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Norwalk: Awful Memory Lapses


by turfgrrl


March 23rd, 2007 · 42 Comments

The racism charge that hangs over the Norwalk fire department has certainly caused some long lasting friction. Last night, according to the Hour, a hearing was held by an investigatory panel to look into the incident involving a video tape that only the Hour has seen.

The panel had hoped to shed some light on a racist videotape made public last November. The tape, which was released exclusively to The Hour by former firefighter Scot Wilson, showed firefighters at the Broad River Station using racial slurs. The panel included Common Council members Michael Coffey, Carvin Hilliard, Richard McQuaid, Joanne Romano and Herbert Grant as well as the Rev. Phyllis Bolden, chairwoman of the panel.

Saying he had “been advised not to appear” before the committee to answer questions, Knopp refused on numerous occasions to confine his answers specifically to his knowledge of charges of racism that was brought to his attention through a letter sent by ex-firefighter Scot Wilson in 2005.

“This is an attempt to make me look bad,” Knopp said. “I came here in good faith. I never read the letter and have no recollection of seeing it while in office.”

On the face of it, it’s likely that Knopp probably doesn’t have recollection of the letter because fire department morale, or for that matter, the morale of city departments in general was not a high priority in his administration. You see, by acknowledging problems, and doing something about them, that might make him look bad. Looking bad, is apparently more important than doing the right thing, which would have started along the lines in asking your fire chief a question or two about the incident. The video tape, the morale of the department, or a simple, WTF is going on over there would have been a good start.

But the real problem with this incident is exemplified in this exchange from the Hour:

Ronald Mackey, president of the society, made a stunning accusation when he said he was “totally shocked” at Knopp’s contention that he hired McCarthy from the Westport Fire Department because McCarthy shared his views on diversifying the department.

Mackey told the committee that former Westport First Selectwoman Diane Farrell wanted to bring a more racial balance to the Westport Fire Department.

But during a meeting in 2005 with Mackey, Farrell, Ron Morales and others, McCarthy refused to consider making any changes that would diversify the department.

The Norwalk fire fighters were upset to learn that Mackey, president of the Firebird Society in Bridgeport, a black and latino firefighter organization, was allowed to speak and they were not.

This incident certainly doesn’t help boost the already noted low morale in the department, reported earlier in the Norwalk Citizen News reports;

On Nov. 21, McCarthy issued a public apology, accepting full responsibility for failing to respond in a “more aggressive” manner. “I allowed the disciplinary nature of my meeting with an employee to distract me from the claims he was making,” McCarthy said. “That was a grave error in my judgment.”

Also in response to the revelation, 3D Seminars, LLC, of New Haven was hired to provide a diversity and cultural assessment of the department. On Feb. 6, 3D Seminars presented its assessment to the Board of Fire Commissioners, reporting low levels of morale but a lack of any “large diversity related problems” and a sense of “brotherhood, regardless of race or ethnicity” in the department.

Yet an earlier Norwalk Citizen-News report dug into the morale issue noting that McCarthy spends little time with firefighters and makes judgment calls and decisions without involving them. There has been talk too, of the way in which McCarthy was picked over another fire chief candidate that the commission empaneled to hire the new chief had recommended. Knopp, then chair of that panel, over ruled the two other members to select McCarthy. As they say in the fire house, where there’s smoke, there’s fire. And the smoke swirling out of the firehouse suggests that the chief put there to put out fires seems only adept and stoking the flames of discontent.

So what we have here, in total, does look very bad. And it seems that there’s a pattern of  not wanting to look bad creating incidents that are in fact bad, awful even. So how does this panel go about making a bad situation better? Well let’s start with listening to what is really going on in the firehouse. Why is morale low? What else isn’t McCarthy doing? Let’s stop the endless fixation on who is looking bad by looking into whether a guy who has no experience running an urban fire department is really able to do the job. The fact that didn’t feel well served enough by McCarthy’s testimony is telling enough. The firefighters have every right to be upset. The Fire Department seems to be not well managed under Chief McCarthy. And that does look very bad.
Source: The Hour, Racism panel puts Knopp in hot seat, By JAMES WALKER, March 23, 2007

Source: The Norwalk Citizen News, Hearing Set In Fired Deparment Probe, By Lauren Garrison, March 8, 2007

Source: The Norwalk Citizen News, Racism Investigation Panel to Conduct Hearings, February 1, 2007

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42 Responses so far “Norwalk: Awful Memory Lapses”


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  • 1 anon // Mar 23, 2007 at 9:39 am

    This hearing is a disgrace. The former mayor is being unfairly targeted. Did he have any responsibility over the department? No. He delegated the responsibility for it his chief. And the chief took responsibility for not reacting quickly enough. He hired a consultant. What more can this panel hope to accomplish?

  • 2 jed722 // Mar 23, 2007 at 10:05 am

    Alex Knopp showed great courage appearing before this committee. He should be commended for his dedication to finding the truth about this incident.

  • 3 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 10:32 am

    Alex Knopp was in charge of the department. He was the Mayor of the City and the Chairman of the Fire Commission.

    It happened under his watch and he covered it up because he was in an election cycle. His actions were disgraceful.

    The papers also state Mr. Knopp did not read letters that were sent to his office. That is astonishing and troubling. I am happy he is no longer Mayor and hope he never runs for office again.

  • 4 Mr Greenpeace // Mar 23, 2007 at 10:37 am

    I can see the hear and now is being overlooked, the past revisited, what about the firefighters they are the backbone of our dept and while this all is going on are they being taken care of,I truly hope so.I just recently sat with fire chiefs from all over the country learning things for the first time about skills at a fireground.They all said its time to pass this information on. Command is passing on what you know to the younger fireman, showing them cutting edge education that honestly does not stop, giving the seasoned veterns positions to pass on what they know as well.

    I trust while all this hearing stuff is going on the firefighters are given the chance to go and learn and better their fire skill and can count on seeing new equipment so when thier standing on a third floor with 40 pounds of gear waiting for water, it comes so they can do thier job.

    Just curious do they the have in the city lock boxes on the outside of every building giving the fireman access to any property they respond to without waiting for a key holder? This idea was created at least 20 years ago to insure the safety of its residents, and firefighters
    and is standard throughout the indusrty. The concept of a firefighter using the one key he has while responding to retrieve the keys to the building is not new in fact most owners like it for obvious reasons.I can’t imagine a agrument against it, or why it should not be used.

    A good way to impliment it, is to make it a occupancy condition on any new building, the building dept should be told about it if its not a idea already.

    Mr Greenpeace

  • 5 Concerned Citizen // Mar 23, 2007 at 10:53 am

    Jed722.. your dem partisanship in crystal clear. On the radon testing you were vilifying Mayor Moccia. I state Your words:

    “Here’s a good example of the mayor not caring what happens in the schools. You can be sure that if this was the Norwalk Inn he’d be all over it.”

    by jed722 — March 21, 2007

    Read Comment #3 and then read your comments here and in the above radon blog. Yet here your singing praises to king Alex. I know of another more fitting song to sing, it’s called “Knopp goes the Weasel”. Join us in singing along - WE ALL KNOW THE WORDS.

  • 6 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 11:49 am

    Alex Knopp is finished.

    Period.

  • 7 Anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    Why are Repubs so afraid of Knopp?

    Should Slow Mo get a free pass?

    Did Slow Mo reward a corrupt fighter?

    Does Slow Mo live at the Norwalk Inn?

    Does Slow Mo pay taxes to the city?

    Does “Norwalk Inn for all your affairs” give Slow Mo a free room?

  • 8 Anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    Knopp used poor judgement by talking at this forum. What was he thinking?

  • 9 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    Why are the Dems so afraid of Mayor Moccia ?

    Did Photo Op Knopp cover up racism in the fire department ?

    Did Photo Op Knopp cover up a scandal in the summer youth program ?

    Did Photo Op Knopp take 30 plus boxes of city documents when he left office ?

    Did Photo Op Knopp not deal fairly with the firefighters ?

    Didn’t Photo Op Knopp promise the residents that he wasn’t running again ?

  • 10 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    Let’s see if Moccia will hold the line on the tax increase and hold the line on the Board of Ed. If he caves in and pulls a Rell he deserves retirement.

  • 11 Anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    People can change their mind. What about the assit to mayor job? Takling about a flip- flop.

    Dump Slow Mo 2007!

  • 12 Anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    It seems to me that the Mayor Moccia eleiminated the $90,000 for the assistant Mayor. Of course Dump Slow Mo 2007 does not like the truth that might be blown in by a gale and hit a wall. We all know!

  • 13 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    Jed722 we all know who you are…an Alex butt-boy who wants another job with Alex. To be fair you just want a job, period. You don’t need to defend Alex. He is, after all, the smartest guy in the room - according to him. You don’t help his cause, only hurt him. He should tell the truth about the process used to get to the truth about the alleged racism claim. If he did nothing he should apologize. If he did something he should say what that was. Action was called for - not buck passing or selective amnesia.

  • 14 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Hey you two - lighten up and remember, no name calling. It’s unpleasant for the rest of us. Thank you.

  • 15 indiga // Mar 23, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    Moccia is a smiling, incoherent tool who’s let the Mayor’s office become nothing more than “Let’s Make a Deal”. Starting with the deal made with the firefighters union to get him elected. Prior to the election, Moccia was being ridden around town on a fire truck — maybe exchanging some so-called “banter” with the white guys joyriding with their favorite candidate about the black and Hispanic guys stuck back at the firehouse doing the work.

    Now it’s deal after deal. A sweetheart deal giving up public park to enrich Herb Grant’s management company and give his son a venue. Surprise, surprise…Grant consistently votes with the Mayor’s team. “Quid pro quo” anyone? A mini-golf course deal planned and delivered under the radar by Parks and Rec to give away parkland to another crony…and again Bondi votes with the Mayor’s team. How about a deal to punish the Historical Commissioners for daring to take a stand about the Norwalk Inn’s attempt to (further) destroy the Norwalk GReen by demolishing 93 East Avenue — a buidling that has been listed on the US National Register of Historic Places since 1980’s. And they knew it when they bought it! The Republicans have even taken to punishing one (and perhaps two) of their own for taking a stand as neighborhood leaders to hold developers accountable on Stuart Avenue. Without the hullaballo around that, we would never have gotten the improved zoning that was passed the other night. It clearly sent the message that the citizens were awake.

    And you know what? “Awake citizens” is Alex’s big legacy. He empowered all these neighborhood groups — the Mayor’s Neioghborhood Preservation Meetings, ENNA, CNNA, Spring Hill, Norwalk Preservation Trust. Did Moccia show up at Stuart Avenue? Never. Even though he had just been elected and was giving lip service to “neghborhoods”. Alex came out to show his support for the neighbors. Call him photo-op Knopp, if you like, but I see Moccia’s “what me worry” grin in the papers much more often than I ever saw Knopp. Seems to me that while Knopp was in, the “old boy network” was short-circuited. And they didn’t like it one bit and are not about to let it happen again — no matter what it takes.

  • 16 Mr Greenpeace // Mar 23, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    its funny I talked to a former conservation member who did actually care and delivered when it came to defending open space ect ,,when the new mayor took control they were never asked back after there term..Why was that? I am starting to see the most important issues that didn’t attract votes were side stepped.

    I have never been one to say i am for any one party but reading all this it sounds like a party has been going on at the taxpayers expense.Even with another killing in So Norwalk yesterday it stil doesn’t stop the banter on how one has gotten or will get screwed living in Norwalk.

  • 17 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    I heard about this site last week and started reading some of the comments, good job turfgirl, this is a good place to come to when you want to get another view. I read the papers today and suspected there would be a blog on this so here I am with my view.
    It seems to me that it was quite unfair for Ms Bolden to allow public participation that was racially biased by outsiders when it is my understanding that there were quite a few firefighters sitting there waiting to speak. They weren’t all white either! members of the fire dept that said they were not allowed to speak and only listened to these two men who spent a very long time depicting the white people in this town as biggots and racists and telling all that attended that Mccarthy and the white firefighters were the cause of all the problems. This is unfair. The hearing is about Norwalk and the firefighters that were there to speak were completely ignored by the chairwomen that had invited them there. Alex knopp put all the blame on Mccarthy and what he viewed as a witch hunt against him. It is my understanding that he belittled the panel when they asked questions and refused to answer any questions until he painted himself as a patron saint of minorities and became downright rude and verbally abusive because they had the nerve to question him.and then when he did answer, it was with an “I don’t recall” or ” never read the letter”. This is unacceptable from a person who was the chair of the fire commission and the mayor of a town to say that he did not recall or didn’t read something this inflammatory. I wonder what the moral at the fire dept. is today. The panel should be allowed to view the alleged tape and so should the firefighters. where is the tape and who owns it? These are the questions that need to be answered and the chairwomen should rethink her agenda for the next meeting. The firefighters, black, white and hispanic and any other nationality should be able to weigh in on these allegations. The reason for this hearing is supposed to bring out who, what and when. Not demean our firefighters who work in un-Godly and dangerous situations for long hours to protect us each and every day. nd to one of the poster’s above, yes, the former mayor did need to be there. It happened on his watch.

  • 18 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    Indiga, Let’s make a deal didn’t start with either Alex Knopp or Dick Moccia. But let’s deal with facts.

    What’s the sweatheart deal Herb Grant got? He has to pay the same permit fees, secruity fees and so on that the Oyster festival pays? Jeebus. That’s some break.

    Next. Mini golf? Is it a done deal? I don’t think so. And I think its a bad idea. So let’s see if Moccia will come out against it, or support it before we knock him on it.

    93 East ave.? Wasn’t there a compromise offered? Didn’t the preservationists reject it? So whose fault is that? Was it a good or bad deal. We’ll never know, because no one is bothered in this town about yet another old building being demolished until it sits on commercial property. You want to demolish in Rowayton and subdivide? No problem.

    Now about those neighborhood groups. Did anyone who was in them ever get put on a board or commission by Alex? I don’t think so. Alex never wanted neighborhood groups to do anything, he just wanted their votes. Look around and ask yourself if the city is working better, the same or worse. And what has changed or not changed.

    As for the firefighters, explain what deal you’d like to examine. An honest examination of the facts would do us all some good instead of making accusations without backing them up.

  • 19 indiga // Mar 23, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    Fair enough, anonymous 18, but I stand by my statements; it will take me a little bit of time to get the backup documentation. But I will…

  • 20 Watchdog // Mar 23, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    I respectfully address both Indiga and anonymous #18:
    As evidenced by your responses above, you both demonstrate a fairly strong knowledge base with regard to Norwalk’s political operations. Who, in your opinion, would you support for Norwalk’s mayor down the road?

  • 21 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    Good idea watchdog and while they are at it, maybe they could give us a list of council and BOE candidates. On both sides of the isle!

  • 22 turfgrrl // Mar 23, 2007 at 10:28 pm

    Former Anonymous 22 and 23, posting as someone else, especially a public official like Mayor Moccia is not tolerated here. Please stop. For everyone else, I have removed two posts that were posted as anonymous but signed as coming from Mayor Moccia. While the content of the posts was not objectionable, the pretense was. So that is why I removed them. If anyone has been offended or is concerned they can contact me off list, at turfgrrl at gmail dot com.
  • 23 Mr Greenpeace // Mar 23, 2007 at 10:30 pm

    Mr Mayor I have and will continue to post suggestions ,

    I see now the police blotter in todays Advocate has more in detail,this is helping out the residents in reading what types of crime and at what time they are being committed that helps tremendously for that extra set of eyes. Web sites are also a great tool for the observant like the sex offenders site,the need to get the word out it is paramount, I’m sure posting here is a good start.Even though some are caustic and abusive deep down inside they all must care about the city ,they don’t want the job.

    Lock boxes for firefighters are also a great tool for them, no longer do they wait for a key holder while gas builds up, fires burn or residents who locked themselves out with a child inside wait for someone with an Estimated Time of Arrival of 20 minutes. New buildings and new business’s should have them as part of an occupancy permit.This also frees up an engine company for the next call.The cost to the city is zero.

    I have more you will see them posted my experience tells me someone will see one of my suggestions and use it,,I don’t care who takes credit as long as another life is saved and the police and fire depts get help doing there job,,it is for me all about safety I have had three relatives both fire and police die related to injuries on the job my father one of them.

    enough about me thank you again to our hostess, not for her no one would have a chance to write or read any of this.

    Mr Greenpeace

  • 24 Mr Greenpeace // Mar 23, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    oops sorry turfggrl, I wouldn’t of responded if I knew, elimanate my posting as well or edit it if you like.

  • 25 Watchdog // Mar 24, 2007 at 9:16 am

    You know, I gotta say… Mr. Greenpeace, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Respectful and engaging. It’s interesting how one’s persona shines through in this mode of communication. I truly enjoy your ramblings, my friend.

    And to Robert F.
    To attack one’s typing skills and/or possible learning disability is downright hurtful. Perhaps the psuedo-intelligentia would attack conventions and grammar while overlooking the unique message each one of us affords. To spare you pontification, and since you are so aggressively concerned with editing and revising, we suggest you scan your OWN comments a third time: (re: “you’re opinions”).

  • 26 Watchdog // Mar 24, 2007 at 9:25 am

    Addendum

    Oops, that’s intelligentsia..
    But what the heck.. you got the idea.

  • 27 Mr Greenpeace // Mar 24, 2007 at 11:24 am

    thank you Watchdog,

    another likely example of no cooperation is going on right now, right before 11 am this sat the fire dept gets a call for a problem at a house full of kids underage kids,,now picture a fire truck and a crew that are trained professsionals ready to respond to another emergency, heart attack, fire, or car accident sitting there at the house.(usually three men).They ask for a police officer to show up to assist because this is a social problem may even be a risk of injury call and what I can deduct the police said no and called the DSS to respond in about a half hour or so . So our trained personal with no power of arrest or detainment get to sit and wait at the scene.

    I’m sure when we read the police blotter tommorrow every available police officer including the chief was way to busy to help the fire dept out and were at or responding to crime in the city..time for more persoanal we won’t assume there being lazy.

    I asked the public to get involved yesterday, I’ll ask again today call the powers to be and simply ask why the fire dept was treated as if they were asking for a outragious request.

    I’m sorry but if the police wants help, maybe hey should think about helping thier own the other men in blue I apoligize if I’m wrong on this one .

    If I’m right the fire chief should speak up and tell what is happening defend his department his men and his office. the mayor should be asked what the deal was and the firemen themselves should be left alone so they can do the job of all three depts.

    Its sad I start my day off like this but if I don’t make note of this who will? any takers?

    I have to say Watchdog I take compliments with reluctance( I’m grateful just the same) but can return one to you with ease you are also a fine edition to this site as well.

    To all the others who read and want to do something positive and not go on record, just send a note to the creator and let her know we are all grateful she has done this.No one has to agree with any of the postings but its obvious if you out here reading your part of the solution.

  • 28 Watchdog // Mar 24, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Mr. Greenpeace:

    Yikes! Your recount definitely translates to a grossly inefficient use of emergency personnel in our city. I wonder what the actual logistics are preventing action to take place. Is it limited manpower or is it a union issue? I do know that the police department is in need of additional bodies since they are currently in the process of hiring new candidates. In the process, yes, which is a long and drawn out affair. To address your issue, I wonder if anyone knows why this would happen. It gets a little scary when you can’t call 911 and get help on a timely basis. Are there any police or fire personnel out there who can account for the situation Mr. Greenpeace witnessed?

  • 29 anonymous 18 // Mar 24, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    I’m tired of the same old crowd from both parties in this town arguing over nonsense instead of chipping away at the problems. There are real issues here, and it would be a real treat to see public discussion instead of accusations and allegations.

  • 30 Mr Greenpeace // Mar 24, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    here is an update, the fire truck just left to respond to a alarm on main st its almost 1 pm, and the health dept was called in on the same home,,my first thought was what about the kids, but neglected to say that. I’m sure any one who can take over $100,000 dollars from this city can look into this and set the record straight. Things like this that surface need to be addressed and not by me, until that happens I write I write I write.

    Mr Greenpeace

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