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Elections Have Energy Consequences


by turfgrrl


March 22nd, 2007 · 30 Comments

Connecticut has the highest electricity rates in the country, at least in the contiguous states, and only Hawaii has higher rates. This is one of the contributing factors to the high cost of living here. So you’d think that Connecticut’s legislature would be trying to do something about that wouldn’t you? Well, as I’ve posted on before, they are content to push 4 bills out of committee that don’t really do anything.

But there are things that the legislature can do to spur innovations. This state was once leading the country not too long ago in developing innovative production tools and products. Somehow, we just keep letting ourselves get priced out of retaining the innovators, thinkers and tinkerers that develop these things. So I was curious as to what Al Gore was saying in D.C. yesterday, about energy. And found a clip of the hearing that displayed Gore’s response to where he bought his electricity (carbon neutral) from and his attempted explanation on what was preventing that carbon neutral electricity from lowering in price. Gore was trying to suggest that the standards for regulating green energy be set at the federal level that over rides local restrictions that prevent solar voltage technologies from being deployed. It was a pretty important statement, but Inhofe really,really didn’t want to hear it. He preferred grandstanding and talking over Gore.
The full clip here shows this, but it was not linkable. What has the Internets ablaze is the ensuing exchange with Senator Boxer-D, now chair of the committee, and Senator Inhofe-R. It makes for better red meat in the blog world, but sadly Gore’s actual point might not get better play because of it.
So here’s the clip that’s making the rounds, the moement where Senator Boxer-D deals the technology clueless Senator Inhofe-R a quick lesson on who gets to make the rules these days. Yes, elections have consequences. You go girl!

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30 Responses so far “Elections Have Energy Consequences”



  • 1 OhNO // Mar 22, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Gore does not set an example by the way he lives. He is a hypocrit and has no right to be any kind of spokes person for going green. Give mr a break. He really should innovation and leadership when he was VP for 8 years. Give me a break.

  • 2 SolarGuy // Mar 22, 2007 at 11:23 pm

    Of course Gore leads by example. And shame on anyone who would suggest otherwise. If we all did a tenth of what Gore does, we’d be changing the world’s energy consumption.

    Here’s a link to carbon offsets.

    Here’s a link to figure out your carbon footprint.

  • 3 Robert F // Mar 22, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    OhNo - If breaks were mine to give, you’d get several. 1) to work on your typing and/or sentence structuring. 2) it wouldn’t hurt you to back up what you say: you call Gore a hypocrite and provide zero examples. 3) maybe you just need a break to discern between reality and your foggy personal bias.

    Gore leads by example and you miss the boat, but I’m glad to know there are folks with a computer that believe the stories the media invents: Gore is an electricity hog because he owns a large house?

  • 4 Robert F // Mar 23, 2007 at 3:23 am

    Is there anything we don’t pay the most for in CT?

    It would be nice if legislation was a solution to the energy providers’ high prices. Unfortunately, if the suits in City Hall, the State Capitol, or DC can’t see how it will line their pockets with green, alternative energy sources will remian the domain of Willie Nelson and the like. If that weren’t the case, solar energy and biofuels would have been developed moreso, sometime since the 70’s. Instead, too many of us bought SUV’s while the other half went efficiency-reduced consumption.

    Many of the folks who work at the utilities want a pay increase every year, so we’re going to pay for it.

    Sorry, but wisdom tells me it will take a crisis greater than 9-11 to get at least half the adults in our country moving in the right direction. How many of you were alive and buying gas in 73 & 79 when we had to wait on lines, and have since bought an SUV? Don’t answer that, it’s just a thought.

  • 5 Concerned Citizen // Mar 23, 2007 at 11:22 am

    Gore is a pompous ass. He lied to us and played on our fears. He is a hypocite of the most extreme eliteist proportions. HE DOES NOT SET AN EXAMPLE! 10,000 foot manisons that he lives in, private jets, spewing carbon exhaust, to fly all over the globe to promote himself. I’ve seen him get in and out of PLENTY SUV’s HYPOCRITE!!! Oh that’s right he “buys carbon off sets” HA! what a joke. ” Yes, I fly in private jets, heat my masive mansions, drive in SUV’s to my pompous lectures and I buy Carbon offsets so I’m allowed to pollute. And yes, I DO OWN STOCK IN THIS COMPANY THAT SELLS CARBON OFFSETS.” What a sham!
    Many scientists have also stated that the earths warming can be due to solar activity. Here’s the proof - The ICE CAPS ON MARS ARE ALSO MELTING. If they are melting on MARS, We can reason the same is happening here on earth. wheather you want to believe it or not, we do share the same sun with Mars. Funny, I don’t recall any big oil companies on Mars or maybe the martians are not buying enough carbon offsets. Gore runs around like Chicken Little with his “the sky is falling” Rants. Although there might be something to what Al Gore is saying about excessive exhaust fumes. If Al Gore, Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer, and the rest of this group would just shut their yaps, think of all the toxic gases that would be saved from being emmited due to their verbal flatulance. Hey guys & gals, how about it, what do you say? For the childrens sake, SHUT your Yaps and help save the world.

  • 6 jed722 // Mar 23, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    Sure, that’s why Gore was nominated for a Nobel prize. They must only offer those to pompous asses. There’s hope for you yet.

  • 7 Concerned Citizen // Mar 23, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    Surely, Gore has learned at your feet Jug-head. Hey, Brianiac, why don’t you and “the Sky is falling crowd” adrress the question I asked? As I’ve noticed about you before, you selectivly read and digest only what you want to. I think you are inhaling more carbon than oxygen there Juggie.. or are you too one of those that breathe but don’t inhale? (note to self: Send Jug-head some “carbon offsets” for Christmas) Well here it goes again(try to concentrate Jug-head): WHY ARE THE ICE CAPS ON MARS ALSO MELTING? PLEASE EXPLAIN.(USE SHORT WORDS & SENTENCES IF IT HELPS YOU) COULD IT BE DUE TO SOLAR ACTIVITY?? And since we share the same sun with Mars, COULD IT BE REASONED THAT SOLAR ACTIVITY IS AFFECTING THE EARTH AS WELL? I could care less about a “nobel peace prize” giving by euro-trash scientists(if they are that at all) MANY, MANY MANY SCIENTISTs HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP, YET SILENCE FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU JUG-HEAD. AAAANNNNNSSSSWWWWWEERRRR THE QUESTION!

  • 8 anonymous // Mar 23, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    concerned– when 99% of the world’s scientists agree on man’s impact on the earth, there’s no debate left.

  • 9 Concerned Citizen // Mar 23, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    Dear # 8 you are DEAD WRONG. There are as many , if not more who diagree with Gore, than do. Unfortunately Gore & Co.’s propoganda will lead you to believe that. I will get my FACTS together & will post soon. Heres a fact: During the last 100 years, 3 Major volcanic eruptions have spewed more carbon gases into the atmosphere than the history of mankind has. That’s how minute our contribution has been. The question I asked above still goes unanswered. For every “out of his Gore” scientist you show me, i counter with one that refutes him. THIS IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC HYPOTYISIS. They don’t all agree. Should we try to be more environmentally aware. Sure. to listen to Al Gore Lunacy is Nuts. This is the guy would “invented the internet”. This is the guy who says “LOVE STORY” was about him, etc. He’s a nut!

  • 10 SteVe // Mar 23, 2007 at 8:33 pm

    jed722, perhaps you’ll recall that the terrorist Yasser Arafat was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize. Mohamed ElBaradei? Corrupt Kofi Annan? Jimmy Carter?? They have become a joke that are purely political statements.

    Carbon offsets are the modern day equivalent of ‘papal indulgences’. Sin all you want & then throw a little money around to make it all better. Puhleeze! It should also be noted that Al Gore helped found the company he buys the offsets from.

    http://www.mng.org.uk/green_house/mechanisms/carbon_offsets.htm
    http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/cover031307.htm

  • 11 Concerned Citizen // Mar 24, 2007 at 12:44 pm

    Dear SteVe THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! Jed & #8 Should look at these websites and realize “99%” is a blantant outright liberal LIE. They Still haven’t answered my above question. Scientists deal with FACTS and Al Gore & Co.’s Verbal diarhea has been dispelled by many. THESE IS NO SOLID PROOF TO THEIR CLAIMS! You can’t base scientific fact on unproven speculation. I do know that by scientists claiming such theroies, they get government grants to continue these bogus studies (in other words - a big fact paycheck). My above question that the other posters haven’t answered is so to the point & simple. A Scientific hypothesis has a flow chart of reasoning it follows. Here it goes again: IF THE ICE CAPS ON MARS ARE MELTNG DUE TO FLUCTUATING SOLAR ACTIVEITY, THEN IT CAN BE REASONED THAT THE EARTH WILL HAVE THE SAME SITUATION SINCE WE SHARE THE SAME SUN. This throws enough doubt onto Gore & co.’s claims. And thanks again SteVe for giving us that fine “nobel” list of Loosers.

  • 12 Concerned Citizen // Mar 24, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    Here ias a wonderful video that debunks al Gore & Company’s B.S. This video is for you Jed & # 8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Wr1hcIp2U

  • 13 jed722 // Mar 24, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    You can post your links to the 9/11 conspiracy theories too, but it doesn’t make them any truer. Global climate change is happening and the only political debate is what to do about it.

  • 14 Concerned Citizen // Mar 24, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    jed..That’s the point, Mother Nature takes care of herself. What carbon we(mankind)contributes to the atmosphere is extremely minute. Honestly, take the time to view the entire documentary I posted above on youtube and just listen to what these scientists have to say. To claim as #8 does, that “99%” of the scientist agree with global warming is an extreme falacy and quicksonic dream of Gore radicals. And so long as many scientists do not agree with the Gore crowd, the Gore-ista’s shouldn’t be stating their veiws as absolute fact. Really, keep an open mind and just hear what these scientits say and Then judge for yourself.

    As far as 9/11 - I don’t adhere to conspiracy theroies. I just stated facts.

  • 15 anonymous // Mar 24, 2007 at 8:07 pm

    Wow! I always learned that the earth’s atmosphere was in constant change. Take the studies of the earth’s land masses and the dating of earth sediment (carbon dating)…there are many ideas that the earth has had cold spells and warm spells all through out time. It is a distraction to bring us back to the 60’s. Peace not war, love not hate, earth not economics. Everything old is new again.

  • 16 anonymous // Mar 24, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    Maybe y’all should take a look at what y’all are talking about. Not one scientist disputes that the world temperature has risen in the last 100 years. They don’t also dispute that its risen faster in the last 30 years. For your disputing pleasure:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_global_warming_consensus

  • 17 Concerned Citizen // Mar 24, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    # 16 Please watch

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Wr1hcIp2U

    Then consider the above “scientists” that claim man is to blame for “global warming”. You just may find you’ll have reached a different conclusion after veiwing it.

  • 18 Anonymous // Mar 24, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    Great smackdown by Boxer. Inhofe is just an ass.

  • 19 Concerned Citizen // Mar 25, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    On the page opposit the Op Ed page, next to John Riely’s column is an article about Al Gore and his global warming theory. More than enough scientists refute Al Gore & his “Convienient LIE”. I wish Al & Co.’s and his cohorts would stop pedding their theories as facts.

  • 20 John C. Romano // Mar 26, 2007 at 2:53 am

    Thank you Concerned Citizen for your link to you tube.Wow there certainly is some powerful information there. It absolutly validates the remarks that you and Michael Lyons are making. Information is King. The Gore people seem to have their own agenda other then what they would want us to believe.

    The earth is alot smarter then we are. It takes care of it self. It cools and warms as/if needed. It cleans or purges itself again af/if needed. It also when needed creates cercumstances that purge it of it’s inhabitants. Weather by disease or feast or famon sometimes we humans lend a hand in this regard with a war here or there. But it seems this maybe the natural order of these things. Mother nature will always cure itself and adjust to whatever we humans are challaging her with.

    Again than you for the link, great info.

  • 21 indiga // Mar 26, 2007 at 9:27 am

    Gee whiz…leave for a few days and the “flat earth” nutsos take over. Letting the earth take care of itself is a great idea…so let’s end all sorts of human intervention…logging, drilling, fishing, development, etc.

    Maybe this bit of news (from Mother Jones -hey if they can use YouTube as authoritiative, I can use Mother Jones) will put some spine into the “it’s just so natural” wimps..

    Global Warming Saps Halliburton Profits

    Halliburton reported yesterday that lower natural gas prices and less drilling in North America due to a late winter affected their first-quarter profits. In fact, Halliburton shares took their steepest dive in 8 months, dropping nearly 10%. The company is the “world’s second-largest oilfield services company” and issues affecting them often herald industry-wide trends.

    The slump in profits was caused, analyst James Halloran told Bloomberg, by a late winter (quite possibly global warming related). A late winter meant that the ground froze later, so heavy drilling rigs could not move across Canadian and northern US oilfields until later in the season. That translated into fewer completed drilling projects. Not to mention, with the warmest winter on record this year, people may be using less gas and oil to heat their homes.

  • 22 indiga // Mar 26, 2007 at 9:42 am

    This may be too balanced for the rapid-istas, but…

    http://www.giss.nasa.gov/edu/gwdebate/

  • 23 Anonymous // Mar 26, 2007 at 12:09 pm

    The flat earthers seem to believe that sticking their heads in the sand is a new way to find oil.

  • 24 concerned citizen // Mar 26, 2007 at 6:51 pm

    It’s amazing how all the air-heads complain about Haliburton all the time. News flash: Clinton & Co. were BIG user’s of Haliburton.. question: Why weren’t you air heads complaining when Clintion was hiring them left & right, especially in Yugoslavia? You know why dem or rep leaders have hired Haliburton? They are one of only a few companies that do what they do and are the ONLY western company ( not foreign ). Get off this stupid Haliburton envy you air heads have.

    And to you INDIG-ant: The professional documentary I posted is veiwable on youtube lame brain, it doesn’t mean some Idiot (see Al Gore) video-taped it in his garage. If you air-heads would look at another point of view honestly before emmiting your verbal flatulance, maybe then we could have a civil & honest discussion. And stop saying dumb lies like “99% of the world scientists agree with Gore” …THEY DON”T -an Utterly stupid LIE!

  • 25 turfgrrl // Mar 26, 2007 at 7:22 pm

    Actually concerned citizen, Haliburton is moving their headquarters to Dubai. More info about how much of your tax dollars are going to those foreign owned companies can be found here.

    So what’s the financial impact?

    The move to Dubai could save Halliburton (and CEO Dave Lesar) some money on foreign taxes, though. (With operations in 100 countries, Halliburton had to pay out $289 million to foreign governments last year.) The United Arab Emirates government may have sweetened the deal with favorable real-estate terms or other incentives. Dubai’s Jebel Ali Free Zone, which already houses more than 5,000 foreign-owned businesses, doesn’t impose corporate or personal income taxes and has a robust workforce with no minimum wage. The labor advantage could even convince Halliburton to eventually close the Houston office as the North American business shrinks. After 2008, about 55 percent of Halliburton’s services business will come from the Eastern Hemisphere—up from just 40 percent in 2006. source: slate

    But why let facts and figures get in the way of a philosophical argument?

    Indiga, good link to the Goddard Institue and Hansen. If I remember correctly, Hansen was also the guy who was protesting the Bush administration’s off fixation with running all scientific papers through political operatives.

    Anonymous 16, Thanks for the link to the list of 31 scientists who dispute the causation of global warming. Out of thousands of climatologists, 31 is a small number.

  • 26 concerned citizen // Mar 26, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    And by the way, the condesending Barbara Boxer & Sen. Inhofe exchange highlighted at the top of this blog is posted on, you guessed it, YouTube. Why didn’t you complain about that? Partisan partisan parisan…

    BY the way, everyone agreeing that the earth’s temperature has risen in the past century, dosen’t mean they endorse “Global Warming - the sky is falling” It’s a NATURAL occurance the the earth goes though warming & cooling phases Einstien’s. Still waiting for an answer from all you air-heads why the ice caps on Mars are melting. Now watch you all answer with some else, but an actual answer..waiting

  • 27 turfgrrl // Mar 26, 2007 at 7:43 pm

    Mars lacks an atmosphere. Probably Martians were busy driving Martian SUVs, burnt a few too many petroleum products, er… ok i’m being sarcastic. Really though, there is no water on Mars, so the polar caps are not “melting”. The “ice” is dry ice (CO2), which we know turns from a solid to a gas. It’s a seasonal occurrence, reported on for decades, alternating between north and south polar caps. If earth had the same atmosphere as Mars, there’d be no life as we know it, and earth would be an ice ball.
  • 28 Mike Lyons // Mar 26, 2007 at 11:01 pm

    Actually, Mars does have a significant atmosphere (albeit only about 1% of the density of Earth’s). That’s how it can have dust storms and clouds, sand dunes and morning frost (all verified photographically and otherwise by various space missions), and how our spacecraft can use atmospheric “aerobraking” to decelerate and enter orbit. The seasonal polar caps are indeed frozen CO2, but the permanent cap is definitely water, confirmed by orbital spectral analysis. Orbital data also indicates substantial amounts of water ice in near-surface areas of Mars, and recent photographic evidence indicates that this ice may melt and flow out as liquid water periodically on the surface. A good source of information on Mars is the Planetary Society’s web page at www.planetary.org.

  • 29 indiga // Mar 27, 2007 at 10:05 am

    The Jesuits gave Mr. Lyons good skills; too bad he uses them in pursuit of wrong-headed objectives. FYI, a great site about Mars…

    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/07aug_southpole.htm

    And for those seeking precision in language, this note from the site (love that scientific mind!)

    Editor’s note: In this story we talk about the martian polar caps “melting” or “vaporizing.” That’s not exactly right. A physicist would say more accurately “the polar caps are subliming.” In other words, the frozen CO2–better known as “dry ice”–transforms directly from a solid to a gas without going through an intermediate liquid phase.

  • 30 concerned citizen // Mar 27, 2007 at 10:20 am

    Hi Turf girl.. Thanks for this wonderful website, I enjoy much of your insights and commentarries, but I don’t agree with you on this topic.I don’t really care where Haliburton is or where they are moving to. They are a corporation and are FREE to move where they please. Any company will move to where it will have financial advantages, wheather it’s from one state to another or one country to another. My anger is at the lib’s attacking them constantly, Over & Over. My question is why didn’t the lib’s attack Clinton’s use of Haliburton in Kosovo? Fact is most people didn’t even know who the hell Haliburton was until Bush was elected and chose Cheney as VP. This govenment has ALWAYS used Haliburton, albiet democrat or republican. I know, I know, the Libs HATE ANY BIG COROPRATION unless it’s oner of George Soros’s, then it’s OK.

    Thank you Mike Lyons for the “Martian” Info. The point again is the earth has ALWAYS gone through heating & cooling Phases and the evidence of melting ice caps on Mars due to Solar activity, shows we are just going through a warming trend. CARBON DIOXIDE is NOT the cause of global warming. As I’ve stated before, The TOTAL contribution of Carbon dioxide from all mankind to the earth’s atmosphere is so Minute. Again, 3 Major Volcanic Eruptions in the past 100 years emmitted more Co2 into the atmoshepe than the history of man.

    3 MAJOR VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS > HISTORY OF MANKIND

    I’m tired of also hearing that in the last hundred year the tempuature has increased one degree. From 1900 to 1940 the earths tempurature dramaticly increased. then from 1940 to the 1970’s it spiked downward and got cold. My point is More carbon emmisions would of been released AFTER 1940, post WWII, when the industrial Boom and mass Automobilbe manufactuing occured. SO according to the “global warming - help the sky is falling” crowd, It should of gotten warmer after all the industrialization and severe increase of auto emmmisions… BUT IT DIDN’T!! I’m sure I’ll see another bogus website written by some “scientist” who was awarded nice grant money for promoting global warming. Here’s a test for all you global warming buffs - why don’t you look into how much moola these “scientists” have been award in grant money to promote this histeria. Ohh, you probaly don’t have THAT website, do you. Tha FACT that scientists DON’T all agree with this theroy is reason enough to stop promoting this theroy as a cold hard fact when it isn’t. I’m NOT saying we shouldn’t be careful about our treatment of our environment. I’m NOT saying to go dump Toxic marterails into the seas, Etc. I saying carbon dioxide Is NOT the reason for global warming, that’s it.