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by turfgrrl


May 7th, 2007 · 70 Comments

Chris Shays-R, has been conducting a series of town hall meetings amongst the 4th CD towns. Yesterday he was in Norwalk. I was tempted to go, but in the end I recognized that once again the Iraq war would dominate at the expense of an issue that directly affects the 4th CD and Norwalk. The news reports confirmed my assessment. The Advocate revealed that the rail cars promised so many moons ago, are coming. After CT DOT made every indecision and bad decision they could. So what did they do? From the Advocate:

Since a $3.2 million deal to repair and refurbish 33 used cars was reached a year ago, the contractor, Kawasaki Rail Car Inc. in Yonkers, N.Y., has delivered 24 cars to the state, said Eugene Colonese, rail administrator in the DOT’s rail bureau.

he state has added 13 cars to Shore Line East and Metro-North’s Waterbury branch and is testing 11 more for service, Colonese said.

Once the state receives the final nine cars from Kawasaki, it will be able to rotate spare cars from Shore Line East onto the main New Haven Line, reaching the 2,000-seat goal promised to commuters more than three years ago.

The state agreed to purchase 33 used rail cars from Virginia Railway Express three years ago as part of an initiative to add seats to the overcrowded New Haven Line before new rail cars arrive in 2009.

But delays and miscalculations by the DOT kept the project from progressing as ridership increased to record highs.

First, the DOT had a hard time securing a contract with Amtrak to lease locomotives that could pull the used rail cars. Once the locomotives were leased, the DOT couldn’t find a contractor interested in repairing the cars, configuring them to work on state rail lines and removing the Virginia logos from the exteriors.

Gov. M. Jodi Rell has chided the DOT for the delays. Last year, once a contract was signed with Kawasaki, she visited its Yonkers plant to check on the project.

Jim Cameron, chairman of the Connecticut Rail Commuter Council, said commuters await the extra seats as overcrowding continues to plague the New Haven Line.

“The whole purpose of the (Virginia) deal was to improve service on the New Haven Line, not Shore Line East,” Cameron said. “We need to put those extra cars into service.”

And Rell’s answer to the problems at the DOT are to hire lawyers to assess the organization. I’m too disgusted to rant about this. But feel free to rant about this or anything else in the comments.
source: Advocate, Repaired railroad cars are on their way, , May 7 2007

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  • 1 anonymousObserver // May 7, 2007 at 10:06 am

    Bravo! Kimmel is correct in today’s op-ed in the Hour. Let’s get our act together and have less passivity on the BOE. The members have the power, now they have to do the work. Bruce has always done his homework and I’m sure he is frustrated with the rest of the Board.

  • 2 Anonymous // May 7, 2007 at 10:15 am

    Bruce Kimmel has had two years to get “less passivity” on the BOE. If he’s frustrated, it’s because he’s just as responsible for doing nothing as the rest of them.

  • 3 health care // May 7, 2007 at 11:18 am

    There was a rally for universal health care in Hartford over the weekend. Did anyone here go?

  • 4 mattw // May 7, 2007 at 11:18 am

    Actually Shays punts Iraq discussion until the last 20-30 minutes of each session, takes a dozen “questions”, then does his spiel.

  • 5 Enrwlker // May 7, 2007 at 11:55 am

    I agree with everything Kimmel says in his Op-Ed, but it’s a bit premature to give Kimmel bravos. As #2 points out, Bruce has been on the BoE for 2 years. He sat there through two budget seasons, voting down the line for Corda’s budgets, writing Op-Ed after Op-Ed defending them, but now he says the whole process is fundamentally flawed. He’s right, but he waited until two entire budgets went through before he said so?

    Bruce also fought against the PWC audit of the schools tooth and nail and, like his fellow BoE members, has done nothing to pull it off the shelf and review it.

    Actions speak a lot louder than words. So far, all we’ve ever gotten from Bruce is words. Let’s see if he actually DOES anything before we give him bravos …

  • 6 anonymousObserver // May 7, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    As all educators will tell you, we should praise and encourage good behavior. I have no problem praising the one member who woke up. Don’t kill the messenger.

    Bruce may not be liked by his fellow members and he may well have been trying behind the scenes, to no avail. I know that when he gets frustrated (as he was with Mayor Knopp) he goes to the papers. Let’s see if he can light a fire under the old worn-out members like Vetter, Fuller and Murray. They’re so tired that they haven’t had an idea in 10 years. Perhaps he’ll get a little support and backbone from the newer members…but don’t expect much from Rivas,JBPullan or SHamilton. They’re still trying to figure it all out, and JBP is the Chair! They always wait to be told what to do next…not an inspiring group.

  • 7 hitcow // May 7, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    Time is better spent trying to replace Chris shays. Its sad we have a republican at all in congress.

  • 8 lets get real // May 7, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    #7-what a dumb thing to say. Should we have all democrats in congress? I don’t think so. There would be no debate and we would be handed their agenda without a bit of consideration. As for Chris Shays, you only wish you had his character and respect. Just because has been Farrell couldn’t run the town of Westport except into the ground and then tried to worm her way into higher politics all you crybabies keep whining and crying about the one good thing that came out of the last election. Chris Shays is a man of integrity and you just can’t handle it. Perhaps you could do better. I think not! All you democrats do is bad mouth the republicans and never come up with a viable candidate that could even shine Chris’ shoes. Get over it, Farrell is where she belongs, home with her family and not putting her hands on important things anymore. God knows she left a huge mess in Westport, thankfully she didn’t get the chance to destroy congress.. It amazes even the most independant of us voters how you guys think that the dems should rule the world. GOD FORBID!

  • 9 ENrwlker // May 7, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Well, we know how well things work when you only have Democrats in office — look at Norwalk’s illustrious Board of Education, 9-0 Democratic-controlled. ;-)

  • 10 lets get real // May 7, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    Exactly! Corda dishes it out, they serve it up with with no questions asked and taxpayers pay the price with no voice in the matter and this is why some like #7 would have all Democrats in office so they can push their agendas on taxpayers who would have absolutely choice! Thankfully we have independants and unaffiliated voters amongst us or we’d be in big trouble.

  • 11 Better Dead than Red // May 7, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    Yeah, we know how well government functions when all the power is in one party’s hands. Just look at the disaster that has been the result of the the do-nothing Republican Congress bending over for the Shrub & Co. for the last seven years.

  • 12 lets get real // May 7, 2007 at 5:15 pm

    and the democrats are doing what?

  • 13 dem4life // May 7, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    Chris Shays is a nice guy that is hopelessly out of touch with this district. His integrity went ou t the window with his votes on supporting Bush Co.

  • 14 Better Dead than Red // May 7, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    Hey, give em a chance. They’ve only had what, four months to undo the previous seven years of damage? The wheels of incompetence turn slowly.

  • 15 lets get real // May 7, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    apparently you don’t pay too close attention to what he does and doesn’t do. http://www.house.gov/shays/
    perhaps this will enlighten you. There are republicans who don’t agree with everything he does as well but for the most part he is definately one who admits when he is wrong and takes steps to correct it.

  • 16 anonymous // May 7, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    Chris Shays did nothingbut rubber stamp every crack pot Tom DeLay position. His only saving grace is that he isn’t part of the K-street money grab.

  • 17 lets get real // May 7, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    #14-your wheels are running backwards!

  • 18 Better Dead than Red // May 7, 2007 at 5:34 pm

    #17 - Don’t you have some “Fair and Balanced” propaganda on Fox News to catch up on, or something? You call yourself an independent but your inner Limbaugh seems to be seeping through the veneer of impartiality.

  • 19 AnonymousDem // May 7, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    Hah! Inner Limbaugh, great one Better Dead.

  • 20 anonymous // May 7, 2007 at 6:40 pm

    The damage done to this country by the inept republicn congress will take years to fix. Just look at the damage in the Dept. of Justice.

  • 21 Broke Citizen // May 7, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    Shays has got to go, but not because he’s a republican, but rather because, except for the war, he is really a closet democrat.

  • 22 ENrwlker // May 7, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    #20 — Bush is firing a handful of Federal prosecutors (which is his right under the Constitution). Clinton fired ALL of the Federal prosecutors. Exactly what damage are you talking about, and wouldn’t you agree that the damage done by Clinton must have been vastly greater?

  • 23 Democrat against Cafero // May 8, 2007 at 1:00 am

    Larry Cafero needs to retire- it is time for him to leave Hartford. He has done nothing for his district nor Norwalk to bring home money.

  • 24 Better Dead than Red // May 8, 2007 at 6:35 am

    ENrwlker - Once again, a Republican picking and choosing elements of the truth that suit your purposes. Sounds like you’ve been drinking the Fox News/Bill Kristol/Limbaugh Kool-Aid too.

    All presidents, as you no doubt know, are entitled to choose to replace Federal prosecutors who “serve at their pleasure.” What you fail to note is that Bush (more likely his handler, Rove) did not do this at the beginning of his term, unlike other Presidents, and is suspected of attempting to orchestrate the ousters for political purposes in order to manipulate the outcomes of the 2006 elections. The targeted individuals in several cases were under pressure by Republican House and Senate candidates to prosecute Democratic candidates who were being investigated for corruption or suspected of enabling “voter fraud”.

    Typically, this administration of buffoons screwed up and are being investigated for their motivations and covering up their incompetence more so than the actual firings.

  • 25 concerned citizen // May 8, 2007 at 8:36 am

    I prefer you “Dead” than “red” myself having to read your demo-crapic verbal diarhea. Attacking Fox news Fair & Balenced are you? What do you watch? CNIdiot (Let’s brodcast George Bush with a BIG X over his face -this is fair & balenenced to you?), MSLSD, Srewball with Chris “lib” Mathews”, or maybe you read the New York Slimes - you know, “all the news that’s fit to make up” How many of their reporters have “embelished” shall we say? ANd by the way, ALL those cable news outlets YOU watch COMBINED don’t equal Fox -THAT IS A COLD HARD FACT. And it just kills soft bellied libs like yourself-oh well too bad. why don’t you look for “Air - America” are they even still on the air? Can’t get funding because no one listens to that crap - except you of course Dead. Don’t Blame Cafero either Brainiac your useless Dems are in control of the State legislature, In case you need to be reminded. It IS because of them that they don’t send us our fair share of tax dollars back to Norwalk. We get ONLY 10 cents of every dollar we send to Hartford. Thank your DEMS. Inept Congress???> Look at YOUR Party of Dimwits..Pelosi? Reid? Shummer? Are You for Real? Talk about the gang that couldn’t straight. As for Fed Prosecutors - who cares when He fired them, He can fire them whenever the hell he chooses. And to mention Rove, That’s all you jealous Libs do Yip Yappy about Rove. Grow up!

  • 26 Better Dead than Red // May 8, 2007 at 8:40 am

    Off our meds today, are we? I would suggest you do a bit of fact-checking but then you’d have to look at some hard truths. No use arguing with a sick mind, I always say.

  • 27 ENrwlker // May 8, 2007 at 8:48 am

    Better Dead than Red — odd choice for a name, since your philosophy seems distinctly more in line with the old “Better Red than Dead” viewpoint …

    Anyway, who is it that ’suspects’ Bush “of attempting to orchestrate the ousters for political purposes in order to manipulate the outcomes of the 2006 elections”? Such noted non-partisans as Charles Schumer? “Suspects” is a long, long way from proof, yet you seem to accept it as an established fact. That sounds very much like “picking and choosing elements of the truth that suit your purposes” to me.

  • 28 Misplaced priorities // May 8, 2007 at 9:04 am

    The Great Society–a 6 trillion dollar welfare state failure!

  • 29 concerned citizen // May 8, 2007 at 9:05 am

    You got East Norwalker. Thats what libs do - pick in choose AND EMBELISH. Obviously he listens to people like Al Franken-stein. He also has a problem with Rush Limbaugh. Again More people listen to Rush than ANY of the dim-wits “dead” listens to. It seems Mr. Dead has a case of Rush-phobia, he’s also Rove-phobic, Bush-phobic and so on and so on. Get yourself some help there buddy.

  • 30 Democrat against Cafero // May 8, 2007 at 9:06 am

    Concerned Citizen: These are just a few reasons to dump Cafero next year.

    1. The Speaker Amann- says he is shocked that Larry gets elected every year- because, he brings home “beacon bits”. This guy talks a lot- but does nothing.

    2. Cafero voted to block 17 years from voting in primaries. Why?

    3. He also voted to block the Plan B bill. Why?

    4. Being leader of the mighty 44- you should get something done.

    5. Does he support unverisal heath care? NO

    6. Does he support the same sex marriage bill? No

    7. He is also a double dipping politican- his law firm lobby’s in

    Hartford- and he gets paid twice.

    Let’s encourage a candidate to run against this career politican.

    Dump Larry Cafero

  • 31 anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 11:48 am

    It does seem concerned citizen is off-something. Fortunately there are more interesting people here to chat about issues with. There are other ALL-CAPS blogs that are more suited to your style.

  • 32 Anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 11:59 am

    #28 - Misplaced Priorities - the total cost of Bush’s failed Iraq war over the last FOUR years: $500 billion and rising.

    It sounds like you might be referring to the cost of welfare? The National Debt? What?

    LBJ’s Great Society initiative started FORTY-THREE years ago (if you really believe that it still exists), so that means its cost has been $139 billion per year. At the rate BushCoâ„¢ is going, they’ll hit the $6 trillion mark (which right-wing nutcase website did you get that figure from?) in only 44 more years. Nice to know that our tax dollars can be spent to destroy other societies at almost the same rate as they were meant to be used to improve our own.

    Instead of using taxpayer dollars to fuel an immoral (and illegal) war for the oily Neo-Con-artists of the Project for a New American Century, here is what that Iraq war money could do for US taxpayers domestically:

    “What could that kind of money buy?

    A college education - tuition, fees, room and board at a public university - for about half of the nation’s 17 million high-school-age teenagers.

    Pre-school for every 3- and 4-year-old in the country for the next eight years.

    A year’s stay in an assisted-living facility for about half of the 35 million Americans age 65 or older.”

    The rest of the depressing truth can be found here: http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/17158768.htm

  • 33 ENrwlker // May 8, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    #32 — What’s the basis for your claim that the Iraq war is “illegal”? I see that repeated, mantra-like, on left-wing nutcase websites, but I’ve never seen an intelligent defense of the claim.

  • 34 anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    #30 Democrats against Cafero - Lets start with you Yap all you want - Larry will get elected again & again. Most people DO NOT agree with your issues, hence lame-o, Larry is elected over your pathetic Democratic wanna-be’s. And while your talking about “bacon Bits” why aren’t you talking about Duff & Perone???? HELLO!!!! These guys fall into whatever line your ridiculous party tells them to, if they ever want the big party dems to support them that is. So even with THEIR PARTY MAJORITY (yes, #31, I HAVE TO USE BIG CAPS so it might penatrate that thick skull of yours.) THEY DON’T PRODUCE - AND IT’s THEIR PARTY IN CONTROL!!!
    #32 - Misplaced Priorities you say, I don’t believe in A “failed Iraq War” although that’s all you libs say over & over. Freeing a country from a tyrant is not a failure. Mass graves of multiple of thousands is OK? During WW II, the concentration camp of Jews would be considered enough to go to war to eliminate the Nazis,. Even now people, ESPECIALLY the libs, are crying about freeing Dafur, yet these people couldn’t care less about the Iraqis people who have been tourtured, killed, etc. Insurgents in Iraq are emboldened by sheepish cries from people like you who give them hope to prevail over freedom. I have had friends & Relatives who served, and some still do, that don’t say the stupid things you and your ilk keep saying in the media. You all yap about the military not having the proper equipment when this war started, well thank that idiot Clinton for “disarming ” our military., and now these same weasels do not want to fund the war. Heres some more “caps” for you #31, DON’T GIVE ME THAT B.S. LINE - “I SUPPORT THE TROOPS, BUT NOT THE WAR” that’s the biggest crock of crap I ever heard. The troops KNOW who are supporting them and it’s NOT you and Your Democrapic party.. and by the way the terroists thank you for your support.

  • 35 Concerned Citizen // May 8, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    #26 Off My Meds??? Sick Mind?? Talk about calling the kettle black! I KNOW the truths idiot. Still drinking the funny kool-aid are you. tell us all, what color is the sky in your world? Your the LAST person who needs to lecture anyone. Do us all a favor, Drop dead already, even is your not red.

  • 36 Anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 2:30 pm

    #34, If you think sending troops to a civil war based on lies is without body armor and a winnable plan is supporting our troops, then it explains why you think your postings are supporting Larry.

  • 37 anon // May 8, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    Right on! Thank you #34 & 35 for telling that ignoramus off. I couldn’t have said it any better.

  • 38 anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    #36 Sitting in the Good ‘ol USA whinning with Harry Reid (Who is a traitor as many of us are concerned) is killing our troops. Emboldening the ememy with poor rhetoric in hopes of political gain is treasonous. I hear from the troops directly and Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi & Shummer ARE NOT the speaking the words of Truth. They are nothing more than political opportunists exploting our soliders for political gain. And as far as Larry goes, he’ll be elected as many time’s as he chooses to run weather you like it or not. So big mouth, why aren’t you telling us about Perrone, Duff or Morris “bringing home the Bacon”?? after all, IT’S THEIR PARTY IN POWER?? Instead you quote what the House Majoriy (a DEM!!) has to say about Larry??? What, No answer?? It figures, another know it all, pompus, blimptious, Dem. Amann should ask his own Norwalk constituants where’s THEIR bacon?? Remember me when Larry wins again & again loser.

  • 39 anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 5:07 pm

    Oh boy is this getting a bit crazy here or what?

    It looks as if mr. dead would have the whole country run by dems and send us all to the poor house. ot sure why you want to blame Larry for what the do nothing dems are up to in hartford. Too bad they won again. There were some really good candidates from the council who were in the the elections last time and seems as if we just let them get away with our stupid all for dems and dems for all in this town. What a shame!

  • 40 Anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 7:42 pm

    #39 If you’re afraid of the poorhouse than you might want to elect dems, since the current crop of republicans have run us all into the poorhouse by putting our nation in debt for decades. Who is the fiscally responsible party? Dems of course.

  • 41 anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 11:25 pm

    #40-you are kidding right?

  • 42 Democrat against Cafero // May 8, 2007 at 11:31 pm

    The Norwalk Dems should make sure Larry “beacon bits” Cafero will lose re-election! The people of the 142nd are on to his jive.

  • 43 anonymous // May 8, 2007 at 11:53 pm

    What the heck are beacon bits? You might want to learn how to spell before you start bringing people down. Do you suggest we call Lex Luther back to Norwalk? I’m sure galen still has that room available that he camped out in during the last elction. Shouldn’t people that run for office at least take up residency?

  • 44 anonymous // May 9, 2007 at 12:07 am

    Isn’t Lex the CarpetBagger Paulsen still in Europe ?

    How will he run again when he does not even have a residence in the city.

  • 45 anonymous // May 9, 2007 at 12:13 am

    Hey, he ran last time and didn’t live here. Looks like the local dems will take any measure they can to win an election. Sorry guys, LARRY WON! So leave ‘ol Lexy where he is and try playing nice to the locals if you want a viable candidate. I don’t see that happening because Larry will win again and there isn’t a whole lot you can do about it!

  • 46 Democrat against Cafero // May 9, 2007 at 6:57 am

    Last year, that race proved that Cafero is very weak. Lex Paulson was in town for a very short time and came within a few hundred votes. Next year, Mr. Cafero will face the toughest re-election in his long right wing political career.

    Mr. Cafero’s seat has been targeted by democrats. It is time for new leadership.

    Larry wears two faces- in the district he is Mr. Norwalk (Nice Man) in Hartford he votes like a right- wing republican.

    The people of Norwalk are tired- of Cafero’s failed leadership.

    Hey Larry, your the minority leader “show us the money”.

    Please, join the grassroots movement- to dump Cafero.

  • 47 concerned citizen // May 9, 2007 at 8:14 am

    What doesn’t #46 understand? Join the “Grassroots Movement”?? The only grass here is the stuff your smoking and the the only movement is the bowel movement your posting is causing me. Hey Mr. “Show me the money”, Why don’t you Go ask Duff, Perrone & Morris where the money is Brainiac?? For every dollar we Norwalkers send to Hartford, this band of Idiots only get 10 CENTS of it back to Norwalk!! In case your weren’t aware(and obviously, YOUR NOT!), the DEOMOCRAPIC party is in charge in Hartford and THEY decide where “the Money goes” brainless. So I keep asking the same question of you but you keep regurgatating the same politically partisan vomit. Why doesn’t DUFF, PERRONE & MORRIS bring home the beacon, uhh bacon bits??? It’s THEIR party who’s dedides where the money goes. SO ANSWER THE QUESTION ALREADY. And when you have these crazy wild grandiose vissions of Larry being defeated by one of your loser dem ilk, do yourself a favor, and pinch yourself and WAKE THE HELL UP!

  • 48 Democrat against Cafero // May 9, 2007 at 11:14 am

    “The Show Us the Money Tour” we be traveling around the 142nd and we plan to make a few trips to Hartford to ask the speaker and majority leader “where is our fair share?”

    As taxpayers- we are tired of Mr. Cafero passing the buck.

    Concern Citizen: Larry Cafero is in his 13th year- and the speaker of the house (Amann)- has called him out. It is the same republican- b.s. Democrats control the house and decide where the money goes.

    Larry Cafero leads a caucus of 44 republicans and has a open door policy with Jodi Rell and that other guy from stamford. Mr. Cafero lied to the voters- he has not produced.

    During the election cycle - he told voters that being republican leader would lead to more money. The end of the session is near and guess what- Norwalk ECS-has not changed.

    Name one thing that Larry Cafero has produced in 13 years of being the poster child for right- wing policies.

    Mr. Cafero “SHOW US THE MONEY” or resign.

  • 49 Voter Against Incumbents // May 9, 2007 at 11:29 am

    Well Democrat against Cafero, it’s a little early to be raking Larry over the coals, but if it’s all about “SHOW US THE MONEY” then you might as well add Chris Perone, Bob Duff and Bruce Morris to the dustbin. None of those incumbents has shown up with any more money for Norwalk. And the grand daddy of them all is enjoying poliitcal retirement while Bob Genurario continues to look out for Norwalk. Effective legislators are needed in Norwalk. And I’d back any one who can do more than send out a press release full of empty promises, Bob Duff I’m looking at you.

  • 50 Concerned Citizen // May 9, 2007 at 12:01 pm

    Hey #48 - SHOW ME THE ANSWER - Yet Again you don’t answer the question - What bacon has Duff, Perone Morris shown us???? All I keep hearing is your broken record about Larry. Go on whatever tour you want, I’ll be the one publicly yelling at you about the 3 stooges I mentioned who haven’t done SQUAT for us. IT’s THEIR PARTY LEADERS - I can understand them stubbinmg Larry, but their own dems Duff, Perrone, Morris?? (silence…..still waiting..)

    Oh, is this your answer #48?…(I quote you)

    “Concern Citizen: Larry Cafero is in his 13th year- and the speaker of the house (Amann)- has called him out.” (IMAGINE THAT, A DEMOCRAT CALLING OUT A REBUBLICAN, HOLD THE PRESSES) “It is the same republican- b.s. Democrats control the house and decide where the money goes.”
    Your kidding right?? A DUH, well Yeah…Dem’s DO CONTROL THE HOUSE and THEY DO DECIDE WHERE THE MONEY GOES. Really…No B.S. That’s the way it works Einstein.

    I will enjoy tormenting you with facts this election. I will be following libs like you and exposing you for the lying fools you are. We did it to that weasel Diane Ferret, ah uh Farrel and we will do it to whoever you can find the next go around.

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