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Norwalk: Peoples Republic of Rowayton Really Wants Truck Ban


by turfgrrl


June 17th, 2007 · 57 Comments

The peoples republic of Rowayton has been on record of demanding that trucks be barred from snaking along route 136, which runs through the heart of Rowayton. They claim, or at least according to the Adovcate, Darien First Selectwoman Evonne Klein, RTM rep Callie Sullivan, and head of Stop Thru Tucks Andrew Glazer. Why is it that we don’t hear complaints from the other side of MLK drive? You know, the place where there are also houses close to the road, narrow turns like Woodward to Burritt?

Route 136 is a state highway.

20.44 miles; from US 1 in Darien to Route 59 in Easton.
A small section (1.09 miles, between South Main and Washington Streets) in South Norwalk
is city-maintained; that’s why some maps show a gap in the road. Only Route 83
has a similar gap, in South Manchester.

In the 1920s, State Highway 136 followed today’s Route 37 and
Route 39 between Danbury and Sherman.

Route 136 was commissioned in 1932 as a 16.23-mile route entirely south of
US 1. Its original route, from west to east:

  • today’s Route 136, from US 1 in Darien to Compo Rd. in Westport
  • Greens Farms Road, past the vicinity of Sherwood Island State Park
  • Beachside Ave. to Pequot Ave.
  • Pequot Ave. to US 1 in Southport

In 1963, Route 136 was altered to its current location.

  • Connecticut State Highway Department. Routes and Road Numbers on the State Highway System, Showing Control Numbers and Sections. Dated Jan. 1, 1942.

href="http://www.state-ends.com/ctends/136.html">Route 136 Ends (Photos; Doug Kerr at state-ends.com)

(source: www.kurimi.com)

As it so happens I drive along 136 daily. The types of trucks I see are delivery trucks. You know, the kinds that deliver things that are ordered from online merchants, or furniture or water. The other interesting detail is that Rowayton seems adverse to the concept of sidewalks. Many neighborhoods have found that sidewalks do an excellent job of separating pedestrians from vehicle traffic. So my advice to the peoples republic of Rowayton is to stop shopping and getting stuff delivered and build sidewalks. As inspector Clouseau would say, problem solve-ed.

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  • 1 MGeake // Jun 17, 2007 at 8:12 am

    My father was a trucker; Mary’s father was a trucker. Neither would have taken their truck through Rowayton unless they had a stop to make. It would have slowed them down too much, so it just wouldn’t have made sense.

  • 2 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 8:30 am

    Happy Father’s guys!

  • 3 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 8:33 am

    http://www.rowaytonct.com/trafficabatement.html

  • 4 turfgrrl // Jun 17, 2007 at 8:36 am

    Thanks for the link anonymous #3.

  • 5 L'arlequino // Jun 17, 2007 at 8:44 am

    While Rowaytonites’ effeteness and disdain for the unwashed in Norwalk is an unpleasant feature of the town’s identity, they do have a point with respect to the truck traffic problems on 136.

    Anyone who doubts it should go hang out in front of the Rowayton Market in the morning or afternoon when the UPS trucks are coming and going. There is a virtual parade that passes through town.

  • 6 turfgrrl // Jun 17, 2007 at 8:56 am

    L’arlequino: 18 wheelers or the brown trucks? I rarely see the 18 wheelers coming up to MLK from wilson point, but I see many delivery trucks. Which as I said in my post, the solution is for Rowaytonites buy less stuff that requires delivery. I do see plenty of construction stuff on trailers heading into Darien however, so perhaps I should add that Darien should stop constructing new buildings.

  • 7 L'arlequino // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:14 am

    The problem isn’t delivery to Rowayton residents. It’s UPS trucks using 136 to access I95 and points beyond.

  • 8 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:16 am

    Unfortunately those in Rowayton prefer to be separate from the town they get all of their services from. They chose instead to align themselves with Darien. I’d like to ask one question. If Norwalk were to remove itself from Rowayton would Darien take them on and offer them the essential services they need to servive? Perhaps they may want to rethink their position on their need to remove themselves from the lower class people of Norwalk. Isn’t it amazing though that when they have a problem they turn to Norwalk to fix it. 136 is a cross over from Darien so why are they not going to them to fix this problem. At the end of 136 is the Darien town line, all Darien needs to do is post a sign that reads no trucks on this road between the hours of 7am to 6pm. But then there’s the problem of the businesses in the area who depend on deliveries during the day. Are the business owners willing to stay at their shops til after 6pm to accept deliveries? Perhaps they should request that no trucks travel this area that are not business related to the general area. See, there’s no simple answer here. Perhaps there will be a day when Rowayton incorporates and then can keep all the working class out. Its a village and subsection of the Town of Norwalk and nothing more. Its the same as South Norwalk, East Norwalk, etc. I have to agree with one thing however, those huge construction trucks need to either find a new route or slow the heck down. There are kids on that road going to school each and every day and they should not have their lives endangered because these huge monstrocities feel they own the road.

  • 9 turfgrrl // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:21 am

    L’arlequino: You didn’t specify the size of the truck.

  • 10 L'arlequino // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:31 am

    The daily parade consists of the brown trucks. As far as 18-wheelers and other large trucks go, I don’t know how bad the problem is with them. The study committee (Stop Thru Trucks) claims to have conducted a survey.

  • 11 Publius // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:36 am

    The secessionist elites of Rowayton are of the same philosophical tribe as the Wiltonites who misused evironmental regulations to block the much needed Super 7. Perhaps all the goods and services they consume should come to the “manor” in little carts pulled by serfs. I guess that the notions of “commonweal” and “noblesse oblige” are out of fashion in southwestern South Norwalk. All that matters to such folks is their own self-absorbed comfort.

  • 12 Watchdog // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:40 am

    There are issues and then there are ISSUES, and I generally make it a point to try and slip into the other guy’s shoes before passing judgment. In this case, L’arlequino generously tossed a slipper. I commend his/her open-mindedness. I wonder if IRR knows he/she owes L’arlequino a snifter on the beach.

    You are so right Turfie. We really need to know the specifics of the trucks in question: are they Macks or UPS? UPS can easily be controlled. In fact, deliveries will come to an abrupt halt with an immediate stop to LLBEAN and Eddie Bauer online shopping.

    By the way, Turf: your “People’s Republic of Rowayton” is positively brilliant.

  • 13 turfgrrl // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:42 am

    L’arlequino: Ah, brown trucks are delivery trucks. That would mean, ahem, Darien and Rowaytonites should get less stuff delivered ;) BTW, the service center that feeds the Norwalk MLK UPS center is Orange. So if you are getting a package from just about anywhere except within CT, it first goes in the large 18 wheelers to Orange, then comes to Norwalk.

  • 14 Mr Greenpeace // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:56 am

    was the survey done on Soth Norwalk streets during the winter where the streets are half as wide when the kids are waiting for the busses?

    Was the traffic survey done in south Norwalk after they did the one on MLK highway saying how the trafic was.

    Thre was one traffic report I’m sure didn’t make it through the cheifs office, the one that said it was a dangerous situation on Woodward st with all the trucks that are coming and going to the junk yards where on the wall sits many letters of praise from the police and fire depts for all the help in the past.

    Its a circus and the votes will just be rolling in after the ban see what the mayor did for us,,and not for South Norwalk like the voters mean anything in S Norwalk.

    what would Jimmy the greek say 10 to 1 on who votes 1 from Norwlak to ever 10 in Rowyaton or am I wrong do they partici[ate in Norwalk elections thats how uniformed I am..

    Those who want Soth Norwalk to be a blighted little section of the city who let all the industrial build around residential pollute the air and land continue to have the trucks emit their smoke..

    Not for nothing but what is being said all the trucks we have now from UPS Emery Busses from Laidlaw , Pepperage farm and woodward ave clogging the streets there will be more I an’t fathom there was anymore than what we wee now,,another Mr mayor blunder.

    He knows about the problem he sent his own people down to Woodward ave to do a undercover study that never saw the light and who do we get that missing info from?

    His Police chief?

    DOT has been down to Woodward and stated to many infractions in such a small area to have the resources to handle, they would need Norwalks help and there waiting for us to ask,, send Matt my way I’ll point him in a direction or just write me Noelle I’ll give you the info..

    Looks like another slam dunk by the mayor a nice out of school ploy so when we needed to look at the situation the kids are not there nice move on the powers to be.

  • 15 turfgrrl // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:58 am

    watchdog: :) Somehow I know that Gladys Kravitz would feel right at home.

  • 16 Mr Greenpeace // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:00 am

    I asked for a study and asked for all this to be documented two years ago and since its gotten worse for the Woodward, S main st Water street areas, I didn’t stop asking they stop listening.

    Any given day cell phone, no seat belts and never a full stop at most intersections in South Norwalk can be seen at rush hour..if you can’t make the next armed robbery or the next shooting try a stop sign to see what i described bring the kids the ice cream truck comes at 5 also

  • 17 clown posse // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:02 am

    So, what you’re saying is hey, Rowayton, shut up and put up with the same crappy stuff that makes Norwalk the hole in the donut. Who do you think you are pushing for quality of life issues? Norwalk (in general) is so quick to bend over and say “we don’t desrve better” and then resent the other town’s “elitism”. Norwalk has a true blue collar mentality — glorify being taken advantge of by the “bosses” as noble, working class and carp about the the bosses tyring to be “better than that”. Get over it Norwalk — you’re as good as Rowayton and Darien and desrve to speak up and get trucks out oif your neighborhood too — if that’s what you want! I remember hearing a Spinnaker developer talking about the Norden development site at a public hearing. In response to a public comment about improving the architecture, he defended the more “basic” approach by saying “Look, it’s not like this is Rowayton or Westport”. Argghhh…

  • 18 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:07 am

    IRR from PRR can STFU and then KMA…

  • 19 turfgrrl // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:09 am

    clown posse: Rowayton can build sidewalks and stop ordering stuff to be delivered. That is the real solution to the “problem.”

  • 20 MGeake // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:12 am

    Traffic has come up in a couple of threads this weekend, but always as a local concern. This is an issue that has to be solved regionally.

    Why is there so much traffic on side streets? In part, because for decades Fairfield County residents have managed to block improvements to I-95, the Merritt Parkway, and Super-7. When I used to work in Rye, I would not get on the highway until Exit 10, even though I live six blocks from Exit 14. Now that I work in New Jersey, I get on at Exit 14, but I do so at 5:30am to avaoid the traffic.

    So often, it is claimed that mass transit is the answer to all our ills. This is a very important tool, but it is hardly the whole toolbox. According to the United States Census, one commuter in twelve in this area uses mass transit. Let’s assume that we spend the billions necessary to improve the rails, the rail cars, the stations, parking, and feeder systems, and we manage to double the utilization, five out of every six commuters are still on the roads (and we still would be continuing to send them the bill through our outrageous gas tax).

    I also live six blocks from the South Norwalk train station. On those occasions when I needed to ride the train to Rye (an 18 mile trip driveway to driveway), it took me an hour and a half and a train change in Stamford or Greenwich to get within a mile and a half of my office. Since I’m disabled and walk with a cane, I had to then spend more for a taxi than I had for the train.

    To get to my office in New Jersey, I can ride all the way from South Norwalk to Grand Central, but seating is at a premium and I connot stand on a moving train. Then I need to to take the subway (a long walk from the Metro North tracks) to Times Square, another subway to Penn Station, another long walk to the Path Train tracks, then a train to a station a three mile taxi ride from my office.

    The fundamental point of this whole rant is that we need to come up with a global solution, not all the local band-aids we seem to be so fond of.

  • 21 L'arlequino // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:14 am

    #17 - I agree. Norwalk and its elected officials are stuck in a mode of self-loathing that keeps them from climbing out of the donut hole and from sharing in the pie that the surrounding communities gorge on.

    One thing that I will credit Rowayton residents with is their ability to organize when they want to bring attention to an issue and then follow through on it. Need $50k for new playground equipment at Bayley Beach? No problem. How about renovating the library with a branded capital campaign? No problem. Four mil for preserving Farm Creek? Well, we’ll see how that goes.

    The point is, the residents there realize they can get things done if they raise their voices and make their concerns known.

    In Norwalk what I’ve seen tends to be reactionary rather than proactive, such as the response to the grubby plans to commercialize Vets’ Park.

    If I’m off base here, someone correct me, please. Meanwhile, I have a call. It’s my mom. I’ll put her on speaker…

  • 22 nwlktaxpayer // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:18 am

    Mr. Greenpeace, have you contacted your local councilman? Have they answered you? Have they come down to see the problems? Maybe thats exactly what you need to do. This is why they were elected. To represent you and your neighbors. I haven’t heard one word about any of them visiting the area or taking any interest whatsoever. Perhaps this is a step you should consider. They want to get elected again and again, they pat themselves on the back for all their accomplishments yet have they been to the area? Have they spent a day in the life? I’ll bet if they read this blog and my post they will be hounding you like a sick puppy so they can take credit for coming to your rescue. When was the last time a council person was in your area addressing your concerns? Hilliard, Bolden,Representing residents of South Norwalk Briggs, Krummel? Representing residents of HarborView, Village Creek, Rowayton, Brookside and West Norwalk.
    These people represent you and your surrounding area.

    Then you have your council at large Coffey, Peruban, Miklave, Sutton and Romano,
    Representing all residents of Norwalk
    Looks like you have a pretty big list to choose from.

  • 23 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:22 am

    #22 - I like it! Council members, come on down to Woodward and be a crack ho for a day! See what it’s like selling yourself for something other than political rewards!

  • 24 nwlktaxpayer // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:35 am

    Not quite sure that’s what I had in mind. I was thinking more on the lines of regular citizens in the area giving them a tour of the area and pointing out the conditions without the sugar coating of land developers and anyone else who feel the need to show So.Norwalk as a great place to live and thrive. Crack Ho? I just can’t picture Bolden, Hilliard or Briggs perched on a wall lighting up a pipe or Krummel being there at all! He can’t even stand the site of Colonial Villiage, imagine his distaste for reality!

  • 25 Mr Greenpeace // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:38 am

    a call to Duffs office told me real estate does not mix with my issues, a call to Morris told me to walk away, becuase my facts and figures don’t serve any electoral purpose the council could not pursue.

    I must say though the folks out here are smarter than the average bear,,I mean this sincerly by the way.

    here is something to think about and think who could handle info the this.

    a Hillaburton report said early on in the superfund site in Norwalk once the foundations were removed from the site there could be a nest of contaminants uncovered, the buildings are being removed the foundations are still there.

    The wells were deigned to mix water in the dicharge to offset any contaminents going into the supply what did that mean the plume of contaminants are already within the well field,

    they decribed one chemical of concern the other night in an article but they found 9 in the beginning.

    I’m sure you realize after years of remediation of superfund projects last week found three sites became saturated once more and became as dangerous as once first started.the same office is resposible for the site here in Norwalk,

    Its time to revisit this site ask questions and why the well fields were not shut down from day one is beyond any logic had seen on any other project I was on in the last 30 years.

    draw water from a ell depress the water table and allow any contaminants to flow in the depression, thats how we do gas tankers that roll over and lose their loads,,we go in punch wells around the spill and then suck the water out so gas fills in the void and pump that like the well fields in Norwalk,

    something to think about it, not saying the water is bad but I drink spring water no matter where i go,,and never on vacation drink a coffee from a gas station that has no fire hydrants in rural areas, if the tanks leak and the well water is used for coffee ,well then drink regular it might be better than high test..

  • 26 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:39 am

    Oh, ok. Something more along the lines of “Crack Line” tours.

  • 27 clown posse // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:43 am

    TG — your attitude about Rowaytinites is clearly biased, in effect telling them to “suck it up and stop complaining.” Do you bring this anti-Rowaton bias to your zoning decisions?

  • 28 Interested Republican Rowaytonite // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:49 am

    Happy Father’s Day to All ! I just had a wonderful breakfast of bagels and smoke salmon while watching the nice summer breeze ! Those darned trucks should stay out of our Rowayton neighborhoods since they get close to my 740 on some of our narrow roads. We pay so much in taxes, the least that can be done is to keep these unseemly trucks off our roads in Rowayton. Thankfully, one of city elected officials lives in the neighborhood and has convinced the city to keep these trucks away from our expensive homes. Toodles !

  • 29 nwlktaxpayer // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:55 am

    clown posse-thats totally unfair to say about turf, she has given everyone a place to vent and discuss and because she holds a position on the zoning board she stays out of things that would affect her decision making. I don’t believe her comment was geared to suck it up, what I do believe was she was being practical when she said that if you eliminate deliveries this would alleviate many of the problems but she also understands this is not practical for those who run businesses in the area. I think #8 had the best solution- At the end of 136 is the Darien town line, all Darien needs to do is post a sign that reads no trucks on this road between the hours of 7am to 6pm. But then there’s the problem of the businesses in the area who depend on deliveries during the day. Are the business owners willing to stay at their shops til after 6pm to accept deliveries? Perhaps they should request that no trucks travel this area that are not business related to the general area.

  • 30 turfgrrl // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:58 am

    clown posse: Obviously you don’t seem to read all that well. I prefer facts to anecdotal evidence. But go ahead and blame me for pointing out the obvious.

  • 31 another republican view // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:04 am

    Interested Republican Rowaytonite - good for you! What about those who don’t live where you do? Should they be subjected to what you don’t want? Traffic is a problem everywhere, exhaust fumes are a problem everywhere, huge trucks are a problem everywhere. Try getting down East Ave, try getting down main Ave, Do you think no one lives in these areas? What about MLK Drive? people live there too! Darien is just as congested, thats why they cut off onto 136 to avoid the congestion. Until the state does something about I-95 and its on and off ramps all parts of Norwalk, and yes, even Rowayton will be affected. We’d all like to be watching the tides and feeling the breezes off the sound while sipping our coffee and noching on salmon and bagels but most of us live in the real world and understand the real problems. Keep in mind, you are a part of South Norwalk and the problems that exist there and you should be just as concerned as those who don’t live your lifestyle. My God folks, we all live in Norwalk and its all of our problem.

  • 32 clown posse // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:10 am

    What’s the opposite of NIMBY? Maybe SLID — Suffer Like I Do?

  • 33 turfgrrl // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:11 am

    MGeake: Excellent points. Traffic is a huge regional issue, and one that is threatening the economic viability of our city and surrounding areas.

    One other fact to note is that the weight of vehicles traveling over our roads impacts their durability. Vehicles like Hummers, Escalades, Suburbans, Navigators and Yukons, for example, all have models that are over 6,000 pounds in curb weight and far over 6,000 pounds in gross vehicle weight. The curb weight measures a vehicle without cargo or passengers, while the gross vehicle weight measures a theoretical cargo that includes people or stuff. Rowayton ave for example, has many huge potholes, or sinkholes. Witch lane has issues too. 6000 pounds of vehicle weight is bad for pedestrians no matter what the vehicle looks like.

  • 34 Roton Homeowner // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:21 am

    I think Turfgrrl has a point about the lack of sidewalks in Rowayton. I walk in the streets, along with my granddaughter and avoid Wilson ave because of the traffic. It’s not just delivery trucks, it is large SUVs that are just as dangerous.

  • 35 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:23 am

    Clown posse, no one said you had to suffer like others do, just understand there’s things that need to be done on a much larger scale in order to tackle the local problems. Blaming local elected officials is a great pastime but these are problems that have existed and grown over many years and will not go away until the state recognizes Norwalk as something other that part of the goldcoast community. They are ignoring the needs of those who are in need to further their own agendas. Norwalk has a handful(less than) of state elected officials who just can’t get those in Hartford to understand that we need those dollars. No matter how hard they try, no one up there is listening. We have real problems and concerns that need to be addressed by state and federal entities. Band aid applications to local problems are not what we need. years and years of neglect by our state and federal officials has resulted in Norwalk not getting what we need to make Norwalk a focal point of tourism and healthy living. Stop trying to blame only the local officials and start looking at the big picture. When thoise in Hartford disperse funding they see us as a cluster of one of the rich towns and they bypass us like we are not worthy of their efforts.

  • 36 Interested Republican Rowaytonite // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:30 am

    Rowayton is not part of South Norwalk. The difference between our houses are about 3.5 million dollars. I live on the water and they do not. I really wish candidates would step forward that will represent Rowayton’s interests, instead of looking at us like a blank check.

  • 37 clown posse // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:34 am

    Correct, 35. But, ideally, actions on a local level get the attention of local elected officials who then are motivated enough to escalate to higher levels. Unfortunately, since the Mayor has never been more than a minor functionary in the local Republican party, he has no broader contacts that might get needed leverage for Norwalk.

  • 38 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:38 am

    Hey IRR, South Norwalk has waterfront properties in the millions range also. And like it or not, you sir, live in Norwalk.

  • 39 Mr Greenpeace // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:39 am

    meanwhile we wait for a child to get killed and say its time to respond to the problem .Norwalk will never be a destination for tourism and healty living the way we are going with what we have for elected officials. I blame who I see can help and won’t , I blame the ones who in all honesty see the problems but use red herrings to run the residents around,,too bad we can’t hear from the ones that can’t post out hear the ones who are directly effected by crime , traffic and economic depression because of where they live.

    The feds are looking into the environmental aspect of Norwalk tied to the housing developments near pollution they are responsible to the residents for the a safe place to live. I’m sure you won’t see anything mentioned in the Brownfeild reports that our own city is responsible for by our own elected officials and not the ones in Hartford.

  • 40 ctlawyer // Jun 17, 2007 at 11:42 am

    clown posse you seem to be misstating quite a few things today. Richard Moccia is well respected within the GOP statewide. He has many more contacts on both sides of the aisle than his predecessor.

  • 41 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Thats the problem Interested Republican Rowaytonite, people can’t get it through their heads that Rowayton is a part of South Norwalk, look at the postal codes my friend, 06853/06854 Both South Norwalk postal codes. Because you are fortunate enough to live in a 3.5 million dollar home does not make you any less part of South Norwalk than those living on Merritt Street or Martin Luther King Drive. Its just means you have been more successful or in some cases you inherited your money. Just for your info, there are many areas in NORWALK that have multimillion dollar homes and they are also paying taxes the same as you.

    NORWALK, CT 06851- List Price $1,175,000 Beds 4
    Property Type Single Family Baths 2 Full, 1 Half

    NORWALK, CT 06851-List Price $1,100,000 Beds 6
    Property Type Single Family Baths 4 Full, 1 Half

    NORWALK, CT 06850-List Price $1,099,000 Beds 4
    Property Type Single Family Baths 2 Full, 1 Half

    Property Type: Single Family -Price: $2,769,900
    Bedrooms: 5 Baths: 4 Full Baths, 1 Half Bath
    Lot Size: 0.16 Acres Area: Norwalk, CT 06853

    Price: $2,750,000 Bedrooms: 6 Baths: 5 Full Baths, 2 Half Baths Lot Size: 0.85 Acres
    Area: Norwalk, CT 06855

    Property Type: Single Family -Style: Colonial-Price: $2,499,000 Bedrooms: 5 Baths: 4 Full Baths, 2 Half Baths Lot Size: 1.00 Acres
    Area: Norwalk, CT 06855

    So what you are saying is that these people do not contribute the same as you?

  • 42 clown posse // Jun 17, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    Of course, the other way to look at it is that South Norwalk is really another part of Rowayton. That should help in the marketing…

  • 43 say no trucks // Jun 17, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    I have two children and live in Rowayton. Truck traffic is a problem. Gwen Briggs and Bob Duff has assured me that they will do whatever it takes to make sure that the transportation officials do their homework. Bill Krummel is unresponsive. I sincerely hope that you people take into consideration that it’s my children whose lives are at risk whenever a trcuk comes barrelling through. I don’t think it’s much to ask for a law that can improve the safety of children.

  • 44 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    #43 - Tell you what: you come live over on Gregory Blvd. and I’ll come live over on 136, then tell me which is worse in terms of dangerous traffic. Norwalk police give lip service only to the problems of speeding on this, the “bad” side of the harbor. Don’t expect too much sympathy from those of us with our own problems to deal with.

  • 45 Anonymous // Jun 17, 2007 at 12:40 pm

    say no trucks-you are exactly correct and this was already indicated in #8’s posting. The inconvenience to adults does not come close to the lives of children. This is where the focus should be, the safety of the kids! Again, multimillion dollar home owners live in ALL sections of Norwalk and the problems exist in ALL sections of Norwalk,and they all have kids, what we are forgetting is our kids are affected by these trucks and keep in mind there are other council people that you can get onboard with this. If you could spend a morning in East Norwalk/South Norwalk/Cranbury area etc. and see the children walking to school as these truck wiz by without regard you will understand this is not secluded to Rowayton. Truck drivers need to be made responsible for their actions. No elected official is excluded from this never ending problem. No elected official should tell you they can fix the problem because unless everyone is onboard(local, state and federal) nothing will get done.

  • 46 Aunt Bertha // Jun 17, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    I rememeber growing up in Norwalk and Rowayton was where all the summer homes were with small winding streets and little markets and the post office. I remember I95 on a week end where if something dropped off of the roof of your packed station wagon (country squire) you could pull over and get it from the middle of the highway. I think there is to much truck traffic period in CT. Things used to go by rail and trucking companies would pick it up for local stops along the way. I am sorry Rowayton you are not alone on this issue. The other problem is that look around when I was a kid each house had one car if you were well off you had a nice Sunday car and then the beatter for everyday. Now how many cars are in the streets and drive ways of each family on your street?

  • 47 Beach Bum // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    To #45 and all those expressing concern over speeding trucks and cars in Norwalk- If I am not mistaken there is no incentive for the Norwalk Police Dept and other local police departments to issue traffic tickets. About 90% of the money collected goes to the State court system. That means only 10% goes to Norwalk. If the traffic violation is worth $150, do you really think a police officer is going to spend so much time issuing a ticket worth $15 for Norwalk? I am in no way showing disrespect to the NPD. But let’s face it, their job is to protect us not to be bill collectors for Hartford.

    Supposedly Sen. Bob Duff was trying to pass a bill to increase the police depts’ share. Nothing came of it as far as I know.

    If the police department is given the right incentive to issue tickets, assorted traffic violations would be minimized. No new laws would need to be added to the books.

    Also, points would be added to the violators license. Their insurance rate would skyrocket. If the law breaker has enough violations, isn’t his driver’s license suspended or revoked? Violators must be taught that driving is not a right but only a privilege.

  • 48 others // Jun 17, 2007 at 10:45 pm

    There is one simple overlying fact. RTE #136 is a State Highway. All vehicles including trucks are allowed to use State Highways.
    People who do not want truck traffic on or near their street should not buy homes in the area of a State Highway
    I cannot believe anyone with common sense would think otherwise. In real estate do your home work and buyer beware.
    If this is the way it is suppose to be I can think of a few other state highways in town that the residents would like to eliminate truck.
    Why don’t we eliminate all trucks on the roads, no fuel, no food, and no mail order deliveries, no school buses.
    Next lets stop the trains going through Royalton , the must make some kind of noise that bothers someone.
    My bet is nothing will get done because there is nothing that can be done.
    The only way you will stop tractor trailers is to put a weigh station on #136 and I’m sure that is not an acceptable solution.

  • 49 Mr Greenpeace // Jun 18, 2007 at 12:02 am

    why put a wiegh station in we have one on Woodward ave at Lajoys capable of taking tractor trailors lets set one up a station there ,,,,figure what 10 percent of a childs life is worth while waiting for Duff to get off his duff for the children of Norwalk would be wrong,

    I agree with a lot of the thoughts kids should come first no matter where they live.

  • 50 formerrowayontonite // Jun 18, 2007 at 9:19 am

    First, Darine is all for the ban. They can not just post a sign as it is a state road. Darien chief of police is behind the ban. Deliverying goods bought on line? What a joke. The ban would be on through trucks (trucks not making deliveries). So there goes that weak arguement. Here is the problem plain and simple. Growth of SoNo for factories/shipping facilities and congestion on roads from there to 95 results in truckers taking 136. It is ridiculous and only pure luck has resulted in no serrious accident. “Oh build sidewalks” another lame remedy. Mr Luther King Highway was built and legally supposed to stop trucks in Rowayton.

    I say we forget all this debate and simple in force the court order form years ago. Either that or pay off the DOT.

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