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Norwalk:Fun At City Hall, A Tale of Two Meetings


by turfgrrl


July 10th, 2007 · 12 Comments

Uptown Redevelopment Recommending a Strategy

Matt makes reference to Jurassic park by invoking the idea that at one time someone thought 50 Washington street was a good idea. He said, “we don’t want to make the same mistakes …. We want to make new mistakes.” Funny. The room chuckled.

TIghe & Bond studies omit the two parking garages and land acquisition costs.

Stamford and Bridgeport considering TIFF financing … [check into it]

Tax revenues are at a rate that’s less than vacant property.

Tax base currently at 1.3 million and with project 13 million.

West ave plan

4 new public parking garages …. (maritime)
new and refurbished streets and sidewalks
new/refurbished public utilities (underground)
transportation/ traffic infrastructure
street lights and landscape (streetscape)

special service district to raise $3,417,000 in supplemental tax revenue

public parking revenues: $4.1 million year (preliminary)

Timing 18-24 month pre-development period, 36 month construction period, permanent financing not expected till 2010-2011.

Separate funding source (revenue) too instead of general fund.

Krummel asks a great question about why the limit fo the second taxing district being limited to west ave. He asked how can you limit the infrastructure improvements and connectivity to just west ave. Sheehan says that $20 million in state money was being used for certain parcels on the 95/7 project.

Council Meeting 7/10/07

All present except for Nick Kydes. Jefrrey Spahr instead of Peter Nolin.

They accept the minutes form 6/26/07 unanimous.

Public Participation:

John Lombardi: Speaking on appointment on Oak Hills. Thinks that council should not remove present chairman. Thinks it’s a political move that the city will suffer form. Other issue is on the 900k state funds to the board of ed. The council has the prerogative to look at the BOE budget, and has not done so. The last finance chairman that held numerous meetings was Andy Conroy. The council has chosen not to do that job. Their projects show 1000 students in the next 2 years, but in fact enrollment declined by 500. Thinks its time to replace Corda.

Dave Davidson: $962k to BOE issue. At council meeting where the cap was discussed, asked to hold to the cap and real budget would come through. Thanks to Bruce Kimmel questions, special ed funding was not required, enrollment not what was projected. Corda admitted that he needed contingency funds and so did not budget tightly. We can assume that the budget that the BOE after the budget reconciliation was a tight budget. But they have gotten an additional 600k in priority school funding. Set up the 962k money as a contingency fund that they can tap if they cant live within the budget and need to access the funds. Amend the resolution to achieve the result.

Bobby Burgess: Hartford says you can use the money except for the education purposes. Then speaks in favor for Joe Tamburi, good friend and he works for the city. Says that code book of city that the mayor can appoint the oak hills authority. Claims that Coffey is upset with Tamburi because his name was not on Oak Hills appointment. [Mayor interrupts, no personal attack]

Resginations:

They take 5 minute recess.

They take 5 minute recess.

They Return, Moccia announces they return after 12 minutes.
Coffey moves to nominate Martha Lemmon.

Hilliard moves to table the Oak Hills Appointment.

Miklave, Prouban, Sutton, Bolden, Hilliard, Briggs, Krummel vote to table the issue. Moccia breaks the tie.

Bondi does a point of order that Miklave represented Martha Lemmom.

Matt Miklave responds that it was a long time ago.

Mick Coffey speaks to Lemmon’s background as an athlete and businessperson.

Mikalve: Thinks the world of Martha Lemmon, as a client he issue was successfully resolved, (second time he mentions it to much laughter) Mentions that Lemmon was treasurer of re-election campaign, and says that he’s played golf with Lemmon and can testify that she needs much more time on the golf course, he jokes, but it didn’t go over that well. He says that despite that he can’t support her because Joe Tamburi has done a yoeman’s work regarding the driving range and restaurant there, so he won’t vote for her thought she’s his friend, but he wants to support Tamburi.

Briggs: Also thinks Lemmon is a fine person, but winders why her name was submitted for one of the other two appointments. She says regretfully she will vote against Lemmon.

Hilliard: Thinks Tamburi has done a fantastic job and regretfully will vote against Lemmon because he supports Tamburi. Thinks there’s no reason to replace Tamburi and thinks it’s a political ploy.

Krummel: Will vote against Lemmon though he has great respect for Lemmon, but Joe Tamburi represents a success in appointments deserve to be continued. He ahs worked with the community, helped West Norwalk kept the Oak Hillls community fit in with the community.

Hempstead: Thinks Martha must be a nice personal. This a mayoral appointment, and that he was replaced by people on the other side. People come and go an these commissions. That’s reality. Hats off Joe Tamburi, he’s nto going anywhere, he’ll be back. This is someone new, the mayor put forth the name it’s a normal part of the process.

Poruban: Known Martha a long time, surprised about the appointment. Thnks that there’s an issue over a plaque at Oak Hills. Tamburi was the person who brought forward that they need more female board appointments. As much as he thinks she’s a friend he will not be voting for Lemmon.

Roll Call Vote:

Miklave, Prouban, Sutton, Bolden, Hilliard, Briggs, Krummel against, Moccia breaks tie and votes for Martha Lemmon.

Tree Advisory Committee:
Mike Coffey motions, David Tracy.

Krummel: Applauds Moccia for nominating Dr. Tracy. Applauds the service of Laurel Lindstrom on the committee.

Poruban: echos Krummels comments.

Unanimous vote.

Zoning Commission
Karen Spencer

Bondi moves Karen Spencer for renomination on Zoning.
Coffey: Happy to put her out as a regular

Unanimous Vote

Fair Rent: Marty Bernard
Unanimous
Straniti Motions for Maria Lopez
Unanimous
McQuaid for Patricia Genurario
Unanimous
Coffey: Moves Trish Gibbs to be reappointed to the Maritime Authority.

Hempstead: Thinks she’s an excellent choice for the maritime Authority

Moccia: Had to convince her to stay on.

Unanimous:

Moccia: Any time a mayor makes changes there’s concern & appointments tonight 5 were Democrats and 2 were Republican, in the spirit of bipartisanship.

Coffey: Thanks Lindstrom and Tamburi. Says in the first 2 years he was on the council there was never submissions to be on boards and commissions., he thinks he’s worked well with Hempstead on getting great people to serve on the commissions.

Consent Calendar

Mikalve removes item 7. B 1.

Council votes unanimously on the Consent Calendar.

Miklave: Recuses himself because of 7. B. 1.

Krummel retrieves Miklave.

Hilliard: On last week of leading up the BOE fiancé committee had 3 meetings about the budget. Motions V1 2. Says that he thinks BOE deserves extra money and votes to approve it.

McQuaid: Is supporting the funds, but still has concerns about the budget. Thinks we can do a better job next year.

Coffey: Has a few questions for Dr. Corda. Explain where the budget savings were form the budget sent over to the council.

Corda: Didn’t bring reconciliation with him.
Reduced 4 literary specialists and two teachers in Brien McMahon and ??? schools. Reduced health insurance savings. (see earlier BOE finance meetings) Reducing aides in special ed by 10, result of youngsters that left the district or a reduction of special education plans that are concluded at the end of the school year. And nickel and dimes the budget and reduced the athletic budget in both high schools. Then some special ed students moving out or aging out of the district. Purchases were made that the end of this school year were proposed for next year.

Coffey: Questions the role of the finance committee of the BOE. Applauds Bruce Kimmel for raising the issue.

Corda: The board of the finance committee will determine it for itself. Claims that he does the best job based on estimates. In some cases the finance committee may have some meetings determined on their own. Unless the finance committee changes, it has served fairly well. Budget detail is more available at the end of the school year, instead of the earlier as it is now. [of course this is b.s. because corporations do this all the time]

UPDATE: Coffey: Does those factors get looked at by the finance committee.

Corda: No its an erratic schedule. Questions whether a more frequent meeting of the finance committee will have any impact on the process.

Coffey: But we have a committee on the council and go over these numbers all the time. Don’t you think that’s a better way.

Corda: I think you ask these questions during the process at the end. Uses an example of the athletic department reductions. Claims that the purchasing agent expanding the bidding the pool to and that Opdahl changes the way that transportation as being handled. No impacts were made to athletic programs. He claims that now people will say that the results were that holding the feet of the BOE to the fire worked. Corda claims that they do that anyway. We run a business 145 million dollar business. He tries to use good business practices in labor negotiations, and purchasing. He says they are still not locked down on the need for elementary schools. He won’t know the answer for the next couple of weeks. That’s the kind scrutiny that has to take place. In terms of the finance committee he doesn’t know if the outcome will be any different. Jack Orchulli spent 3 months learning the education business, hiss assessment that the operation was run extremely well. The mayor brought him in, so Corda feels confident that he knows what he’s doing. A budget is a blueprint, it’s a plan that needs to be modified.

UPDATE My battery died and so the remainder of the common council meeting of 7/10/07 continues on the post here.

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12 Responses so far “Norwalk:Fun At City Hall, A Tale of Two Meetings”



  • 1 Jeff Hall // Jul 11, 2007 at 6:28 am

    Corda: … Budget detail is more available at the end of the school year, instead of the earlier as it is now.

    Wow. I wish I was rich enough to make a budget after I’ve spent my money. Must be nice to be able to make a budget after you’ve spent other people’s money.

  • 2 AnonWattsSupporter // Jul 11, 2007 at 6:30 am

    Miklave, Poruban are Judas’s. Clearly don’t know the meaning of friendship or loyalty. It is all about thinking they know the inside skinny (one conspiracy theory after another) but stupidly cut off their noses to spite their faces.

    They don’t want peace in the Democratic party, they are egged on by Wells and the sandwich delivery man and now we have the Briggs “hit man” mattw running the Dem’s campaign. The perfect storm for defeat.

    What a joke!

  • 3 Anonymous // Jul 11, 2007 at 7:57 am

    #1 –You are correct. News flash–$1.000,000 available from the state for more administrators !!!

  • 4 MGeake // Jul 11, 2007 at 8:02 am

    My hat’s off to you TG: the lack of air conditioning made it impossible for Mary and me to stay for both meetings.

    I am somewhat disturbed by the plans for West Avenue. Last night, a slide of “what you don’t want” in a redevelopment was shown — it was of one of the many industrial buildings that currently exist in that area. So what we don’t want in Norwalk are businesses where people roll up their sleeves and work? What are all these blue-collar workers (Lord knows we don’t want any of those in Norwalk) supposed to do, become clerks and bag boys at all those upscale retailers?

    Just another example of the Walmartification of America!

  • 5 turfgrrl // Jul 11, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    mgeake: Interesting that you should point out the importance of industrial business. I believe that Walter Briggs’ planning commission had a recommendation that industrial zones be switched to residential. So kinda worse than a walmartification of Norwalk. A healthy city should have many diverse types of industry, business, retail, and residential.
  • 6 MGeake // Jul 11, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    Never said I’d agree with Walter on everything ;-}

  • 7 Anonymous // Jul 11, 2007 at 2:44 pm

    Re: the industrial zone, is that different from commercial? I was just wondering when the last time an industry moved into Norwalk. Maybe Briggs wants to change it to residential to prevent anymore big box stores. Is that what you call “smart growth/”

  • 8 turfgrrl // Jul 11, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    MGeake: Heh. Smart growth, disagreement, pretty soon they’ll start calling you a Republican ;)
  • 9 turfgrrl // Jul 11, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    anonymous 7: Yes industrial is different than commercial. Smart growth means keeping a balance of uses and needs, not eliminating one.
  • 10 Bell // Jul 11, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    One of the reasons for changing industrial zones to residential zones is that there are no industrial users to fill the industrial zones. Nothing would make us all happier that to see Norden running three shifts at full capacity but that has not happened in 50 years or so. Throughout the State of Connecticut, old mill sites and factories are being converted to office and residential use. The point is to restore them well and/or replace them with uses that are beautiful and useful today not 50 years ago.

  • 11 turfgrrl // Jul 11, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    Bell: Not quite true. Not all industrial uses are big factories like the one you cite. An artist’s studio, for example, is an industrial use. As with most things, a balance of many types of uses yields the ability to adapt and change. It makes for a economically healthy diverse city too.
  • 12 nwlknative // Jul 11, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    I just noticed yesterday that the old Zell factory building on Main Street has been torn down. Does anyone know what is going in there? Yet another industrial building gone. How could we ever expect industry to move in when all the factories are either being torn down or converted to housing. If the trend of companies to move south or overseas reverses, we will not have room for industry here in Norwalk. Another debacle is the MBI property on Fair Street. That has got to be the worst place for housing. Busy road (123), Route 7 connector, exit ramp, train tracks. Walled in by a storage facility on one side and an elevated highway on the other. Not only will residents suffer from the fumes of cars braking/slowing down to exit, there is the constant noise of this very busy highway to nowhere with the semi’s bumping along at all hours of the night. A perfect spot for industry, but certainly not a place I would want to raise children. What are the planners thinking?

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