Recession And Cultural Institutions

What would Bridgeport look like if the Beardsley Zoo, the Bridgeport Bluefish, and Captain’s Cove Marina  were to close? Bridgeport would look similar to Waterbury, a former industrial city trying to attract a young and burgeoning economy.  These days Waterbury has pinned its hope on an indoor water park. The Coco Key Resort, 55,000-square-foot indoor water park, recently opened in October of 2008.  Not that there’s anything wrong with water parks. But commercial attractions like Coco Key rely on the disposable income of families just as much as non-profit organizations too. And in tight economies, things happen. Witness the latest PR push by the firm that operates Waterbury’s park:

CoCo Key Water Resorts want to help families create those lasting memories while going easy on the pocket book. Guests will receive $50 off their overnight stay between December 25, 2008-January 31, 2009 when mentioning promo code “bailout”*.

“It’s our own “mini” bailout for families deserving a break with their families but needing a little financial assistance,” says Kirk.

CoCo Key Water Resorts offer day and overnight package options to fit any budget. Overnight packages typically start at around $179-$199 per night, which includes four water resort passes valid for two full days of swimming. Day passes are also available based on resort capacity. Four-pack value ticket options are now available online and provide a great value for families.

To plan a water resort getaway or for more information, guests can visit the CoCo Key website at www.CoCoKeyWaterResort.com.

Reducing rates during the key fourth quarter is a harbinger of underlying revenue uncertainty. But the news out of Bridgeport, gives pause to  complex issues that arise out of  municipal relationships with cultural institutions. In an October Connecticut Post article, reporter Bill Cummings identified that the Beardsley Zoo owed $100,000 in back rent, Captain’s Cove Marina owed $147,620 in back rent and the Bridgeport Bluefish owed $187,500 in back rent. All these rents are owed the City of Bridgeport which leases the public lands to the various organizations that operate there. Which raises the question of how the City of Bridgeport will be able to differentiate itself from the rest of the big cities in Connecticut. For awhile, Bridgeport was fostering a burgeoning arts community. With places like NEST, which delivered artist studio space being sold to in order to change over to condo units, the art vibe will struggle.

Norwalk is not immune to the same big city pressures. The Maritime Aquarium is in the midst of a capital plan fund raising for its master plan expansion, but also is restructuring as a result of declining revenues. The Lockwood Mathews Museum faces similar issues, a capital intensive master plan but falling revenues. The Stepping Stones Museum may be in better shape, but is also seeking to expand.

Cultural institutions are a part of what defines a city. They collectively encourage visitors and generate jobs and economic activity.  The State legislature is already looking at curtailing the film tax credit that has recently brought feature film shoots to Connecticut and created post production jobs, generating over $400 million in-state production expenses, according to a Courant article.

With municipal budgets facing harsh realities of lost revenue, struggling economies and resident aversion to tax increases, the cultural organizations that rely on the mix of private donations and public funding support are increasingly vulnerable.  Yet without these organizations, the quality of life in a city suffers.

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  • frustrated skater

    what norwalk needs is a seasonal ice skating rink down at the empty vets park that pays rent and provides a fun winter waterfront activity in this city.

    stepping stones doesn’t pay any rent for its leased city land. that’s a good deal.

  • Forgedaboutit

    The Vets park issue is dead. We don’t need any BS about renting our parks away when we could solve the problem with a 2 1/2 cent a day beach fee. That is exactly the reason a fee is needed because once private business gets it foot in the door of our parks it will be like a cancerous tumor and just keep growing until it takes over whole whole body.

    Your are obviously in the dark about the Miniature golf fiasco. Miniature golf that would have taken over an acre of the park from the citizens of Norwalk and made it off limits unless you forked up just about the amount for a two year beach fee for ONE round of Miniature golf. I would suppose you did not attend that public hearing, if you had, you would know exactly what the public thought about giving away park space to private enterprise. Did you know the city used to have the FD set up a rink every year at Broadriver school? That stopped about a decade ago because it became a problem. There is a great rink in Stamford but YOU HAVE TO PAY TO USE IT. THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH at least not in the foreseeable future.

  • Observer

    Frankly, #1, I’d rather see a portion of Taylor Farm being used for a seasonal ice rink. Or the field at Cranbury Park. Allowing such places to be used as glorified dog runs is abhorrent and the amount of unmonitored feces-scattering disgusting. I fail to understand why people can’t keep their dogs at home. If people don’t have a large enough yard for the dog, get a smaller dog. If they have no yard at all, then they shouldn’t have a dog in the first place. Why should our town parks – paid for by our taxes – be utilized as public animal toilets when we could be using them for better purposes, such as a seasonal ice rink?

  • Anonymous

    Just wait until the ponds and lakes freeze, then you can skate to your heart’s delight. I’ve skated on Woods Pond for decades, skated at Oak Hills Golf Course too. There are lots of little ponds and lakes in Ridgefield and Wilton to be skated on as well. You just have to know how to find them and have a thick skin to ignore those who wish to call you off them.

  • Anonymous

    The key to a miniature golf or skating rink is to have it owned and operated by the city. All the proceeds could go directly to cover costs pertaining to maintenance of the parks. I agree about Cranbury Park being used as an animal bathroom. The City should sponsor a hunt to eliminate all the deer, raccoons, and squirrels using the park as their personal bathroom. They don’t even have the decency to go in the designated areas. And I won’t even get into the Canada geese fiasco at the beach and Vet’s Park.

  • Anonymous

    I believe Observer was referring to people bringing their dogs to Cranbury Park, Vets Park and Taylor Farm to be used as a dog bathroom. Instead of their own property, for example.

    Apparently you’ve never had the dubious “pleasure” of walking trails and stepping into a huge pile of doggy doo. Or of having your toddler attempt to pick some up while he grins at you and asks “wha dis, ma?”

  • Forgedaboutit

    Taylor Farms property being used almost exclusively for a dog crap toilet is a disgrace. Let the dog owners pay to let their dogs shit all over that beautiful property. It sure as hell is not fit for human habitation at this point. Everywhere you step there are land mines.

    Talk about an underutilized piece of city real estate. If your dog wants to take a dump, then pay by the pound.

    Let them have a beach sticker to park and shit all over Taylor Farm. A $10 fee per year is a small price to pay to have your dog crap in a city park and not on your front lawn.

  • Forgedaboutit

    As far as the Geese in Vets Park, the damn things are all over the beach also, that includes both municipal and private golf courses. Until some kind of pandemic is spread by their waste, they will take over anyplace that they wish.

    You might call this a environmental disaster caused by the Federal, State and Local governments caving in to the animal protection groups.

  • Barnstorm

    Forgedaboutit, you worry about private interests gaining a foothold in our parks? Maybe you’ve forgotten that Stew Leonards runs the food concesssion at Calf Pasture.

    A few well trained border collies could patrol the parks and keep the geese problems in check. The main problem stems from the public, which keeps feeding, and therefore encouraging such pests.

    Maybe the city could come up with a volunteer corps of “dog watchers” at the other city parks and issue summonses to those who don’t pick up after their pets. Without some kind of enforcement the problem is only going to get worse.

    I am still opposed to the fee/tax for using the city parks. We already pay enough.

  • Anonymous

    Only police and the dog wardens can give out tickets for those violations.

  • Forgedaboutit # 10

    You are correct, but we cannot afford to pay for any additional police protection let alone having the police look for carpet bombers. The fee would help us maintain better control and safety in our parks.

    If you don’t want a fee then the NPD should be stationed at the entrance of the Beach and check each auto sticker against the license number and check each walk in to see if they are Norwalk residents. That should pretty much make the line to get into the beach go right past Marvin School, BUT HELL even if we have to wait 2 hours to get into the beach, WE WONT HAVE TO PAY THAT HORRENDOUS 2 1/2 CENT A DAY FEE.

  • Secondhand Rose

    The reason Stew Leonard’s runs the food concession at Calf Pasture is because nobody else WANTED to. The former concessionaire did a horrible job and left, and apparently nobody else but Stew came in with the low bid. What else was the city to do? Too bad Overton’s didn’t opt to take it over; they would have had a slam-bang business there as well as at their other site. Or maybe one of those food truck people could have taken it over. But they didn’t, and Stew saw an opportunity. What’s wrong with that?

    As for the dog-poop issue, I agree with Observer and Forgedaboudit. There needs to be a way to fine those dog owners who bring their dogs to a public city park and don’t pick up the droppings.

    And there used to be a man with a large black dog who regularly patrolled both Shady and Calf Pasture Beaches in the past, and was able to keep the goose population down. Where did they go, and why aren’t there more of these dog owners being utilized as geese patrols? Maybe instead of paying fines for dog droppings, dog owners can be put to work patrolling the waterfront park areas with their animals to keep the geese on the move?

  • anon

    Frankly, Stews did the park a favor when Calf Pasture otherwise would not have had a concession stand at all. Ask Alex Knopp. It really isn’t a huge moneymaker for Stews, and if you ask me, it is far better to have “quality” food available than not. Honestly, Barnstorm, that is a silly comment.

  • anon

    Yes, what is UP with dog-owners today? People should be made to have a license, not the dog, for owning one. What really irks me is the usual habit of dog owners to allow their dogs to roam free in parks (they remove the leashes once inside the park) to such an extent that the dogs run up to people, regardless of whether the harassed victim has a “pet” allergy, a dog phobia, their own dog a on gentle leader in the process of training or simply on the other end of a leash (as the park rule states). The ignorance of some dog owners is unbelievable! I’ve seen elderly couples jumped on and ill-bred dogs snap-snarling at other dogs protecting their owners while at the end of a leash. If we could just protect dogs from bad owners, I might be able to take my dog to a park.

  • Vet Park Junkie

    Yeah! Whenever I think about the Recession and Cultural Institutions, the first thing that pops into my mind is…

    wait for it…

    wait for it…

    wait for it…

    Poo!

    I guess that when the economy is in the poohouse, you see it everywhere?

    Have you gone to see the frogs at the Maritime Aquarium, yet? Definitely cool.

    When we went to the Beardsley this last week, #2 Daughter took enough great pictures of the flowers in the greenhouse to create a neat calendar.

    Now is the time to rid yourself of that filthy lucre at someplace really boss! or slick, or cool, or (remember this?)heavy!

  • merry christmas from the dog

  • Forgedaboutit

    I bet none if any of you remember the 50′s when the concession at the beach was a ramshackle old wood building with a screened in counter,(screens full of holes big enough to let in a bird) let alone keep out flies. It was right on the beach sand, and you could park you cars at the front steps. It was a great hang out for the teens then. It was a dump and I have to agree if it was not for Stew you would not have any concession. In Vets park there was a small joint called “The Galley” It opened and failed then closed for a year or two then failed again. So as far as using Stew’s concession as an example of private enterprise in our parks, it’s a non starter. There was a concession at the beach since the 1940′s.

    PS

    The rats used to hide under the old concession and scurry out at night to see what the kids would throw into the overfilled garbage pails. The daytime garbage patrol was manned by the seagulls who would be all over the place. This made it a very interesting place to be during one of their bombing runs.

    Looking back now, that was some of the charm that made us eat there as teens. That and at night a patrolman would pull up behind a dark parked car and flash his light in to make sure nothing was going on. If he caught you playing Dr. Love you were told to move it out of the park.

  • Secondhand Rose

    I’ve got news for you, my friend; the rats never left. If you’re there at the height of summer and it’s dusk, you can see the great-great-great-great-great grandchildren of those rats scampering between the rocks leading out to the pier.

    And I’ve always wondered what it is exactly that cops have against young people parking (and necking) in the dark?

  • Forgedaboutit

    First I don’t think necking at the beach is that problematic anymore as the beach is not open all night like it was then.

    The rats today are sissy’s compared to the Chihuahua sized flesh eaters of the fifty’s. They would fight you to the death for a piece of old hot dog and call you nasty names at the same time.

  • Norwalker

    The Galley was open this summer and fall at Vets Park. It was nice to have during the grandson’s baseball games.

  • Vet Park Junkie

    Nothing like a hot dog and a Choco Taco from the Galley to make the world go round a little bit better.

    We made reservations at Coco Key for a day at the water park. They do have a most reasonable family day rate. Looks to be about the same in size and price as that great Parisian hangout, Aquaboulevard!

  • Forgedaboutit

    CHOCO TACO! I bet besides making the world go round, it made you run to the toilet in a hurry, and make the water in the bowl go around also.

  • Secondhand Rose

    Hardly, Choco Tacos are ice cream.

  • Forgedaboutit

    OK, maybe only if you are lactose intolerant.

  • turfgrrl

    ahem …

  • Secondhand Rose

    Yes, and made by Good Humor, I believe. You can get them at Taco Bell or in your grocer’s freezer section. They’re dee-lish!

  • Vet Park Junkie

    Wow! The Great Norwalk Choco Taco Controversy! We wait until Nik’s Place opens up and it’s the first summer-is-coming! purchase of the year. Well, the second such item. The first are the clamming licenses that we bought today.

    Coco Key in Waterbury is fun. As water parks go, I’d rate it a solid OK. The water activities are more kid level than adult but the tube slides are good. Now, with a family 4-pack at $80 for a full day (11AM-8PM) at the beach, it’s a pretty good deal. I expect that it will cut into the day-trip, non-profit traffic this year.

  • Old bell weathers

    Nik’s Place and Overtons two places that ring in the Spring.

  • Old bell weathers

    OK! Lets go, who makes the best pizza in Norwalk?

  • Watchdog

    We’ve had this conversation before, Old Bell, but I’m definitely game. Everytime we have pizza in our family, we have this same argument. As far as I’m concerned, Modugno’s pizza in East Norwalk had the monopoly on pizza some years back. They moved to Cedar Street for a while before brothers John and Mario retired. Franca, one of the daughters, and her husband continued with their infamous pizza recipe for a few years before the business closed. No one has seemed to be able to recreate that delectably rich, slippery, saucy, cheesy pie. Letizia runs a first choice currently. They are located on the first right side street on route 7 after the Borders/Outback shopping center.

  • Double D

    Fat Cat is the best in the “gourmet” area but yes, Letizia is probably the best of the old fashioned style, followed closely by Jordans.

  • Norwalker

    I think Marrenello’s is at the top. Especially well done. It’s as good as Sunshine on CT ave was.

  • Secondhand Rose

    Best pizza in Norwalk is John’s Best on the Westport line!! By FAR the best Italian food in the area. Any othter Italian restaurants can’t even compare.

  • Double D

    Well, I’ll give it a try but if it’s anything like the John’s Best in Broad River, it’s not only not in the ball part with Letizia and Jordan – it isn’t even playing the same game! It’s unfortunate that the BEST places (except Fat Cat) don’t deliver ’cause, not counting eating out, when I want pizza it’s partly because I’m too lazy to go out, so I’m stuck with the people who’ll deliver.

  • Secondhand Rose

    John’s Best on the Westport line is BETTER than any other John’s Best in Fairfield County. Trust me, I come all the way down from Danbury to eat there, and we have a John’s Best right up the street. I’m Italian, and believe me, I know good sauce when I taste it.

    The only place in Norwalk that is better than John’s Best on the Westport line used to be on Connecticut Avenue where a camera shop is now, just up from Swanky Frank’s, but they went out of business some years back. They had the best meatballs I ever ate.

  • 1 of the SMD 3

    The John’s Best on New Cannan Ave is FAR BETTER!
    The pizza is always good and they always are nice to all thier customers.
    Oh No…..It’s started…..Now I’m hungry for a large sausage pizza………

  • turfgrrl

    What no mention of Partners in East Norwalk? When I’m feeling like pepperoni, that’s where I head. Somewhat off topic, during last night’s NFL action Pizza Hut was advertising multi grain crust and natural pepperoni pies. Natural pepperoni? Did they forget what pepperoni is made out of? (Hint think processed salami)

  • Crabby

    Uncle Joe’s. Thin crust.

  • Secondhand Rose

    You couldn’t PAY me to eat at Uncle Joe’s!! Both times I went there with people who SWORE to me that the place was utterly fantastic, and both times I had to leave with my entire order uneaten and my check comped by the owners. The food at Uncle Joe’s is completely UNPALATABLE! I’ve never been to a worse restaurant. With food as awful as theirs, I cannot believe they have not only remained open as long as they have, but have a (dementedly) loyal following. Absolutely the worst tasting food I’ve ever eaten in a public “restaurant”.

    In any case, I’d never eat a pizza there. You want a PIZZA, you go to an ITALIAN restaurant where it’s made by ITALIAN people who know how to cook sauce!! Not by Greeks and not by Mexicans or Columbians.

  • 1 of the SMD 3

    Oh Yes !!!
    I almost forgot about the pizza’s at Partners Cafe’. VERY Good to say the least.

    Tommy, I’m on my way….. Make me a Sausage w/Hot Peppers!

  • anon432

    Pepi’s, Modern and the Bar pizza in New Haven are the best to be found in Connecticut. In Norwalk- New York Pizza, Fat Cat’s and I must disagree with you about Uncle Joe’s it is a Greek pizza crust and sauce but it is good, and so is Jordan’s pizza. Secondhand Rose- Some times one needs to experience a change.

    PS ALL KINDS of people eat pizza it is not just an Italian dish anymore.

  • Just some pizza history

    Pizza History

    Pizza, like so many other foods, did not originate in the country for which it is now famous. Unless you have researched the subject, you, like so many people, probably always thought Pizza was strictly an Italian creation.

    The foundations for Pizza were originally laid by the early Greeks who first baked large, round and flat breads which they “annointed with oil, herbs, spices and Dates.”

    Tomatoes were not discovered at that time or, very likely, they would have used them as we do today.

    Eventually the idea of flat bread found its way to Italy where, in the 18th century, the flat breads called “Pizzas”, were sold on the streets and in the markets. They were not topped with anything but were enjoyed au naturel. Since they were relatively cheap to make, were tasty and filling, they were sold to the poor all over Naples by street vendors.The acceptance of the tomato by the Neapolitans and the visit of a queen contributed to the Pizza as we know and enjoy it today.

    In about 1889, Queen Margherita, accompanied by her husband, Umberto I, took an inspection tour of her Italian Kingdom. During her travels around Italy she saw many people, especially the peasants, eating this large, flat bread. Curious, the queen ordered her guards to bring her one of these Pizza breads. The Queen loved the bread and would eat it every time she was out amongst the people, which caused some consternation in Court circles. It was not seemly for a Queen to dine on peasant’s food.

    Never the less, the queen loved the bread and decided to take matters into her own hands. Summoning Chef Rafaelle Esposito from his pizzeria to the royal palace, the queen ordered him to bake a selection of pizzas for her pleasure.

    To honor the queen who was so beloved by her subjects, Rafaelle decided to make a very special pizza just for her. He baked a Pizza topped with tomatoes, Mozarella Cheese, and fresh Basil (to represent the colors of the Italian flag: Red, white, and green).

    This became Queen Margherita’s favorite pizza and when word got out that this was one of the queen’s favorite foods, she became even more popular with the Italian people. She also started a culinary tradition, the Pizza Margherita, which lasts to this very day in Naples and has now spread throughout the world.

    History has not made it clear whether Rafaelle began to sell this creation from his own pizzeria but it is known that the Pizza, in much the same form as we now know it, was thereafter enjoyed by all the Italian people. Variations began to be made in different parts of the country. In Bologna, for example, meat began to be added into the topping mix. Neapolitan Pizza became quite popular and it brought garlic and crumbly Neapolitan cheeses into the mixture as well as herbs, fresh vegetables, and other spices and flavorings.

    About this time the idea of baking in special brick ovens came into existence and the bread, as it is today, was a rather simple combination of flour, oil, salt and yeast.

    Pizza spread to America, France, England and Spain, where it was little known until after World War II. While occupying Italian territories, many American and European soldiers tasted Pizza for the first time. It was love at first taste! Italian immigrants had been selling Pizzas in their American stores for some time, but it was the returning soldiers with a lust for the saucy delight that drew the Pizzas out of the quiet Italian neighborhoods into the main stream of city life all over the continent. In fact, the square “Sicilian Pizza” which is so popular and was the forerunner of the now well-promoted “Party Pizza” is an American invention. Real Sicilian Pizza has no cheese or anchovies.

    Today we celebrate Pizza. February 9 is International Pizza Day and the Guinness Book of Records states that the largest Pizza ever made and eaten was created in Havana, Florida and was 100 feet and 1 inch across!

    American and Canadian citizens will eat an average 23 pounds of Pizza, per person, per year. Pepperoni and Cheese is the favorite combination, especially with the younger set, and is second only to the hamburger as this continent’s favorite food.

    Pizzas can be made either healthy or fatty, depending upon what you use for the toppings. They come in many forms such as Calzones (half the dough is topped then the other half folded over to form a large half-moon shaped Pizza Pocket, which is then baked). It also comes in various forms such as breads, rolls, pan pizza, stuffed crust pizza, thin crust Pizza and thick crust pizza, wholewheat crust, and bagel crust.

    The concept has also taken many forms such as Mexican Pizza (a pizza dough topped with chili or taco filling, shredded Cheddar, chopped onions, tomatoes and Jalapeno peppers), Ice Cream Pizza, Candy Pizza and even Pizza cake as well as Pizza flavored items such as Potato Chips and Tortilla Snacks!

    So, next time you eat a Pizza, stop and think of Queen Margherita and Chef Rafaelle and be grateful that a Queen would dare stoop to eat peasant bread.

    About the name: The word “pie” does not refer to the crust, nor even to the shape or position of the crust. The Oxford English, the Webster’s unabridged,and lexicographer Charles Earl Funk, all agree that the elemental word “pie” relates to the Magpie, a bird with feathers splotched in two colors, a bird called “Pica” by the Romans, whence the English “Pie” and the alteration of “Pica” to “Pizza”. The name relates to the bird’s double color and its habit of gathering odds and ends as does a Pizza, or Pie, gather, and consist of, varied ingredients.

  • Secondhand Rose

    “ALL KINDS of people eat pizza it is not just an Italian dish anymore.”

    I wasn’t talking about who EATS it, I was talking about who MAKES it.

    There’s just no comparison between Italian pizza and Greek pizza. Greek cooks can’t make decent sauce to save their lives, Greek pizza is always greasier, and the crust is usually thick and bready instead of thin and crispy.

    And before you begin castigating me, I’ve eaten Post Corner Pizza (Greek) many times, as well as G&G Pizza (Greek) and East Avenue Pizza (also Greek) as well as many fine Italian pizzas such as Italia’s on Main Ave. and every John’s Best in Fairfield County.

    And yes, Pepi’s Pizza in New Haven is fantastic, but it’s not as good as John’s Best on the Westport line.

  • Diane C: rookies!

    Best pizza in Norwalk isn’t. It’s in Stamford: Colony Bar and Grill (Myrtle Avenue) – best pizza ever, in the history of mankind, on this planet and all others, period, end of story.
    Thin crust cheese pizza with stinger peppers and hot oil. Even still with the new owners and somewhat slightly different sauce, still best pie ever, worth the 45 minute wait.
    Let’s go!

  • anon432

    Do you own John’s Best? JK. Greek pizza is great it is not greasier, it is the oils that are different. I am glad you have found a place to frequent that you like. I love them all. Greek, Italian, what ever.Chow!

    Colony is good, but have you tried the mashed potato pie at the Bar in New Haven?

  • Double D

    Forgot about Partners. And Colony certainly but I was thinking of just here in town. But, again, Partners doesn’t deliver. Fat Car is the only one of the superlatives who deliver.
    Is it a sign that times are good that this is the most important thing we can be talking about – or a sign that things are so awful we need to distract ourselves with pizza?

  • turfgrrl

    Oh if we’re going to venture outside of the Norwalk area, then the best pizza in the world is Rocky’s Pizza in Seven Hills, Ohio. Best beer in the world though is Place Mollard, Geneva Switzerland, the house amber rocks.

  • Diane C: Pizza futures market

    Double D: nothin’ like a large pepper, onion and mushroom when you’re in the throws of an economic meltdown. And some fun, mindless chatter is a nice release from the stress. So I say things are awful, but we are a resilient lot, we sausage and peppers bloggers…….
    Anyway, is pizza recession-proof? Inquiring minds want to to know. Perhaps pizza sales are as good an economic barometer as CPI or GNP or DJIA.

  • Al Raymond

    Phil Bakers back in the day was the best in town, Now I`am not sure Letizia`s is good and Fat Cat is good but I must say Colony Bar & Grille in Stamford is GREAT

  • Forgedaboutit Re Al Raymond

    Boy, Al did you bring back a memory. In those days, my mother used to make it at home, because it was too much trouble to go across town to get it, and it only cost a few cents to make it at home. Then there were only 2 places that served pizza, Phil Bakers and the Arrow in Saugatuck. I used to watch the old timers make the pizza through the side screen door open to the kitchen of Phil Bakers and while they were working in the heat, the sweat was pouring off their brow into the dough. We all agreed that was what made Phil’s pizza the best, THE HINT OF NATURAL SALT.

    50 years later;

    I think one of the best pizza is made by “Little Nicky’s” located on Newtown Ave where Gregory’s store was located. We have many pizza joints in Norwalk, and some are close in perfection to each other. It is the taste buds that make the difference. I bet I have eaten pizza from just about every pizza joint in the area, and I actually never tasted a pizza that I TOTALLY HATED.

    I am not a thin crust person, but the best thin crust I have ever tasted was at the “Upper Crust” on Duval St in Key West.

    Pizza is like pasta sauce, you give a dish of the sauce you love to 10 people and you will get 9 different opinions.