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Norwalk: Where Is “Todd”? Pagano Porn Investigation Should Ask


by turfgrrl


April 29th, 2007 · 47 Comments

Monday night, the Common Council’s Ordinance Committee starts an investigation into how the city handled the incident through the summer of 2005. Galen Wells and Alex Knopp, predictably think the investigation is all about them. Ah well, if you think the world revolves around you, I suppose that makes sense.

But the incident was never really about Wells, or Knopp ,but rather what “Todd” did to the boy, and how the city failed to protect its more vulnerable citizens. You see, its pretty reprehensible to be thinking about how, as Wells said to Max Breslow of the Norwalk Advocate, that her family will be embarrassed. Doesn’t Wells think that maybe its the boy who might have been embarrassed?

As for Alex Knopp, who says that he barred Pagano’s from being assigned to Pagano’s after this incident, Knopp thinks he made no mistakes. People who think they don’t make mistakes can’t learn from them and thus make better decisions in the future. And this belief, in learning from mistakes, is at the heart of the investigation.

In 2005, the way in which the summer youth programs was handled was riddled with questionable decisions. Darlene Young, who Wells now thinks is a capable manager of the summer youth jobs program, was removed from that position in 2005. The program was run out of the mayor’s office by David Watts.

For the 2006 Summer Youth Program, Darlene Young was returned to the position, and apparently made a phone call to Pagano’s to check if they were still participating in the program. Now Alex Knopp just said to the Advocate that that couldn’t have happened because “he barred” Pagano’s from the program. Strangely, Wells also has come up with the statement to the Advocate that Young was told about the incident.
And why would Knopp have “barred” Pagano’s unless he conducted some investigation himself, that concluded that Pagano’s fostered a negative environment for youth? The incident was not about Pagano’s operation, it was about one guy, “Todd”, who had a peculiar interest in porn and showing it to children.

Chief Rilling is still clinging to his “the mother didn’t want a complaint filed” excuse. Somehow he missed the training class that says when children are involved, a reporting agency is enough to send out the investigators. And the investigators that should have been sent out should have gone after “Todd.” From the Advocate:

Knopp said he ensured police were notified about the 2005 incident as soon as he found out about it.

Chief Harry Rilling last week said police could not complete an investigation because the boy’s mother did not want to file a complaint.

Coffey, a Democrat who is at odds with Knopp and Wells, said he placed the Ordinance Committee investigation on the panel’s agenda for the meeting at 8 p.m. tomorrow at City Hall. The probe is not a political stunt, Coffey said.

He said the city also likely needs an internal guideline stating that if anything similar to the 2005 incident occurs, it must be reported to the state Department of Children and Families. He said he believes Knopp’s office was required by law, as a “mandatory reporter,” to inform the DCF of the incident.

I continue to find it strange that the Police never bothered to interview “Todd” to at least get a statement from him of whether he denied or admitted to the incident. Apparently Pagano’s determined that he must have done something, because according to Wells, “Todd” was fired.

For all we know, “Todd” is now gainfully employed at some other Norwalk business, that may be participating in the Summer Youth Program. And this is the predicament that we all should be a little more mindful of.

“It appears that an incident report was never filed with . . . the state DCF within 48 hours, as required by state statute,” Coffey said.

In addition to ensuring that the incident was reported to police, Knopp said he barred job program participants from being assigned to Pagano’s. The police report about the incident proves no one tried to hide anything, Knopp said.

“This is a transparent, political, phony investigation to discredit the Democratic Town Committee chairwoman and has no conceivable link to any attempt to fashion an ordinance, two years after the events,” Knopp said, also calling the probe an effort “to try to injure me as collateral damage.”

Wells called the Ordinance Committee investigation needless. She said it appears to be an attempt to embarrass her family, and she expressed concern the probe could hurt participation in the summer job program.

So it will be interesting to see which versions of Galen Wells and Alex Knopp show up to the hearing on Monday night. Will they provide enough details so that the committee can understand what happened that week in July of 2005, or will they continue to stonewall and deny that any mistakes were made?

I hope that they stop thinking like rube lawyers, and start thinking like concerned parents. Improving how incidents such as this one are handled is paramount. Determining if “Todd” is a sexual predator is still just as relevant today as it was in 2005. It’s just a shame that a series of steps were taken that did not lead to answering that question about Todd in 2005.

source: Norwalk Advocate, Councilman wants probe into ‘05 incident, , April 29 2007

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47 Responses so far “Norwalk: Where Is “Todd”? Pagano Porn Investigation Should Ask”


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  • 1 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 9:49 am

    It’s about time that someone is investigating this. Why do Galen and Alex think they are above the law? If it was their kid who was complaining about the porn, they would act all high and mighty over it.

  • 2 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 10:26 am

    Ummm…TG, you are being a bit disingenuous here. You and this site hammered on the Knopp/Wells connection. Stir the pot, if you like, but don’t try to duck responsibility. Most of us are smart enough to see this as the political fol-de-rol it really is. I am so sick of people claimng to be interested in children’s welfare or ethics or eminent domain, when all they are really interested in is a political agenda. Opportunists like that give true public servants a bad name…

  • 3 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    TG: You’re really asking “will they continue to stonewall”? Seriously?

    There’s simply no indication that the Wells or the former Mayor covered anything up. Immediately involving the Police Department hardly seems like an effort to hide the issue. A business owner firing the employee implicated in this incident seems like a very logical course of action. And respect for the wishes of a parent by the PD seems reasonable too.

    The “real” press has been covering this story on and off for a while now. Yet no scandalous details have emerged - none. So where is the stonewalling?

    The Ordinance Committee is hardly an appropriate forum if Mr. Coffey believes that there’s stonewalling. If the DCF should have investigated the incident then, why not ask them (or some other appropriate agency) to investigate now.

    The story you should be covering is an attempt at muckraking, not a pattern of stonewalling.

  • 4 turfgrrl // Apr 29, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    anonymous #2: Why not be accurate in what my questions about this have been?

    How does Stark know to call Stuart Wells about the computer? Why isn’t “Todd” questioned? Why does the Police call Stuart Wells?

    Was there a meeting between any public official and the mother over whether to file a police report or not?
    link

    Or how about this earlier statement:

    The Norwalk incident has many of the same elements. A computer. Some Porn. A 14 year old child. But whereas the Norwich police department immediately questioned Julie Amero, it seems, after a read of the Hour story, that the Norwalk Police Department never get around to questioning “Todd”. link

    So let’s not forget the more nationally known case, of Julie Amero, that spawned my interest in this case.

    If there’s any disingenuousness going on, it’s that certain people keep trying to make everything a political issue instead of just doing the right thing from the start. There are still open questions about the incident both from the procedures that were followed and by the documentation that was not. If everything was done correctly, if every procedure was documented correctly, then what is the big deal? Airing how well an incident was handled would be a shining example of how well run the Knopp administration was, wouldn’t it be? No one should be afraid of a little sunlight.

  • 5 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    Concerning the above statemant#2 :
    Why don’t you give this statement at Monday’s meeting Mr. Knopp, instead of here?

    I don’t like to name call, but ARE YOU A LOON #2?
    you probably aren’t a parent, or even a person with scruples so YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND the importance of this matter. Shoot, I might be my kid working alongside “todd” this summer.

  • 6 turfgrrl // Apr 29, 2007 at 12:56 pm

    anonymous #3: Galen Wells and Alex Knopp have always had an opportunity to publicly disclose the incident and what procedures were followed over the last 22 months. They have chosen not to. Some would call that a cover up.
  • 7 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 1:24 pm

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  • 8 anon // Apr 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    Ok, I have to weigh in on this one. Why is it always that no matter what happens, the people questioned about an incident get on their high horse and cry indignant? Come on Alex, no one is accusing you of any wrong doing, all people want to know is what happened on your watch? Politicians no matter what side they are on are always so defensive when it comes to getting to the root of a situation. Hey guys and gals, you chose this profession, you are accountable for the actions taken while you are part of the equation. Whe it comes to endangering a youth everyone is accountable. Just think, this guy Todd is probably out there somewhere creeping up on another minor and will soon be inflicting this same harmful behaviour on them. This is not a republican or democrat problem. This is a community problem.

  • 9 Robert F // Apr 29, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    “Ummm…TG, you are being a bit disingenuous here….

    Opportunists like that give true public servants a bad name…”

    True public servants give themselves a bad name when they cross the line and act on in their own self interest or try to cover up or dismiss mistakes they made.

    No, it’s people like you, appropriately assigned #2 in this thread, hiding under the name of anonymity, further missing the point and denying anything was mishandled.

    Again, when was the DCF informed of the incident, as required by law? If I understand this case correctly, the DCF was not informed as required by law.

    But go ahead and refuse to get over yourself and your misunderstanding of what happened and why it’s a story still getting press coverage and earning an entry on this site.

  • 10 Robert F // Apr 29, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    Dear #3

    “If the DCF should have investigated the incident then, why not ask them (or some other appropriate agency) to investigate now.”

    ““It appears that an incident report was never filed with . . . the state DCF within 48 hours, as required by state statute,” Coffey said.”

    It appears reading comprehension is not your forte.

    But go on, blame a writer interested creating debate for what you don’t understand.

  • 11 Sam I am // Apr 29, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    The good Rev. Dave Watts should talk about his role in the Yale Skull and Bones.

  • 12 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    Can someone explain this organization and what they do? It has been alluded to several times on this site and unless you are a Yaley I don’t think many know what it is.

  • 13 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    If it weren’t for Turffie we’d still be getting the same old non reporting of our meetings. So Turffie wants to dig into this incident. Personally, I hope that there is nothing here but miscommunication. But in the event that there was some political pressure put on the mother and the police to make this issue go away, then we need to change how this program was managed.

    The only way to determine that is for all the details to come out. And we can all thank Turffie for digging out those details. None of the local papers bothered to get them. I’ll reserve judgement on Turffie’s coverage of this after tomorrow’s hearing. Turffie has asked many questions and suggested several theories. Only the facts will answer all of our questions.

  • 14 Sam I am // Apr 29, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    Skull and Bones is a secret elite group of Yalies. Their membership includes George W. Bush and John F. Kerry. Skull and Bones is the most powerful group in the world.

  • 15 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    Remember Tawana Brawley? Apparently, Mike COffey is aiming to be Norwalk’s own Al Sharpton.

  • 16 Anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    So 15 you know that the boy and mother are lying? How are you related to the Wells?

  • 17 anon // Apr 29, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    #15-get over yourself, As one of Galen & Alex’s lackys
    you constantly say really dumb things! There is a real problem here and it has been brought to the attention of the public by one of your own and now the public has a right to answers and the right to know that their children in the future, will not be subjected to this type of filth. If you have no problem with what occured, perhaps you should find out where Todd is and hire him to babysit your kids!

  • 18 AnonymousAgain // Apr 29, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    #15m that’s a low blow and should only be aimed at the likes of all those Lamont backers. Sharpton was their knight who rode into CT to save his campaign, Hah!

  • 19 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    #13 Turfy doesn’t like Alex or Galen. She doesn’t want the facts coming out, she wants to dig up dirt and smear them.

  • 20 puzzled // Apr 29, 2007 at 7:22 pm

    # 19, it seems that Turffie is asking for the facts to come out. You might want to read what Turffie writes before making accusations. All this blame the messenger is getting old here. Why aren’t the Wells being straightforward with fellow Dems, as well as the rest of the public?

  • 21 anon // Apr 29, 2007 at 7:43 pm

    The Knopp administration was no shining example. That is why they don’t want the truth to come out. Keep up the good reporting Turfgrrl.

  • 22 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 7:59 pm

    some people wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them on the butt! There was wrong doing and things were not handled properly and we as parents want to be assured that our kids are safe from this type of exposure when they are away from home. So, with that said, each and everyone of you who wish to defend theactions of those involved need to go away quietly and allow the facts to be presented and the proper procedures for this type of problems be put into place. The rethics committee is doing the right thing by reviewing this and hopefully putting in place proper protocol that will be adhered to in the future.

  • 23 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 8:50 pm

    Wouldn’t the proper procedure be to take it out of the political realm and allow professionals who deal wtih children’s allegations of sexual abuse to talk to the child and his mother — without all this public circus? I can’t imagine how Coffey thinks this is heldpful…except to his own ambitons. If there is a story to gather from the child, it has become so tainted by publcity and bad procedure that it would be impossible to get facts. Read up on children’s memories and how easy it is to rehsape those memories through inept probing. This was bungled — and continues to be. But it’s by those who are attempting to use the boy for their own agendas. That is truly pornographic.

    Aren’t there any social work, psychology, or psyciatric professionals on this blog who could provide proper procedure in proceeding wth this delicate matter? Coffey’s going to do more damage to that child than the sexy pictures ever could….

  • 24 anon parent // Apr 29, 2007 at 9:02 pm

    I don’t believe this child will be present for this hearing and shouldn’t be. His mother refused to file charges, therefore they should not seek to bring the child into the open. He is now an older teen who probably does not want to be identified at this point in his life and his wishes should be respected. At this point in time this seems to be an ethical situation that needs to be rectified and needs to be coreected. There are so many procedures that were not filed and so many people in the know that did nothing to help the situation. Lets not lose track of the fact that this twas a minor who was exploited and the community needs to know that this and future administrations will have “0″ tolerance for this behavior and the necessary steps will be taken to ensure that these procedures are followed to the letter.

  • 25 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    But without porfessional assessment of the child’s “testimony”, you are simply assuming wrongdoing. Look at the accussation a while back in NYC by an 8 year old girl of “rape” by a janitor. He was hauled in front of cameras only to have professional handling of the case dtermine that there was no worngdoing. That procedure has not — and apparently will not — be follwoed here. So the “case” will be founded on assumptions. Isn’t this the same type of “hearing” that was used to discredit “enemies of the State” in the old Soviet Union? Am I alonw in thinkg something stinks about “ethics investigations” with a political agenda?

  • 26 anon // Apr 29, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    25 there was porn on the computer. Pagano’s fired the employee who allegedly showed it. If there was nothing there, then there would have been no porn on the computer and Pagano’s would have defended the employee.

  • 27 East Norwalk native // Apr 29, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    After looking at the DCF website, it seems that an employer is not a mandated reporter.

    It would be good to review or formalize the proper procedure for handling such a situation, which hopefully will never happen again.

  • 28 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    Why the coverup ? If there was no wrongdoing the people involeved would have been out front along time ago showing they did nothing wrong. Instead these same people are sending out their minions to attack the people now investigating the bungling and mishandling by an incompetent administration.

    Sun sun sun.

  • 29 anonymous // Apr 29, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    the police department is also a mandatory reporter when you read the statute. the mayor controls the police department. maybe it should be looked at to see if the pd ever filed the dcf report. the newspaper and the blog do not mention if the pd did this and someone should look into this.

  • 30 East Norwalk native // Apr 29, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Yes, you are right, the Police Department is a mandatory reporter.

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