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Norwalk: Update on Pagano Seafood Story


by turfgrrl


March 27th, 2007 · 64 Comments

One of the interesting thing about writing a public blog, is the comments are often more informative than the original posts. In this case, comments were made about an incident that was maybe covered up during the Knopp administration. One wonders if they were true or not. As it so happens, documentation tends to sort of verify the substance of the allegation. Below you’ll find a link to the incident report filed with the Weed and Seed program. The names of the family involved has been redacted.

So where were the local papers on this story? Why didn’t they write about it?

I’ve got some questions about the incident.

Did the family go to the police? Did the police investigate? Was this document part of the vast amount of documents then mayor Alex Knopp left unread? Was the kid reassigned? Who talked to the family? Did the computer involved get removed before a forensic examination was performed? Was there political pressure to bury this incident and who by?

The story resurfaces of course, because Alex Knopp is resurfacing as a candidate for mayor. And politics is a muddy business indeed. Bringing things into the open however, changes the landscape a bit. You can only by time by covering things up, but eventually the cover up becomes the scandal.

What I really want to know is how on the one hand substitute teacher Julie Amero gets convicted of showing porn to minors in one part of the state, and nothing happens when a more blatant incident happens here in Norwalk? How is a pop up ad more prosecutable than a a series of web videos?

Questions beget questions.

Pagano Incident Report

Update: From the Courant:

Amid a flurry of meetings and growing pressure on the state’s attorney’s office, the sentencing of convicted teacher Julie Amero has been postponed until April 26.

No reason for the delay was filed with the clerk at Norwich Superior Court. State’s Attorney Michael Regan, who is now involved in the case, declined to comment. Amero’s lawyers also did not return calls for comment Tuesday.

Amero, a 40-year-old substitute teacher from Windham, was convicted Jan. 5 on four counts of risk of injury to a minor after she failed to prevent students from viewing pornography on a computer in a classroom at Kelly Middle School in Norwich.

The conviction has drawn international attention and ridicule from computer security experts who say Amero was a victim of malicious software that took over her computer and created a stream of pornographic “pop-up” messages.

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64 Responses so far “Norwalk: Update on Pagano Seafood Story”


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  • 1 anonymous // Mar 27, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    Here’s Julie Amero unwittingly showing porn to minors and facing a 40 year sentence on Thursday vs. Todd deliberately showing porn to a minor and that’s the end of it? Maybe there was an investigation and the kid made it up? It seems unlikely the staff would all be in on the training video and nothing would ever come of it…Or maybe the minor is not a minor and encouraged the episode trying to look cool? There are a lot of questions.

  • 2 Anonymous // Mar 27, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    This is coming out now? What else is was buried in the Knopp era? Is someone (turfy) going to look into the settlements Knopp signed off on?

  • 3 Dem in the Know // Mar 27, 2007 at 2:08 pm

    Turfgirl,
    The answer to your question should be easy-there was no evidence of criminal behavior. David Watts ran this one by the DTC last fall in his incoherent attempt to slime Galen Well’s family. If there were any evidence, don’t you think the current administration would run with it? This is akin to Watt’s buddies on the Common Council sliming good people with reckless charges of racism in the Fire Department. After an independent consulting group of three people (two of them African-American) and the former chief (African-American) have stated that there was no racist acitivity to investigate, why give it any of your time?

  • 4 Sean // Mar 27, 2007 at 3:55 pm

    Dem in the Know-

    Do the Norwalk Democrats have a problem with race?

    for two days you have attacked members of your own party. Are you the same DTC Spokesperson who claim that four African -Americans Grant, Bolden, Watts and Hilliard would be denied access to the ballot? Maybe, Krummel views of South Norwalk being a “ghetto” is rubbing off.

    Now , that is proof that Norwalk DTC has a race problem.

    Why is the DTC smear machine attacking Dave Watts and his “buddies”.

    Knopp supporters are afraid that the Democratic Mayoral Nomination is slipping away from them. Leaving this young man as the party savior.

  • 5 anonymous // Mar 27, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    I agree with Sean. David Watts should be applauded for having the courage to do what he has done. He will be a great mayoral or council candidate.

  • 6 Dem in the Know // Mar 27, 2007 at 4:21 pm

    I am not a spokesman for the Dems, just don’t approve of people who slime others with rumor and innuendos. Also don’t approve of elected officials personally profiting from their positions of public trust. Speaking of race, I am proud of my party’s diversity, why don’t you take a look at the the makeup of the Republicans?

  • 7 turfgrrl // Mar 27, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    Dem in the Know: I think the pattern here is “Cover-Up Knopp”.

    1. Who knew about about either set of allegations?
    2. Who reported each allegation?
    3. What did the person who received the report do?
    4. When did they do it?
    5. Was an investigation launched?
    6. What was the outcome?
    7. What were the lessons learned?
    8. How does the incident get resolved/prevented?

    In each case, these questions don’t seem to get answered. Why is that?

    so;

    1. Who stopped the investigations?
    2. Why were they stopped?
    3. What were the lessons learned?
    4. How does the incident get resolved/prevented?

    which spawns the next series on the rinse and repeat cycle;

    1. What else is out there?

    What I really want to know is then, are you confirming that the Norwalk DTC knew about these allegations, brought to their attention by David Watts? If so, then are you confirming that the DTC collectively did nothing after hearing that a child in the weed and seed program, was subjected to a possible sexual predator in “Todd” in addition to pornographic videos on a computer? I mean can you possibly be serious that all these people think nothing is wrong when a child reports such things? What happened to common decency and protecting children?

    Sec. 53-21 of the Connecticut General Statutes. The relevant portion of that statute proscribes that: “(a) Any person who (1) wilfully or unlawfully causes or permits any child under the age of sixteen years to be placed in such a situation that …the morals of such child are likely to be impaired…shall be guilty of a Class C felony.”

    Restated, under that statute, a person who knowingly permits a child under 16 to be placed in a situation that’s likely to impair the child’s morals is guilty of violating the law.

  • 8 indiga // Mar 27, 2007 at 6:25 pm

    Why would a police dept that (as many here have stated) was no fan of Mayor Knopp cover up something as blatant as described in the memo? Are you giving Knopp and Galen Wells credit for so much power that they can twist even those who don’t like them to do thier bidding? You make it seem like Alex is some sort of “godfather” pulling the strings of corruption behind the scnes to protect his friends. If so, why’d he lose? The two arguments are at cross purposes and defy logic.

  • 9 turfgrrl // Mar 27, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    indiga: Why do you assume the Police Department covered up anything?
  • 10 Dem in the Know // Mar 27, 2007 at 6:45 pm

    Turfgairl,
    I heard an incoherent allegation, considered the source and moved on. If you truly beleive this nonsense, instead of spreading rumors and innuendos, why not file an FOI complaint about the police not releasing information, or contact the Attorney General and ask for an investigation? Remember though, your credibility is at stake.

  • 11 Gideon // Mar 27, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    What’s all this about? This is the first I’ve heard of this.

  • 12 Gideon // Mar 27, 2007 at 6:59 pm

    Upon re-reading my previous comment, the tone doesn’t seem to be too congenial, so let me re-phrase:

    Interesting story. I did a news search on Google and didn’t come up with anything. What is this story?

  • 13 anony // Mar 27, 2007 at 7:07 pm

    Gideon, Supposedly the Democratic town chair of Norwalk destroyed porn evidence to avoid an investigation from going forward on showing porn to a kid in a city summer jobs program. The then mayor tipped them off and told the parents there was nothing to prosecute. The parents complained, then the trail sputters because of some sort of cover up. That’s the allegation.

  • 14 Gideon // Mar 27, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    Strange. Still can’t find anything on Google News. Does anyone know where to look to find a news story on this?

  • 15 keepnitreal // Mar 27, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Turfgrrl:

    Could you share the source of the “incident report” you posted (or at least apprise us of the manner in which this document was vetted)? It is remarkably devoid of identifying information (letterhead, masthead, date stamp, signature of compiler or witnesses). How do you know this document is what it purports to be?

  • 16 anonymous // Mar 27, 2007 at 10:23 pm

    David Watts is a hero for breaking this story to the Democratic Town Committee last year.

    He will have my vote and support this fall.

  • 17 anonymous // Mar 27, 2007 at 10:31 pm

    I agree with number 17.

    David is the dems rising star.

    He should run for mayor.

  • 18 anonymous // Mar 27, 2007 at 10:34 pm

    Number 16: I think we need to get to the bottom of this as a city. Turfy should be commended for her blog’s putting this forward for commentary and review by the city. The allegations, if true, are very serious.

    Hopefully, the newspapers will run with this and expose this to the city at large. This is disgraceful.

  • 19 anonymous // Mar 27, 2007 at 10:48 pm

    This site should have an interview with dave watts. I want to hear his point of view.

    You should hop on early since his train is going far.

    Everyone else is listening to him in this city since his message is clear and simple.

  • 20 keepnitreal // Mar 27, 2007 at 11:04 pm

    These allegations are indeed quite serious. Is anonymous (#15) suggesting that Mr. Watts was also turfgrrl’s source? If so, it would help (as anonymous #18 suggests) if Mr. Watts came forward to offer a first-hand account of his story; he doesn’t seem too CHICKEN to tell the truth!

  • 21 Anonymous // Mar 28, 2007 at 2:18 am

    Is Alex Knopp heading from a Democratic Mayoral primary?

    A lot of people are excited about Dave Watts for Mayor. Why, during his brief time working at city hall- he would buy pizza for staff and encourage meet ups (236). Even the firefighters like Dave Watts. During the Knopp/ Moccia election one firefighter put a funny sign on Dave’s back. Dave bought them all coffee and laugh with them. He is a good guy and I support him.

  • 22 anonymous // Mar 28, 2007 at 2:43 am

    Dave Watts should be commended for breaking this story. He is a true hero. I want to see him run for Mayor or running the party.

    I think the site should interview this true champion of justice and proudly let his voice and story be heard.

  • 23 GET REAL // Mar 28, 2007 at 8:43 am

    Hey #’s 15, 16, 18 ,20 & 21 youi signed your name as anonymous, but we know your name must be David Watts, or at least his mother. David Watts for Norwalk Mayor? You’ve got to be kidding!

  • 24 anon // Mar 28, 2007 at 8:48 am

    Hold on, we don’t need to jump to Watts for Mayor. All of his stories end up being recanted by him, first and then dismissed by everyone else. If he is so sure Knopp covered up and intimidated this family, then why is he now pushing so hard for Knopp to run again. He has a real credibility problem and makes alarming statements all the time. His m.o. is to play Al Sharpton and then back off when he gets in trouble.
    I still think B.Krummel is the better candidate. Knopp ain’t a contender and Watts can’t get nominated for anything.

  • 25 turfgrrl // Mar 28, 2007 at 9:40 am

    keepnitreal, I have many questions too.

    1. Who knew about this allegation?
    2. Who reported this allegation?
    3. What did the person who received the report do?
    4. When did they do it?
    5. Was an investigation launched?
    6. What was the outcome?
    7. What were the lessons learned?
    8. How does the incident get resolved/prevented?

  • 26 Anonymous // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:17 am

    Dave Watts has been contacted and will be making a short statement.

  • 27 Anonymous // Mar 28, 2007 at 10:22 am

    whoo hoo! David Watts is jumping into the mayoral race. Yalies rejoice!

  • 28 David Watts Supporter // Mar 28, 2007 at 11:00 am

    David Watts is to be commended for his honesty and courage. He stood up last year and exposed this injustice at the Norwalk DTC and no one said or did anything.

    We need you David to make Norwalk a better place. Please continue to expose these bad things that have occured in the past.

    And most of all, please step up to lead our city.

  • 29 David Angelo Watts // Mar 28, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    Dear Turfgirl:

    I am writing to you today because, I received a few calls last night asking me about your blog. My response is a simple one “I have nothing to do with it”. Last year, I did bring the Pagano’s issue to the Norwalk Democrats- that’s because -I believe in advocating for those who cannot help themselves. I ask Galen Wells to step down she refused and that was the end of it. Calling on Galen Wells to step down has cost me some political points but I am no politician – so who cares?

    I am surprised at the amount of support I receive on this site and in public. Wow! Maybe some of you share my vision of local leaders working together to find common solution to taxes, education and public safety. I don’t need to be nominated to a particular office to keep fighting for those who can not fight for themselves. Attacking me, is the easy thing to do – but changing hearts and minds around here is very difficult. I will not stop trying to effect change.

    If you or any of your fellow bloggers agree that it is time for change contact me directly. Together, we can!

    Dave Watts

    (203) 216 -8337 cell
    dw3001@mycingular.blackberry.net

  • 30 anon // Mar 28, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    David, once again you are backing down. You did a lot more than talk to the DTC meeting. You mouthed off about the Wells’s and Alex’s part in all this. You offered intimate details to anyone who would listen, saying that there was a cover-up and you published flyers to that effect. Don’t quit your day-job…if there is one.

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