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Guest View: A Look At The BET Process


by turfgrrl


April 13th, 2007 · 28 Comments

This is going to be the first in a series of guest posts about issues in Norwalk. yourCT.com is a non-partisan site dedicated to airing all sides of an issue. That can’t happen without valuable contributions from our readers.

BET OP-Ed

By Michael W. Lyons

As a member of the Board of Estimate, a former member of the Common Council, and a parent of three children who are in or have come through our public schools, I know how important our school system is to our city. I’m the former chair of the Marvin School Council, and my wife Elizabeth is now Marvin School PTO Co-President, after serving nine years on the Board of Education. We’ve put in years of volunteer service to the schools; we know them from the inside. We know excellent teachers and other dedicated staff who’ve done a good job educating our children.

But of course, as a Board of Estimate (BET) member my job isn’t limited to looking at the school budget. I and my fellow BET members also have to budget for Police, Fire, DPW, Recreation and Parks, and myriad other departments and grant recipients. And we have to do so under an over-riding guideline – what can our taxpayers afford? To “fully fund” all budget requests (as we are regularly asked to do), would leave this city with 10-12% annual tax increases. Such increases would double our tax burden every 6-8 years. We would in short order have to raise taxes so high that this middle-income city would become unaffordable.

So we have to find a middle ground. We have to set budgets that get the city’s goals accomplished as best we can without creating a crushing tax burden.

I. The School Budget in Context. This article will not address the specifics of our largest 2007 budget component – the school budget – but will rather try to place it in context. We are often told that Norwalk doesn’t support its schools with enough funding, or that there will be “devastating” consequences if the school budget isn’t “fully” funded. So I will address two issues: 1 – Are we underfunding our schools – do we stack up poorly against other towns in our financial support for education? 2 – Are we undertaxed – are we taxing our citizens less than other towns are and thereby short-changing our schools? The facts show that the answers to both these questions are “No”.

II. Are we underfunding our schools?

A. Norwalk (all in) spends 60% of its budget on its schools — up from 43% in 1991. That is an remarkable shift of 17% of the municipal budget away from City services and into the schools.

B. Our per pupil spending (direct) is $12,453 per year. Only Stamford in our DRG (the group of Connecticut cities with comparable demographics to Norwalk’s) is higher (at $13,328). Stamford’s spending, however, is covered by a massive commercial tax base ($18,977 commercial assessed value per capita vs. $8,515 per capita in Norwalk). Per capita school spending in Norwalk is the highest in the DRG ($1,590 vs. Stamford’s $1,552).

C. Norwalk spends $1,704 per pupil more (in direct spending) than the State average.

D. When you factor in the cost of ‘off-budget’ support for the schools in our budget (including debt service), our per pupil spending rises to $13,845 per year. We on the BET have tentatively approved adding $5.2 million to the school budget this year; this will add $486 to per pupil spending ($5.2 million / 10,689 students projected for next year). That would bring us to $12,939 per pupil in direct spending. Indirect spending is about $1,400 per pupil, so the total spent per pupil will rise to at least $14,339 per year. That is not a short-changing of our school system; it is, in fact, one of the very highest spending levels in the entire State of Connecticut.

E. Norwalk continues to spend a good deal more on special education than comparable cities. We spend $20,025 per special ed student per year, compared to $18,326 in Stamford and $16,048 in Danbury. If we spent at the same per pupil rate as Stamford’s we could save $2.13 million per year; if at the same rate as Danbury, we could save $4.98 million per year.

F. Over the last 10 years, spending on the City side of the budget has increased by $16.6 million (a total increase of 22%). During the same period, spending on the schools has increased by $45.6 million, a 50.3% increase (though enrollment in the schools over that period only increased by 3/4 of 1% (from 10,703 to 10,782). Inflation over the same time frame was 27.2%. This means that corrected for inflation, City spending actually dropped by 5.2% in real dollars, and schools spending increased by 28.3% in real dollars (with a 3/4 of 1% enrollment increase).

G. In the peak year of the baby boom bubble (1976), Norwalk’s schools had 15,676 students and 708 teachers (a student/teacher ratio of 22.14). We now have 10,689 students and 866 teachers, a 12.34 student/teacher ratio. That is an astounding reduction of the ratio (a 44% drop). In fact, the student/teacher ratio has dropped 11% just since 2003 (from 13.83 to 12.34)! Admittedly not all of these teachers are “classroom” teachers (may fill support functions); but the fact remains that we have added many more teachers as the student population has dropped.

H. Norwalk spends $1,454 per pupil more than the State average on salaries and benefits for school employees. This is caused in large part by the fact that average teacher salaries in Norwalk ($74,095) are the 3rd highest in the State (after #1 Easton/Redding and #2 Greenwich). Our average pay is $12,163 higher than the State average ($61,932) (i.e., 19.6% higher). We pay substantially higher salaries than Stamford, Danbury, Westport, Wilton, New Canaan or Darien — and 158 other towns and regional districts as well. Norwalk ranks 54th in the State in per capita income, but 3rd in the State in teacher salaries.

I. Norwalk ranks 9th in the State in average pay for our administrators (again, even though we only rank 54th in the State in per capita income). The State average administrator pay is $101,435. Norwalk’s average is $116,163, 14.5% above the State average. While its true that higher salaries are generally found in Fairfield County, we still pay higher than Stamford, Danbury — and even Westport. So while we may be in the average range for number of administrators, we are up near the top in pay for administrators.

Conclusion? Even with “only” the $5.2 million increase in the school budget we are proposing this year, Norwalk’s schools will still be at the very top of the State in total spending, teacher and administrator salaries, and employee benefits. And that’s true even if we don’t factor in the tens of millions of dollars the city is spending on the schools reconstruction projects now under way.

III. Are we undertaxed – are we taxing our citizens less than other towns are and thereby short-changing our schools?

A. Per capita school spending in Norwalk as a percentage of per capita income is higher than Stamford’s (5.0% Norwalk, 4.44% in Stamford). So the direct tax impact of our schools on our taxpayers is already high and growing.

B. Our equalized mil rate of 12.72 is 21% higher than Stamford’s (10.50), and is also much higher than the tax rates in the surrounding towns (Wilton (12.16), Westport (9.21), New Canaan (8.88), and Darien (8.35)). We tax our citizens at a rate 52% higher than Darien’s citizens. Sixty percent (60%) of that tax burden is to pay for schools and debt service for school construction projects.

Conclusion? Norwalk’s taxpayers are already paying much higher taxes than most of our neighboring communities – including communities much wealthier than Norwalk – and the majority of those taxes go to support our schools.

IV. A Final Word

The Board of Estimate is working hard to provide adequate financing to our schools, police, DPW and other departments. We need to fix some terrible problems with flooding of peoples’ homes, and address other important matters. And we need to do it without breaking our taxpayers backs. Hopefully this article will help people to understand that “only” increasing the school budget by $5.2 million this year (as proposed) does NOT mean Norwalk isn’t committed to supporting our schools. We already do so far more generously than most other communities in Connecticut, and will undoubtedly continue to do so. But in a middle-income community like Norwalk, “generous” support cannot mean “unlimited”.

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28 Responses so far “Guest View: A Look At The BET Process”



  • 1 indythinker // Apr 13, 2007 at 5:58 pm

    Thanks for this info Turfy and Mike, now maybe you should take out a full page add in the local papers before Tuesday’s meeting so the Corda scare tactics will sink into his followers brains. parents, you just can’t fight these numbers but you can fight Corda on taking away your kids programs. Perhaps if you spent as much energy on fighting Corda as you do fighting the council, this would be a win win situation for all Norwalker’s.

  • 2 Exposure - the public has no idea // Apr 14, 2007 at 7:56 am

    Where is this proposed budget that requires an incremental $8MM versus last year to keep us even with current services?

    Where can the public actually go and look at it? Has the BOE posted it on their website? If not, why not?

    How do our % of spending fall out? Academic teaching, Other curriculum, admin, sports, extra curricular, admin central, admin local?

    To try to build our scores in academics (we are so below the average) what incremental spending has gone to help build up that weakness?

    Score comparison of the Amistad versus Norwalk:

    8th grade math reading writing
    Total Reg students goal + advanced
    state 2003 56.3 66.7 61.8
    drg H 43.9 55.8 49.4
    Norwalk 38 47.9 53.6
    Amistad tot 75 81 86

    Black students 2003
    state 21.6 37.5 36.8
    drg H 22.5 38.1 33.6
    Norwalk 19 30.8 37
    Amistad tot 64 75 79

    Why do Norwalk taxpayers put up with the current administration with the following results (from wikipedia norwalk, ct education)?? :

    In 2006, all high schools, three of the city’s middle schools and nine of its elementary schools, along with a “community school” were cited as falling behind in standards for the federal “No Child Left Behind” Act. Three elementary schools had not met the standards (which rise year by year) for two years in a row, so students in those schools are offered the choice to go to a Norwalk public school that hasn’t been designated as needing improvement. “Whole school” problems are school-wide, “subgroup” problems reflect groups such as white, black, Hispanic, Asian and American-Indian children; English language learners; students with disabilities; and economically disadvantaged students.[1]

    Norwalk High School — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math
    Brien McMahon High School — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Briggs High School — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “whole school deficiencies in math and reading.”
    West Rocks Middle School — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Roton Middle School — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “whole school deficiencies in math.”
    Ponus Ridge Middle School — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “whole school deficiencies in math.”
    Brookside — For 2006, the school did not meet NCLB criteria two years in a row, so students (within certain parameters) will be offered the choice of going to another school. In the report the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Columbus — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Cranbury — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Fox Run — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Jefferson — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “whole school deficiencies in reading.”
    Kendall — For 2006, the school did not meet NCLB criteria two years in a row, so students (within certain parameters) will be offered the choice of going to another school. In the report the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Marvin — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “whole school deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Naramake — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in reading.”
    Silvermine — For 2006, the school did not meet NCLB criteria two years in a row, so students (within certain parameters) will be offered the choice of going to another school. In the report the school was cited as having “whole school deficiencies in math and reading.”
    Side by Side Community School located in South Norwalk — In the 2006 NCLB report, the school was cited as having “subgroup deficiencies in math.”

  • 3 anonymous // Apr 14, 2007 at 8:02 am

    #2-perhaps you should forward this to the local papers.
    Maybe then the entire town will get a look at it. Everyone else seems to be writing elaborate op ed’s that add up to dumping more money onto an already faultering system. Maybe with some sound facts someone will listen.

  • 4 BOE GOALS- NOT BEING MET // Apr 14, 2007 at 8:03 am

    Norwalk Public Schools BOE published Goals:

    How does the public think they are doing?

    Goal One: INSTRUCTION (NOT MEETING STATE PERFORMANCE LEVELS)
    We will build the Norwalk Public Schools into an exemplary district characterized by a
    cohesive and coordinated academic system with a set of clearly defined performance
    based outcomes for all students. Our work as a learning community will:
    • emphasize mastery of knowledge, strategies and skills;
    • develop in our students the habits of thinking, cooperation, and self-discipline;
    • focus on results;
    • ensure excellence and equity of opportunity
    • value diversity;
    • instill respectfulness and responsibility.

    Goal Two: COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION (PUBLIC LEFT IN DARK -WHERE IS THE BUDGET SO WE CAN REVIEW IT?)
    We will actively seek the input and involvement of staff, parents, students, and the
    community when making the educational decisions necessary to ensure every student’s
    success.

    Goal Three: COMMUNICATION (WEAK- PUBLIC IS IN THE DARK- NO SUCCESSES BASED ON STATE AND FEDERAL MANDATES)
    We shall effectively communicate to the public our plans, progress, and successes for
    the implementation of our goals.

    Goal Four: FINANCE (HOW IS THIS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE? NO FINANCIAL CONTROLS, NO FINANCIAL REVIEW, NO FINANCIAL DIRECTOR- WHO CONTROLS THE SPENDING- JUST CORDA AND HIS COO)
    We will develop annual operating and capital financial plans to implement the
    objectives necessary to achieve our goals and meet our contractual obligations in a
    manner that is fiscally responsible to our community.

    Goal Five: LONG RANGE PLANNING
    We will develop, communicate, and implement long range educational and facilities
    plans based on student needs, program needs, equity and excellence, and fiscal
    responsibility.

  • 5 WOW- What is Amistad doing? // Apr 14, 2007 at 8:10 am

    With scores

    Score comparison of the Amistad versus Norwalk:

    8th grade math reading writing
    Total Reg students goal + advanced
    state 2003 56.3 66.7 61.8
    drg H 43.9 55.8 49.4
    Norwalk 38 47.9 53.6
    Amistad tot 75 81 86

    Black students 2003
    state 21.6 37.5 36.8
    drg H 22.5 38.1 33.6
    Norwalk 19 30.8 37
    Amistad tot 64 75 79

    Am I reading this correctly Black students at Amistad has scores of 64 vs Norwak at 19? MORE than 3 times higher?

    Total students at twice the performance?
    Corda’s team (for the short time they are still with us) needs to look at the AMISTAD model and glean whatever “best practices” they have.

    Parents might jump up and down about possible sports cuts- notice no one worried about the level of academic weaknesses…. but the public has a vested interest in AT THE LEAST performing at STATE average levels.

    How does this look for our property values for people considering moving to Norwalk and the schools are on notice for such weak academic performance?

    Stop administrating and start teaching.

  • 6 Learn about Amistad (in Norwalk) // Apr 14, 2007 at 8:13 am

    An Evening with
    Chancellor Joel Klein
    New York City Department of Education

    Along with Dacia Toll
    Co-Founder and Director of
    Amistad Academy

    Thursday
    April 19, 2006
    6:30pm

    A Vision for Improving
    Public Education:
    Choices and Charter Schools

    Sponsored by
    Norwalk Children’s Foundation

    Pepsico Theater
    Norwalk Community College
    188 Richards Ave
    Norwalk, CT 06854

    For More Information: Call 857-7382

  • 7 School comparisons // Apr 14, 2007 at 8:36 am

    Go to a site called greatschools . net

    You can see the CMT scores and comparison of class size, etc.

     

      math     reading     writing  
      CMT grade 4     CMT grade 4     CMT grade 4  
    Naramake Elementary School  82% 76% 88%
    Columbus Elementary School  82% 70% 85%
    Rowayton School  81% 79% 82%
    Cranbury Elementary School  79% 69% 79%
    Jefferson Elementary School  78% 55% 78%
    Tracey School  73% 62% 79%
    Marvin Elementary School  73% 63% 74%
    Wolfpit School  71% 59% 81%
    Fox Run Elementary School  71% 55% 67%
    Silvermine Elementary School  70% 54% 63%

      math     reading     writing  
      CMT grade 8    CMT grade 8    CMT grade 8 

    Briggs High School  — — —
    Nathan Hale Middle School  63% 70% 75%
    Ponus Ridge Middle School  64% 66% 75%
    Roton Middle School  64% 63% 75%
    West Rocks Middle School  60% 64% 75%

      math     reading     writing  
      CMT grade 10    CMT grade 10    CMT grade 10 

    Brien McMahon High School  70% 71% 73%
    Briggs High School  28% 22% 25%
    Norwalk High School  67% 81% 82%

  • 8 anon parent // Apr 14, 2007 at 8:51 am

    #8- I plan on attending. I think it is important at this time and any time to see how others are excelling and to see where our schools are lacking. The BOE cannot boast of such scoring yet wants more money to add to the problem. I would hope that those who have been committed to keeping our budget in check will not falter now. It seems though by reading todays paper that the Norwalk “Outers” have recruited 2 more to their side. What a shame. Hopefully no more will defect and this outragious addition to the BOE budget will not pass. Get your keys in hand on Tuesday night and get out to the special council meeting and support those who support accountability. Don’t let this go any further.

  • 9 anon parent // Apr 14, 2007 at 8:56 am

    Dems tax hike plan earns ire of Republicans
    The Democrats’ budget puts money toward health care access, but pulls funds from Republican Gov. M. Jodi Rell’s education plan.

    REGION — House Minority Leader Lawrence Cafero is blasting a $36.4 million Democratic budget proposal, saying tax hikes on “middle class” households will drive residents out of Fairfield County.

    The proposal, released Thursday, would lower state income taxes on couples together making between $20,000 and $100,000, but raises the rate on couples with income more than $150,000. In Fairfield County, Cafero said, a family making $150,001 per year would hardly be considered wealthy.

    “Picture (a married couple of) teachers who might make $78,000 a piece — their (state income) taxes will go up 10 percent,” said Cafero, R-142. “Can you imagine those two teachers maybe having two or three kids — maybe a couple of them are going to college? They’re still paying higher electric bills. They’re still paying $3 a gallon for gas. Their health insurance went up … And now, guess what? Their taxes are going up. You think they’re going to stick around? ”

    The Democrats’ budget puts money toward health care access, but pulls funds from Republican Gov. M. Jodi Rell’s education plan. Rell’s budget would increase state spending 6.9 percent per year to supply more education dollars to cities like Norwalk — with high property values but significant poverty.
    The Democrats’ two-year budget spends $300 million more per year than Rell’s plan. It passed the legislature’s Appropriations Committee on a 36-17 party line vote.

    “Yes, we may spend a little more than the governor,” said House Speaker James Amann, D-Milford. “But most of that money is going to health care.”

    The health care funding would increase historically low reimbursement rates for doctors who treat poor patients on Medicaid. It also includes funding for regional initiatives, such as a health care pool that would enable cities and towns to save money on health care costs.

    Both Rell’s and the Democrats’ budgets violate a cap on state spending. And while the Democrats enjoy a veto-proof majority in both houses of the legislature, they would need the governor’s permission to exceed the cap.

    Rell’s reaction to the Democrats’ plan was as swift as it was negative.

    “We simply can’t afford that. The taxpayers in this state cannot afford that,” she said Thursday. “I think what we really need to do right now is sit down at the table and begin negotiations as soon as possible.”

    Democrats have said income tax breaks in the plan would benefit 88 percent of the state’s taxpayers.

    For joint filers earning between $20,000 and $100,000, the 5-percent income tax rate would be reduced to 4.75 percent. But couples earning between $150,001 and $200,000 would pay 5.5 percent, those earning between $200,001 and $250,000 would pay 6.25 percent and those earning more than $250,000 would pay 6.95 percent.

    Even some area Democratic legislators are criticizing the plan.

    “Down here in Fairfield County, you do run into the fact that a lot of families who are working to get by are actually making over ($150,000),” said state Rep. Chris Perone, D-137, vice chairman of the state legislature’s Finance Committee.

    Perone said he also opposes cuts that could cost Norwalk education dollars.

    “I’d have a hard time getting behind any budget that does that, because it would really hurt our part the state,” he said.

    Republicans and Democrats are looking to hammer out a compromise before the legislative session ends June 6.

    “These are two very different budgets and we’re going to have to find some middle ground on these issues,” Perone said of Rell’s and the Democrats’ plans. “At the end of the day, we’re going to come out with a budget that looks fairly different from what we have currently.”

  • 10 Lyons - where can we find the budget? // Apr 14, 2007 at 10:03 am

    Where is the BOE school budget so we can review it?

    Is it posted somewhere, can we pick it up?

    Why isn’t the public access to this communicated so that everyone can easily see the budget?

    Please advise.

  • 11 just1guysopinion // Apr 14, 2007 at 10:40 am

    Mike:

    Thank you for your time. Some of us do appreciate the time it takes to do, what you and others do. As a person who probably has met Corda, why can’t BOE put figures together to explain how the budget is allocated? Why do they not have a finance director? Frankly it doesn’t make sense to me. Similar to you I have two children in Norwalk schools and another on the way, I want a school system that is fiscally sound. If it is broke then it needs to be fixed. I am not a Corda basher but a school system without a finance director or an accounting system that can show line items of a balance sheet creates this environment of a lack of accountability.

    Query: Does BOE have a finance person accountable for the budget? If not, why not? If so, does he explain the economics behind the budget request? You have explained with charts, graphs, figures. Does BOE do the same?

  • 12 indiga // Apr 14, 2007 at 11:15 am

    To be fair, comparing scores at an Amistad school and a standard public school is not apples to apples. It is a distinctly different education model — one that appears to be excellent but closer to private shools than the public schools here in town.

    New Haven Register

  • 13 Mike Lyons // Apr 14, 2007 at 11:47 am

    #9 — Unfounately, the BoE budget isn’t on-line anywhere that I’m aware of. All of the other City department budgets are available on-line — in line by line detail — on the City’s web site (http://www.norwalkct.org/CityDept/finance.asp); click on “Click here for 2008 Recommended Operating Budget Summary” or “Click here for 2008 Recommended Operating Budget Line Item Detail by Department.” Since we on the Board of Estimate do not have line item control over the BoE budget (by State law we can only give them a gross total, which the BoE can spend any way it wants), the Finance Department doesn’t break out there line items. The BET members do get a full budget book from BoE, but hard copy only so I can’t post it. Oddly, the BoE does not put its budget up on its web site, as far as I can tell.

  • 14 Mike Lyons // Apr 14, 2007 at 11:51 am

    just1guysopinion — you ask “Does BOE have a finance person accountable for the budget? If not, why not? If so, does he explain the economics behind the budget request? You have explained with charts, graphs, figures. Does BOE do the same?” One of the only central office positions that WAS eliminated at BoE was Finance Director. They do put together a pretty elaborate budget presentation, but in hard copy only. Under the FOI Act it is a public record and any member of the public has the right to get a hard copy of it; on Monday, you could call the BoE Public Affairs Officer, Sheri L. McCready, and request one ((203) 854-4015).

  • 15 anon parent // Apr 14, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    Indiga, wouldn’t it be fair to expect that our kids get this type of education when we spend so much on education each year?

  • 16 indiga // Apr 14, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    What is the “operating expense per pupil” for Norwalk’s schools (as in the Amistad schools example below)? How is that different than the “direct spending” Lyons uses? What expenses are factored into each? Inquiring minds want to know…

    Here’s the Amistad information:
    “Operating expenses at Amistad average $10,700 per student, Toll says. To supplement the state funding, Achievement First raises private money.”

    Unless you know how averages are calculated, you’re not sure that you have a fair basis for making comparisions. Just ask any actuary.

  • 17 indiga // Apr 14, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    I think education is the most important thing we should spend money on. I’ll gladly pay higher taxes if kids are getting better schooling because of it, if teacher’s are making the same (or more) money than cops and firemen, and if the curriculum is focused on teaching not testing.

  • 18 Mike Lyons // Apr 14, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    The averages I used in my analysis all come from the State Board of Education web site; they don’t compare us to dissimilar types of schools like Amistad, but rather to standard public schools throughout Connecticut. So they are fair comparisons.

    I think most people recognize that the schools are the most important function of local government (the fact that we spend 60% of our budget on them is proof). Indiga hits the nail on the head when he/she says “I’d gladly pay higher taxes if kids are getting better schooling because of it.”

    In Norwalk, we’re certainly paying the higher taxes –we pay the highest taxes in the area (21% higher than Stamford’s, 52% higher than Darien’s). Those high taxes are largely driven by school spending (up 50% in the last 10 years, while all other City spending is only up 22%).

    We pay our teachers the 3rd best teacher pay in the State (even though we rank 54th in per capita income), and pay our administrators 9th best (of 169 towns). So we’re definitely paying them well, far better, in fact, than every other major City in Connecticut (including all the comparable cities in our DRG group), and better than all of the surrounding wealthy towns (Darien, New Canaan, Wilton and Westport) do.

    So, as indiga says, are our kids “getting better schooling because of it”? Not if standardized test scores are you measure.

    Our number 1 rankings for pay dissolve into bottom half of the barrel results on our students’ test scores. Of the nine cities in the DRG (according to the State Board of Education), we rank 7th in SAT verbal results; 5th in SAT math results; 5th in Grade 8 CMT reading; 3rd in Grade 8 CMT writing; 6th in Grade 8 CMT math. In only one of the 5 test results listed did we even finish in the top half.

    So in the DRG, we have the easiest kids to teach (i.e., the least socioeconomically impacted, according to the State DRG analysis. We have by far the best paid teachers and administrators. And we consistently produce sub-par results (my 2001 analysis showed the same poor performance). Stamford’s kids consistently outperform ours on SATs and CMTs (and did 6 years ago as well), even though the poverty rate in Stamford (according to the State) is 43% and the poverty rate in Norwalk is 23%.

    Now there are two possible explanations for these phenomena: 1) we have incompetent teachers, overpaid and underproducing; or 2) we have an administration that can’t run things well enough to maximize use of talented teachers. I know from personal experience of having three kids who went through or are in the public schools that possible explanation (1) not correct. I’d therefore vote for the latter explanation.

  • 19 anonymous // Apr 14, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    Mr. Lyons - Please put this as an editorial piece in the local newspapers. Please.

  • 20 anonymous // Apr 14, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    Everyone wants the best education that we can achieve. The rankings don’t lie. The evasiveness of Corda is hard to accept. I’d like for the Dems who want to raise the cap to explain what part of the budget is they’ve really looked at without wondering were the oversight is?

  • 21 anonymous // Apr 14, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    And if that idea doesn’t win them over, then perhaps they should ask Mr. Mellion how the teachers really feel about Dr. Corda’s lack of support for them over administrators.

  • 22 anonymous // Apr 14, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    There is so much posted here that I would like to comment on, but the most important thing I would like to point out is the misunderstanding that a 14:1 or 12:1 ratio of students to teachers is what people get hooked up on. I have never taught a class in Norwalk with less than 20 students. Many times it is the opposite I have a full class of 27 or 28. The public should understand that some of the scoring on the CMT and CAPT testing is hurtful to the overall preformance of the school. If a school has a large transiant population the language factor plays a huge part in the scoring. Mr. Mellion understands what teachers feel about Corda, he has been to every meeting I have been to concerning Corda’s search for administrators.

  • 23 Anonymous // Apr 14, 2007 at 6:38 pm

    A class with “fewer” than 20 students is not critical. Talk to anyone over 40- we had 30 students to a class.

    The language factor is accounted for by the subgrouping.

    More teaching hours, more discipline works.

    Less teaching, more play, does not.

  • 24 Mike Lyons // Apr 14, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    21 and 22 — just crunched some numbers from the State Board of Ed web site. Among our DRG group (the 9 socioeconomically-comparable cities), average class sizes vary by grade, but the overall averages for the cities show that Norwalk is tied for second smallest average class size with East Hartford and Stamford (20.3 students per class); only Norwich of the 9 has classes that are smaller, while class sizes are larger in Ansonia, Danbury, Derby, Meriden and West Haven (the overall DRG average is 20.7 students per class). Since one or more of those cities’ students outperform ours on each of the SAT and CMT tests, class size can’t explain the test data, or we should be ahead of the cities that have larger class sizes (but we’re actually behind them).

    I agree with 21 that “the language factor plays a huge part in the scoring”, but again, the test score comparisons are with other cities that also have language factors. According to the State BoE, of the 9 DRG cities, Danbury and Stamford have larger non-English-at-home language populations than Norwalk (Norwalk is at 29.5%, Stamford at 34.6%, Danbury at 36.6%). Yet their kids outperform ours on ALL of the tests I evaluated (SAT verbal, SAT math, Grade 8 CMT reading, Grade 8 CMT writing, and Grade 8 CMT math.

    So if our results can’t be explained by class sizes or socioeconomic factors, I keep coming back to management.

  • 25 Mike Lyons // Apr 14, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    21 and 22 — Research on the effect of class sizes is very mixed. A massive study of Connecticut schools by Harvard economist Caroline Huxby (http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/hoxby) concluded that “class size does not have a statistically significant effect on student achievement” (http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/hoxby/papers/classsize_oct2000.pdf). Huxby does a good job of breaking down the famous Tennessee study that had allegedly found such a connection. Another international study found similar results (http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3347861.html). This study made a remarkable finding: “[O]ur evidence suggests that the existence of class-size effects is related to the quality of the teaching force. Smaller classes appear to be beneficial only in countries where average teacher quality is low. If teacher quality is a key input in education, this interpretation can explain why class-size effects exist in some countries but not in others and at the same time why the countries in our sample where we did find sizable class-size effects also exhibit poor overall performance. This suggests that it may be better policy to devote the limited resources available for education to employing more capable teachers rather than to reducing class sizes.”

    I think this explains why class size has no statistically significant effect in Connecticut. As a state that pays its teachers better than all but one or two other states, one would expect our teachers to be among the more capable. Norwalk then pays ITS teachers better than every community in the State except Easton and Greenwich. So one would make the same assumption, that we have very qualified teachers (admittedly not all, but we’re talking averages here).

    I think WHAT is taught, and HOW it is taught, and HOW schools are managed, are much more important than class size in affecting student achievement. We definitely found that at Marvin School in the 1990’s, when we converted it to an Accelerated School (on the Stanford University model) and dramatically improved test scores without any more money or any more teachers than any other elementary school in Norwalk.

  • 26 Best Practices & Teacher evaluation program // Apr 15, 2007 at 5:52 am

    Corda and his team need to look at all this data and also look at the “practices”/curriculum of the school systems that are successful.

    From that glean “best practices” and do some program testing to see if they work in Norwalk.

    After program testing those idea, implement the ones in a broader way.

    We need leaders.

    How about Corda Teacher evaluation program?

    What value have we gotten from all the evaluations of teachers? Do the teachers agree that all the evaluations have helped them to improve?

  • 27 just1guysopinion // Apr 15, 2007 at 7:26 am

    Two comments:

    indiga: Last year my son was in 4th grade at Columbus and I was really shocked how much time was spent on preparing his class for the CMT test. It seems that it really is taking away from teaching time. I wonder how the teachers feel about this? Is this a result of having to satisfy requirements for NCLB?

    Mike: I am interested in your opinion about Corda. I don’t know the man. And usually the person in charge is subjected to a lot of criticism. But is Corda an effective leader for this school system? Is he a reasonable person or does he try and impose his will on everyone? I find the most effective leaders are good at finding common ground and working with others. I’ve heard mixed things when it comes to his ability to get along with others. I usually judge a person by my personal experiences with him or her. I have none so I am really interested in getting some perspective on this. Another query, absent the budget and perhaps just relying on the numbers, has Corda made improvements to this school system during his tenure that seem to work?

  • 28 Mike Lyons // Apr 15, 2007 at 8:10 am

    just1guysopinion — I’ve met with Sal Corda on many occasions. I find him intelligent and engaging. I think he HAS made improvements to the school system; for instance, although our kids test scores are much lower than they should be as measured against our comparable DRG cities, they HAVE all come up noticeably since Sal took over.

    Sal is also quite tough, and willing to fight hard for what he wants. In some private budget negotiations with him last year he showed toughness and occasionally a bit of obnoxiousness; at one point he had pushed back so hard against BET requests that he find some relatively small savings that several BET members came within inches of cutting another $1 million from his budget just to prove a point (cooler heads prevailed!). Sal is protective of his and the BoE’s independence, maybe pushing that too far. He was highly resistant to the Common Council’s retention of PWC to audit the schools in 2001, even though he had only just started as superintendent. Rather than looking at it as an opportunity to gather valuable information about the school system he had just taken over and admitted he didn’t understand yet, he instead reacted to the audit as an affront and resisted it, unnecessarily antagonizing the Council (which conducted the audit anyway).

    Here’s my view of Sal’s problem. Sal came to Norwalk from other school systems that were vastly better funded than Norwalk’s (when he arrived, Norwalk was spending a tad under $10K per child, while Peekskill (where he came from) was spending $15K). In Peekskill, however, a large chunk of that money came from the State of New York, NOT local taxpayers.

    In Norwalk, of course, we get the smallest percentage of State money of any major city in the State (about 10%; other cities get as much as 80%). And, as shown above, we are NOT a wealthy community, able to tax ourselves without limit to fund the schools.

    So Sal came here from a high budget environment, and he runs Norwalk’s schools in the same way — but we don’t have the same resources his other city did. His answer is not to hunt — REALLY hunt — for cost savings. His answer is to continually look for more funding from local property taxes. It doesn’t make Sal a bad guy or foolish — its just the way he’s always done business.

    I know that tendency, because my company, United States Surgical (where I’m Associate General Counsel) used to run the same way. In our heyday of 20% annual growth in the late ’80’s - early ’90’s, ‘expense was no object.’ If USS ran into a problem, we just hired more people (by the hundreds) — just as Sal has.

    Then came managed health care and the entry of Johnson and Johnson into serious competition with us in the mid-90’s, which rocked USS back on its heels; indeed, almost out of business. In 1994 USS laid off one third of its employees (2,000 out of 6,000). You can’t imagine the pain of that. But we had to do it to survive. We had to figure out how to do more with less people. And we did. We didn’t do it through brilliant foresight (even though we had many brilliant people). We did it because we had to. Since then our sales have grown from $800 million to over $2 billion. If USS could double its sales and quadruple its profits with a 33% smaller work force, it doesn’t seem too much to ask that the school system re-engineer itself and work smarter with about the SAME workforce. The schools have to make efficiency and cost control (as we do) an integral part of EVERYTHING they do. But just as with USS, I don’t think they will do so unless they’re forced to. And that force is being applied this year by the Common Council spending cap, which we on the BET are legally bound by.