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Friday Misc Stuff


by turfgrrl


July 6th, 2007 · 22 Comments

Back in the dark days of computing, that is before the arrival of hard drives, cheap mass storage and cheap memory, I used to run a tech support department. I used to lecture software operations people on triage, support levels and optimal staffing levels. In short, I pioneered many of the standard business practices in use today. Except that back then, tech support departments were filled with geeky computer nerds who knew something, instead of script readers. Which is why I today, instead of posing on the fine police work that led to the confession of one Steven Bertuglia of Mount Sinai, N.Y., who is alleged to have robbed two Norwalk banks, or posting about the $100 million projected for infrastructure work just for the Wall Street/West ave. redevelopment projects, I instead spent 2 hours tapping through phone trees, getting access to online accounts which were no longer working and otherwise attempting to communicate a very simple tech support message; “you pinheads are blocking a major ISP.’ Of course earlier in the day that simple message was more technical and less confrontational.

But phone rage, which I have been subjected to and can routinely inflict, has become the norm. Just type in the name of whatever corporate brand du jour, and add sux or sucks, and you will encounter a blog, devoted to the trials and tribulations of one person’s horrific encounter with customer service hell, and the hundreds if not thousands who experienced the exact same thing, only worse. The most recent, at least making the rounds if internet hall of fame is the poop-on-a-plan site.

the beginning

http://pooponaplane.blogspot.com

So no, I am not going to rant in detail about my latest foray in the land of technical nitwits. I have been a cablevision customer for a long time. Too long. And while I can move my business elsewhere and satisfy that inner goal of denying them my piddly revenue stream, which I’ve done in the past, I will likely suffer silently. The reality is that they get away with bad service, incomprehensible pricing plans, and technical incompetence because we accept it. And not just from them, but for every bit of plastic shipped from China that falls apart 3 days after you buy it. We have become a nation of exasperated but acquiescent consumers of stuff that doesn’t work. Including our government. Which at the state level has muddled up the simple task of regulating commodity utilities like electricity in order to create the exact same price escalation manipulations that California experienced in 2000-01.

In other news Jim Shaprio, Democratic state rep from Stamford has announced he will not be seeking the Democratic nomination to run for congress against Chris Shays.

And the Italian Festival is going on in Westport tonight and through the weekend, amidst the shocking news that they have trouble finding volunteers. Perhaps that may be because of the cost of living or something.

The comments are open to whatever you all feel like discussing.

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22 Responses so far “Friday Misc Stuff”



  • 1 Gotta Laugh So I Don't Cry // Jul 6, 2007 at 11:53 am

    Here’s Rudy Giuliani’s speech from yesterday as he continues his campaign to be President of 9/11:

    “I’m going to talk about the Middle East, and I’m going to talk about it in the context of the first commitment that I’ve made in the 12 commitments that I just happen to have with me, actually. I carry them around with me all the time. It reminds me as to what my campaign is all about. We made 12 commitments of principles, things that our campaign is about. And the reason I did this is, I have a very, very strong belief that American politics is not enough about ideas. It’s too much about things that really belong on gossip pages, or maybe it’s about personalities and maybe it’s about general feelings. And all those things are important. I’m not saying they’re not important, and an appropriate amount of time should be spent on them, but the most time should be spent on ideas. . . .

    “So what we decided to do was we’d lay out the 12 things we thought were the most important, and then we would spend the summer discussing it in more detail. They’re all single sentences, easy to read. You look at it, you can decide whether you agree with us on most things or not. If you agree with us on everything, I’d be really surprised, because I don’t agree with us on everything. I agree with us on most things. But if you agree with us on most things, then you can get an idea of whether you want me to be president. . . . .

    “So let me talk to you, there are 12 commitments here. Eleven of them are in no order of importance, because I can’t tell you between No. 2 and No. 12 which is the most important. They’re all important and at different times different ones are important. But I can tell you what the first most important is, for sure. The first commitment that I make is I will keep America on offense against terrorism. And now, if I may, let me tell you what that means, because that’s a statement, it’s a sentence, it’s a very complex idea. And let me see if I can make it a little bit clearer. It comes from my view of the 20th century, both the 20th century and my understanding of Islamic terrorism. . . .

    ” . . . during the Democratic debate, I couldn’t find one of them that ever mentioned the words ‘Islamic terrorist.’ None of them. In fact, at one point, one of them was asked, who are the biggest enemies of the United States? The biggest No. 1, No. 2, No. 3 enemies of the United States. Do you know [who] they listed as number one? North Korea.

    “North Korea is an entity. North Korea is dangerous. I mean, I grant that, and, boy, we have to be really careful about North Korea and sometimes we do a real long foreign policy address on North Korea, which I’m happy to do. I’m writing an article for Foreign Affairs, where we describe what we would do about North Korea. But I don’t remember North Koreans coming to America and killing us. . . .

    “I don’t even remember communists or Nazis doing that. Now, they were more dangerous in other ways, no question about that, but you’ve got to be realistic if you want to lead. You have to lead from cold, hard facts, not from fantasy. If you can’t say the words ‘Islamic terrorist,’ then you have a hard time figuring out who is our biggest enemy in this world. How do the people organize that are coming here, who plan to kill us? And then how can you stop them from doing that? That’s what being on offense means. . . .

    “So, if there is one main issue, if there is one big issue, if there is one single issue in this campaign, and rarely are there, and there probably isn’t even in this campaign — but if I had to select one, and that’s why I made it number one, it is if I’m president of the United States, I can guarantee you we will be on offense against Islamic terrorists in order to make sure that we end this war as soon as possible and with as few casualties as possible and keep America as safe as possible.

    Thank you very much.”

  • 2 Anonymous // Jul 6, 2007 at 12:04 pm

    Poop on de plane, boss! Maybe they should call it Incontinental Airlines.

  • 3 Anonymous // Jul 6, 2007 at 12:32 pm

    Turffie I feel your pain. Keep slaying those dragons.

  • 4 Ken Jiannone // Jul 6, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    I would like to know why I have to talk to India to get tech support on my computer. The language problem is sometimes the biggest problem. I once had a long conversation with a tech in Bangalore about the British Munitions Development in that city that developed the Bangalore Torpedo in 1912.

    Go figure.

  • 5 Douglas McDaniel // Jul 6, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    Gotta Laugh So I Don’t Cry —wrote in post #1 ***

    I have to agree with just about 99.8% of what he wrote.

  • 6 Anonymous // Jul 6, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    #4 - For the same reason nobody wants to work in a convenience store or fast food joint. There is always somebody cheaper to be hired by big biz. The claim that there are jobs that nobody wants is true only when the government allows them to be outsourced or taken over by immigrants.

  • 7 turfgrrl // Jul 6, 2007 at 1:56 pm

    Having set up call centers, I’ll shed some light. In corporations, call centers are set up as part of operations and are cost center. As an operational cost center the budget lines are constantly analyzed of reducing the famous cost per. The intangible, for a tech company at least, is that your call center is really part sales, part marketing, part R&D. It’s an important cost of goods sold, and more importantly marketing and PR part of the business.

    The companies that fail (in tech) due so because they don’t get it. It’s not cheaper products make greater profit for a business. It’s cheaper products that work make greater profits. So you get marketing departments that spend millions on making a tech product look sexy and desirable which all gets flushed away the first time a consumer picks up the phone to interact with the company.

    So despite having built stellar call centers in Austin, a company will decide to shave costs per, and relocate a call center to an over-promised much lower cost per call and think they are doing a great job. When that doesn’t work, they just ship in H1-B visa employees. THen they sell out or close.

  • 8 Anonymous // Jul 6, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    #5 - Well, if you do, then maybe you could remind Rudy what his 12 campaign objectives are because he sure as hell can’t remember them…

  • 9 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 6, 2007 at 2:45 pm

    “When that doesn’t work, they just ship in H1-B visa employees. *** THen they sell out or close.”

    At the ***, I’d insert “Who, once they understand the business, quit when they get the greencard in order to double their salary.”

  • 10 L'arlequino // Jul 6, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    You can’t blame people for wanting a to better themselves. Let’s not forget all our ancestors who came through Ellis Island to start new lives here.

    However, if the government enforced existing laws that penalize employers for hiring illegals, made sure that the borders were secure, and stopped giving American jobs to overseas workers, then a lot of the problems would be mitigated.

    But as long as the bottom line is the bottom line, nothing is going to change.

  • 11 Anonymous // Jul 6, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    Looks like high brow IVY LEAGUE Al Gore III majored in canabis and controlled substances at Harvard–spoiled, aimless BRAT !

  • 12 Anonymous // Jul 6, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    Guess that puts Doug Hempstead’s son in the same category since he got busted for heroin…

  • 13 Anonymous // Jul 6, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    Or Andy Reid’s son, same issue.

  • 14 Aunt Bertha // Jul 6, 2007 at 6:48 pm

    Were you talking about the Italian Fest is Westport not getting enough Free help? I can see this happening because the same comment was made about the Irish fest in Trumbull this year. These fairs are becoming too expensive to go to and the people that work there are not treated to anything special. And to give up a weekend to work for free when it is extremely hot is hard to do when you reach a certain age. And let’s face it there are few that work at these events in the age ranges from 20-50. I will not go back to the Irish Fest because of the over pricing of everything including the entrance fee of $12. per adult. I will not go back to the Oyster fest in Norwalk because of the high entrance fee to see bands that well have seen better days before they all got their AARP cards. People don’t want to be bothered with the parking, heat and expense of it all. Just one old lady thinking out loud.

  • 15 techno hell // Jul 6, 2007 at 6:48 pm

    I feel your pain, TG. I tired to set up my voice mailbox today. I am using another consultant’s office at a major international bank. Her paperwork is there but she is gone. People avert their eyes when they mention her name. It must have been an unhappy parting. But she left me with a telephone that still responds with her name. The system requires a passward to set up the voicemail. It requires a password to change your password. It requires a password to get to the “help people. Wherever she is, she took her password with her. And as far as I can tell, there is no human “help” presence for me — in India or anywhere else.

  • 16 Douglas McDaniel // Jul 6, 2007 at 8:13 pm

    by Aunt Bertha post #14 wrote;
    “These fairs are becoming too expensive to go to and the people that work there are not treated to anything special.”

    True, take the Pizza booth at the Oyster Fest. The St. Ann’s club has had the same old timers for decades. They were brought up in a different age, with different problems, and different values then young people of today. It is just the way things have become in the country today. For the folks that usually did donate their time, they no longer have that time to donate. It now all goes to paying bills, by working.

    I think that many events like this are doomed if they are dependent on volunteers in this day and age. The problem is that to hire a full staff with no volunteers would make the cost of the events soar even higher than they are now. This is a vicious cycle, as by paying the staff, the effect is that these events will be out of reach for a family of 3 or 4. The world is changing and a lot of the good stuff of days gone by, is fast disappearing. The only good thing is that to many young people, “These will become their good old days.”

  • 17 Douglas McDaniel // Jul 6, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Does anyone know the exact number of paid admissions there were to the Jazz Festival?

  • 18 Vet Park Junkie // Jul 6, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    L’arlequino, I have no problem with anyone wanting to improve their lot. Most of the people that I worked with on H1-B were very skilled. It was the lure of the green card that made low wages acceptable. Once the green card was in hand, they could start to command the income that matched their skills. I keep thinking “indentured servants.” In CT, the value of IT wages dropped.

    In the meantime, many many people were displaced, which is hard no matter how you cut it. … and I feel that the companies that followed that path lost a lot. Help desks are the tip of the iceberg.

    I did the IT route for many years: AT&T, Bell Labs, the banks beginning with “C”, etc. However, the jobs that I found “fun” just disappeared. Ergo, new a profession and new skillsets were required. I did it but ’tain’t easy in your 50’s.

  • 19 Mr Greenpeace // Jul 7, 2007 at 2:33 am

    I have to give credit to the Ny police for a outstanding job, the Norwalk police for following up and the Advocate for having the story more than a week before the Hour on the bank robber, Mueller, Sullivan, O Conner and Cohen were all appluaded earlier this week on this,,good job boys,

  • 20 turfgrrl // Jul 7, 2007 at 8:35 am

    techno hell: Voicemail systems have gotten out of hand. But here’s where google can help you. Do a search for the system you have (ie cisco) and reset voicemail password. There usually is an automated way to reset to the system default. Some times that turns out to be the 4 digit extension, but not all the time.
  • 21 Techno Hell // Jul 7, 2007 at 10:08 am

    When it takes you a half day to figure out your technology, you hardly have any time left to work. Anyone have the stats on US worker prodcutivity? If it’s down, I may know why. Thanks for the tip…

  • 22 Mr Greenpeace // Jul 7, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    Some of Norwalks own playing at the Italian festival Sun between 12:30 to 1:30, figure I’d give them a plug I know one of them he’s a friend great bass player for those who enjoy good live music

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