Labor Day Musings, America’s Long Civil War Against Fun

Although 1894 marked the year  that the first monday of September became a national holiday celebrating contributions workers have made to the strength, prosperity, and well-being of our country, Labor Day means different things to different people. Until recent years, it marked the start of the NFL season, the end of Summer or the start of serious political campaigning.

History professor Thaddeus Russell has a different spin on why labor day started, and how American history is rife with examples of anti-fun actions. Considering that the Obama administration signed a law that put the FDA to ban the importation of clove cigarettes, it seems that we are steadfastly keeping in that tradition. Clove cigarettes are just the tip here,  as of September 22, it is illegal to sell clove or other flavored cigarettes. Except, menthol cigarettes. Funny about that. Here’s some stats that should  give you concern, menthol brands account for 28% of the $70 billion in cigarettes sold. Clove and flavored cigarettes combine for less than one percent.

Whether you are a smoker or not, you should be concerned about this ban, because it is the typical nanny-state behavior meddling thing that government has no businesses being in. The unemployment rate, which notoriously under reports anyways, surged to 9.7%, and the commercial real estate market is about to do its version of the residential real estate market with all the complicated mortgage finance securitization and credit default swap problems.

It’s not just government that meddles in the behaviors of people. Corporations decide that employees can’t be trusted in how to use computers, coffee shops ban people with laptops during certain hours. Even the NFL has banned  its players and the media from tweeting during games. Maybe the NFL should be concerned about the play that happens on the field instead of on the sidelines. As for banning journalists for tweeting. Maybe they’d like to have banks of pay phones installed for media use and ban mobile phones too. Schools cut recess, and the President says,”I know longer school days and school years are not wildly popular ideas,but the challenges of a new century demand more time in the classroom.”

Really? I think Steve Jobs and Bill Gates would have a different opinion of that, both having dropped out of college and both spurring on the challenges of a new century by actually creating something. Innovation, thinking and all the creativity that spawns from those activities doesn’t come from these antiquated ideas of sitting in classrooms or working in cubes. They come from experimentation and yes, play. The sooner we the public figure out that politicians shouldn’t be moralizing over behaviors the better. That next iPhone app may just be created in a cafe in Paris by someone happily smoking a clove cigarette after all.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/NwlkSpectator NwlkSpectator

    Clove cigarettes are just the tip here, as of September 22, it is illegal to sell clove or other flavored cigarettes. Except, menthol cigarettes.

    Not being a smoker, I don't understand why clove cigarettes are so much more dangerous than the menthol or regular ones. There has to be some reason because they are about to become illegal, just like incandescent bulbs and mercury thermometers. Quite truthfully, I'm tempted to go out and buy a few packs for a stockpile.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OldTimer11 OldTimer11

    Where are you getting the information about clove cigarettes ? The link didn't work. The FDA website doesn't show any new ban on clove cigarettes. There are references to a ban on flavored cigarettes of all kinds, except menthol, on google, and stories, but nowhere is there anything that looks like a new law or regulation. One of the stories makes it sound like FDA is now responsible for "regulating" cigarettes, but cannot ban them. ? The price they get for any kind of cigarettes should scare off most people.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/turfgrrl turfgrrl

    OldTimer11: From the act:
    “. . . a cigarette or any of its component parts (including the tobacco, filter, or paper) shall not contain, as a constituent (including a smoke constituent) or additive, an artificial or natural flavor (other than tobacco or menthol) or an herb or spice, including strawberry, grape, orange, clove, cinnamon, pineapple, vanilla, coconut, licorice, cocoa, chocolate, cherry, or coffee, that is a characterizing flavor of the tobacco product or tobacco smoke.”

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    I still can't figure out why we need to wear a helmet to ride a bicycle. I can't think of a single kid I ever knew who hurt their head so badly a helmet was warranted. But I can sure think of quite a few broken wrists, arms, and collarbones received in bicycle accidents, not to mention teeth knocked out. None of which would have been prevented by wearing a helmet.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    I still can't figure out why we need to wear a helmet to ride a bicycle. I can't think of a single kid I ever knew who hurt their head so badly a helmet was warranted. But I can sure think of plenty of kids who managed a few broken wrists, arms, and collarbones from bicycle accidents, not to mention getting teeth knocked out. None of which would have been prevented by wearing a helmet.

    I do recall a few concussions gotten through sledding accidents as the sledders crashed into rocks, trees, stone walls, parked cars, or the sides of buildings. However I have yet to see legislation ruling that helmets must be worn to slide down a hill on a toboggan.

  • NorwalkSpectator

    I have a weatherwise hairline fracture in my jaw, some rearranged teeth and a nice scar on my chin that I probably wouldn’t have had if I’d been wearing a helmet, not to mention the two dozen stitches it took to create that scar. Nothing like a busted jaw to make one sit up and take notice, I always say.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    NorwalkSpectator, I know you made a post that has something to do with a hairline fracture because part of it shows up in the gray sidebar to the right, but after 3 days it has yet to show up in this thread so we can read the full post….o.0

    Oh well, maybe someday.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WSteward WSteward

    I haven't tried a test but it seems that when an post is deleted it is removed from the main thread list but not from the sidebar. I expect NS deleted the post when he realized that the pre-existing-condition police might be monitoring our every word. xD

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    ROTFLMAO!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/NwlkSpectator NwlkSpectator

    Sorry, I don't know why my post didn't show up. I didn't delete it. The server wouldn't take it.

    My comment simply was that I have a jaw with a weather wise hairline fracture, a number of lower teeth that were "displaced" and a nice scar on my chin, along with two dozen stitches that went into creating that scar that I probably could have avoided had I been wearing a bicycle helmet.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    But that's what I mean – a bike helmet only protects the top and sides of the head, it does NOTHING to protect the jaw and the face! And every kid I know (well, today they're middle-agers, LOL) who had a bike accident that resulted in an injury never had a problem with their head (as in "concussion"), but with their teeth, their collarbone, their arms or their wrists.

    Now please explain to me again how wearing a bicycle helmet is going to protect your teeth from being knocked out? Your collarbone, wrist, or arm from being broken?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sanityinsono sanityinsono

    As a cyclist, I never ride without a helmet. bicycling is an incredibly dangerous sport and I've known loads of cyclers that have been saved by their helmet. Yes, they may have had a broken jaw, some teeth lost, maybe a broken collarbone, but they weren't on life support, in a coma, suffering brain damage or maybe dead. Unless you went to a funeral or a rehab center you probably didn't meet the middle age (LOL) cyclist who wasn't wearing a helmet who also had an accident. Living cautiously and carefully is probably not the best way to lead a full life, but driving without seat belts and riding a bicycle or for that matter a motorcycle is just plain stupid. It's minimal effort and second nature for those of us that do. As for that Iphone in the article, I'll be quite content if that app is created in a Paris cafe smoking a clove cigarette, but more than a little worried, it'll be used while someone is driving.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/NwlkSpectator NwlkSpectator

    Rose – According to the plastic surgeon that put in the stitches and the dentist who worked on my teeth, had I been wearing a helmet, the chin strap probably would have absorbed some of the impact. My teeth would have been loosened, but according to the surgeon, the laceration on my chin would have been much, much smaller. Both the dentist and the surgeon agreed that I was "extremely lucky". You can argue with their conclusions, but I'd imagine they based their comments on previous experiences. At the time, I was not in a position to argue with either of them.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    Sanity, I'm not disagreeing with you – but we're talking about kids riding bicycles, not "cyclists" who ride alongside traffic on major roadways on a daily basis as adults. For one thing, there is a great deal of difference between an injury suffered at the age of 8 or 10, and the same injury suffered at 35 or 40. The injury itself is different and the healing is different. The riding is different also – faster bicycles, faster speeds on the roads, and constant interaction with traffic. Sure, we kids rode in the roads too, but there weren't as many cars on the roads back then, and we were mainly riding house to house, or to the local playground or the candy store – we weren't riding marathons around reservoirs or from one town to another on a regular or daily basis.

    In any case, as I stated earlier, with all the kids I knew growing up who had bicycles, back in the early 1960s to the mid-1970s (by that time we were old enough to drive), there were no helmets worn. Bicycle helmets didn't exist then. NOBODY wore them (and back then adults didn't ride bikes either, for the most part; not like they do today). And none of those kids I grew up with ever suffered an injury that put them in the hospital for more than a few hours at the most (while they had a bone set). I can't remember a single kid getting a concussion from riding a bike and falling off it. Yeah, I remember reading stories in the paper about the odd kid or two that was on a bike and hit by a car and killed, but that has nothing to do with wearing a helmet – kid on bike vs. automobile is almost always going to result in a death.

    However I DO know of several kids who got concussions from slamming into trees or rocks or cars or buildings while sledding. And there's no legislation requiring sledders to wear helmets. Although they have to wear them to ski or snowboard. It's an odd distinction.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sanityinsono sanityinsono

    Rose, I guess I'm confused on what you are arguing. If you are asserting that the government should place more restrictions on people's activities, eg. tobogganing, or that they are inconsistent and that someone makes their message at best muddled and at worst schizophrenic. Bicycle helmet (and motorcycle) save lives I don't think any person who's been involved in traumatic care will argue that. Perhaps sledders should wear helmets too. I should note 40 years ago when I started snow skiing no one wore a helmet, today most do. I'm sure if Sonny Bono, Natasha Richardson or the Kennedy who likewise died after a skiing had survived their injuries they would've been proponents for helmets. 40 years ago no one wore seatbelts except front seat passengers and often they didn't as well. 60 years ago seat belts weren't even offered in most cars. Times change and people's perceptions of danger do as well. Some are unwarranted (likelihood of a child kidnapping are incredibly slim) however some are real and only demand minimal change in habits. Because the govt has a policy for A but not for B which is also as bad (or worse) doesn't make the first policy wrong. Moreover lots of bicycle accidents don't happen because the child/adult is hit by a car, yet helmets still save. Few airplane's crash and even fewer survive airplane crashes yet people buckle their seatbelts, not because they're going to land in a mountain, but because o turbulence and other risky factors.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    Yes, you certainly do seem to be confused. I have no idea why; my post is pretty much to the point, but I'll try to break it down for you.

    Think about when you were a kid. Think about how you and your friends rode bikes. Think about the kinds of injuries you and your friends got from bike accidents – broken arms, sprained or broken wrists, broken collarbones, maybe a cracked or knocked out tooth or two. That's about it. I know quite a few kids who broke bones or cracked a tooth from falling off a bike in motion. But I don't know a single kid who received a concussion from falling off a bike in motion.

    Now explain to me exactly how wearing a bike helmet will keep a kid from breaking an arm? a wrist? or losing a tooth?

    Now think about how you and your friends went sledding. Think about the areas where you went sledding – schoolyard hills, backyard hills, the woods, driveways, main roads. Remember that I'm talking about 40-some-odd years ago, NOT today. Think about how kids got hurt by sledding then – from running into parked cars, rocks, trees, sides of buildings. I know at least 3 kids who received concussions from sledding and slamming into the brick wall of Kendall School; a rock; and a tree behind my house. Yet there are no requirements for sledders to wear helmets.

    So what are my personal conclusions? Okay – first we are told our kids *have to* wear a helmet to ride a bike, yet in my entire lifetime (I'm 50+ ) I know of no child who did not wear a helmet who ever received a concussion from falling off a bicycle! Thus I conclude – from my own lifetime experience – that being forced to wear a helmet while riding a bicycle is ridiculous, unnecessary, and yes, an intrusion of government into private life. It's also not a lot of fun.

    I also conclude that – in my lifetime experience – since injuries from sledding resulted in concussion where injuries from bicycle riding did not, it would make more sense to require the wearing of helmets while sledding since skiers and snowboarders are ALSO required to wear them.

    I am not talking about seatbelts. I am not talking about motorcycle helmets (and remember, there is no law requiring the wearing of motorcycle helmets in the State of Connecticut to begin with, so bringing that into the discussion is a moot point at best).

    All we are talking about here are CHILDREN RIDING BICYCLES. There is no "danger" from riding a bicycle – which is a TOY – that necessitates the wearing of a helmet. Rather, if you want to take it to the next level, riding a bicycle SHOULD require the wearing of arm and wrist guards and maybe a face guard too, since kids falling off bikes have a tendency to fall face first with their arms outstretched, thus causing the broken arm and wrist bones, broken collarbones and knocked-out teeth. And i'll repeat again, no helmet is going to stop an arm or wrist or collarbone from being broken or a tooth from being knocked out.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sanityinsono sanityinsono

    by the way a bicycle is a lot more than a toy.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/sanityinsono sanityinsono

    Rose I appreciate the response, but simply because you never experienced something doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It may be relatively rare, but if only one in 100 bike injuries could've been averted by wearing a helmet, then given the devastating impact of some of the injuries it could be well worth requiring a 1000 people to wear them. In Stamford every year a foundation started by a family who's child died due to a traumatic brain injury after falling from his bike gives out 100s of bike helmets. It's possible that their son would've died anyway but apparently they don't believe so. Perhaps sledders should also wear helmets but the failure to require them to wear helmets is not a reason to not require children to riding bicycles to wear helmets. If sledding was extraordinarily risky maybe it should be simply banned, after all if George Bailey's brother wasn't sledding that day, George wouldn't have jumped in the water to save him and he'd have had his hearing, would've gone off to WWII and perhaps the whole ending of Its a Wonderful Life would've been different.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    Then maybe bicycles should not be sold in toy sections of department stores……

    Just thinkin'……

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/SecondhandRose SecondhandRose

    Then maybe bicycles should not be sold in toy sections of department stores……