,

    can’t build a thing until the land is given a clean bill of health thats common sense ,,I wish we were confident its being used,,common sense not the land..

  • 27 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 18, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    Sorry Watchdog, I’m home recovering from a flu so syntax, et al is not up to snuff. I was referring to Munoz, the West Norwalk resident who seems to be drawing wrath here.

    I agree that race has NOTHING to do with it, hence my stumbling in #2 to try to say, “Danger, Will Robinson!”

    Let’s take an average of the Ruiz estimates and multiply by a fee.

  • 28 overtaxed // Jul 18, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    I have been to many Parks & Rec meetings and one must tell the committee just how many will attend the event. They didn’t tell the truth, they left the park a mess and now the race card is used? Please!

  • 29 Watchdog // Jul 18, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    Hey, Junk…

    I rarely get the ole knickers in a knot, but making exceptions for bad behavior because it is EXPECTED makes me irate. It is as bad as accepting lower standards for minority students because they are.. well… minorities.
    I got your drift and I know we’re on the same page.

    Feel better.

  • 30 Jerry Aldrich // Jul 18, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    twenty year West Norwalk resident? I was under the impression it is the latter

    Is there a problem with needing glasses to read the front page of the Hour. It clearly stated that she was a 20 YEAR RESIDENT OF WEST NORWALK.

    Geezzzz.

  • 31 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 18, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    Jerry, Geezzzz is right!

    Geezzz…

  • 32 Frank Testa // Jul 18, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    I think it is time to return Veterans Park to it’s original wetlands state, or make it a wildlife conservation area. It is certainly being frittered away the way it stands now. I bet those folks who deeded the land are spinning so fast in their graves that they are effecting the rotation of the earth, and the heat generated by them is contributing to Global Warming.

  • 33 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 18, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    I know it’s a nit, but we’re dealing with hypersensitivity here. From failing hands I throw out, the spelling of the adjective is Colombian. (Forgive me, McCrae!) Also, use cumbia from time to time when referring to the music. You’ll gain support that you might lose by repeating salsa over and over.

  • 34 Anonymous // Jul 18, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    So now we should pander to special interest groups? From a nit to that is a leap I’m having trouble getting. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that a lot of the folks who attended this event were from out of town.

  • 35 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 18, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Pander to special interest groups? No. Respect those from Colombia who live here? Yes.

  • 36 turfgrrl // Jul 18, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    Vet Park Junkie: It is truly embarrassing to have typos in the headlines. I have fixed it. I wish the little red underlines would show up in that field before I hit send, but alas, it is not to be. Thank you for nit.
  • 37 Mr Greenpeace // Jul 19, 2007 at 6:37 am

    after reading the account of the meeting on vets park in this mornings Hour I’m convinced the city is being run by people who simply have not got a clue.

    there going to ignore talking about the environmental aspect of Vets Park, I was at least impressed with the fact they used a non toxic water color pitures of what there going to build but lets face it folks,,

    the headlines are what they are, its taking almost a
    week to see reports of crime in Norwalk to surfice in the news,guns are still being used and to see the
    picture on page C1 makes me wonder if I’m the only one who wonders if this man understands whats going on?

    I can see the new way of stemming the crime in Norwalk, they now put the mayor on the business page, so he is not with the crime or the ills of the city so when members from the chamber get their paper they go right to the business section,,why appear anywhere else with the rest of the poor slobs,where interests are front page and not financial news of Norwalk..

    This city is classic we complain about whats going on while our crime rate soars,,yes another bank but the defense should be there are on the average 24 bank robberies in the country each day so Norwalk is not that bad,,I will predict the mayor will have no parking signs put in front of banks and bike racks put in to make it more conveniant for getaways on ten speed now that cabs are being used,,this will be crimefighting at its best..

    I did look for good this morning watchdog moose and molly’s kid has joined the circus,,maybe thats what our mayor should think about as our ringmaster he would be perfect for the job..Edmund Musante must be in line for something he has as much time with the mayor as Ed had with Johnny Carson,,look at the picture it looks like a standup spot on NBC!

    meanwhile the police report only has 4 listed south Norwalk residents for arrests things are slowing down this week..

    I think to save money we should cut the police force in half and give the money to Bondi for the golf course at vets park..makes as much sense as the news today,,

    shut the park down with a environmental scare,,can’t do our city any more damage to our image.. or could it?

  • 38 Mr Greenpeace // Jul 19, 2007 at 6:42 am

    I’m off to reality this morning I may find some things I can bring back and share with our city,,I’m taking the kids to Dr Seuss’s house today i may find some solutions for our city..

  • 39 indiga // Jul 19, 2007 at 6:46 am

    So, since the City is doing such a heckuva job with managing Vet’s Park, they want to do a “land grab” and take the First District Parks — claining ownership of Klondike Park, Union Park and even the Green. Hey, maybe that’s where they’ll put the min-golf course. Central location. Level. Maybe do it with a “historical” them. Miniature burning buidlings…attendants dressed as Tryon’s troops…have a whole Revolutionary War theme. Heck, why not? That’s about the level of respect this administration has for Norwalk’s history.

  • 40 Anonymous // Jul 19, 2007 at 7:19 am

    I see the ampitheatre issue in Vets’ Park has raised its ugly head again. The article in today’s Hour about the Parks and Rec and Cultcha Affairs Council Committee (PRCACC! Polly wanna privatize?) touted Project Development Advisor Diana Harrington’s claims that it would contain the sound adequately and wouldn’t be visually objectionable but of course the public isn’t worthy of actually seeing what is planned as there were no pictures accompanying the article.

    Despite the uproar over Sunday’s noise and parking problems, the City appears to be bent on moving forward with this. Mike Mocciae: “This is a potential component that we’ve gotten a lot of call for and keep in mind, there have been a lot of successful events that aren’t noisy and don’t cause traffic.”

    Who is calling for this? Fred Bondi? Corporate groups? I can see it now: the Norwalk Motor Inn Ampitheatre sponsored by Happy Endings Spa and Massage Center. The interior would probably resemble the outfield fencing of a Little League ballfield with advertising.

    Is anyone in this administration accountable to the public? Hmm. Where have I heard that before?

  • 41 Anonymous // Jul 19, 2007 at 7:29 am

    Indiga - LOL, but be careful, Fred Bondi may actually think you’re serious. Could be a good way to put the homeless to work, though.

    I can see it now: they emerge each day from their resting places underneath the Water St. entrance stairs to the Maritime Center to stagger over to Vets’ Park, but not before they make their shopping cart rounds on recycling day.

    Since historical costumes in Norwalk are rarely used and probably falling prey to moths, the City could clothe them and dress ‘em up, sorta like what LA did during the ‘84 Olympics by giving out tuxes to the bums around downtown.

  • 42 Anonymous // Jul 19, 2007 at 7:32 am

    Or they could hire the homeless as parking attendants with the new “Norwalk Has a Movement” logo on their vests, since Vets’ Park will eventually be turned into a parking lot to accommodate traffic for the ampitheater and Maritime Center buses.

  • 43 turfgrrl // Jul 19, 2007 at 7:37 am

    indiga: no, no, no. The mini golf should be an aquarium theme with dancing neon lobsters, with historical lobster traps. ;)
  • 44 Tee-Off in Norwalk // Jul 19, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    With all the talk of mini-golf courses, why not have one at Mathews Park? Between the bike path, the new parking lot and tearing down trees, the south lawn has survived somewhat intact (and it would be a waste not to ruin it) - we could have a theme with historic buildings that have been (or will be) torn down soon: little gas lamps made of plastic with advertisements for local businesses, perhaps a miniature steam engine, maybe even a replica of some of the old houses on West Avenue and the Elm trees as well: and the payoff for a good score would be a discounted admission to the Mansion or Stepping Stones Museum which could promote them as well. Norwalk is large enough that they could support more than one mini-golf course, with the 18th Century theme on the green, the fishing/oyster theme for Vets Park, and the 19th Century for Mathews Park.

  • 45 Anonymous // Jul 19, 2007 at 7:03 pm

    How about one at City Hall on the East Avenue Lawn: they could call it Goombatz Golf.

  • 46 indiga // Jul 19, 2007 at 11:16 pm

    Brilliant ideas…let’s get Tad Diesel to start the marketing…

  • 47 Anonymous // Jul 20, 2007 at 8:56 am

    I like it. Diesel ran marketing for a corporation that excels at providing monopolistic services at exorbitant rates. That’s the Republican ideal! Maybe there’s hope for Norwalk after all.

  • 48 EN resident // Jul 20, 2007 at 11:48 am

    This is not out about race, it is about being able to live where you live. The noise was sooooo loud that my dog was howling so bad we left our house. If they are going to make Vets into an ampitheater they need to think up some noise reduction strategies. But then again if we protest or complain, our houses will go the way of maritime motors.

  • 49 Jason Lee // Jul 20, 2007 at 12:09 pm

    But then again if we protest or complain, our houses will go the way of maritime motors.

    I think that the city of Norwalk taxpayers would enjoy a separate lawsuit against the city from 100 residents on that one.

  • 50 Anonymous // Jul 20, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    If the Haitian Festival this weekend is problematic then we can be assured the City will ignore any like issues when it tries to force an ampitheater down the residents’ throats.

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