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Norwalk: The Pagano Investigation (sort of)


by turfgrrl


May 1st, 2007 · 37 Comments

I was really looking forward to the special meeting of the ordinance committee that was going to get to the bottom of the Pagano Seafood porn incident. Overall I was disappointed and pleased. I was disappointed because the series of questions that I had about the incident weren’t answered. This has to do with the fact that David Watts, Pam Stark and Alex Knopp did not show up to answer questions. Alex Knopp did send a statement, which was read, and which I posted at the bottom of this post.

Those questions pertain to why the Police did not interview “Todd.” There are a couple of answers to that. Either they felt that the incident didn’t happen as it was recounted. Or that they backed off for some unknown reason.

For whatever reason there is much angst, on the part of Galen Wells and Alex Knopp that this is some sort of political “witch hunt”. Knopp went as far as saying the hearing, which he was not attending, was some sort of Duke Lacrosse prosecution. I guess he’s saying that he thinks the whole incident was made up. Another class act there Alex.

Galen, maybe caught between carrying Alex’s water and acting as the attorney for Paganos’, delivered a statement. That statement said that Pagano’s fired the employee and did not know anything else. Well somehow the details weren’t listed.

Who was the employeee? how long did the employee work at Pagano’s? When was the employee fired? Did Pagano’s do an investigation to confirm the allegation?

I was pleased that the hearing overall methodically went through the details of what happened and who knew of what when. At least it did so after Mike Coffey and Matt Miklave went through a testy exchange prompting Coffey to threaten to throw Miklave out because Miklave wanted to make a point of order about some procedure of the meeting. The point of order was over the agenda and whether Coffey could just begin with the questioning or have to hold the public hearing first. That of course led to a showdown over Mason’s Rules, with Coffey suggesting angrily that Miklave go get his copy and show Coffey where it said he had to open with the public hearing. I think they could both use a turn or two at rock ‘em sock ‘em robots before each meeting to get that attorney testosterone out their systems before subjecting the rest of us to these displays. But it’s just as likely that Miklave wasn’t trying to be a nit picker for the rules but was trying to derail the questioning since the political pressure being routed through the usual Democratic suspects was running high. Alex and Galen really don’t want the truth to come out, so they worked the phones, essentially.

So what did we learn? We learned that according to Darlene Young, and contrary to Alex Knopp’s statement and his statement in the newspaper, that there was no ban, there was no documentation left following the incident of the summer of 2005. Alex Knopp lied. Or maybe he does think there’s this documentation, but its clear form Darlene Young that it is missing. It would have been helpful if he could have provided details of this great documentation. And here’s where the meeting turned to what will prove to be the lasting legacy of the incident. Darlene and James Haselkamp from personnel both expressed that better communication, more formalized guidelines would help make the program operate better.

Carvin Hilliard and Rick McQuaid were very concerned that the investigation and suggestions that were coming out of the discussion would lead to businesses being scared off from participating in the Summer jobs programs. I think that they were reacting to rhetoric being thrown around over the lawyerly tit for tat over the DCF filing and mandatory reporting. There was some concerns about the background checks being required of employers participating, but I suspect that those issues were brought up because so many details about the incident have not been answered. Which again comes back into why no one wants to come forward with the details of what actually transpired at Pagano’s that week in July of 2005.

Rick McQuaid was also very insulted by the political attack sent by Knopp. You’ll have to read the full statement below, but it was insulting to all the Common Council members.

So while the full Alex Knopp statement went through his self praise for such a wonderful job he did, here’s some excerpts:

Within seconds of being told, I instructed the staff to inform Chief Rilling and the Norwalk Police Department about the incident so they could conduct an investigation. I also gave directions that no further participants were to be sent by the program to that employer

Seconds? Well I talked to David Watts and they waited to contact the Police the next day. David Watts, and not Darlene Young was running the Summer Youth Jobs Program that July of 2005. And it was Pam Stark who made the call according to the Police report, not David Watts, who admitted that it was he who wrote the original incident report.

These two instructions were carried out. There was no delay or hesitation on my part in ordering that the Police be informed. I acted quickly both to protect the young man and to safeguard the summer jobs program from political attack. I had no further direct involvement with the matter.

Ok so Knopp is saying it was someone else who called up the Wells’ to say that there was a problem at Pagano’s and that the porn was shown to the child on a computer. No one has explained how the computer got to the Wells’ or when it got there. Why this is such a big secret is beyond me. It’s such a simple thing to say the truth now, if this has been thoroughly investigated. But I digress. He also said that he was immediately worried that the summer youth program would be under political attack. For what? Doing the right thing by reporting the incident? Why would politics be in play at all?

Here’s what Knopp had to say about the incident report:

When informed about this incident, I responded swiftly and properly. A written incident report was filed and a police investigation was done. These documents have been released to the press and the public.

Well yes they have, but not because anyone wanted to release them. Darlene Young testified that there was no document banning Pagano’s from participating in the summer youth jobs program. There was no report filed that documented the incident. There was no documentation what so ever. When I spoke to David Watt’s on the subject, he suggested that the document was in his personal files that he had left behind. So from the ordinance committee’s perspective, there was this big glaring hole of lack of documentation that seems to have slipped by the political prism of Knopp.

I’d like to point out that Matt Miklave read Knopp’s statement after all the questioning was done. It’s important to know that because of the tone of the end part of the statement.

I recently accepted an invitation to appear before a Council entity that was improperly and illegally set up to investigate the Fire Department in the hope that a thoughtful and rational discussion could be held nonetheless. I was wrong. All notions of fair play were thrown out the window by certain members of that “committee.” I was treated in a rude, unprofessional, uncivil, and discourteous manner–both as a citizen and as a former mayor. It was an appalling display of the tactics of the Duke Lacrosse prosecutor combined with a Karl Rove-type political agenda designed to destroy political opponents.

So Knopp is basically saying that the Common Council can’t hold investigations, dismisses the work of its committees and thinks everything is about political attacks on himself. Apparently Alex Knopp thinks Common Council members should never ask him anything because as his statement said, he never makes mistakes, documents everything and does a wonderful job. Riiiggghhhttt.

You would think if everything Knopp did was true that he’d be just as outraged that Darlene Young called Pagano’s in the spring of 2006 to see if she could place kids there. He’d be outraged that his order to file a report in the Summer Jobs Program files wasn’t carried out. He’d be outraged that there wasn’t a uniform procedure to handle an incident such as this, so that the city, the kids, the businesses who participated all could operate with reasonable expectations. And most importantly he’d be outraged enough to find out if “Todd” hooked up with another company participating in the Summer Youth program.

The rest of the ordinance hearing concerned changes to whether the utility companies can will nilly dig up streets without checking with DPW. Mr. Hiscox (sp?) was against it. Hal Alvord was for it. The committee seemed to want to kick it back to corporation counsel. Alvord stated that repaving roads, just from a maintenance standpoint costs $5 million a year. Which we know does not get put into the budget. My take is that Alvord is right, there needs to be controls on when and where utilities can dig up streets, they should be bonded more, and they should required to leave the roads to the quality they were before. After several months you would think that this ordinance would get voted on, but no the pace of government moves at glacial speeds. And that’s why 22 months after the Pagano incident, we are still talking about it.

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37 Responses so far “Norwalk: The Pagano Investigation (sort of)”


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  • 1 anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 8:11 am

    I’m not surprised by Alex’s statement. The only reason this incident was buried was because he thought it would make him look bad. His own words make him look bad. Now once again it’s his word against a young black womans. I believe Ms. Young.

  • 2 concerned citizen // May 1, 2007 at 8:26 am

    Knopp & the Wells remind me of Sargent Shultz from the old TV show, “Hogan’s Hero’s” - “I know NOTHING!” and they’re just as bumbling as well. Thank you Turf Girl for your minutes of the meeting. It’s true, there’s more questions now than before that still need to be answered. Alex & Galen apparently are pleading the fifth. Apparently they think we’ve all been drinking a “fifth” of vodka or something, to believe their spin. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ALEX AND STOP WITH THE “POOR ME” NONSENCE. What brazen hubris you have to compare this to the Duke playes or even Karl Rove.
    You dopey Dems should stop with the Karl Rove Attaks and look at yourselves, but I Digress….LOOK AT YOUR SELF ALEX and try to do it in another mirror that you don’t have to ask “mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest mayor of all” Apparently your mirror is lyin’ to you.

  • 3 Anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 9:15 am

    As Mayor and Police Commissioner Knopp should have made the police report this incident to DCF. That would be in keeping with the law. And Rilling knows his department dropped the ball. Did he get direction from the Mayor? Knopp’s excuses are lame.

  • 4 Anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 9:48 am

    Some of these folks who say this was not to be investigated must not pay too much attention to the people involved. You haters just hate Mike Coffey, simply put……..If you think about it, Coffey is putting his self out there to make the summer program safer Galen and Alex say nothing happened, and then say it happened but we took care of it ……and we all know how that turned outed. I’m mindboggle how people say this all about going after Alex Knopp. you don’t hear anything about that when Coffey is asking questions…..hmmmmm interesting. I hope that the Police come out and say why they didn’t talk to Todd.

  • 5 Watchingandlistening // May 1, 2007 at 11:05 am

    For your information, the Budget Committee of the BOE is meeting on Wednesday, May 2 at 7:30 PM in room 335. Is anyone aware of this? Now is the time for everyone to really find out what’s going on.

  • 6 Anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    Galen Wells and Alex Knopp are typical democrats who spew much verbal diarrhea.

  • 7 dem4life // May 1, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    No they are not typical democrats. They are just petty and stupid. If they can sink the party with them, they’ll do it. There’s not a single person they haven’t bad mouthed at one time. They are just old fat meanies.

  • 8 TiredofWatchingtheDemsDie // May 1, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    Galen Wells has a reputation for major, loud confrontations with all kinds of people, but particularly with people she thinks “work for her”. You could call it abuse of power.

    You all know who you are…those who have taken one of her tongue-lashings. Undignified and unprofessional…some leader! Alex chose her and now the Dems pay the price. A sad demise of a good party. But most Dems remain silent and tolerate this behavior. When will it end?

  • 9 indiga // May 1, 2007 at 2:30 pm

    There, there. You all just get it out of your systems. Don’t you realize that the Deomcrats have stopped taking this site seriously?

  • 10 Madashell // May 1, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    Verbal diarrhea, old fat meanies, lions and tigers and bears, oh my! The intellectual discourse on this site just gets better every day!

  • 11 Newcomer // May 1, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    this appears to be site for smearing and bad-mouthing Dems. It’s odd that no one writes about the Rebublican Town committee or cover their meetings. Or maybe they have gone back to having secret meetings like in the past.It seems like you need a secret hadshake or Italian heritage to get anywhere with the Norwalk Republicans.

  • 12 Anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    There are probably more dems who read this blog than repubs. Republicans tend to run away from sunlight and truth.

  • 13 Norwalker // May 1, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    I believe TG covered the last Republican Town Committee.

  • 14 turfgrrl // May 1, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    I may be somewhat of an idealist, but I’d prefer both political parties to be strong and vibrant and get people excited about government. I cover as much as I can of both parties.

    For example, this weekend (May 5th) Democrats throughout the state are holding special eents to get out the Democratic message. It’s a cool thing to do. Of course, if you are a Norwalk Dem, you wouldn’t know about it because, well, I’d be accused of bashing your chair when I’d just be making a factual but snarky observation.

    So here’s what your state chair said:

    On May 5, 2007, Connecticut is participating in the first leg of the 50 State Canvass of 2007. Several other states are holding statewide canvasses on April 28th, but due to our annual Jefferson-Jackson-Bailey Dinner on April 20th, we decided it would be better to hold it the first weekend of May.

    In 2006, Democrats across the country celebrated many victories and in 2007 we are not resting. With goals of registering even more Democrats, several lit drops are being organized to inform our neighbors about the progress already made by the Democratic majority in Congress, and more importantly, our agenda for 2007

    Now is the time to start talking with your neighbors and continue the work we have done over the past two years. National Party Chairman Howard Dean has worked tirelessly on the 50 State Turnout and many credit him with much of the Democratic success this past year. With your support, we can carry on with Chairman Dean’s work and take back the White House and increase our majorities in Congress. To do that we must organize our communities earlier than ever.

    Let us work together. Meet new people. Register new voters. Last fall, Connecticut registered about 30,000 new Democrats~ many people think this is a quiet time for political activity but there are many things that need to be done before 2008.

    If you cannot commit to organizing a canvass, sign up to attend an event in your area. To get more information on the canvass or to sign up, please contact Tyrone McClain (tmcclain@ctdems.org) or Moriah Moriarty (mmoriarty@ctdems.org) at 860-560-1775. Let’s continue to lay the foundation for more Democratic victories in 2008!

    But hey, if you want to see where Norwalk Democrats are really heading, just look up the line to Branford, where another blog, the New Haven Independent has been chronicling the Branford Democrat in-fighting. There’s lots of Norwalk connections there, Bruce Morris’ parents are at the heart of all the distrust in government in Branford, and are about to leave the Democratic party. A tid bit:

    Unlike the Republican Party which is unified, the Democratic Party is split between those who support Mrs. Morris and those who do not. It has been this way ever since Mrs. Morris refused to fire Marcus last year.

    “You have to earn the respect of the people,” DaRos said. “They certainly have squandered anything they had going for them, and unfortunately they have dragged a lot of people down with them. They are dragging down the Democratic Party as well and after they do that they will attempt to abandon ship,” Da Ros told the Eagle in commenting on both Mrs. Morris’s and Mr. Morris’s role in the DTC.

    One thing is clear. both Opie and DaRos will run a campaign that is antithetical to Bruce Morris’s view of politics.

  • 15 Joanne Romano (Council) // May 1, 2007 at 5:19 pm

    To newcomer and anonymous #12
    Turf has indeed covered the Republican town committee meetings and has posted them on this site. I do take offense at the Italian reference that was made. I for one am very proud of my Italian heritage and find it rather disturbing that one would make such an observation. Perhaps you should stop by one of our Republican meetings and you would be quite surprised at the makeup. Our members consist of Italians, Spanish, African Americans, Irish, and I think just about every other race one can think of. and do not tend to run away from sunlight and truth. We prefer to run our meetings in a civil manor and if we disagree we talk about it and rectify the situation. I come from a family where my father and ancestors were historically Democrats but I chose a different path because I was not impressed with the antics and ideas of the democratic party. I don’t consider myself a right wing Republican either. I prefer to look at myself as a moderate who looks at the issues, not the party. It grates on my nerves when someone feels the need to bring nationalities into politics. The republican party does not look at your heritage or the color of your skin when we welcome you into the fold. Its a shame that you made such an off color remark.

  • 16 anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    Really well said Joanne! I’m a Republican of Italian heritage as well but I didn’t take offense at that Italian comment because Italians have done so well in the US, especially in CT, I think it’s just jealousy!

  • 17 anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 5:41 pm

    Hey Newcomer..I see Italians on BOTH sides of the Isle because THEY can think for themselves unlike the African-Americans who blindly follow who ever they’re told to.

  • 18 anon // May 1, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    Didn’t TG just rip into Republican Governor Jodi Rell over the DOT problems? TG seems to be an equal opportunity critic. Some people may just offer up more targets than others.

  • 19 Anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    Joanne,

    I am glad you’re on the council!

    30 year Republican who thinks for himself

  • 20 hitcow // May 1, 2007 at 5:51 pm

    If you do not like Galen Wells, don’t vote for her again. If you don’t have the votes to elect someone else, then deal with it. It is how the party works.

    No reasons to behave like a republican, and try to change the results because you do not like the outcome of election. dems are better then that.

    Remember republicans are the enemy to anyone who isn’t white and straight. Do not give them power, by acting like them.

  • 21 marital woes // May 1, 2007 at 5:55 pm

    And most African Amercians could have figured out that it was “aisle” not “isle”. Unless you meant on either side of Hawaii.

  • 22 indythinker // May 1, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    #20, you are so ignorant it is pitiful. Ignorant of what people believe in and ignorant as to how to conduct yourself when posting stupid inuendo’s. Sorry Turf, but whomever that is just needs a reality check!

  • 23 Needleandthreat // May 1, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Welcome back, marital woes. Sure would like to see some documents from those Nash Engineering days, wink wink…

  • 24 anon // May 1, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    The real problem in the Norwalk Democratic party is that being chair is a thankless job. No one wants to do it. Most new Democrats come to town, check out the players and drift away. Do any of the young dems have any leadership roles? Ever? Do any of the old members of the party do anything for the city? For the party?

  • 25 Jen // May 1, 2007 at 6:22 pm

    Anon 24- Things could be changing- hopefully Galen Wells would encourage younger members to take leadership roles in the process.

  • 26 hitcow // May 1, 2007 at 7:18 pm

    Ignorant no. Watching the sillyness of attacking Town Chairs and reminding people that republicans are the enemy of all thinking people.

    A town chair for the dems or republicans have no power. They attempt to get people in their party elected. It is their only purpose.

    You need to watch the people who hold city office. How is the republican mayer going to screw with the poor or gay people this week. Its what they do after all.

  • 27 Anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 7:22 pm

    Jen you must be kidding. Galen doesn’t want young people to take leadership roles, she wants to get people to stop criticizing her and thinks she’s some sort of political guru capable of influencing policy.

  • 28 anony // May 1, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    No 26, you got it all wrong. Bruce Morris says if you’re gay and poor you can go Cheney yourself, because he doesn’t want you to get married or get a fair deal. He’s got payoffs to collect afer all.

  • 29 indythinker // May 1, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    What the heck is this supposed to mean?
    “You need to watch the people who hold city office. How is the republican mayer going to screw with the poor or gay people this week. Its what they do after all.”
    Apparently hitcow has a grudge against republicans. Perhaps you need a reality check.

  • 30 Anonymous // May 1, 2007 at 10:11 pm

    Phew, and I thought Alex would try and act less like a jerk and try to show what being a civic leader is all about. Mayor Moccia you earned my vote. The dems have lost my independent interest.

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