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Norwalk: Gordon Tully On Ethics


by turfgrrl


February 22nd, 2007 · 18 Comments

Gordon Tully wrote an op-ed in today’s Hour about the new ethics regulations. Since he’s a rumored common council candidate, I’ve posted his piece here:

Ethics watchdogs must remain independent

In Tuesday’s The Hour, the council president is quoted as saying “There’s some discussion if the ethics board is best left in the council, or if it should be an (appointed) commission.” Did we read correctly? Some discussion? I picture Jon Stewart waiting for the some to sink in. Folks, we need tons of discussion. Some time ago city employees and appointees were asked to comment on the proposed code of ethics. It seemed to me that the code itself was not the primary issue, but the manner of its enforcement. So I did some simple research, and Googled “City Ethics Committee.” Even though I deliberately looked for committees, I found zero out of 12 cities with an ethics committee formed of elected officials. Twelve out of 12 cities had formed independent ethics commissions. There are powerful reasons why this is so.More than any other appointed body, an ethics commission needs to be trusted by the public and by appointed, elected and salaried officials. The public would naturally and logically assume that a committee of the Common Council would have a political agenda: Councilors are elected precisely because they have a political agenda, as was pointed out to me by a colleague on the ZBA.

Besides inspiring cynicism in the public, a committee of the Common Council would also cast a serious pall of anxiety over salaried and appointed officials who, while honestly pursuing their duties, occasionally find themselves at odds with a councilor’s or the mayor’s favorite project. The fear of retribution would inevitably impede their effectiveness. Whether these fears are justified is not the issue: The presumption of political bias is reasonably assumed.

In most cases, members of ethics commissions are chosen by elected officials, but in Tampa, Fla., the five members are appointed this way: One by the president of the University of South Florida; two by the 13th Judicial Circuit; one by the dean of Stetson Law School; and one by the mayor.



In Dallas, no member of the commission may be: (1) a city official or the spouse or domestic partner of a city official; (2) a city employee or the spouse or domestic partner of a city employee; (3) an elected public official; (4) a candidate for elected public office; (5) a person who, for compensation, represents the private interests of others before the city council; or (6) a paid campaign worker or a political consultant of a current city council member
Mr. Coffey is quoted as defending a council body because “It’s hard enough to find people who can serve (as appointees).” The same Google search uncovered a useful list of organizations from which unbiased candidates are drawn in various cities: colleges, bar associations, the courts, civil service board, school boards, state officials, etc. I made an off-hand suggestion that it be staffed with pastors, priests and rabbis, which met with approval by another ZBA member — ethics is, after all, one concern of prelates. But if Mr. Coffey is right, it is far better to be without an ethics commission for lack of volunteers than to set up an ethics committee of the Common Council.In their research, the councilors may have missed City Ethics, an online organization dedicated to ethical urban government. The following comments found at http://www.cityethics.org/mc/introduction deserve quoting:

“The fact that elected officials like to have the final say (on the decisions of an Ethics Commission) is itself a conflict of interest, because it is certainly not in the public interest to give them this final say. The more independent the ethics commission, the more it will be trusted by city residents, the less it will be used for political purposes and the more respect its decisions will be given. When an ethics system is not perceived as independent, and ethics accusations are politicized, the ethics system can actually undermine the very confidence in government it is supposed to protect.”

Because of this built-in conflict of interest, we cannot rely on a committee of the Common Council to act as an ethics commission. Such a body just by its existence will do far more damage than any good a code of ethics might do.

I call on the Common Council to hold an open discussion on this issue in which public comment is invited. This could most effectively be done by holding hearings on the issue through the neighborhood associations, either individually or through the Coalition of Norwalk Neighborhood Associations. To do less is to insure public cynicism and the failure of the current effort toward better ethical standards.

The problem is not the ethical qualities of this or that collection of councilors and the mayor. It is that an ethics committee formed of elected officials is intrinsically unethical. We citizens must oppose it with all our vigor, and help in crafting a proper alternative: Namely, an effective, completely independent ethics commission.

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18 Responses so far “Norwalk: Gordon Tully On Ethics”



  • 1 Anonymous // Feb 22, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    What a blowhard. Who’s going to make appointments to the panel you propose? It’s going to be the same councilmen you objects to. asshat.

  • 2 comeonnow // Feb 22, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    It is totally unconscionable to have the Council set itself up as self-judge of ethics….case in point, The Herb Grant “ethically-challenged” jazz festival….Anyone with even a little bit of internal ethics knows that that is something that should not occur on city property….even if Herb and his family are only going to profit “a little bit”…there is no way that it is ethical for his company to receive the special treatment and permission that he is receiving…AND, yet, the current Council voted to allow this to occur……so how will they be ever able to recognize any other form of unethical behavior,if this blatant case of unethical behavior is judged by then to be ok…????? Come on now !!!!

  • 3 sourgrapes // Feb 22, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    Explain how filling out permit requests is ethically-challenged?.

  • 4 Anonymous // Feb 22, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    I have a bigger problem as a business owner who doesn’t want another event clogging roads and keeping people from entering sono. Does Grant now hold it against me?

  • 5 comeonnow // Feb 22, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    Who cares if Herb Grant “holds it against you..? It does point out one of the ethical problems with letting elected officials receive this kind of special treatment though….because as a member of the Council he could then vote against some issue you are favoring, if you come out against this event of his…

  • 6 Anonymous // Feb 22, 2007 at 9:12 pm

    I’m against having to field requests for money for an event I don’t want and have it become an issue because I appear before the council.

  • 7 anonymous // Feb 23, 2007 at 7:29 am

    Gordon Tully failed to recuse himself on several ZBA votes that he should have, including the ElderHouse variances, which he opposed after being lobbied by the Historical Society of which he is a member. Also, he and Annie Carbone both still continue to wilfully disregard the law on variances and selectively grant them to whom they wish. That is hypocritical and unethical. Figures good old Gordon would have something to say. The are very good friends of photo op knopp. Indiga should be proud of them.

  • 8 anonymous // Feb 23, 2007 at 7:38 am

    Let’s bring back the old days. Bring back Idi Amin, whoops I meant ALex Photo Op Knopp. Why don’t you comment on Alex stealing 50 boxes of documents, covering up the fire department racism scandal, twisting commisssioner arms for hiring of Chief McCarthy, covering up the Galen Wells/Pagano Seafood Scandal (there are some interesting police reports on the topic), inappropriately forgiving Norwalk Symphony and seaport Assn. debt owed to the city, appointing Anne Carbone who is now under her own ethics cloud as the chairman of the ZBA, not giving the firefighters a contract for 3 years, or the host of other scandolous things that photo op did. Mr. Tully should be proud of the actions of his good friend Alex Knopp.

  • 9 Anonymous // Feb 23, 2007 at 7:49 am

    It’s time for the cronies to stop protecting their own. People like Michael Geake should be encouraged to run.

  • 10 Peaceable // Feb 23, 2007 at 1:29 pm

    Yikes! Anonymous 9, are you crazy. Talk about ethically challenged. Have you looked closely at this guy’s record?

  • 11 comeonnow // Feb 23, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    i hear that Bondi is going to run on the Repub. ticket this time…might as well since he’s certainly not a dem anymore……….

  • 12 save it // Feb 24, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    We desperately NEED an independent ethics committee. Right now, Norwalk has achieved an unprecedented level of bipartisanship in unethical behavior.

    For example (and I know I’ll hear all those “dysfucntionl, hysterical” comments given the anti-preservation bias of this blog) BUT…how ethical is it for corporation counsel to tell the Historical Commission not to discuss 93 East Avenue, to rule that the HC can’t invoke the 90 day delay (right after the HC held a pubic hearing that was overwhelmingly in favor of preserving and reusing 93 East Avenue), to stack the Commission with handpicked people who then — at the first meeting, with no experience and not knowing each other — make a floor motion to replace the existing chair with one of the Mayor’s picks. On top of that, the Mayor uses his influence behind the scnes to ensure that the vote goes his way. This is “democracy”? This is a free and open public process? Yikes!

    Sounds like the Human Relations Commission is being stifled as well — but don’t really know enough about that to say.

    Think about it. You’ve got anonymous tips sending the health department out to harrass activists. You’ve got official meetings that skirt FOI. You’ve got a Mayor and Corporation Counsel who may have a “quid pro quo” with the Norwalk Inn regarding the disposition of 93 East Avenue. Seems to me that the things going on in Norwalk right now fail the “reasonable person” standard of ethical behavior by elected officials.

  • 13 anonymous // Feb 24, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    The Human Relations Committee is trying to overstep their boundries. They do not have the right to hire a director, they have the right to be a part of the process with the mayor having the ultimate decision. Maybe they should go back to what they were appointed for. How about taking care of business, like when was the last hearing they had. when was the last time they took a complaint that they followed thru on? When did Alex Knopp allow them to hire a director? If memory is correct, Alex decided that he would hold up the process for 3 years following the retirement of Sonia devitt and even made comments to the fact that if people had complaints they could go to Bridgeport to CHRO and that the commission was not needed in Norwalk. So where do these people come off trying to change city charter now? Maybe they should be glad that the mayor actually is giving them input unlike the way Alex handled it. as far as the FOI deal, had Alex’s cronies held that meeting no-one would blink an eye. However, the meeting should not have taken place with out the proper announcements and postings. maybe thats the questions that should be asked, was someone given the task to announce the meeting? Did someone drop the ball? and who knew the meeting was going to take place and didn’t make a fuss until it was known why they were meeting. Hmm, wasn’t that meeting about racism in the fire dept? wasn’t Alex someone who turned a deaf ear on the problem because it was based on the person he strongarmed commissioners to hire? And wasn’t that same person a consultant on the city’s infrastructure prior to this appointment? Can anyone say unethical?

  • 14 save it // Feb 24, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    Anonymous 13…Saying “he did it too” doesn’t make it OK. This just validates the need for an independent ethics committee…

  • 15 turfgrrl // Feb 24, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    Norwalk is not Tampa or Dallas, both being much larger cities that are also governed under a county system. The problem with Connecticut, and by extension Norwalk is that there are no existing mechanisms by which an ethics panel can be impaneled at arms length of the city. So, either the state will guide a regional ethics process, For example: State legislators are considering a bill that, if enacted, would require the state to investigate ethics complaints against municipal officials.

    The proposal is being reviewed by the General Assembly’s Government Administration and Elections Committee. It is modeled on the state’s Freedom of Information and Elections Enforcement commissions, whose staff members field questions and complaints from residents across Connecticut.

    The bill’s sponsor, state Rep. James Spallone, D-Essex, said the state has for a couple of years been considering requiring all cities and towns to enact codes of ethics. This would simplify that process, he said.

    “You could end up with 169 interpretations of ethical behavior, which is confusing for people and not the most efficient way to do it,” Spallone said. “Second, it could be expensive for small towns like the ones I represent who don’t have legal departments but private counsel. If you have (an ethics investigation) that goes on for a while, it could really throw off the budget.”

    Spallone said he also believes the state’s ethics office and its staff would guarantee objective investigations.

    In Norwalk, for example, where the Common Council is updating the city’s 40-year-old ethics code, the ethics commission has traditionally comprised the council president, majority and minority leaders

    The rest of the article is here: Legislators ponder new ethics measure by Brian Lockhart

    The current ethics code is old and outdated. It needs to be upgraded. Should ethics allegations be judged by peers of the same town? No, that;s simply common sense. Should every town reinvent how it wants to handle this dilemma? No.

    The discussion doesn’t need to happen here, but at the state level. Where are is Norwalk’s legislative delegation on these issues?

  • 16 save it // Feb 25, 2007 at 4:10 pm

    FYI..an earlier poster said that Tully is a member of the Historical Society. He is not…nor of any other of Norwalk’s preservation organizations. I wish he were.

  • 17 Anonymous // Feb 25, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Wasn’t Tully part of the Norwalk Green Historic Society? And that is now …?

  • 18 save it // Feb 25, 2007 at 6:35 pm

    “Are you now or have you ever been a member of a preservation or historic organization?” Scary….