Greenwich Wants To Shut Down Wiffle Ball Field

The fiel dof dreams 10 years later. The Hollywood script about to be penned, an abandoned lot owned by town of Greenwich, teens clear it of weeds and added fencing. Then the Greenwich political flunkies get into the mix and say no permission, no mas. From the Advocate:

Taco Bell Field?

Representatives of the fast-food chain famous for its chalupas and gorditas tried to reach out yesterday to offer their support to a group of local teens who are facing eviction from the Wiffle ball field they built on a vacant town-owned lot in Riverside.

The field, which has been ordered to be shutdown by the town, features a 12-foot-high replica of Fenway Park’s famed Green Monster with signs atop it advertising Taco Bell’s Frutista Freeze. A pitcher who surrenders a home run off the signs must buy the batter one of the slush drinks under the ground rules of the field.

Taco Bell, which is part of the Louisville, Ky.-based Yum Brands Inc., would like to do something nice for the teens in return, Will Bortz, the chain’s public relations manager, said in an e-mail yesterday.

From the fast-food chain to local police, many are rallying around the teens, most of whom go to Greenwich High School.

“It’s nice to know that people are behind us on this,” said Brett Atkinson, a rising junior at Greenwich High who helped build the field.

About 10 to 15 teens spent three weeks clearing the lot of dense thicket and erecting plywood fences in the outfield. Some of their parents helped donate the supplies for their project. They painted the fences green, put down bases and hung a large American flag from a tree in foul territory down the left field line.

But town officials said the teens never asked permission to use the wooded half-acre parcel, which is accessed by a narrow grass pathway between residential properties at 96 and 100 Riverside Lane. They have also received a pair of nuisance complaints from neighboring homeowners about noise coming from the property, which has a fair market value of $1.25 million.”The position now is that they cannot stay there, but that’s always subject to review,” said Selectman Peter Crumbine, who is acting as first selectman this week.

Messages seeking comment were left again yesterday for the neighbors who made the complaints.

If the public outcry over the teens’ eviction builds, Crumbine said the Board of Selectmen would take up the issue and rule on whether they might be able to stay.

Neighborhood resource officers from the police department helped deliver the bad news to the teens this week. Feeling sorry for them, they contacted the Boys & Girls Club of Greenwich about organizing a Wiffle ball tournament, police Chief David Ridberg said.

“We’re looking at some other options,” Ridberg said. “We didn’t just want to go there and rain on their parade.”

A number of the teens spent about four hours yesterday playing Wiffle ball, which was invented in Connecticut, on the field.

source: Advocate, Outcry over the outfield, By Neil Vigdor, 07/04/2008

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  • Barnstorm

    So much for a field of dreams in Greenwich, where if you build it, somebody will squawk about it. The kids ought to charge whoever owns it for clearing the brush & improvements.

  • Lindsay

    Thats too bad, they actually built something nice and are outside getting fresh air and exercise. They could have done a lot worse. But all it takes is for some kid to fall and scrape his knee next thing you know there are lawsuits against the town of greenwich, the wiffle ball bat company, taco bell, God, etc, etc.

  • Norwalker

    But only in Greenwich, you have to understand. If this were Norwalk…where we have a more realistic view on life (i.e. – whites, blacks, hispanics, rich, poor), then this blog wouldn’t exist. They’re not living in reality. They need help.

  • Anonymous

    Norwalk shut down Calf pasture beach,red tide or blue flu? 3 hours before closing what was that all about? Who is anyone kidding this is the real deal they shut it down.

    Then they kicked out 150 hispanics here in Norwalk for having a cookout at west rocks school yesterday from orders of the school dept.They had to break down tents and grills.

    These two were documented and sent to Norwalk officials so I don’t think Greenwich has the black eye this weekend I think Norwalk took high honors and being insensitive and all around jackasses.

  • Norwalker

    Really?!? This happened in Norwalk? Wow….thanks for the news. Sometimes you hear more on this blog than in the news.

    But, we’ll never find out the truth. Again, I say that this stuff would never happen in Greenwich because they’re not diverse, but it makes me sad, nonetheless.

    Thanks for your post, sad as it is for these people. Hey…have a good day!!! :)

  • Anonymous

    I’m in agreement, this blog has more news than either paper.

  • anon

    More news, but not necessarily more accurate, often unsubstantiated, and usually with an unknown agenda. For example, I was not aware that you could have unauthorized parties on school property. Especially with grills.

  • Anonymous

    You can you can get a permit and now with the blog a life.You apply for a field permit and with a deposit use the field for soccer.Now the rental people have decided to change some rules and the police dept was at the field for almost 2 hours clearing the area of illegal party goers accoding to an officer.Grills were there along with 150 party goers,whats there not to understand you want pictures?

    #7 you have described the Moccia,Rillings,Bondi,and Kydes news not the blogs.

    They have been renting the West Rocks school for a while check it out and ask unless one has an agenda.

  • Greenwich”er”

    Ha. “Norwalker” your ignorance astounds me.
    Norwalk is, according to the latest census
    “73.95% White, 15.27% Black or African American, Hispanic or Latino 15.63%.”

    While Greenwich may be 90% white, and while i don’t want to start an argument about the obvious general disparity in affluence between whites and minorities, especially in CT, there is near two-fold difference between the percentages of asians in greenwich than in norwalk. Also, the percentage of whites in norwalk is greater than that of the percentage of whites in the U.S.A.

    The fact that the people of Greenwich can afford to live in a cleaner, less crime stricken and more beautiful sound-side suburb can’t be held against them on some moral or “realistic” standard.

    If reality means lowered standards of living, not living up to potential and pretending as if these conditions constitute reality, then you can have it.

    Greenwich sometimes cares for Norwalk. The vast resources of the town are often contributed to charities that benefit the people of Greenwich, Connecticut, the U.S.A. and the planet Earth.

    The fact that 7.2% of the population of Norwalk lives below the poverty line is sweet. Im sure everybody from greenwich wishes they could experience such quality of life. But they succeeded… an unfortunate consequence of determination and family privilege.

    Bottom line, Norwalker, diversity doesn’t mean anything in this world. Get over your uselessness and STFU.

  • Anon11

    #4- The people at West Rocks were kicked out because the neighbors complained. Cars were illegally parked on Aiken Street (both sides of the road), and they were causing a disturbance. Most of the cars parked were out of state, and nobody asked permission to have a “family reunion” at the field.

    They did this last year too and left a mess. I don’t think it had anything to do with them being Hispanic, it had to do with them deciding that the Middle school would be a great place to have a picinc, to cook out and to ilegally park.

  • VanGogh

    Is it “GreenwichER” or GreenwichITE”?

  • Anonymous

    I believe the proper term is elistist.

  • anon

    Couldn’t they pay to get a permit somewhere and have it?

  • Anonymous

    #10 your right about the field,now what happened at calf pasture what transpired there was also fact they shut it down early.Only a couple of words and we start looking like Greenwich.

    I think the mere fact the two cruisers and officers were out of commission for two hours while the dept was working on whats allowed whats not was simply a waste of manpower.

    Thanks for the lowdown amazing we can get it on the blog can’t we?

  • resident

    I live in this area. These kids are nothing but delinquents causing trouble. I honestly blame their parents for not keeping an eye on them.

    Let’s be serious. This whole story about the “poor kids who think the man is keeping them down” is a bunch of nonsense. Feel free to argue with me. From what I’ve heard, several neighbors have complained about them roaming around the streets, blocking off adjacent areas with their cars (SUVs, mostly), and disrespecting a rather peaceful area.

    You realize that cutting down trees that belong to the city is illegal, right? Who knows if these kids aren’t engaging in any sort of “other” activities (use your imagination with this one). As far as I’m concerned, these kids can’t just play the innocent kid approach with the town and try to get organizations, police officers, and the selectman to support them. The tax paying members of the area, who actually contribute to the Greenwich community, should have the final say.

  • VanGogh

    Thanks for your very honest post, “resident”, but you better watch out that Greenich”er” doesn’t tell YOU to STFU as well. Pretty low on intelligence….

  • Anon 11

    I don’t know what happened at Calf Pasture Beach, but don’t think it was a waste having 2 police cars at the field for what was more like 45 mins (I live right near there and saw them come and go) isn’t a big deal. You try getting 150 people (not sure if it was that many, but by the amount of cars, could have been) off of your property, without incident, and let me know if that’s excessive.

    Again, had nothing to do with race; it had to do with people doing what they want, when they want. The cars were mostly out of state, and were parked on both sides of Aiken Street, half the way down.

  • Anon 11

    I don’t know what happened at Calf Pasture Beach, but don’t think it was a waste having 2 police cars at the field for what was more like 45 mins (I live right near there and saw them come and go) isn’t a big deal. You try getting 150 people (not sure if it was that many, but by the amount of cars, could have been) off of your property, without incident, and let me know if that’s excessive.

    Again, had nothing to do with race; it had to do with people doing what they want, when they want. The cars were mostly out of state, and were parked on both sides of Aiken Street, half the way down with no room for emergency vehicles.

  • Anonymous

    just shut the beach down early nights we really don’t need it anymore with all the other stuff going on.Why should only some of the people enjoy Norwalk when most of the city hurts.

  • Anonymous

    Crime, crime, crime, crime, crime,
    crime, crime, crime, crime, crime,
    crime, crime, crime, crime, crime,
    crime, crime, crime, crime, crime,
    93 East Avenue

  • Also A Resident

    Interesting claims “resident”. For I know for a fact that the majority of the cars driven by the kids who play at the field are not SUV’s, and the vehicles that are..are people who live on the street right next to the field. Naturally, I believe they are allowed to park on their own field?

    As a member of one of these families..I find it humorous that all of you 50 year old losers are sitting behind a computer screen, HALF of you not even living in Greenwich, complaining about a field you’ve never seen, and kids you never met. So why don’t you all go back to spying on your neighbors or whatever it is you do when you’re not “blogging”.

    If you think this is bad..just wait til Halloween ;DD

    It was nice conversing with you, but I think Im going to go play WiffleBall now =]

  • Also A Resident

    BY THE WAY…if you want to make attacks on these kids or their parents, why are you doing it over the internet where none of them are going to read it because none of them give two shits what any of you lowlifes think? Why don’t you go to the field or to the support gatherings and say what you have to say?

    I guess it is a lot easier to hide behind a computer screen and pick at your belly-button. Toodles.

  • Also A Resident

    **Naturally, I believe they are able to park on their own street?

  • The Man

    The audacity of some of the people in this blog never ceases to amaze me. First off, Norwalker seems to take an innapropriately stereotypical view of life in Greenwich. Though Greenwich is characterized by a few of our markedly successful residents, Greenwich is a place of diversity, home to numerous areas of government sponsored low income housing and the like. While not as diverse as the cesspool that Norwalk has become, Greenwich is more diverse than many other towns in the county.

    In addition, I am inclined to side with “Also A Resident” against the fellow who posted #15. What problems do you have with holding a Wiffle Ball field in your neighborhood. You seem to make a point that you believe these aren’t good kids. What would you rather have these kids do, blow up your mailbox with firecrackers or spend some time outdoors, enjoying the summer, playing wiffleball. In the end, this field is a harmless addition and a credit to the kids of your neighborhood. You should be ashamed of your closeminded thinking on this matter.

  • Mr. Deeds

    the town of greenwich would rather have the kids having illeagal fun so the greenwich cops have somthing to do. what happen to keeping the kids off the streets and shit. let the kids have somthing to do instead of breaking into your house and stealing shit.

  • Also A Resident

    Haha. The Man and Mr. Deeds make excellent points. It’s people like you who give Greenwich the bad rep that it has, a bunch of stuck up old timers with nothing but bitter outlooks on everyone who is not like them.

    I’ve been to the field, I know all of the kids who play there. They are not bothering you. Haven’t you ever watched “The Sandlot?” Well maybe you should.

    Just because your childhood sucked don’t take it out on these kids. I could understand if they broke someone’s window, or stole some kind of furniture out of someone’s yard for the field..but they have done nothing. I’m sure most of you didn’t even know the field existed until it ended up on the news because it is SO out of everyones way. Get a life.

  • anonymous

    liiike awesome o sometin

  • Like..

    Like maybe it weel rain and like..dee haters weel wash away

  • another resident

    I graduated from ghs not too long ago and live in the area for the summer. Props to you kids for doing something cool like that. If I was still in hs I’d probably join you. Remember though that its not all the neighbors who are pissed off. Just respect our property and we’ll respect yours. No hard feelings. Enjoy your summers fellas.

  • Chika chika yeah

    this thing has gotten out of hand. Everyone should just chill and hate on the government instead of your neighbors. Word

  • RUSirius

    Word up, Chika Chicka. Funny thing, this government. Didn’t it originate to protect us from our neighbors?

  • Lets Go Whalers

    This is reason #174 why no one likes people from Greenwich. What Fairfield County doesnt know is that the other counties in the state don’t consider it part of Connecticut.

    The lesson the kids learned here is that the gov’t and stuck up old people rule the world.

  • puzzled – someone please respond

    I sympathize with both sides. I myself life near that area, but I do want to give my two cents on a few things.

    I’m sorry, but is this REALLY necessary? National media attention? Come on kids, you had your 15 minutes of fame. I personally think this is getting ridiculous. The kids didn’t have permission – their fault. The neighbors should’ve dealt with the issue in a more approachable way – their fault.

    It’s basically everyone’s fault. I just don’t really understand how this story is being presented as a “David vs. Goliath” type of thing. It’s easy to say that the neighbors are right or that the kids are right. Best thing to do is ignore this, it is definitely not worthy of so much media hype. Can we worry about getting rid of Bush, Iraq, fires in CA, flood in the midwest, and high oil prices before we worry about a f***ing baseball field??

    Come on people…

  • anonymoose

    is a killah whale a whale?

  • Patty Doyle

    I think that wiffle ball is a good thing, but I think that its also a good thing to get permission before going onto someone elses property.

  • old timer

    Sounds like good clean harmless fun, unless it is your property they are using. If it is your property, even if you don’t really object, you have to think of liability. Towns have lawyers who are paid to protect them from lawsuits. The minute that field-of-dreams came to the lawyers attention, they had no choice but to close it down or accept the liabilty of owning it as an unregulated playground with the liabilty if anyone gets hurt. Do you think, in Greenwich, there was not much risk of lawsuits ? If the kids were an organized group, with insurance, they could probably have gotten permission and kept the field.

  • A Relative

    Not a single one of these kids is a ‘delinquent’ because I personally know every single one of them. So, “resident” you can mind your own business and don’t talk about these kids like you know them. My grandson would never do such a thing and to see that people would go so low as to assume things upon kids they don’t know is ridiculous.