YourCT.com header image 2

Guest View: Kimmel Urges Budget Discussion


by turfgrrl


July 5th, 2007 · 27 Comments

This is part of an ongoing series of guest posts about issues in Norwalk. yourCT.com is a non-partisan site dedicated to airing all sides of an issue. That can’t happen without valuable contributions from our readers.

Discussions could ease school budget process

A number of interesting questions emerged during the discussion of the Board of Education’s operating budget, some general, some detailed. I hope we — that is, the Board of Education, the public, the mayor, and other city agencies — can address some of these issues in the coming months. Below, in no particular order, are some of the more general questions I believe need to be addressed:

What is the board’s role in determining what will be cut, the amount of the cuts, and when those cuts will be announced? This issue emerged when school Superintendent Salvatore Corda — at a Common Council meeting — announced a detailed list of program and staff reductions that would have to be made if the BOE’s overall budget request were substantially reduced. At the time, there had been no discussion among board members about reductions; nor had we discussed Corda’s controversial decision to not cut any administrators.

About a week later, the superintendent announced that new information had enabled him to reduce the BOE’s budget request from a 7.7 percent increase in spending to 6.23 percent; soon after, he lowered that to about 5.9 percent. While I definitely applaud Corda for reducing spending, I believe proper protocol requires the board to formally discuss and approve any reductions in its budget before they are announced.

What is the role of the board’s Finance Committee during the development of the superintendent’s initial budget recommendation? The Finance Committee did not meet once while the superintendent and his staff were preparing their initial budget recommendation, which was presented to the full board in the beginning of January. My experience on the Common Council’s Finance Committee, from 1997 to 2005, leads me to believe that detailed committee discussions provide the type of knowledge necessary to fully understand and evaluate the superintendent’s recommendation.

What is the relationship between the BOE, especially its Finance Committee, and the Council’s Finance Committee and the Board of Estimate? It goes without saying that the BOE is an independent agency of the state and that only it has line-item authority over its budget. Nonetheless, the Council and the BET determine the overall size of the BOE budget and its impact on taxpayers. Thus, I believe it is necessary for these bodies to meet on regular basis — as equals — in order to constructively discuss the many fiscal issues facing the city.

As indicated above, I believe that the board’s Finance Committee could have discussed a number of detail-ed budget issues. Below are several that emerged during this year’s debate:

There is a need to examine ways to increase the accuracy of enrollment projections early in the budget cycle. During the budget reconciliation process in early June, a rather large number of staff reductions were proposed based on lower enrollment projections. This raised questions about the initial projections.

There is a need to break down, examine and determine the overall cost of our special education programs. Staff reductions in special education, totaling about $1.3 million, were proposed in early June. In January, when the board approved the superintendent’s request, I was under the impression that all special education requests were mandated by law and Individual Education Plans and were thus untouchable.

There is a need to better understand the multitude of line items of the various central office departments. A cursory look at the board’s budget book will show numerous items that receive little or no attention because they are relatively small. Many items, with names like “Temp Part-Time Help,” “Other Prof Tech Services,” and “Other Supplies and Mater,” add up to a lot of money. In one central office department, there is a line for “Supplies” right above the line for “General Supplies.”

There is a need to meet periodically with the board’s insurance consultant to develop an accurate understanding of health insurance costs and issues. Insurance issues are costly and complex. It behooves Finance Committee members to grasp the legal issues and trends in this area. During the budget reconciliation process in June, it was announced that the board could achieve savings from “updated renewals” in medical benefits to the tune of $1.5 million. That raised questions about the initial projections.

There is a need to discuss problems associated with crafting a large budget without a contingency fund. During the reconciliation, Superintendent Corda and board members acknowledged that unanticipated situations arise during the course of any academic year and that money needs to be found to address these situations. Since the board generally does not request special appropriations from the city, members of the public and other city agencies often assume that various board accounts are padded.

These are just a few of the issues that I believe the board needs to address in the coming months. Of course, there are others — such as the board and city combining operations in areas like purchasing, or the possibility of the board hiring a full-time finance director. The important point is to begin the discussion and move forward.

Bruce Kimmel is a member of the Board of Education.

Tags: Education · In the News · Norwalk

27 Responses so far “Guest View: Kimmel Urges Budget Discussion”



  • 1 TaxpayingParent // Jul 5, 2007 at 9:47 am

    Great questions Bruce. You are the only true representative we have on the Board. Keep up the pressure for accountablility.

  • 2 Jerry Aldrich // Jul 5, 2007 at 10:14 am

    Bruce, I don’t know you from the “Man in the Moon” but the last drop of blood has been squeezed from the taxpayers in Norwalk. Just keep that in mind.

  • 3 anonymous // Jul 5, 2007 at 10:44 am

    Well said, Bruce. You’re taking the responsibilities of the Board seriously, not just a rubber stamp. Keep up the good work!

  • 4 Beach Bum // Jul 5, 2007 at 11:19 am

    I commend Kimmel for voicing his concerns about the lack of communication between the city government, BOE, and superintendent. My question to him is: how long have you been aware of this? You are currently a member of the BOE for about 2 yrs after being a member of the Common Council for how many yrs?

  • 5 Watchdog // Jul 5, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    Bruce:

    Quite simply: thank you.

  • 6 Anonymous // Jul 5, 2007 at 1:15 pm

    You make important points, Bruce. I noted that the Dems have decided to add another political activist hack the board. It will make your job harder, as they no doubt intended.

  • 7 Anon // Jul 5, 2007 at 3:37 pm

    #6: I don’t know a great deal about Shirley Mosbey, but I know she isn’t afraid to speak her mind. My hope is that she is paying attention to the very serious issues facing the schools in Norwalk. Shirley, please remember your role as a BOE member. While Bruce asked the question about the BOE’s role in the budget reconciliation, he well knew the answer. If it were not the BOE’s role to approve it, they wouldn’t have had to vote on it. As things are now, there is way too much power in the hands of a couple of central office people, and they are people who are woefully out of contact with the schools and with the staff of the schools.

  • 8 Anonymous // Jul 5, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    If she is John Mosbey’s relative the BOE is in for BIG trouble. Talk about controvercial, Bruce just doesn’t stand a chance. For that matter neother does anyone else. Although I am sure a deal was made with some inner circle people this just doesn’t look good for anyone. Sal Corda will have a field day with her.

  • 9 NTerrace // Jul 5, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    Is it just me, or does it seem that the Dems just have a greater amount of crazy people active in the party?

  • 10 anonymous // Jul 5, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    Can someone fill us in on the lawsuit Ms. Mosby filed against NEON ?

  • 11 Anonymous // Jul 6, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    Is anyone of these so called pro-education Dems asking their selected candidates where they stand on these issues. Will it be all politics and no common sense from their slate?

  • 12 Aunt Bertha // Jul 6, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    Bruce you are right when you ask for a break down into line item requests for the budget. Each teacher knows what they need to run their classroom for the year give or take a few dollars. (and we do give a whole lot of our own dollars) Why is it year after year this goes on? It will calm down in September right through to March and then it willstart all over again. There has to be a more logical way to put out the budget. And the BOE should know that it is a thorn in the side of a lot of tax payers in Norwalk.

  • 13 Anonymous // Jul 7, 2007 at 8:08 am

    Reduce the 75.1 positions in the Central Office!

  • 14 anonymous // Jul 7, 2007 at 8:14 am

    Ditto #13

  • 15 anonymous // Jul 7, 2007 at 9:32 am

    Reduce the 75.1 positions at the Central Office? Why can’t we start with reducing Opdall, and move on to his little butt kissing puppy dog George Giennetti! Next a payroll person, and onto a few of the underworked clerks, at the top of the pay scale, in the overstaffed finance dept. Let us not forget the IT dept, where they have assembled the biggest bunch of missfits the world of hi tech has ever seen. I’ve heard the personnel dept has a real peach too. The one that handles non certified employees who they say is a complete idiot, rude, sarcastic and self serving. But she was smart enough and able to got her Mom and Dad a job with benifets in the system. But this seems to be a widely accepted practice as Opdall has a son at NHS, and his puppy dogs wife is at tracey. Seems to support the theory that it is not what you know, but who you know. Next, lets establish a practice of only hiring top administrators who have already retired (or perhaps fired) from high paying positions in other districts so they can not only collect their pensions but are given the opportunity to double dip at the expense of the taxpayers. Now to me it wouldn’t seem that these retreads would be very hungry, or care too much about their performance level. Who are these retreads? Opdall, Corda, Lang, Routolo, Ciappetti, Mc Kiernan, Martinelli, Levinson, Budrawick, Marinaccio. I won’t even get into Morris, Mc Cready, and their ten people, or the supers personal assistant, who no one knows what she does. What a sorry state!

  • 16 Anonymous // Jul 7, 2007 at 9:51 am

    You forgot Moore who is a total waste of taxpayers money because she is so incompetent that she needs 3 yes 3 vice principals so she can focus her time on reverse discrimination and bullying. She acts like she’s on crack and her public persona is that of incompetence. When are the taxpayers going to get loud and I mean really loud and stop this travesty? No cuts to programs, no cuts to teachers, no cuts to sports etc is what everyone should be getting very loud about. Corda is replaceable, Opdhal is replaceable and so are the rest of these do nothing pocket pickers. How deep into our pockets are we willing to allow these hijackers to go before we do something about this? The BET and the council paved they way and now its up to the taxpayers to fulfill ther ultimate goal of accountability and transparency.

  • 17 anon // Jul 7, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    #16-good post-we need to force the BOE to hear us. They cannot just take the money and run. When is someone going to understand that Opdhal has stolen things(lathes etc. and was caught redhanded but nothing done), he has given his son carte blanche to dismantle and rebuild a classroom without input from anyone, he has culinary equipment sitting in Norwalk High School that hasn’t been unpacked and now he is buying new equipment for a culinary classroom, he hired someone with no experience at a high salary to oversee purchasing, he lied about the portable classrooms and cost the city alot of money because of it and still has his job. Corda has tramatised our kids by threats of program cuts, threatened teachers with job loss, layered central office with non performing admins, allowed double dipping by admins and now he wants to add more non productive people in the way of central registration personnel as well as turning a blind eye to all of the out of town students that we the taxpayers are dishing out $13,000 per year for and don’t let him fool you there are more than just a couple. In september, park your car at Marshall’s on Westport Ave and see them get off the Milford bus, then take a trip to the East Norwalk Train station as they come off the southbound train and after that sit a few yards down from any school and watch the parents drop their kids off out of view so no one sees them. Then you need to add this all up and start speaking up. As for Moore, she should have been gone long ago when the first complaint was filed against her.

  • 18 Beach Bum // Jul 7, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    Anon, I have a feeling these out-of-towners have been doing this even before Corda. But most of the BOE members have been in their elected seats (figuratively and literally) for years not holding the superintendent accountable. Unfortuately, the Norwalk residents are not mad enough to get rid of these BOE schmucks!

  • 19 anon // Jul 7, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    Beach Bum-then I guess they don’t mind having their pockets picked while trying to make a living for their kids who are being pushed aside by those who have no interest in doing whats right just as long as they have control. So, I guess we all just sit by until there are no more pockets to pick when everyone picks up and leaves for greener pastures.

  • 20 Beach Bum // Jul 7, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    Yes, Anon unless they’re voted out and replaced by elected knowledgeable and righteous individuals. Traditionally the BOE has authority over the superintendent and his administrators. Corda and his administrators must know about these out-of-towners. Mum’s the word as far as Corda is concerned. More kids registered in the school system means more money from the state and federal governments. (A typical bureacrat thinking!) If the BOE does not act to force Corda to get rid of the out-of-town kids, then no one will. The mayor can try. But I’m sure he does not have jurisdiction over the education system. (Or does he?)The recourse Norwalk has is to VOTE them out, ie BOE members or find a way to kick them out by using the laws already on the books.

  • 21 anon // Jul 7, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    Beach Bum, Corda knows and does nothing. When questioned he says oh is only a hand full but speaking to people with kids in school and those teachers willing to talk without fear of losing their jobs has estimated over 100 kids possibly 150. Now I’m not sure who’s hand Corda is referring to but if you multiply lets say for argument sake 125 kids by $13,000 each thats($1,625K) a huge total that taxpayers are dishing out for kids not their own. Its bad enough that seniors and those with no kids in the system are paying towards our kids but now we are asking them to pay for out of towners as well? No wonder so many are moving. Many parents are taking their kids out of Norwalk schools now that we’ve decided to dummy down the system. They are sending them to private schools that they can’t afford or they are moving altogether. Great advertising special for attracting businesses and homeowners to Norwalk.

  • 22 Beach Bum // Jul 7, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    Anon, Corda does nothing because the BOE refuses to hold him accountable. The BOE members are not doing their job! Norwalk voters need to vote them out. Please reread my #20.

  • 23 Anonymous // Jul 7, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    Great vision to have Mosby get an inside track to filing lawsuits. Clueless dems.

  • 24 anonymous // Jul 7, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    People need to ask Mrs. Mosby about the lawsuit she filed against NEON to shake them down for money for her. Were the members of the Norwalk DTC informed about what happened there ?

  • 25 Anonymous // Jul 8, 2007 at 8:22 am

    How ’bout some details for those of us who don’t know about this lawsuit?

  • 26 anonymous // Jul 8, 2007 at 11:12 am

    Mrs. Mosby should step forward and tell the public how and why she sued NEON.

  • 27 Anne Sullivan // Jul 9, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    Past posters to this blog have asked for input from Norwalk teachers – so here are some comments from a teacher. Please know that I love my job and truly love working with Norwalk children and parents. During the summer I check each weekly Staples circular carefully. It’s a particularly wonderful week for me. This week glue is on sale and for $.81 I can buy enough for my classroom for the upcoming school year. Of course, at the limit of three per customer, I have to round up my “Staples posse” to join me. Pencils on sale as well! I sometimes wonder what the Staples employees think as 10 people come through with pencils, glue, and exact change? I hope they understand that they are supplying a Norwalk classroom that would otherwise not have these materials, or have inferior materials that have been ordered at a bulk rate. This will leave the majority of the $2,000 I expect to spend on my students this year for books (to support Reader’s Workshop), copier/printer paper (two cases – to support Writer’s Workshop), and ink cartridges for the printer (replaced monthly). Teaching seems to be the only profession wherein we are held to such high standards (No Child Left Behind) but then we are expected to provide the bulk of our own learning materials. I provide these materials because the excitement and sparkle in my student’s eyes as they print their powerpoint shows, create a math word story using art materials, and explain why they selected a particular book from a larger selection of books more than rewards me for my monetary investment. I KNOW that my students will remember the learning experiences from the environment created in our room and carry these with them as they progress through the school system.

    Thank you for reading my comment.

Leave a Reply