Norwalk: Squabbles Over Vets Park

More squabbles over whether Vets park needs an Amphitheater or not. The Advocate is highlighting the war of words between Democrat Fred Bondi, District C and Democratic candidate Laurel Lindstrom who is running for a District C seat. Other District C reps Joanne Romano and Nick Kydes are not quoted in the Advocate article, so we are left to speculate on their thoughts on Vets park. You can be sure that District C will be the hot bed of campaigning this fall. Back to the story:

As proponents of the Veterans Memorial Park amphitheater look to keep the project rolling at tomorrow’s Common Council meeting, an opponent of the plan is still wary.

The council will vote on approving a final payment to a consultant for a $35,000 study that looked at privately financing the project, said Fred Bondi, chairman of the Common Council’s Recreation, Parks & Cultural Affairs Committee. Bondi, a supporter of the plan, said the amphitheater would cost about $1 million.

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The results of the study were positive, he said. Funding “could come from General Electric, or anyone who can donate to the project. Or one big person like Spinnaker (Real Estate Partners) could put up the whole amount,” he said. “It’s just a matter of putting the whole plan together and getting things going.”

Bondi said concerts and festivals held at the park – such as the Oyster Festival and the Jazz Festival – will continue, but he did not know whether additional events would be held if the theater were built. Private financing would pay for the construction of the theater, but the city would maintain control after it is completed, he said.

Laurel Lindstrom, president of the Eastern Norwalk Neighborhood Association and a Common Council hopeful, questioned the need for an amphitheater. She cited the lack of an updated master plan that addresses community needs and possible noise problems, and said there was not enough public participation when city officials came up with the plan.

“The amount of events that we have right now is a good balance for the community,” Lindstrom said. “It’s got to be managed in a way that doesn’t infringe on the rights of the neighbors. It just doesn’t sit right with me. I don’t know if there’s a need at all in Norwalk for it.”

Bondi said little funding is available to update the park’s master plan, and dismissed Lindstrom’s concerns as politics, saying there will be public hearings.

Lindstrom said she is simply fighting for the neighborhood.

So, according to Mr. Greenpeace and other posters Vets Park is a toxic land fill, more or less. Residents, understandably wish that the park be used for quiet events. The culture side of parks and recs wants to do more to get more events happening in Norwalk. I don’t think there are any other sides in this, but feel free to add them in the comments. I’m wondering how the Levitt Pavilion in Westport got built.

Lindstrom is suggesting that there’s a need for a master plan. This is shorthand for the usual political cover where a consultant is paid to state the obvious but since its a consultant, then it can be claimed that it is politically safe to adopt. What is really needed is for the community, as in all of Norwalk to weigh in on the plan on the table. You don’t need consultants to come up with ideas, but you do need the residents of Norwalk to decide on whether they want cultural amenities that are proposed.

But people should remember, when George Eiffel built is iron tower for the World’s Fair in 1889, no one wanted it. They called it an eyesore and complained that undesirable people would come to Paris as a result. The Eiffel tower of course is the most visited landmark in the world. Ok, an amphitheater in Norwalk is not going to be a world class landmark, but in the scheme of things Norwalk needs to be thinking of being the regional class leader in fairfield county.

source: Advocate, Amphitheater project plan on Common Council’s agenda, By Tim Stelloh, July 23 2007

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  • Anonymous

    I find it fascinating that there is “little funding is available to update the park’s master plan”, but they can find $35,000 to line a consultant’s pockets. Just how much would it cost to update this little park’s master plan?!?

    One other thought: if private donations will build (and presumably name) the amphitheater, why can’t they provide the funding for the study? Is it that they know what a waste this is?

  • Anonymous

    Interesting that Lindstrom is perceived as playing politics while Bondi is not. I find Bondi’s continued attempts to commercialize Vets Park disturbing, especially since the public’s opinion is not being sought and that which has been expressed so far is against the ampitheater.

    This scheme is a disaster lurking on the horizon. Anyone who lives in East Norwalk and is familiar with Vets Park on the weekends will tell you that luring thousands of people to the area will clog traffic arteries and create headaches for the police, not to mention where all those people will park. What do you want to bet the next proposal is for increasing the parking lot size in the park?

    Bada Bing Bondi won’t stop at this one. If he succeeds, what’s next to be commercialized? Boat rides up and down the Norwalk River? I can just see it now: “on your left, you can see the Devine Brothers storage depot, just beyond that is the asphalt plant. Across the way that lovely odor wafting through your nostrils is a combination of the transfer station and sewage treatment plant…”

  • Anonymous

    I am deeply disturbed at how our Common Council spends money left and right on study after study, making many in this community wonder what the connections are and trying to connect all of the dots.

    It has been expressed clearly by the taxpayers that an Amphitheater is NOT a high priority! The people DO NOT WANT it in Vet’s Park. Why would the Council be willing to put money into looking into something the people do NOT want???

    Mr. Bondi needs to be put out to pasture in a BIG WAY!!!

    It’s about time the politicians in town START doing what the people want and not what their friends the Developers and Study people want. This is shameful.

  • longtimer

    Wasn’t this supposed to be installed in Oyster shell park?

  • Anonymous

    There is an ampitheater (or rather, the overgrown shell of one) in Oyster Shell/Heritage Park. For anyone who is brave enough to venture forth in those wilds… it’s kind of like playing archeologist to see the work that was so hurriedly done there just before Esposito ran for re-election.

    What a waste of the taxpayer’s dollar, considering how much more work will have to done to get the park in shape for the public, who will still have to deal with the creepy I95 overpass and the homeless/gangbangers that frequent the area.

  • anonymous

    It never ceases to amaze me how our tax dollars are arrogantly squandered. We are doing studies upon studies merely to confirm the political egos and ambitions of those who authorize the studies. The recent study for the amphitheater in Vets park is yet again the story in repeat. $36,000 for a consultant to whisper sweet nothings into the committee’s ear, basically telling them what they want to hear: their ideas are ingenius! It is a bit like paying for love..

    And the pattern continues to play out: while there is money to massage and stroke the committee’s ambitions, there is no money to do the needful, engineering feasibility studies (Who needs them, all that technical mumbo-jumbo?), environemntal studies (Unnecessary non-sense to make the tree-huggers feel good), public hearings (Who said this is a democracy?) and above all ongoing maintenance and police supervision, etc.

    THe only recourse here is to do whatever we can to change the city administration to one that includes its constituency in its plans the old fashioned democratic way (why, what a novel idea!).

    In other words, throw the bums out. I have good reason to believe Mr Briggs will be very much in suport of the E. Norwalk issues related to these foolish park projects currently on the table along with these routine tax coffer squanderings.

    Yes, the Eiffel tower did not initially gage much popular support, but that is the exception. Remember the failed Nuke Power Plant proposal for Cockenoe Island also got nixed thankfully because democracy did its overwhelmingly good thing. With enough time Vets’ park proposals that don’t enlist popular support will go the same way along with the careers of those who try to jam it down our throats

    ..Hear that Mr Bondi?

  • Mr Greenpeace

    I’m curious is CDM a company that deals with hazardous waste sites around the country along side of the EPA is involved in Norwalk, where are they involved this is important to note,,Camp Dresser Mcgee does other things but is noted for dealing with haz mat sites.

    I have only suggested to investigate the rumors, I have no proof there is contamination at Vets park but trying to discredit anything I say with a label is childs play when it comes to proving such things..

    I have though based some thought on sense , which at times I see has been lacking in Norwalk, and when it comes to informed smart and down right caring people I have found the spot to rant,,

    ever since the explosian and fire on Woodward ave went unreported to the EPA and since the city was hand slapped we now know reports of unreportable amounts of oil going into storm drains where the state is called becasue the storm drain spills into east Norwalk river as of 12:00 oclock today has changed how we think..

    yes I have shown deliberate ways of decieving the public, but today was a classic example of how this blog works,,we now report everything that happens, now lets see if they dig out the storm drain barrel it for haz mat disposal and do things the right way today on Osborne street or simply sweep it under the rug,,

    I think saying I suspect a problem in Vets park would of been better than saying it is a toxic landfill,,saying there was spill involving a storm drain going into the river today is fact,where the state had to be called in by the fired dept is also fact,,now lets see if our news hounds can pick up on this and try their hand at environmental reporting on the small scale..

    thats where we have equal time to set the record straight folks,,

  • Jack Freeberg

    “But people should remember, when George Eiffel built is iron tower for the Worlds Fair in 1889, no one wanted it.”

    OH NO! First Vets Park was compared to Central Park, which is a LAND LOCKED 843 acre park in the middle of NYC and has its own police precinct. Then Norwalk was compared with New York City, which has over 8.2 million residents within an area of 322 square miles, and is the most densely populated major city in North America. Now the proposed ampitheater is compaired to the “Eiffel Tower.” What next,is a load of Seagull crap in that park going to be compaired to the “Hope Diamond?”

  • anonymous

    Great comment, Jack. But to continue the analogy, the park is ‘pearls before swine’. Seagull crap notwithstanding, a waterfront park in a small shorefront city is a jewel managed with the sophistication of swine! I need not say who are the swine….

  • turfgrrl

    I hang my head in shame, I should have written Gustave not George Eiffel. I thought of this in one those odd sparks of realization that yet again, I mangled someone’s name.

  • Anonymous

    On the other hand, when 50 Washington St. was built I bet it was cheered by all as a marvel and cornerstone of a revitalized South Norwalk. But now, who among us hasn’t wished at one time or another to see it imploded out of the Norwalk skyline?

    The analogy to Eiffel is an overreach. What’s likely to be erected (and I say that with all pun intended) as a monument to its proponents will probably eventually be viewed in the same light as 50 Washington, years from now, given the low expectations that I’ve come to expect that the City pursues in these sort of charades.

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t the powers that be pave the crappy roads in town instead of paying for all of these “studies”?

    #6 Yes, I agree it is like paying for love. That is why most people in Norwalk think that the politicians and the developers are “in bed” together. Don’t be fooled by “party” loyality either. The taxpayers are the ones getting screwed by these politicians and developers while paying for their love fest on top of it. What do we get?

    IGNORED that’s what!

    Come November we will throw the bums (including Mr. Bondi) OUT! We need to judge them one by one and NOT by party loyalty.

    $100 million for Seligson’s infrastructure, the destruction of Matthew’s Park, Oyster Shell Park and now Veteran’s Park.

  • Mr Greenpeace

    posting number #6 makes sense I’m surprised no one had much to say about the posting itself..

  • Judith Levy

    posting number #6 makes sense I’m surprised no one had much to say about the posting itself..

    Why tamper with perfection?

  • Mr Greenpeace

    that is a fact Judith