Altercation At The Mansion

Part of the fun of planning pARTy in the Park has been meeting at the Lockwood Mathews Mansion once a week. The people there have been gracious in accommodating our expansive meetings, and are excited about the festival highlighting the park and of course the mansion. This morning’s meeting was the last all group meeting before the event, and one of the first things we chatted about, between quotes from Airplane! was this news item:

 

Police had to clear an “out of control” bat mitzvah party Saturday night at the Lockwood-Mathews Mansion Museum.

Brian Fischer, rental coordinator for the museum, told police the younger guests at the Jewish ceremony, which celebrates a girl’s coming of age, tore out ceiling tiles and a light fixture in the 141-year-old, 62-room mansion. Fischer said he saw several boys and girls engaging in oral sex in the bathrooms, Officer Carleton Giles said.

A Wilton man, reportedly intoxicated, was charged with resisting arrest.

After Fischer could not bring the party to order, he called police shortly after 11 p.m., Giles said.

The first officer said he walked into the main room of the mansion, bought by the city of Norwalk in 1941 and saw about 150 guests.

“The party appeared to be out of control, with kids running up and down the stairs and through the rooms,” the report said.

Several barricades that prohibit entrance to some of the rooms were knocked down, Giles said.

Sheldon Gerarden, executive director of the mansion, built by banker and railroad tycoon LeGrand Lockwood in 1868, confirmed Monday that there was minor damage.

“It is a shame because we have worked so hard through the years to provide this facility to the public for different events, and it may mean that we have to review our policies,” Gerarden said.

Sheryl Finnie Baker, who rented the mansion for her daughter’s bat mitzvah, said the reports are “blown way out of proportion.” Fischer overreacted, she said, and to say the party was out of control is ridiculous.

“All I knew was that I was dancing, and then there were five police cars outside,” Baker said.

We will pause here to question how this woman who was dancing would know what was going on in the rest of the mansion. Back to the story:

No one told her the kids were upstairs or that there were allegations involving oral sex, she said. She saw no inappropriate behavior in the bathrooms, she said.

“These kids are not the type to do oral sex,” Baker said.

Gerarden said the carpet was stained, but he declined to provide a damage estimate. He said he is confident that those responsible will pay for repairs.

Baker’s brother, Peter Finnie, 52, of 24 Duck Pond Road, Wilton, was charged with first-degree criminal trespass, disorderly conduct and interfering with an officer, Giles said. No juveniles were arrested, Giles said.

According to Giles, Finnie was “terribly belligerent” to the officers, and challenged their authority to disperse the party. Officers detected alcohol on his breath, Giles said.

According to a police report, Finnie’s wife shook her head in disgust and told police, “My husband is an ass when he is drunk.” Finnie was released after his wife, Leslie Ann Finnie, posted $475 bond, his court file shows.

This woman apparently was at least cognizant of what her husband was doing. The Mansion rents out the building for events because it needs the operating funds. This is the dynamic for museums in general, they act as stewards of history and culture and want to remain as accessible to the public as possible so they rent out the facilities to private events, and keep admission fees as low as possible. It’s a tradeoff that happens because while we spend gobs of money on prisons, education and social services, we spend little on tourism, economic development and cultural activities. Take a look at the pie chart.

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source: Greenwichtime, Norwalk police clear bat mitzvah gone awry; Witness reports sexual activity, broken fixtures at mansion, By John Nickerson, 06/15/2009

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  • Just Curious

    I wonder if this was the same family that was involved with a bar / bat mitzvah gone wild at the Lounsbury House, in Ridgefield, back in 2006 or so?

  • Interested

    The museum was warned years ago not to have parties such as this. Did they listen….No.
    Now factor in a young man that can’t handle the responsibilty of a large crowd of arrogant drunks and what do you get. Where was he when all this was going on? Hiding in his office or checking out the kids having sex. Why didn’t he stop the madness before it got out of hand. Did these people have the insurance required? Shame on the guests shame on the staff. This has been an accident waiting to happen. Rental policy was written in 1996 but was ignored. They are just thinking of the buck rather then the protection of a wonderful treasure.
    I am saddened by the whole mess. When is someone on the board of the LMMM going to wake up? That house is not designed to hold wild drunken parties of 150. It isn’t worth any amount of money they might make.
    Unfortunately nothing is going to change. The big parties will go on and someday sad to say the treasure will become junk!

  • anonymous

    They have to rent out the mansion. Otherwise who is going to pay to maintain it? The taxpayers?

  • Anonymous

    LMMM must have done a good job covering this one up with the local press. How did an out of town paper get the story?

  • history buff

    The mansion is in better shape now than it ever was since it has been owned by the city, and the staff is doing a good job as stewards. this was a single party that got out of hand.
    #2 (Interested) seems interested in only one thing-whining about the staff and making false accusations. The city has given paltry sums to maintain this building for decades, and the Museum board and staff have no choice but to rent it out for parties, just like every other house museum in the country.
    Get a life, #2, and maybe pitch in and help!

  • Interested

    History Buff. The LMMM leases this building and it is up to them to see that it is protected, it is also up to them to maintain it. This is not the only party that has gotten out of control. The building is not designed for modern day parties such as the one the other night. They make the same 1000.00 if they have 50 or 150 so why put the house in danger. Seems like the truth stings a bit huh #5? What you all tried to cover up is now spread across the country. The Hour has finally run the story could it be a board member is on the staff? The Historical Commission should indeed look into the rentals of the mansion. It might help.
    As far as having a life #2? I have one and why are you so offended by my comments, could it be you are part of the mansion staff?

  • Anonymous

    Jewish people having wild drunken parties and Diane posting under a pseudonym. Go figure.

  • The Patriot

    The Historical Commission is asleep at the switch. They should long ago have insisted on a formal, written policy for what were acceptable events for the Mansion and what were unacceptable.

  • Interested

    #3 I am not against renting the museum. I know they need the extra cash. What I am against is renting to large drinking crowds. The house is a Museum not a catering hall. They should rent to people who appreciate the historic value of the house. Large drinking crowds could care less about history, they are there to drink, eat and party. Other house museums have strict rules that are adhered to or the party is over.

  • http://createdthings.blogspot.com Jeff Hall

    #9, how in the world could anyone have know that this would be a “drunken party”? It’s seems clear from the news accounts that this family has issues with alcohol, but how would the museum staff have been able to discern this beforehand?

    When things started to get out of hand, the police were called immediately. The mansion was protected from harm.

  • Secondhand Rose

    Is the Historical Commission the overseers of the LMMM? I thought they had a Board of Directors who have taken the reins of running the place. I was under the impression that the only jurisdiction the Historical Commission has over the LMMM is the maintenance of the building and the property.

  • Interested

    Oh please #10 Mix any large group of people and add booze and you are going to have a problem with someone. It is up to the mansion staff to have been in the rooms to see the problems before they got out of hand. I am glad the police were called, but I bet you a dollar they wouldn’t have if Mr. Cook had his say.

    The mansion was protected from harm? I don’t think so..right now this story is spreading like wildfire. The attemps to bury it is hasn’t worked this time.
    The bottom line is they should never had that type of rental in the first place!

  • http://createdthings.blogspot.com Jeff Hall

    #12: OK, so please define “that kind of rental”. Are you saying that no function that includes alcohol should be allowed in the Mansion? No function with more than 100 people?

  • anon

    I believe the Board submits a budget for the Mansion to the Historical Commission for capital and operating expenses. So, any damage that needs to be repaired comes out of the HC budget for the LMMM — our tax dollars.

  • Nice Choice of Words…

    Am I the only one that is hysterically laughing about the mother’s quote about the reports of oral sex being “blown way out of proportion”?

  • Interested

    Bar/Bat mitzvahs, large weddings, sweet 16 parties,large birthday parties, girls & boys gone wild parties, Hells Angels reunions, ect.
    75 people and under is perfection.
    Cutting the alcohol consumption would be a plus. Good for the house and good for not having someone kill an innocent family of five on the highway because they got drunk at a party at the LMMM.

  • Interested

    OMG #15 Very good observation! That is funny.

  • http://createdthings.blogspot.com Jeff Hall

    #16: could you translate this into plain English? Are you saying that the city shouldn’t rent the mansion out to parties of more than 75 people? Are you saying that alcohol should be against the law in the mansion?

  • anon

    Was alcohol being served to minors at the Bar Mitzvah? Is the City legally liable for that? We could have the only National Landmark ever shut down for violating liquor laws. Does the Mansion have a permit to serve liquor?

  • Interested

    Good question anon. The liquor permit should be on display. Maybe we should call the liquor commission for clarification.

    Jeff are you kidding me?

  • http://createdthings.blogspot.com Jeff Hall

    #20: No, I want to figure out exactly what you are trying to say.

  • Anonymous

    #21 16 answered your questions what part of it don’t you understand?

  • Secondhand Rose

    They have also rented the LMMM for weddings – in fact, they specifically market the mansion for weddings.

    You gotta admit, having your photo taken in a wedding dress coming down those gorgeous stairs to the lobby is a great idea.

  • interesting

    A small wedding would be lovely no question about it. The ceremony in the house and the reception in a tent outside.

  • Secondhand Rose

    That would work in the summer; what would you do in case of rain – or in the colder part of the year?

  • Avatar

    #7 – “Jewish people having drunken parties… Go figure.” Are Jews the only group of people you’ve ever heard of getting drunk & disorderly? And why am I the first one – 18 posts later – to comment on this gutless “Anonymous” racist a-hole. And Turfgirl – I thought you were going to keep that kind of racist garbage off this site.

  • interesting

    25 The museum is very cold in the winter. The heating system no mater what they say is not adequate for winter rentals. The heat goes straight up the skylight. Just as bad in the summer when we get those 90 degree days.

  • Norwalkian

    To “Interested”

    I used to be largely associated with the mansion many years ago and happen to know both of the staff that worked that night well. They had the party under control until the kids broke the barriers upstairs for the second time. Bottom line is that Fischer did the correct thing in calling the police and realizing that it would be impossible to find the kids in the unlit upper floors. Good for him.

    Although I’m not associated with Lmmm anymore for my own reasons, you sound like you-”interested” are apart of that pathetic, crazy, and idiotic group that was kicked out of there many years ago because those in charge realized how crazy you all really were and revoked your keys. I’ve been gone from there for over 6 years now and have gotten over what has happened-why doesn’t you and your whole group do the same and realize that you will never be a part of that museum ever again.

  • interesting

    What crazy group are you refering to? For your information I am not a member of any “crazy group” as you call it. I have a right to my opinion and that opinion is mine alone. Sounds like you are a card carrying member of the MSCOTSV fan club.
    If you could read you would see that I was glad the police was called (post 12)
    All I am looking for is the museum to be protected. The house belongs to the people of Norwalk and should be preserved for furture generations. The Historical Commission should now step in to make sure the mansion is staying within the lease agreement. If you think that is wrong, well that is your problem.

  • Secondhand Rose

    According to what I read in The Hour this morning, the Historical Commission is no longer the controlling organization for what goes on inside the Mansion insofar as rentals are concerned; the LMMM Board has booted them out – to the HC’s dismay. The Historical Commission now only controls the maintenance of the building and the property.

  • interesting

    The LMMM board shouldn’t be so smug. The building belongs to the City of Norwalk. They are always looking for the City to help them out on the heating bills etc. That lease could be pulled if the City can prove the building is in danger by misuse. They should be cooperating with the city not throwng a hissy fit.

  • Anon

    And where were the parents during all of this. Surely they need to be held accountable for the actions of the underage guests.

  • interesting

    According to the paper they were dancing.

  • anon

    ..and drinking.

    My favorite quote: “My husband is such an ass when he’s drunk.” She speaks for married women the world over….

  • anonymous

    It was obvious the parents could careless about what their precious children were doing. You can almost imagine what these kids will be up to when they turn 16.
    Her quote was amusing to say the least

  • Anonymous

    My wife is such a bitch when she’s drunk. I speak for men the world over….

  • Old Timer

    When renting a museum for a private party it is not unreasonable for the museum to demand a bond to cover any damage. It also makes sense for the museum to insist on some security people to maintain order, keep people out of restricted areas, etc. A couple of off-duty cops in plain clothes would have been a big help. Whoever supplied the booze should have had better control over portions, as they can be held liable for consequences. I assume there was a permit to serve alcohol ?

  • alumni

    Excuse me, but would this be a bad time to inquire about having the BMHS class of ’69 reunion at the Lockwood/Mathews Mansion?